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White Van Speaker Scam

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Distributor/Manufacturer of
Acoustic Response Speakers
J & B Audio
City: Surrey (or Langley)
Province: British Columbia
Phone: 604-596-7222
Contact: Jim

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Josh	Hudson, Canada
7/28/2010 Product or Service Involved: Bergmann 6.1 H who: 2 males, approx. age 25 where: Ultramar gas station exit 22 Hudson/ St-Lazare Was pumping my fuel when the two young men asked a guy beside me if he wanted a home speaker system. After the guy declined they asked me. He asked me if i spoke french. I do need to buy speakers for my bedroom unit so curiosity got the best of me. I walked over to the DARK GREEN minivan and looked at around 10 boxes looking like legit systems. I told him i already had a good system and he urged further that i didn't have a system like this one. i told him i have 50$ in my pocket, one man replied my sandals are worth more than that. He kept saying last time he brought the extra units back to the store they didn't reward him for returning them, so this time he wanted to make whatever he could before his delivery was due at 7:30pm (2hrs. from then). He said "look if you gave me 200$ i would just give it to you." He showed me a catalogue showing the retail price of $2500. I ended up giving him 120$. He even had the guts to say "listen if you see me in a bar, buy me a beer." He said that line about 5 times. I am on the road often and god forbid I see those two losers again. We joked around for a minute. I asked if they were Italien, they replied Greek. I got home to investigate on the web the great deal i just got. I felt played after i saw this site. thinking about it this was a cheap lesson. Serves me right fr trying to beat the system. and i feel bad for the un-educated/low lifes they will be for the rest of their lives, moving from person to person, scam to scam.
Marcel	DDO, Canada
7/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: Bergmann HM-6.1 Pro Speakers White Van in Sources road Canadian Tire. Guys saying they had an extra box that their boss would keep if they brought it back to their company. This had supposedly already happened and the boss in question had kept a flat screen TV and gave them nothing. The box looks legit, but a better look shows the speakers are low quality and the subwoofer is a 2.1 passive model. So stuff written on the box is a lie. There are no addresses nor phone numbers anywhere. I got lucky as I negotiated down to $120... But that still qualifies my action as stupid.
Dan	Ottawa, Canada
7/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Techn. Hehehehehe GD!!!!!!!!! I never thought this would've happend to me... As everyone else same story i got taken for 200$ as i was coming out of the bank. Two guys in a red caravan..........very expensive lesson :(
STFO	None, Canada
7/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax di'vinci rdx olinross . You all get what you deserve I came on here to read if anything was put up about me and came across someone asking how speaker men can sleep at night . well let me tell you. The answer VERY COMFORTABLY!!!! In the silk bed sheets you paid for. You are all on here talking like you got robbed at gun point but the truth is that your all just as bad as We are! How you ask well let me explane! Now the story never change's no matter where you are in the world . some fool gave us too many on our load and we want to sell them befor our boss see them and get's them for free! We live out of the city so we can't take them home. Now the part that showes your all just as bad as us speakermen is when we say "THE GUY AT THE WEARHOUSE GAVE US TO MANY" this means that you fools not only believe the story but you also don't care about some one most likly lossing there job for giving what is believed to be worth around two to four thousand $$$$ . away! that is a huge mistak and is worth getting fired for. but you scum bags dont give a damn you just care about your self! You see we speaker men live off YOUR GREED not ours. I am a Speaker man and i'm no lesser a man then you.
Jonathan	Montreal, Canada
7/16/2010 Product or Service Involved: Bergmann HM-6.1 I was driving back home when a guy in a mercedes Van came up and asked me if i spoke french and I said yes and afterwards he said i have home theatres that i want to sell and he asked me to pull over he said the same story that the other people here said the thing with his boss and after he said that he was going to give me 2 for 500$ but i could olny take 450 $ so i gave him and after he gave me the two of them and he told me that his name was Mike. I was thinking of taking his license plate but after i told myself never mind. When i got home i opened one of them and everything loked ok and i was trying to sell them and i saw this website?? those that mean that they are not good.
Patrick	Laurier Station, Canada
7/16/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technology 6.1 Same story than most of posts here. But, I did not have enough cash money (240$)on my pockets, so one of the 2 fuckers accepted a cheque (120$). He told me his name Jonathan Martin (???) When I went back home, I saw on Wikipedia "The white van scam" page's, so I cancelled my cheque. Finally, I paid 120$ plus 16$ (cheque cancellation fee) for this cheap "made in china" product. It's enough money to learn this lesson.
Mark	St-Constant/Montreal, Canada
7/3/2010 Product or Service Involved: SutherLand TechnoLogy (ST-15) I was approached in the Canadian Tire parking lot by a white male, 5 10", 185lbs, well-dressed, drove a Black Jeep Cherokee SUV- licence plate FC... Told me that he had some extra speakers he had to sell before returning the car to his boss. Was asking $500. Box looks legit and everything. I only had $140 on me. The guy was willing to drive to the ATM machine with me. I said nevermind, and then he said he'd be willing to take $140. I got scammed. I can't believe it...I thought I was smarter than that!
RAJ	richmond hill, Canada
7/3/2010 Product or Service Involved: HY LIne my friend was conned by the same white van guys, paid 1000 dollars for a projector system with home theatre system, which doesnt work. location : parking lot of Madras Palace restaurant in Richmond hill
Edward	Waterloo, Canada
7/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Brendel Was approached by two white males 9approx mid 20's) in a mall psrking lot, driving a white SUV. They had picked up a system for theirt boss and received an extra one that they wanted to sell or their boss would just keep it. They didnt say it, but it was evident that these guys needed the money to buy dildos and lube as they were total flamers. Even though it was obviously a scam i felt sorry for them as the one guy was even walking funny from all the butt action he must have been getting. i paid them some cash and they took off to get a motel room and smoke each others sausage with their new toys.
Kelvin	Scarborough, Canada
6/29/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST 6.1 A guy named "Franco" claiming to be from Brampton drove up on my street saying he had an extra speaker system he needed to get rid of for cheap. He said he was delivering on behalf of Bay Bloor Radio and showed a work order to me. He also said he didn't want to return back with an extra system because his boss kept it the last time he came back with an extra one. I told him I didn't have a lot of money on hand but offered to take me to an ATM to get $200.00. Even showed me a seemingly legitimate product catalogue. He gave me a phone number but then changed his name to "Mark" (ie. an unwitting victim). I then tried to search on Google for more about the system - turns out I fell to a common scam. Phone number led to a "call cannot be not completed as dialled" recording. Haven't opened the box and don't intend to waste time trying to see if it works because it's known to be of inferior quality. This speaker brand even has an official-looking website with minimal information about the products they offer (www.sutherlandtech.com). So if this guy appears in the area in the coming days, don't do what I did and fall for this scam.
Joe	Hamilton, Canada
6/28/2010 2 guys in a white acura MDX pulled up beside me as I was leaving walmart in hamilton on centennial, these guys were really young like around 25 and they tried telling me that some shipper was "smoking crack" and they sent double the order, I looked at it and it was some brand that started with a B, Im only 18 and he asked me where I work, i told him dont worry about it, He asked how old I am and when i told him in 18, he said OHH YOUR 18 YOUR POOR. then they sped off like stupid idiots. They even have this fake catalogue and stupid stuff like that to try to prove its real. They said all we want is maybe a atm maximum withdrawn limit and thats all, yeah right, idiots.
Mike Petherick	Kitchener / Waterloo, Canada
6/22/2010 Product or Service Involved: st7 southerland home theatre system I didn't get a look at the vehicle or the sellers, but noted because of my roommate that it was two white guys, claiming to be from mississauga and they were driving an Acura MDX; no license plate info tho. They approached my roommate while he was going for breakfast, and that's when he called me to check out this deal. I found everything legit for the product numbers, but the guy didn't want to let us test out the system. At that point they dropped the sale from $800 cdn to $400 cdn. While my roommate was en route back to my place to get money for purchase, though they were trying to pressure the sale from an ATM (could be another scam) I found this website. When they were confronted with this scam and the large number of people taken in by it, they stopped they're questioning, stopped the pressure pitching and left almost instantly.
J Doucet	Huntsville, Canada
6/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology This Jeep Cherokee approached me at a mall lot as I was pulling in and offered up the same line of BS, almost straight from the Wikipedia description. "I'm an audio installer etc, etc. Guys were young and he was nervous as hell and I took this as an indication that he really had run into a great opportunity because of a shipper's mistake. Showed me the Bill of lading showing his pick up and all. Only thing missing was the white van. Almost immediately after I handed over the money I had a suspicion that I should have taken down more info on the people that were dealing this junk. I feel like suck a moop for falling for this. I was hoping to turn this deal around and make a profit myself. So much for being a smart consumer. I should have followed my gut instinct instead of thinking about turning a little profit. Serves me right! Lesson learned...
Daniel	Montreal, Canada
6/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technology One guy in a white pick up truck drove up next to me at a gas station corner St-Denis and Laurier. Very nice truck 2009 or 2010. White guy with red tatoos on both arms, about 5"7. He spoke both english and french very well. He said he had his bosse's truck and got 2 sets of speakers instead of one and wanted to get rid of the second one before bringing the truck back to his work. He showed me the bill for the speakers with the price of 2499$. I gave him 200$ for the set of ST-15 and off he went. Came home and found out the truth. I must say he was pretty good at what he does.
James McManus	Ottawa, Canada
6/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-6.1 Two guys approached me in a white van (i believe dodge caravan) at Lebreton St. North and Gladstone. One guy's name was Dan, the other's I don't know. They claimed they were from Montreal and had two extra bahhhhhhhhhh exact same pitch. They did say they were heading to an audio store in gatineau hull. I told them I was a starving student and couldn't really afford them so they started at 500 (retailed at 2399.00). They eventually worked me down to 100, where they drove me to the quickie on gladstone right by lebreton st. north. They parked in the front, Im not sure if theres a camera there. I just ripped up the entire tree of cardboard that came with it and shoved it in another box because I cant stand to look at that fucking [icture. I might try the speakers first to see how they sound but I think I want to destroy them in some awesome way to make my 100 bucks actually worth it.
scamzoz	None, Alaska
6/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: bergman poor all da retards like you dat get skamed by .. clown niggaz !! u basterds should hide ... or go 2 street school nigaa
Louis	Terrebonne, Canada
6/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology Grey Cherokee, probably around 2002, gas station at the 640 and Gascon, one over stock box, guy was with his girlfriend, she was gorgeous!! et was around 5'8'' short dark hair, he had the magazine with the retail price of 3000$ and wanted to sell it at the price of the taxes... I searched for the company on my I-Phone, found there web site but in the end it did not feel right, offered him a 100 for it and he just took off... I was lucky...
Steve	Quebec, Canada
6/9/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST-15 Got me when i was coming out of gas station. Told me he had 2 extra home cinema system. Fell for it and gave him $500 !!! If I see him again he will wish he never met me!!! Damn sometimes we do stupid things!
JAC	Montreal, Canada
6/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Tech 6.1 Oh oh!! Too late to find this. Home Depot on Beaubien. White large SUV, broken left tail light. Hispanic guy. $185, ouch!! My own stupid fault, the guy was good though! As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true, then chances are it's false!! Beware!
Rammario	Brampton, Canada
5/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland tech Same story...Ripped me 300$,white guy,Jeep,licence plate BJLV791.
TANIA	Brampton, Canada
5/25/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paragon Audio PA-6059 HD DVD Player with speakers and gold tip cables. Indian guy in a white luxury SUV license plate BJAR 807. Said it was worth $2500. He went to pick it up this morning for his boss and the guy gave him an extra one. Wanted to make some money since he cant bring it home as his house is too far away. Said he would take $500, talked him down to $250. Thought it may have been a scam so took down the license plate. Everything inside of me was telling me not to do it... I feel so stupid.
Jean-Fran�ois Ducharme	Montr�al, Canada
5/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: bergmann 6.1 professional home theater system When: 24th May 2010 at around 10:30am Where: Petro-Canada gas station corner avenue du Parc and Mont-Royal in Montr�al, Qu�bec. Who: The suspect: a white caucasian tanned grey and white short hair, 5'10'', around 40, Qu�bec speaking, dark blue shorts, a white polo and sunglass. The car: a luxury white double cab Ford pick-up truck with wood inside. What: bergmann 6.1 professional home theater system How: At the Petro-Canada gas station corner Avenue du Parc and Mont-Royal on the 24th may 2010 at 10:30am, a 5'10'', 40 year old caucasian quebec man ask me if I'm interrested of a 2500$ home audio system. He said that his boss ask him to take a delevery of 5 system and the warehouse made a mistake and give him 6 insted of 5. He's asking 500$. I asked to see his delevery order, it was 5 system for 2500$ each from a company L & (something) audio. I've deal him for 400$ and he agreed saying that he dont want his boss to make money on him when he can have it for himself. I'm presently asking the gas station to have his plate number with the camera recording. The Bergmann company exist but they only do turntable. In Montreal, it'seems that many are selling that kind of audio system on kijiji or others. An audio specialist told me that the system have the quality of 'made in china' and that it's especialy build and packaged for scam in north america.
ryan	newcastle, Canada
5/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland tech 1 tanned fucker 5'10 180 lbs. in black jeep Cherokee at 401 service station between newtonville and newcastle village named "frank" said work for bay&bloor radio i was pretty sure i was getting scammed when he was willing to get rid of it for $100 said he lived in cambridge , talked about meeting boss next exit, owed beers if crossed paths again same bs hope they look at this shit cause i have your licence, a lot of expendable resources and i never forget a face so dont be so quick to turn around when u get a tap on ur shoulder cause there will be a BFG just waiting to be unleashed
Steve	Montreal, Canada
5/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland I was accosted while fueling up a the Esso gas station on the corner of Decarie Blvd. & Sherbrooke. I got the 'overstock' story from the passenger while the driver stayed in the black SUV they were driving. After some back and forth negotiations and haggling, i forked over the cash for the speakers. These clowns had the B*LLS to try and upsell me a projector, insisting that I go to a bank machine to withdraw more money. The main douchebag even told me I owed them a beer if we ever crossed paths again, LMAO. I fantasize about that day now... but not because I plan on buying them some nice cold beers. The minute I drove off I knew I had just been taken for a ride. This was a tough way to learn a lesson but it was a damn good one. I'm more disappointed with myself than I am angry at these clowns. I should have known better but greed got the best of me. I know that's probably the whole M.O. of the operation but it's cold comfort. Funny thing is, i haven't even tried the speakers yet. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised! HA HA HA.
mitch	None, Canada
5/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Hyline same story.... two guys with overstock. FML. ripped me 300. how do they sleep at night, they literally watched me cash a cheque. had a full on convo wit these guys, if i ever see those two again i wanna introduce em to mr.bat.
Bryan	Penticton, Canada
5/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Divinci IDF50 One Chinese and East Indian got my attention as I was driving down Main street in Penticton. They gave me the same story about having 2 extra units and they wanted to sell them for some party cash. The east indian was a great salesmen, and I wasn't buying the sales slip and was going to purchase based on them being hot off a truck in vancouver. Ended up paying $400 but didn't get a plate of the white van. Too much pride to even try them out.
Daryl	RICHMOND HILL, Canada
5/8/2010 Product or Service Involved: PARAMAX HI I GOT SCAMMED AS WELL, PETRO CANADA AT BATHURST AND ELGIN MILLS, SAME STORY, FELL FOR IT, DID NOT THINK TO GET THERE PLATE.. IF ANYBODY HAS HAD AN EXPIERIENCE CLOSE TO THAT AREA LET ME KNOW WOULD LOVE TO FIND THESE GUYS!!
wiliam yovetich	London , Canada
5/6/2010 Product or Service Involved: SutherlandST-7 Home Theatre Audio system 2 guys in a silver jeep suv Licence # AXHB 161 same pitch as others "extra" units loaded at warehouse etc. They wanted at least $600. I went for $400. When I contacted my son he alerted me to this site...I haven't opened the box..plan to contact the police with the suv description and licence #.
dirk	williams lake , Canada
5/5/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline audio same as the rest 2 guys in a silver/grey van said they had 3 extra that didnt show up on the load slip,, and had to get to north to quesnel right away to catch their boss said the last guy paid $600 wanted atleast $400..... i paid $300 havent opened the boxes yet
the holmes idiot	near kitchener at the service center on the 401 east, Canada
5/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paragon Audio 2 white guys in a silver hyundi SUV licence plate number ONTARIO PLATES AVLN 489 with Ontario plates.
Scammed	Kitchener, Canada
5/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Shit Same story. Sigh. Listen up, Fellas ... Your faces are burned in my memory ... I look forward to our next run in. I drive around ALL DAY for my job ...
Mr. B	Moncton, Canada
5/3/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology T7 As my friend and I were leaving NBCC Moncton on Mountain road, we were approached by two men in a blue van. They were very excited and said they were delivering speakers from Moncton to Fredericton and had received 9 sets of home audio systems instead of the 6 they signed for. They had catalogues and documentation to make everything look legitimate. These guys were very convincing salesmen and my friend and I honestly thought these were just two guys trying to make a bit of money without their boss finding out. The MSRP printed on the box and in the catalogue was over $3200 and my friend bought a set for $300 after a few minutes of bargaining. When we got to my place and googled the product before opening the box (he originally intended on selling the set online), we realized that we got scammed and what was inside the box supported this conclusion. The speakers were of obviously cheap and shoddy construction and sounded like a cheap set from wal-mart. Not cool. Lesson: If there is an MSRP printed directly on the box, it's not worth nearly what it says. I'd pay $50 for this system. Any more than that and you're getting ripped off.
Cory Godin	Duncan, Canada
5/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Hyline Audio System I was recently approached by a man in white van, claiming he had loaded extra on the truck, was claiming there worth 400, I had 200 hundread on me, and was taking in by the scam, got home the sound works but wont play blue ray and the remote barley works and other things malfunction regularly... these guys need to be given a warning clearly they are all over and this needs to be brought to the authorities attention..
John	Dawson Creek, Canada
4/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland st-7 Same as all the others.. one guy in a van claiming someone loaded two extra units in his van bla bla bla... Never have trusted these types but i had 100 on me and didn't care too much so i bought them.. hooked them up today and they are crap. Like others have said the box is worth more, the remote barely works and the speakers sound horrible.
Steve	St. Catharines, Canada
4/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Pyramax Ontario plate BCFC 043 Guy driving a tan colour GMC Safari Approached me at the Beer Store at Scott/Linwell in St. Catharines, ON. I happen to post on AV Forums all over the internet, AVS Forum, Blu-ray.com forums, etc., etc. Right away after he said "hey buddy, looking to get a nice home theatre system for your home?" I said "what brand" He said "Pyramax" I said "there are about $5 worth of components in those Pyramax speakers, they're white van scam speakers" He got really pissed off when I told him I'd put his licence plate on every white van scam site I could find, haha. These guys are idiots. I should have let him go through the entire spiel and looked at everything really interested until he said how much he'd let them go for, then offer him the two toonies in my pocket, hahaha. Hey DOUCHE BAG! I told you I'd put your licence plate on the internet. I also phoned the St. Catharines police to report consumer fraud and gave the licence plate and description of the van. Stick that up your jumper loser.
Rusty Shackleford	Allover, Canada
4/22/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland, DiVinci, Genesis, Hyline, I'll sell em all! For everyone who's ever bought, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Marc	Vancouver, Canada
4/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Same story as all the others, some guy named Peter Raab, bald headed white dude sold me one for 500 bucks, I ever see the guy again......
Red	Coquitlam, Canada
4/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Bought a system today, 800 bucks, should have known better, sounds ok, black guy in a van
shone	kelowna, Canada
4/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: hl 512 today got scamed for home theater sistem 800 for 2 sets,2 guys,white van,dodge caravan...
FB	Montreal (St-Laurent), Canada
4/16/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Thech 6.1 Speakers This crook scammed me at an intersection in St-Laurent, industrial area. I paid 240$. I opened the box and found out it's freakin crap... didn't even bother to plug it (there were no wires anyways) I trashed it right away. The cardboard box worths more than the entire freakin digital audio system. (Selling this crap in a box on Craig's list, Kijiji, etc, is also a Scam...)
fierry	Brampton, Canada
4/16/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies 6.1 I was getting out of my car when 2 guys approached me. They were really excited and said they had just realized that when they picked up an order for their boss, that there was an extra system worth $2399. they said they would give it to me for 1/3 the price. They showed me invoices and had 2 more sets in the back seat. They said they were going to install the others and couldn't sell them. I asked them why they didn't keep them for themselves. They said they had nowhere to put them as they had to go back to meet their boss right away. They said they were just looking to make some quick cash on a Friday. I had been thinking of purchasing a suond system and guess I got caught up with the BOSS name. I was a little uneasy about it, but thought I would take a chance. Funny because I am such skeptical person. Googled it from my car and scam came up repeatedly...i just hope the dam things work. They cost me $300. White males mid thirties driving Jeep Cherokee at Queen and Kennedy
durjip Aloopa	Vancouver, Canada
4/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax I purchased a Paramax P-701 from two guys in a jeep liberty, when I plugged it in I was dissappointed that it didnt work until I pressed the 7.1 button on the remote control and it sounds beautifully, I thank god it works beautifully, my family and I listen to all our music and watch our bollywood films
Beau Banum	Montreal, Canada
4/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Thech 6.1 Speakers My brother just bought a set of "Sutherland Tech 6.1 Home Theatre System " values at more than 4000$ in a parking lot at Pierre-Elliot Trudeau Airport on April 14th. He paid over 250$ for it. I`m sure he`s feeling pretty bad about it now! Same story as the other ones. Beware people from Quebec, the scammers are in town.
Allister	Vancouver, Canada
4/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Divinci I also got scammed, I am not going to approach these people if I see them again because I am scared, What do i do?
Heather Goodwin	Vancouver, Canada
4/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Same as all the others, bought one for 600 hundred, but I dont care, IM RICH BITCH!!!!!
fred albertson	Vancouver, Canada
4/13/2010 Product or Service Involved: Genesis I purchased a box of Genesis speakers from two guys in a beige suv today. guys were really likeable until the moment I gave them money and then turned into a real asshole! plugged it in and it sounds ok for the 300 I payed
Jeremy	surrey, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: prolines I bought a set of proline towers, they okay, but not worth 400
johnny cash	None, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax fuck you duane
jw	None, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax slammed for huge
speaker man	None, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland baught some sutherlands, paid 500$ I love em!!
jon	van city, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax getting screwed for huge paramax sucks!!!
brad	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline paid 200$,,it says blue ray but its not now thats a scam!!!
tom	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline me to man I got scammed for 250$ and it doesnt play blue rays!!!barely plays DVDs!!!!
Sean Gaile	richmond, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Genesis audio I payed 300 dollars for a set of speakers by the name of Genesis, total crap. did some research to find out they're worth next to nothing!!
jim	montreal, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax fuckin cock suckers. they took my last 45$
aaron	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline I smell like a rat...I look like a rat.....I must be a rat!!! fsssssttt....
andre	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline got scammed for 500$ at sherwood mall...cock suckers!!!
Marco gambit	None, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Me and my friend both got scammed, 7 hundred big ones! the system works but deifntly not high quality
dan adams	None, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline hyline distribuors home address Eran Shomonon 38 royal appian crescent vaughn,Ontario l4k-5l1
dimitri svitla	vancouver, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax speakers Ran into a guy named Terry, this guy was like a rabbid dog who wanted to kill me when I told him I knew the scam. He was about to knock me out when I jumped into my car and drove away. Watch out for this guy!!
kris	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: divinci So I was parked in a parking lot waiting for my wife and this dude in a fairly new black jeep compass pulls up beside me and tells me that he has 3 surrond sound systems that we over ordered...he sold me but I didn't buy one...then I googled it and I saw this website...unreal I tell ya... So watch out London...there here aswell!!
sam hill	Richmond, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Audio Same old story, was at richmond mall and some black guy pulled up in a brand new blue caravan asking if I wanted a home theatre, I took the bait like a total idiot and ended up with this 7.1 for 380 dollars. I learned my lesson, no more buying out of the back of a van for me! What an idiot I am!
pat	barrie, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline In one of the Molson Park in Barrie parking lots by Scotia Bank I was appoached by the white van. A short fat guy and his companion wearing a black toque scammed me. They might still be in the area, so please warn people....they "said" they were heading north to Orillia in a hurry. I wouldn't doubt if the people running the scams made this webpage...hopefully not!
mikoski	woodbridge, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: davinci theseee speakkrrs areee nott worthh $600!!!!
john adams	calgary, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax fuck you scammers!!!
allan	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline Product or Service Involved: Hiline Speakers I bought a set of Hiline speakers today, god, what was I thinking! They say they have a bluray but wont even play blurays! I guess I should have known better, after all I thought I was fucking over some big company somewhere by taking them and ended up with the short end of the stick, oh well....I will know better for next time, 800 dollar mistake
peter bobino	Vancouver, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Hiline Speakers I bought a set of Hiline speakers today, god, what was I thinking! They say they have a bluray but wont even play blurays! I guess I should have known better, after all I thought I was fucking over some big company somewhere by taking them and ended up with the short end of the stick, oh well....I will know better for next time, 800 dollar mistake
thomas	hamilton, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline Coming home from Hamilton, I stopped in the service station on the 401, outside of London. Guy in a red Dodge Durango, with a blond girl in the front seat who didn't say anything. I thought he wanted directions so I went over to see him. Gave me the exact same story, down to being a fast talker, and the beer money. Gave up $300 for a "$4800" system. Wish I could find him again.
hanz	winnipeg, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax 2 guys stopped me at the bank lot,same old sotry, paid 200$....not worth it
adam	vancouver, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax paid 350$ they dont even work!!!!
mary	brampton, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: elite audio A young man sold me what i thought was a complete system for $500. How could i be so foolish, when i came home to surprise my husband, he almost beat me senseless, turns out there was no receiver, thanks a lot eran, if thats your real name.
adam cahs	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax paid 500$ worth 5$
tony	toronto, Canada
4/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: hyline LMAO .. i was approached by 2 guys at the Shell gas station . Had some "extra" sets by accident . Didnt wanna give them back to his boss .. so they were selling them for themselves. Too funny . I looked at the stuff . It showed they were worth like $4995.00 . Said he would sell me one set for 300$ . They were in a silver dodge caravan. I almost bought it . HAHAH .. was a great deal . all brand new stuff . Genesis brand . Good quality stuff . Too bad i missed out . Could have used a great deal . HAHHAH . kidding .
Sam	Richmond, Canada
4/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland St-50 Here are some pictures of the scammer. Someone do something about this guy as the cops are not gonna do anything even after I filed a report. I got pictures of the scammer as I met them twice. You are not going away this time. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs396.snc3/24111_104619882913253_100000957260386_33135_415133_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs396.snc3/24111_104619886246586_100000957260386_33136_7827608_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs376.snc3/24111_104619892913252_100000957260386_33137_1210878_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs396.snc3/24111_104619899579918_100000957260386_33138_7907966_n.jpg
JimBeam	Winnipeg, Canada
4/7/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technology Same thing as all the others got extra product yada yada gav him my 200 and on my way I went read this and here we are silver caravan new style at wal-mart on empress
ffs	toronto, Canada
3/31/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland st 6.1 steve, black ford mnivan. bc plates. sherway gardens mall. my last 200 bucs. fucking weak.
Zac	Burlington, Canada
3/30/2010 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Same as val, approached after exiting the Burlington Mall on Prospect and Guelph by the creme/white GMC Yukon with a license plate # I don't remember but it had a Maple Leafs logo, guy tried to sell me speakers for the $1800 price or whatever, and I was told him no, then he showed me pamphlets and what have you, and I became a little convinced, I explained how I was broke blah blah christmas time, and he said whatever you can pay for them. I gave him approximately $180 for two tower speakers and that was that... I should have been suspicious at that point but oh well, if they are actually crap I can just take them apart and fiddle around with them for school.
C-Man	Waterloo, Canada
3/25/2010 Product or Service Involved: Home Theatre System Blue late 90s model GMC Van approached at Royal Bank Plaza at University and King St., Waterloo... asked if I was interested in home theatre system. New it was a scam and told him to bugger off. He sped off, but I managed to follow him in my car where he started trying to sell his crap to other people in the Shell gas station at University & Weber. I got his license plate then: AZPR 438. Guy is in his late 20s, white, skinny, blond hair, dirty clothes and backwards baseball hat.
Almost duped	Burnaby, BC, Canada
3/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Don't remember Blue Domestic Van, clean. Two white guys, 1 of them very slick salesperson. Around 1pm today i'm walking down kingsway in burnaby near buller ave, and a van pulls up asking if i wanted any speakers. He says to follow him and he pulls over on the side of the road. He quickly tells me that they received too many of them and needs to get rid of them as they were 'free'. He shows me this impressive looking box, with the brand name "Brynwell" or Brenwell, something like that, just never heard of it. I mention i never heard of it and he gets his buddy in the van to show me this magazine with all these other brands i never heard of. He then shows me the side of the box which had a MSRP of 3500+ and keeps asking whats the maximum amount I could come up with. I said I didn't want to lowball him, he keeps pushing. I eventually told him I am a poor student and can only come up with 200. He then says how about 300, i say no thanks and gluck. I start walkin away and he says, how about 250. At that point I just said no, he said i was 'missing out'. Looking online with how many are duped, i'm glad I didn't fall for this.
J	St. John's, Canada
3/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technology I was caught off guard yesterday when a fellow approached me in a red ford escape, lic plate # HLO 773. He was trying to sell me this high end stereo. He had reciepts to show they were not stolen. I purchased the unit for $200. I brought it home and checked it out. It was a piece of crap. I normally wouldn't fall for that crap, but we all make mistakes. I went searching for this fellow. I meet up with me him today at a gas station trying to sell a stereo to another person. I approached him, exchange a few words and I got all my money back. He tried to offer me another stereo. I wasn't leaving without my money. I followed him for awile to find out where he lived but I never had any luck. Its a good thing I never found him last night. The RNC don't really seem to care. He's going to do this to the wrong person and he's going to get hurt.
Buck	St-leonard, Canada
3/20/2010 Same thing in a parking lot gray vane license from Quebec ... he spoke Quebec french .... got me real bad for 200$$. I better not se him again you know what is going to happen i will get my money back promised watch out N-B folks
travis daily	london, Canada
3/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: daviinci So I was parked in a parking lot waiting for my wife and this dude in a fairly new black jeep compass pulls up beside me and tells me that he has 3 surrond sound systems that we over ordered...he sold me but I didn't buy one...then I googled it and I saw this website...unreal I tell ya... So watch out London...there here aswell!!
Dan	Mississauga, Canada
3/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: Hyline My mother bought a system for $300 in Mississauga at Battleford and Brittania. My brother set it up for her and everything worked but the picture was black and white and fuzzy. So this is how I fixed it. Press - Setup TV System - Enter then you see four options NTSC PAL 60 PAL AUTO Scroll down to AUTO with the arrows on the remote control and Press Enter Colour Picture and It Is Clear (not fuzzy) Hopefully the products you folks bought just need to be "setup".
Ardon	St.Catharines, Canada
3/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: Stereo Hey Schuyler, I had an incident with the same van. I googled their plate number and saw your post. License plate #98T067 White GMC Yukon. I first experienced this over a decade ago, and its happened plenty of times in different cities. I've never once bought their crap. I sent a tip off to the local police station last night.
Nick Hynes	St. John's, Canada
3/16/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST-7 We were approached by two guys in a Burgundy mini van today in the parking lot at Costco. They claimed that they had these Surround systems worth $4000, they had been picking one up for there boss and the guy on the loading dock gave them 6 by mistake. They said they were just trying to off load them since there boss only paid for one. They said one guy at Kent(Store up the road) just gave them 1100 for one, and they didn't expect that much...try to sell me on $500. I asked to look at one to see if there was actually anything in the box, and it looked cheap and like it was from Bargin Harolds. I said no thanks, and told then that I had other priorities for my cash... The first guy got back in the drivers side, and the other guy confired with him for a minute and got out the passenger side, and said " Hey, my buddy is a little over zealous, and things like this doesn't happen to us everyday, so how about $250, we just want to off load them" I said no thanks, but good luck. I took out the iphone and googled the brand and found a scam-buster site in Ontario when these guys have been apparently working there way east and I guess they are hear. The brand was Sutherland S-7, the guys were one tall skinny guy with long hair, the other was shorter and medium build. Never got the plate number, but not sure what law they would be breaking, other than being given these (allegedly) by a loading dock guy and not bringing the excess ones back.
Val	Burlintong, Canada
3/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Peragon Home Theatre Duped! Two well-dressed young men, one Portuguese and one Italian (who said his name was Franko) approached me driving a cream-coloured Lincoln Navigator in the partking lot of the Wal-Mart at Appleby and Dundas. Said they worked for Bay Bloor Radio and were doing an installation when they noticed their "boss" had shipped two extra systems - each with MRSP's of $2,399 printed on the box. They showed a work order, and even a glossy catalogue with the same system listed for MSRP of $2,500. Said this had happened before and it "bothered" them that their boss just took them home and didn't return it to the manufacturer. Said they were tired of the rich getting rich. Went on and on about the benefits of the system. They were slick and personable. The one guy even complained to me about his heartburn from drinking too much coffee. I got suckered. "Franko" even gave me his phone number, which rings to a mailbox that is full. I haven't had the stomach to even see if the mess works, but it isn't a Blu-Ray as promised at very least - it's a DVD. Piece of crap.
Vicki	Moose Jaw, Canada
3/9/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies ST-50 One guy driving a green Voyageur/Caravan came into the welding shop where my husband works. He used the 'paid for 6, but they gave me 9 by accident' con. Showed my husband his receipt and everything. Said he was travelling back to Alberta with the shipment and just needed some cash to get back there. He wanted $500, and eventually suckered my husband in at $300. My husband is dumbfounded...the guy had brochures, the receipt, and lots of technical jargon. As soon as he told my about the 'great deal' he got, I knew it was crap. Oh well, hopefully a lesson learned. Beware Moose Jaw!!
Lloyd	None, Canada
3/6/2010 Product or Service Involved: Genesis LMAO .. i was approached by 2 guys at the Shell gas station . Had some "extra" sets by accident . Didnt wanna give them back to his boss .. so they were selling them for themselves. Too funny . I looked at the stuff . It showed they were worth like $4995.00 . Said he would sell me one set for 300$ . They were in a silver dodge caravan. I almost bought it . HAHAH .. was a great deal . all brand new stuff . Genesis brand . Good quality stuff . Too bad i missed out . Could have used a great deal . HAHHAH . kidding .
Lynn P	newmarket, Canada
3/5/2010 Product or Service Involved: peragon audio scam Well, those jerk got me too, in the superstore parking lot in newmarket ont, they honked at me as i walked by, and then when i stopped, convinced me that they had just come from a 'presentation' and had their bosses vehicle, they had to return it to him back in London Ont, and the units they had left over would not be missed and theyd "rather I had this great bargain" then just hand it back to their million air boss. They only took me for $110.00 but I had even told them i really didnt need it (at one point i even said i didnt trust it, in which my dirty looking scam artist, didnt seem to understand my distrust.) and was a student who could not truely afford this extra expense...I literally tried to walk away 4 times. But i adventually gave in...as the guy who stayed in the van suggested that i was getting such a good deal, that if i saw them around i should buy them a drink. well i guess im the idiot here, but at least im not a low life dirtbag like these losers. Well good for them, they made themselves another sale....what a waste of life these people are.
Mike M	Toronto ON, Canada
3/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Surrround They got me. I pulled into a parking spot. They had the invoice with extra units. Showed me the MSRP, $3500 and the tried to get $1400 from me, like the guy that just left with a set. I got him down to $400 and gave it to him. Can't believe it. Silver Hyundia SUV. Sorry no plate number. They snatched me at the Metro on Hanna Ave. They work, sound 'fine,' and will reside in my little office space at home to remind me, if it sounds too good to be true...you know the rest
Brad	None, Canada
2/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST-15 They are now in Regina....I was approached at a red light by a guy in a Black Expedition...got the story about just picked them up and distributor gave them to many by accident.....was asking $1200 for 1 set....soon went to $1200 for 2 sets......I told the guy all I had on me was $100.00. He said he could not go lower than $400 each but soon went to $400 for 1 set......Red Flags started flying....I took a look at the box and sure enough it said MSP was $2499.00....I figured they can not be as bad as the speaker system I have now, so I bought a set for $100.00.....we will see how good or bad they are.
Ken	Kitchener, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Peragon PA-6059 ALERT! These guys are driving a Beige Lincoln Van! In this case, they claimed it was a duplicate shipment and had had to sell the unit rather than give it back to their boss.... There were 2 guys in their late 20's. To show you how low they will go, the people they sold it to said they had no money and were in hard times. They put together $200 bucks.. I tried the system out, it actual did work but wasn't worth the box it was packaged in!
Alvin	Burnaby, Great Vancouver Area, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinci IDF-50 Same thing happened to me today, i was parking my car in this plaza in metrotown area (forgot the plaza's name, across Crystal Mall), a nice caucasian guy driving a red van stopped my car and tell me that he was so happy and lucky since he was supposed to pick up 3 home theater systems but got 3 more by mistake. He told me that he would want to get rid of them before returning his van or otherwise his boss will take the items which worth $3000 something each. At first i rejected his offer because i thought i don need it. Then he showed me the magazine and lift up the trunk and actually open up one of the box for me to see. The speakers did look quite decent and he immediately carried the whole thing to my trunk. I told him that i still don need it but he kept asking me how much you have and he is willing to trade at any price since he is running out of time. So i paid with $240 at the end since the deal was too "great". I believe i don't have to explain the rest but just let you know they are in vancouver now.
boxx	Hamilton, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci 6.1 Home Theatre System Waiting at the bus stop, this white GMC Denali pulls up and calls for me. 2 guys, driver did most of the talking. He asked if I was from around here, so I assumed he was asking for directions so I asked 'where do you wanna go?' and he parked his car and told me to come over. He told me he was delivering speaker sets from Windsor to Hamilton (originally speakers were from Cali), and he said the warehouse added on 2 extra speaker sets. He showed me the invoice, and counted the number of sets in the back. There appeared to be 2 extra like he said. What got me was he was acting all excited, almost like a giddy school girl. It seemed like he couldn't control his excitement that he was going to make some money through the mistake of the warehouse. Later I found out me must have been on coke. He said he had nowhere to stash them in the city because he knew nobody, and he wanted to make some cash off them. He showed me the magazine, didn't really look at it though. I negotiated down to 200... thinking it was a good deal. I was skeptical and told him I didn't wanna get f*cked so he cut the seal and opened the box, showed me a speaker. Then he showed me the warranty quickly, and said I could return it to Cali if I needed to. I wasn't really thinking it was a scam at this point, even though he was acting sketched out. He seemed to be more concerned about ME telling HIS boss, which I later deemed to be a good scam tactic. I asked him if he wanted to bring it inside, and he looked at me and said 'uh.. no'. That should have tipped me off.. but I had already given him the money and had the speakers in my hand. Lil bastards. I just hope these are better than my TV speakers.
LL	cambridge, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Peragon Audio Just happened to me. spent $260.00 on something not worth the box it was packed in. Great people! They know what they are doing. Same licence plates as the post from Kitchener. Girlfriend was with him too.
robert Kemp	Burlington, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Robert Kemp same as everyone else, although these low-lives were in a burgundy SUV (plate was BBKZ 203 - the "KZ" may not be right - but the rest is) Peragon PA-6059HD, garbage... same thing, I should have clued in when they offered to drive me to an ATM - the system does not work, paid $200 - these guys are complete scum bags - still really bummed out that I was dumb enough to fall for it...
LL	cambridge, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Peragon Audio Just read some more posts! these guys have been around along time. I have to hand it to them, they are either really brave or really stupid........like me I suppose! They played me like a fiddle. Drove me to the bank machine. etc etc. Very nice fellow! Ah but when all is said and done, they are going to get theirs. Karma is a bitch. I feel bad for the people who can't re coup from this. Sounds like some victims gave their last dollar until next pay day. Hey, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me! I hope I get a second chance to meet this guy and his girlfriend, wife, whatever........... believe me, it wont be so easy the second time around. Not a total loss though, I couldve given them alot more than what they got.....money well spent..lesson learned.
Donna	Kitchener, Canada
2/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Peragon Audio Speakers We approached by two guys in the parking lot of a small plaza called Courland Plaza. They told us we could purchase this Peragon Audio Complete 1500 Watt Professional 5.1 home system. We purchased this for $220.00 as they showed us it was worth $2399.00 MRSP. The van's license plate was BJAR 807. BEWARE !!!!!
VIKI	mississauga, Canada
2/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: peragon audio home theatre system \i just got scammed by the guy today too. i have his plate number as well, i wish you posted it so that i could have seen if it were the same guy. it was a white SUV four by four he was malado guy with a nice honest looking girl in the passenger seat. does yours work?? it doesn't look like mine is working even he told me it was worth $2300.00
brent	newmarket, Canada
2/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: paragon HEY I GOT THE GUYS THERE LICENCE PLATES IF ANYONE IS LOOKING TO PRESSUE I PAYED 200$ FOR MINE:( EMAIL ME BRENTCORR@LIVE.COM
France	Montr�al, Canada
2/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology 6.1 Was stupid, but maybe more like hypnotised! A nice guy and his girlfriend looking very honest. I paid 300$ that I got out of a GMT while I was kind of observing that whole shit taking place. I got home and finally realised I was robbed! Speakers made out of plastic? Your kidding me. 2399$ ? Yes, sure. Please if they get near you, just say NO and run away! Brown Cherookee Jeep. Or whatever the crapp they drive...
Just Reponding	North York, Ohio
2/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: None The police won't prosecute White Van Frauds. Although it is a scam, selling crap to stupid people is not a crime. If it were, McDonalds, Pizza Pizza and Zellers would all be out of business. If the white van scammers are committing illegal activities, then so is everyone selling on Kijiji, Ebay, garage sales, Craig's list, etc, etc. Seriously, the white van scammers are telling you that they are scamming someone else by selling overshipped product they have. The buyers of this crap start drooling because they think that they are profiting from buying stolen goods. Don't cry foul afterwards - Darwins law applies here.
jj	kelowna, Canada
2/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technology same story as the rest. my father in law was approached by a man in a red van who said that he had ordered the system and two extras got shipped by accident and he just wanted to get rid of them. the price tag on the box said that it was a 4000 system and he even had papers to go along with it. Then he got home and looked up the brand after purchasing the system for 400 ( he thought he had just lucked out on an awesome deal) and what do you know, it turns out that it was a scam. all i could think was if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.
Jano Warwaruk	Winnipeg, Canada
2/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Tech. I really feel stupid and all the signs where there but always looking for a deal it blinded my judgement. So any body out there want to buy the ST-50 still in the box. HA hAhA If I see those little bastards again there will be more than words shared. So how do we get these guys to stop doing this to other people is my question.
Haroon Butt	None, Canada
2/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: Hi Lin I was stopped in Milton Mall parking yesterday....offered the same crap about the speakers. I already knew it was a scam, so i decided to brush them aside but when I was leaving and saw them approching other people in the parking lot, I thought that I should atleast infrom the cops or something. I remebered that there is a police station ebhind the mall...so I drove there. Before getting to the station, I saw a couple of cops car in a vacant parking lot outside of sears there. I approched them and informed them of what was happening.... there said, it was common for people selling stuff from there vans and when I informed him that it was a scam, he wanted to know how it was a scam and when I told him, he said if people are buying stuff from a van what do they expect. They were lazy and did not do anything. I wasted my time finding a cop car and wanted to scream at these idiots for not doing anything but what can you do.... our tax dollars are wasted on these people. They were just sitting in the car and talking to each other.... they could have just gone to the mall which was just 2 minutes away from them and found those guys....but they chose to do nothing.
wow	regina, Canada
2/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technology st-50 -2 young white guys-dark green van -same scam-
Mark Galavan	Nanaimo, Canada
2/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: PA-6059HD The van was not white. A couple of guys pull up and bug me in a parking lot saying that I can get an awesome deal on home theatre system. They appeal to the lowest instinct in us all. Who doesn't want a deal? It's probably all legal what they're doing (go ahead take our licence plates, they said to me) but I told them I don't really need home stereo speakers because I don't even have a proper TV, just a computer to watch TV. (They were also selling projectors w screens for $1000 combo.) They sold me the home stereo system for $300. I go into Future Shop and a sales person tells me that they don't carry that make because it's an oddball brand and that's it's probably worth only about $300 anyway. Feel SO stupid. Next time I ever offered such a "deal", I'm gonna give them two words. Red flags: Why are they in such a hurry to sell these? If it were me, I would just put them in my basement and sell them in a local Buy, Sell and Trade--one by one. If you run into these guys, I suggest just take them through EVERY HOOP and PRICE CHECK with a knowledgeable sales person--to expose their lies and deception.
Eric	Surrey, Canada
2/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technology ST-606 White guy with a scar on right side of mouth Black minivan Extra delivery
Sarah	Kelowna, Canada
2/9/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland st-50 My friend was approached in the parking lot of a music store by a guy driving a dark red minivan. The guy told him he was a stereo installer, and had the warehouse had sent an extra amp and speaker set that he just wanted to sell. He said that the other day the same thing happened and his boss sold it and gave him a gift certificate to the Keg, so he just wanted to sell it himself. He wanted $600 for it and eventually took $350. He was nice and knowledgeable, offered to come and hook it up because that was his job etc etc. It all works and for $350 it sounds pretty good but still . . . watch out.
Sam P	Vancouver , Canada
2/8/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technology s-50 Same story different day. They were at UBC (University of British Columbia) today.
Puddlezz	north bay, Canada
2/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST 6.1 1000 Watts Total System Power Front Center surround Output Power 5x 130 w each Subwoofer Output Power 350 w Magnetically Shielded Center & Corner Speakers Complete 6 piece Surround Sound System. My uncle was approached outside the bank by a couple teenagers. He paid 300 for the system. Maybe I was scammed too, I bought if from him for 100. It didn't come with instructions when I bought it and I need someone to tell me how to hook it up. Thanks so much. \m/ _ \m/
adam	weyburn, Canada
2/1/2010 Product or Service Involved: st-50 you sons of b**es ripped off my buddy, and me and i hope you rot in jail. F*ers...
FUCKEN PISSED OFF CARLIE	Pitt Meadows, Canada
2/1/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Innovative Digital Audio Home Theatre Systme ST-50 Same shit as everyone else, now only if i had an Iphone to look this shit up before I fell for it! So...Pitt meadows canadian tire parking lot, two white men in their mid 30's drive up in a newer burgandy/red mini van and ask if we are interested in a home theatre system. We said hahaha what do you mean? Whats the catch. SO...Dwayne Senchey, the passenger gets out and opens the van door and starts talking about how he worked for a trucking company and they got extra in the shipment and he didn't want to go back to the warehouse cause his boss would just keep it for himself. So he asked for $1000 we said $100 he said $300 we said $200 and bought it for $250. They followed us to the bank and we went our separate ways. TOO BAD WE WEREN'T smart enough to get a license plate or just not buy it... IF YOU SEE THIS CALL THE COPS RIGHT AWAY! BEWARE! P.s. it doesn't sound TOO bad actually. I am not mad that we got it just that it is a scam and they got away!
rick	prescott, Canada
2/1/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technogy st-15 two young meat heads in a car from t.o.had one extra that the shipping company gave them.they said that they worked for bose.i bought one and woundering if i should even open it.prescott ont.Canada
FranK	montreal, Canada
1/30/2010 Product or Service Involved: A fucking suterland tech this fucker in a white grand caravan was fucking good but i find his adress with he plate in know that he leave in boucherville and will find him... i Wan my 500$ back.... this fucking wi-fi speaker is fucking CrapSS!!!!!&%#^%#*%^#
none	Saskatoon, Canada
1/30/2010 Husky Truck stop in saskatoon. Guy wanted $600 but took $200. Beware of this scam.
PISSED	st. albert, Canada
1/29/2010 Product or Service Involved: st 606 We were scammed by these guys at the BMO parking lot in St Albert. Very clean cut looking guys saying the same old story about how they were shipped a few too many and originally wanted 1000$ from us. He got it down to 400$ and we bought it. They leaves saying we got "such a good deal" and if we see him in the bar, we owe him a few drinks. Get home to look it up to see the real value and see this page! They dont sound that great, but at least they work-for now. I am FUCKING PISSED. I talked to the RCMP and It isn't illegal what they are doing but they are dealing with the fair trade act as they are lying about what they're selling and more than likely selling without a business license. If your in Alberta, you should call Service Alberta to complain.
Duane Senger	Saskatoon, Canada
1/29/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology Young guy tried to sell me a stereo system. Because I was involved with this scam in 2009, I kept the guy waiting until the police arrived. The police were able to fine the guy $1000.00 for 2 offences of selling without a licence.
my name	Kitchener, Canada
1/28/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-15 So my friend got scammed by a couple of guys in a blue van at the Fairview Mall parking lot. They showed him invoices, a flyer, etc.. He paid $300 for the speakers and felt so stupid that he left them at my place.
Chris	grimsby, Canada
1/27/2010 Product or Service Involved: st 6.1 So some Chinese guy comes up to me and my friend when im leaving wall mart on centenial and asks me how to get to the mall because hes late meeting up with his boss. he shows me the speakers and says his drunken boss gave him an extra so he wants to make some "quick money" so dont get why i didnt figure it out but luckily i only payed 100 dollars my friend payed 140 :) but still pretty pathetic to scam 17 year old kids thats low. anyways he was a white asian in a honda civic with a big muffler.
bob	Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
1/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-606 home theatre system A brown dude with no accent in a late model grey minivan. Walmart parking lot on Upper James. He was really hyper and excited acted as if he just received an extra set of speakers via invoice mistake. He was on his way to meet his boss wanted to unload them before his boss would see them. worth >$4G, but will take what ever i can get from my bank, was going to a titty bar with the money. He played it very well. Brought it home and it didn't work.
crystal ferrigan	timmins, Canada
1/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: southern technologies My Buddy was at work here in timmins and was approached by a slender dark skinned guy with an awesome deal on a surround sound speakers for 500.00 dollars. my buddy turned them down and than the second chubbier white guy stepped out of the passenger seat and said i will take what you have in your wallet. My buddy paid 200.00 dollars for these speakers, we have not tried them but now that he seen this they are forsure part of the white van speaker scam..the speakers do not work. They were driving a white van and were willing to take any amount of money for them. the price on the box was 3000.00 dollars.
Peter	Richmond , Canada
1/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies Fucken douchebag in a red van came up to me today. Said the same deal about being a delivery mixup. Damn, I paid him 800$ for this piece of junk. Anyone who sees the guy in a red van and sounds over enthusiastic, get his license plate and arrest him.
curtis	burnaby bc, Canada
1/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland st-50 faggot in a red minivan same as all the other stories said he got extra in a delivery im going to post this up on my facebook and tell evryone i know if they see something like this that its a scam these guys are getting way to many pople. icant believe the trouble they went through for this they even made a fake website i hope i get someone else to try this on me ill take everything he has.
Richard Hinde	Kitchener, Canada
1/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: SUTHERLAND ST 50 I was approached by 2 guys in a white acura MDX in a zellers parking lot, said they worked for boss (wearing boss shirts) they told me that they got an extra system thrown in by mistake. They claimed to be in there bosses wifes car. I said I would look at it. They started going off about it showing me the 3200 price tag and what not. It was still sealed with the factory tape and everything and they wouldn't sell me the better system they had, said they had to install in the afternoon. So They tried to push an "ATM limit price". I said I will give you 100 bucks. They laughed and said they wanted to go to the tittie bar not the snack bar. I said have a good day and hoped in the car when I almost ran over his assistant, he was trying to sell it now. So he came to the window and said give use each 100 bucks and it yours. I took it. Brought it home and pluged it in, works great, not worth 3200 but for 200 it is a wicked system.
Should Have Known	Mississsauga, Canada
1/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: PA 6059-HD Peragon DVD player with speakers, cables Should have gone with my gut feeling. It happened in the mall parking lot, Rockwood Mall, in Mississuaga when this red SUV or Ford Escape pulled up, rolled his window down, while I was parking my car. I thought he was going to ask me for directions. He was a very pleasant and charming guy and I know that I would recognize the both of them if I saw them again. He said, "You're going to think I'm crazy, but we're from Windsor, here for 3 days to attend and set up for an entertainment show. When we picked up our order we ended up with 1 extra system. Surround sound with DVD player which would read Bluerays. We're not from the area and we could use the money for some party cash and help pay for our room. They wanted to get rid of it before they met up with their boss because he would only keep it for himself. Why should the rich get richer. They were headed to Dundas and Cawthra but wouldn't tell me where the trade show was. Showed me the catalogue and the price on the box which was $2,399.00. I ended up giving him $400.00. His name is Patrick, reddish/strawberry blonde, his buddy, dark hair, both of them in their late 20's, early 30's. Both very charming. Haven't tried the system
jarvis	edmonton, Canada
1/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: sutherland man i was at home depot for work and some dudes in a black suv pulled up and just like everyone else told me their bullshit story, one of them was tall and bald the other guy was really small and looked like he lived in a gutter, to be honest they kinda both looked like that they had a nice truck but they both looked like they slept on a street corner. i bought the thing read this site and was pissed, but i hooked it up and it actually sound alrite i mean for the 250 i paid its alrite , no hdmi or hdtv or satalite radio but whatever. anyways anyone who hasnt hooked it up might as well try i mean u already bought it right, might as well use it for something, maybe radio/coffee table.
Jason	windsor, Canada
1/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: da vinci idf 40 surround sound The bastards are now in CANADA! i came out of the mall recently to a white chevy suv with two guys inside. They had a huge order of speakers loaded up said they were delivery boys and told me they were accidentaly given 2 extra sets of speakers, and were trying to make some money for themselves. They first tried to punk me for 1500! the MSRP (which is how they described the price) was $3495 american. I said no, they persisted, then my own stuupid selfish, moronic instinct said, when am i ever going to get a deal like this. How about 300 i said, and the guys took it. I hope for their sake...the dont see me again.
Mike	Valleyview, Canada
1/18/2010 Van showed up in the parking lot of the hotel I manage. My maintenance man was outside cleaning the parking lot when the van pulled up beside him and wanted to know if he would like to buy a home theater system. Said it retailed for $4000 and they would unload it to him real cheap as they had extras. He declined and they pursued. He eventually got my attention and I told them there was to be no solicitation on the premises. They tried selling them to me and I said I would call the cops if they didn't leave. They left.
Zay	Saskatoon, Canada
1/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Hyline Audio HL-612 Was the day after boxing day and was just heading to the Scotiabank in Stonebridge to make a deposit. After I finished I went back to my vehicle and started to drive away when 2 guys in a Newer BMW X5 rolled their window down and asked me if I wanted a deal on some home audio. I was interested so decided to pull over and see what they had. There was a guy about 5'10 driving and some tall skinny ratty looking wangster in the passenger seat. They said that same old bullshit blah blah they came from Ontario to pick up some audio from head office in Saskatoon but they accidentally gave them 2 extra. Said that the last time this happened their boss just threw them in his truck and took them home. Said that they just wanted to sell them for some extra cash before heading back to Ontario. They had a shipping order receipt that they waved at me to show that it wasn't stolen. That's what I was mostly thinking about, not a scam. So anyways we talked they said they wanted 500 bucks but I told them I only had 180. They were like well we just wanna get drunk tonight so whatever we'll take it. They were really persistent on "Yo can i just throw it in your truck". So anyways I went back into the bank and withdrew 160 and told em i only had 175 so i couldn't get 180. They asked me to throw in a GPS or some cd's but i said no. So i got home with the stuff and looked it up and saw this. Was pretty pissed but got some revenge. Told a couple friends that this happened to me and Guess what? they were approached by another 2 guys in that BMW x5 but the driver was different. But the ratty looking wangster was the one trying to sell now. They said to them that they wanted them and they were gonna call there friend to bring the money. Well they called me and me and another buddy drove there. As soon as they saw me they jumped back into there SUV leaving 1 box on the ground. I ran out and threw a tire iron at the back of there BMW so thats gonna cost more to fix than the 160 they got from me. plus i got another set now. Threw them both in the garbage
Been Had	St. Catharines, Canada
1/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-50 Like all of the others, I can't believe this as*hole got me. I've never been scammed before and didn't realize someone would do it to my face...not like this. Or go to this much detail with fake shipping bills and he even showed me a fake ad in a magazine for it. The thing that really got me was I was actually looking to buy one in the next month or two. If it hadn't been for that, I wouldn't have even considered it. I haven't even tried to hook it up yet to see if it even works. I'm more focused on hunting this dickless POS down and gutting him. It's too bad I didn't know about this before. Happened in a Canadian Tire gas station at Glendale. Whatever your name is, if you're reading this, hope I don't run into to you again. Either way, this will come back to haunt you. I learned one thing today, nothing is too good to be true. And so you will you.....
Fab	Montreal, Canada
1/7/2010 Product or Service Involved: Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST-50 Two guys stopped me while at a red light saying they have an extra sound system. i pulled over they showed me the unit and the price said they wanted 800 for it i offered 700. we stopped at a bank and as i was waiting in line to pull out money i googled it from my iphone and noticed it was a scam. so i got out and said no thank you - be careful lots of scams out there. The guys were driving a black navigator -
Luke	Ottawa, Canada
1/7/2010 Product or Service Involved: 6.1 Happened 6 Jan 2010. parking lot of St-Laurent shopping mall in Ottawa. Sold me faked Sutherland home theatre 6.1 for $500. 2 young white males driving Black GMC pickup truck. Quebec plate 919QXL.
matt	niagara falls, Canada
1/6/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax projection television 2 men in a chevy avalanche offered a paramax projection television system for 1000 dollars. i didn't buy it, but after a little research i figured i'd report it. this happened on Lundy's Lane, in the parking lot of a grocery store.
John the Sucker	South Burnaby, Canada
1/3/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST-50 I was heading for the Canadian Tire at Market Crossing. Wayne or Dwayne called me over to look at the "extra" stereo systems he had received by mistake. Ya, sure. He was driving a red Chrysler mini van BC licence 542 RDC Read previous reports to find out how he performed. Anyway he got $200 from me and I got a cheap stereo. Remarkably, it works (about as well as a cheap ghetto blaster). Clearly this brand is designed to be sold only as a scam. The Chinese will put anything you want on a package or device. Too bad no one will see this website until after they have been scammed. I will keep my eyes open for this guy. I want to hurt him; financially, of course. ; )
Goldees khan	Mississauga, Ohio
1/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology Ok, I am a dummy - It took some time for me to realize. One day in Oct I was cleaning up my car at Esso Gas station on HuronOntario and Britannia, and Couple of guys wearing some kind of technical uniform came out and approched me, asking if I am interested in buying a state of the art Audio System and I asked them how much - I have had plans to upgrade my TV to a big screen lcd and also get a Home Theatre - So I thought this will be a good start -- I usually never - ever buy stuff on the road etc. But these guy's really got me - they looked clean cut hard working young men - out of a SUV - wearing technical clothes (say like geek squad does) and I took a look at the invoices etc. I asked why they are selling the product to me at $ 500 when the invoices show that at 2500, they told me that they want to pocket the money as they are getting laid off shortly and they came to know informally and their manager hasnt informed them -- yada yada yada and they really needed the money and told that these systems will be left in the warehouse with the distribution company going backrupt anyway - yada yada yada - anyway I fell for it and now after boxing day buying - I bought a 60 inch plasma from future shop / A good receiver / Blue ray disk player and did NOT buy some good Speaker audio system as I thought I had it. I called the installer and as soon as he saw my speaker system he smiled at me and that smile ( I cant get it out of my head - and it is no fault of my installer - I dont blame him) still is lingering in my head - because that smile told me that I got screwed. Then of course he goes on to explain that this system is one piece of shit and should not be part of whole set up - he is a good guy, he will be coming back next week postponed my appointment with him. But the problem is that boxing days sales are gone now, and I will be ending up buying the speakers for an expensive price and also I am very much aching for the $ 400 (bargained it down from $500, the scammers had asked). I googled it and found this site -- I am taking out time to write about it - cant even tell my wife that I was scammed - have to make some story up that I returned the system whereas I will be dumping it. Cant add the misery of my wife nagging me which will be bigger cause for my depression that the scammers :)
Tyler Roulston	London, Canada
1/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: SutherLand Technologies I was at the mall with the two kids I babysit and my friend and this guy about twenty to thirty years of age pulls up. He was rambling on about some home theatre system and told us his boss gave him an extra one, blah blah blah, so after about half an hour he sold it to me for 300$ which was my paycheck. :/ Then I figured I could flip it because i had no use for the thing so i posted it on Kijiji.com and got replies about it being a scam and i had no clue what anyone was talking about. MasonVille Mall, London Ont.
Anon	Vancouver, Canada
12/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-50 Driving near Hastings and Broadway and a guy pulls up next to me in traffic and starts yelling at me about home theater systems. I wasnt busy so I decided to pull into a parking lot and see what he had. Told me the same old story about receiving too many from the warehouse and his boss would just take them for himself and blah blah blah..... Finally agreed to give him $480 for the set that claimed to be worth $3200. Extremely stupid of me for not thinking longer about but these guys know what they're doing and use some real effective high-pressure sales tactics. The speakers themselves dont seem that bad but definitely not worth $480. Maybe around $50. Oh well, i'll just use them as a reminder and know that its a lesson learned. Karma will get back at the people doing this scam anyway so I'm not worried. One day they will scam the wrong person and will end up dead or in the hospital.
George	Stoney Creek, Canada
12/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: Hyline HL-612 Some guy in a Beige Chevy Van who had blue eyes and spoke very fast. He was with his wife and had plenty of merchandise in the van to scam more people. If somone could post the guy's liscence plate number he can be caught and hopefully me andm nay others can get their money back. I wanted to sell the system, but anyone who pays over $1 for this is getting ripped off. Lets help each other out and get this guy and his wife caught!
Jacob Smith	Toronto, Canada
12/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology Speakers (ST-6.1) So I was Scamed today outside of Home Depot. Two Guys approached me with what seemed like a deal and I went against my better judgement and decided to give them three hundred for the crappy speakers. I did my research when I got home and found out that my instincts were correct. The people who approached me were two white males in there mid to early thirties. They where driving a Lexus SUV with license plat BDCT 863. I know there is nothing that can be done by it and have learned my lesson (Harshly). All I know is that karma will come around.
Heather	Regina, SK, Canada
12/26/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technologies I was in Costco parking lot in a whirlwind snowstorm, trying to get my baby into the truck. Two late-teen guys came up offering me a stereo because they had one extra that their boss would just steal. They told their sob story how they were just trying to make some money for Christmas, working at $13/hr. I told them I wasn't interested and they begged me, saying they only had 20 minutes to sell the item because they had to go back to the shop. Like an idiot, I even offered to hold on the to system for them so they could sell them to someone else. What a freaking idiot I am! I was just trying to be nice, and when they said they'd take $400, I figured everyone benefited. Either my husband would be over the moon this Christmas or we could sell them to help finish the basement in the house we just bought. I didn't even want the damn things! I just wanted to help them out and I figured getting a good deal on speakers would be good for me too. I am horridly embarrased, and I'm not a stupid person, nor am I generally a greedy person. This could happen to ANYONE! I hope these theives burn in hell.
cam	saskatoon, Canada
12/25/2009 Product or Service Involved: sutherland tech. st-50 At about 12pm on Dec.20 i pulled up to the Co-Op gas station on 22nd street to wash my windows, when a newer BMW x5 pulled up next to me. A guy in his early to mid 20's asked me if i wanted to buy a complete still-in-the box surround sound system. the only reason for giving it consideration was because that's what i was going to get my parents for x-mas. So he gave me the story that he worked at some stereo shop and had ordered too many of these units, and even showed me a bill of landing for it. Not paying attention i quickly looked at it and then looked at the box and saw the "MSRP" price of about $3200 bucks. he told me he wanted whatever i could give him for it because they needed it for party money. so i gave him a low ball offer of 250. The guy said forget it and got back into his BMW. then two seconds later, his buddy came running up and told me "my buddy is being greedy, we will take 300 though" so after dicking around, i went in and took out 260 bucks and gave it to them. then they started arguing over who would get the bigger cut for the party money. I just thought they were 2 coke heads that were hard up for dope money, because its not everyday someone goes that low on something that says $3200. so when i got home i cracked the box open and tested it out. everything seemed fine, except the fact that i bought my parents a shitty surround system. However i know they are still in the city as of today because a friend of mine bought the same system. So dont worry folks, if i see them again, i will have a few words with them...
Steven	Scarborough, Canada
12/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: Samurai Speakers Samurai Speakers 300RMS (3-way)
James	London , Canada
12/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies After work one day I was at a local mechanic's shop with my Dad who was getting his car fixed. I was about to pull out and these two sketchy guys in a red Ford F-150 started waving me down AS I'M TURNING ONTO THE STREET. I thought there was a problem so I reversed back into the lot. They tried to sell me 'Sutherland Technologies' speakers, claiming there was one extra box 'accidentally thrown into the truck at the factory'. They told me I 'looked cool' so they figured they'd sell it to me. There names were 'Kris' and 'Faisel', and I know EXACTLY what they look like, they said they were from somewhere about an hour away. Anyhow, my Dad came over, showed some interest, and they won us over. I ended up driving one of those assholes TO MY HOUSE...where they proceeded to coax both of my parents into buying their shit for $800. Luckily I dropped them to $200...and it didn't seem that bad. They gave me their names and numbers and told me 'we should chill downtown sometime'. Unfortunately I never called them, and I know I'll never truly have a great time until I get drunk with THOSE guys... Anyways, after seeing this site, I realized how stupid me and my family were...atleast we didn't pay $800 though. I guess they got $100 each, and a good way to look at it is that they probably went to Jack's (local London club), danced drunk and awkardly on the packed dancefloor, blew their money on expensive drinks for girls, picked up two slutty underagers, and proceeded to get their asses kicked by police and bouncers for public intoxication, urinating on a stop sign, and trying to have sexual relations with 17 year olds. Seeing as that's probably what happened to them, I'm glad my family's money went to their night out. Have fun in prison, Kris. Don't fall for these guys.
Bri	Airdrie, Canada
12/22/2009 Product or Service Involved: hyline-612 I actually don't feel so bad about this one. I was sitting in the parking lot of a strip mall when a van pulled up, the guy gave me the same story about having a couple of extra blue-ray dvd players and speakers and wanting to get rid of them at a fraction of the msrp. I admit I was greedy, and suspicious, and also more than a little bitter because one of my staff had been scammed with some counterfeit cash the evening before. so I gave the guy three hundreds that were the fakes my staff member took, and on real hundred that I had on me. So here I was heading home feeling guilty about passing on fake bills untl I found this site and the scam stories.
Shawn	Winnipeg, Canada
12/22/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Tech Got flaged down by to guys late 20's in a silver pontiac van in home depot parking lot. Said they were installers, boss gave them too many systems. Said boss pissed them off and they didnt want to give them back to him. Wanted 700 settled on 150 for the best one they had (st 606) deff not worth the 4200 they claimed (had prof on some fake flyer that looked legidt) thought i was gettin a great deal till i got home and googled them. Not a great system but probably worth the $150 bucks
Barry	London, Canada
12/21/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies - ST-90 No Van again but they are advertising them on Kijiji
Joey Campbell	Regina Sk, Canada
12/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technologies Great News...These guys in the Black BMW SUV were slinging their crap (Sutherland Technologies ST-50's). After feigining interest, I told them where they could put their speakers, then went into the Southland Mall in Regina to do my shopping. When I came out, the cops were on them like stink on a monkey. I watched for a minute and saw them leave in cuffs. Yay cops!!
David Wade	Calgary, Canada
12/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Two white males approached me in the parking lot of a Safeway in NW Calgary asking if i wanted a sound surround system for my home. They had 4 in their van and said they were overstocked and it was too expensive to keep them as inventory. They showed me a believable pamphlet showing the speaker price was listed at $2,200 and the same price was printed on the box. They also showed some credentials that had the company logo on them. I should have realized it was a scam but obviously didn't. They wanted 600 and i told them i was a student and could get maybe 200 at which point they agreed. I know own a sound system i have absolutely no use for as i was only buying it to resale and cant in good continence sell this online to anyone. I have put it up for sale on Kijiji with a full explanation of how i obtained the product and that i am looking for $200 or best offer.
Nailed	Saskatoon, Canada
12/14/2009 Product or Service Involved: ST-50 Same M.O. as Lucky Guy but I fell for it. Black BMW SUV, Ont. plates two white guys mid to late 20's. Got hit in Wal-Mart parking lot in Confederation Mall. Didn't get a good look at driver as he was wearing a touque but the second guy was about 5'10 medium build, black hair, wearing a red jacket and black under armour gloves. If you see them please post what parking lots they are trolling or where they hang out after if they are even still in town.
Della	Cambridge, Canada
12/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Peragon PA-6059 HD DVD player and surround sound speaker system
JayB	Kitchener, Canada
12/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland speaker set ST 50 Watch out for a blueish Acura MDX guy came up to me with a Sutherland speaker set ST-50 saying his boss is just going to get rid of it. Supposedly worth 3200 but sold it for 250. Look for a website and there isn't much information. Feel dumbass for buying it and I hope this word gets out about this.
Jeff Virgin	Taber, , Canada
12/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST90 Home Audio Platinum Series 5.1 Surround Same garbage, just no van, seller is " Just selling something I don't need. " Watch this seller, try to pass this stuff off as " retailing for 3400.
Lucky Guy	Saskatoon, Canada
12/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-50 I was approached today in a parking lot by two young white guys (mid 20's) in a Black BMW X5 SUV with ontario license plates that asked if I wanted to buy a Home Theatre system for cheap. They claimed that they had an extra set of speakers that they didn't need to deliver and so they wanted to sell them for anything they could get. They showed me the msrp written on the box by the barcode stating $3299.99 and then grabbed some magazine that I didn't recognize and flipped it open to show the same product (Sutherland Technology ST-50)listed at that price. They said this has happened to them before where they were accidentally given an extra box for delivery and out of their goodwill they took it back to their boss, only to see their boss throw the box in his truck and take it home. So they said "We figured like $500 for the speakers, because that's my ATM limit, so you should be able to get that" and I said I don't ususally buy things like this without hearing them and shopping around for them. They said "well check it out on your phone right now and see how much they're going for", so I did and found them on kijiji going for 200-450 and he was like "well those could be knock offs too cause there are some of those going around" He kept talking fast and saying how good of a deal this was and to just give him an offer. I said I would maybe pay $200 for them, then they countered with 400 and I said no. They lowered it to 300, and I still said no. As I was walking away, they said "hey how bout 250 so its a case of beer for each of us too" and I said No. They drove away and as I began to think I may have turned down a good deal, I typed "Sutherland Technology ST-50 Reviews" into google on my phone. They I came across this website and was VERY relieved, and couldn't believe that I almost got taken by these scums! "If it seems too good to be true, it usually is" IF SOME YOUNG GUYS COME UP TO YOU IN THE PARKING LOT TRYING TO SELL YOU SPEAKERS, WALK AWAY!!!
lorraine rowland	london, Canada
12/8/2009 I was on the main street called highbury in London Ontario Canada with my husband when we decided we were going to stop to get something to eat at the McDonald's not that far up. Upon pulling into the lot this white van with a ton of speakers tells my husband that they just hit a gold mind as there boss had loaded way to many speakers and that they wanted to sell them to make a little on the side as the drivers don't make all that much money. They went on to say that the speakers were worth well over 3500$ but for us they would sell it for 800$. When we said we did not have that kind of money to give they they lowered the price to 400$ but still we did not bite. we told them to leave us alone that we were not interested and we went in for supper. They did wait a little while outside the McDonald's to see when we were coming out but eventually left.
Richard Theiss	Vancouver, Canada
12/7/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies ST-50 Sutherland Technologies Speakers are a SCAM - tell the guy to go drive off a cliff! A fellow by the name of (supposedly) Dwayne Senchey - (he even showed me his ID) scammed me today to the tune of $300 for a ST-50 5.1 home theatre sound system...he signed a receipt... I haven't been scammed in 30 years...there goes my Christmas spending money... I go look up the business he says he's from, and there is no such business (Boss Theatre Equipment, 128 Manville, Unit #27 Scarborough, Ontario.
none	winnipeg, Canada
12/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technology 5.1 surround sound system. was in home depot parking lot when i was approached by these 2 supposedly installation techs that had extra units and didnt want to take bk to their boss, cause they would only get a thankyou from him, they had a magazine describing the product as a quality and well worth the price. the price is in the $3200 range. realise now. i was scamed. havent installed yet. paid $300
calgary , alberta	calgary, Canada
11/27/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis g 506 Some jerks pulled up and showed me the home theaters tellin me the same story as everyone else and since i had nnever heard of this scam i fell for it. paid $900 for 2 of these stupid things and they dont even work. well they work but they suck. guess you cant believe everything you hear.
none	Kelowna, Canada
11/25/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Two guys pull up in a black SUV claiming to have some sort of home theater that they could sell and that they didnt steal. They claimed it was a shipping error and that even the boss wouldnt return it, they asked me for $800 but i laughed and said i could get $500. I paid them $500 for a divinci dv 505 and to be honest i hooked it up and man it sounds pretty good. not worth the $3500 msrp but still for $500 the thing is pretty good. The sub isnt the best but other than that, not a bad purchase.
Jared M	Saskatoon, Canada
11/24/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology ST-50 On Tuesday, November 24th, 2009 a person who claimed his name was Adam Quinn approached me in front of my house asking if I wanted to buy a home theatre system. Adam was driving a Grey Dodge Caliber, liscence # 207GMR. At first I became consious that this may be a scam. Adam proceeded to tell me that he was a speaker installer that just finished doing a couple jobs. He said that the wholesale supplier, Carpak Distributing Corp., mistakenly placed one extra home theatre system on thier pallet they received at their warehouse. Adam told me that this particular product (SutherLand TechnoLogy ST-50) had a MSRP value of $3229.99 and was willing to sell it to me for $420. I agreed to the offer, beleiving Adam, that the value of this product was in deed $3229.99. Once I took the product inside my house, I decided I would do an internet search to see the details. And as we know, this is a SCAM!
Jim H.	Toronto, Canada
11/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis I was filling up the car, when 2 people come over in a red van and they have extra stereo equipment. Mistake at warehouse. They show them to me, I wasn't really interested, already had a good stereo setup. They say its worth over 2 grand, even show me magazines with it listed msrp, but when I ask them to see them outside of the box, they refuse. Then I see the name "GENESIS", which as been defunct since the 80's, I know this since I have a couple of legit 25 year old GENESIS speakers. I caught them on this, no top of the speaker company is going to piggy back on that brand name. Feels good catching scammers in the act. Oh yeah I didn't fall for it.
Anonymous	Tecumseh, Canada
11/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci speakers Man I feel stupid today. I got pulled over in a gas station and thought this was the deal of a lifetime. Some guy in his mid-20's driving a teal van had extra home theatre systems and didn't know the area. I thought I was being clever when all I could offer him was 200$. He kept bugging me for more money but I wouldn't budge, even thought I have much more. I told him that this all seems fishy and he would make a good con artist. Boy was I right because he scammed me for 200$. Shorlty after, I went home to read the reviews thinking this was awesome. All that came up was "White van speaker scam". He was good at lying cz I kept tellin him how sketchy he was and made jokes about calling 911 just to test him. Shortly after I took the speakers to the dump and got rid of them for good.
jon doody	brantford, Canada
11/1/2009 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technology got screwed out of 240 bucks today in front of lyden park mall.the guy in his mid 20's gave the same story about how his boss did not know.he was driving a black escalade.
Andrew	Waterloo, Canada
10/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Walking home, in the rain, having one of the worst days of my life (bombed a mid-term at school). Anyway, they pulled up beside me in a BLUE GMC Safari, and started telling me how they have extra units, blah blah blah. I said "Not interested" and started to walk away, should have kept walking. They sound completely distraught: "Look, our boss only ordered one, we have extras and he's going to keep the extras without cutting us any, we're looking to make pretty much anything here." I told them I wasn't really looking for anything and can't afford anything right now, the most I could afford would be like $600, they wanted $1500. So, they said, fine and said that I should try and just re-sell it then for more cause they would if they had "more time". I feel like such a moron and have absolutely no idea what to do with it... I'm thinking about going to the authorities. They pulled into a gas station and drove through so if there are surveillance cameras it would have definitely caught their faces (and mine) with a license plate number. Anyway, they were really nice and pumped about the whole deal, I guess having the worst day in a long time, I just needed something to salvage the day? And being able to apparently "resell" this piece of equipment seemed like an amazing idea.
Patryk	London Ontario Canada, Canada
10/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: Hyline So me and my friend were ready to go to biking, getting our bikes out of the car, when a white van pulled up beside us in a macs milk parking lot. Two guys told us they worked for hyline and that a bunch of dumb turbinheads at the factory gave them an extra speaker system. They said they were going to meet up with there boss so they wanted to make some quick cash and sell it for dirt cheap because the boss would have taken it back. So my friend eventually bargained them down to 300 and after a walk to the nearest atm he gave the guy 300 dollars. They guy said that he owed him a drink at a tit bar one time and gave my friend his number. He also told him he could get a deal on a tv for him. I was hesitant about this and becaus ei already have a good system i told them no, i didnt want to get involved so that my friend wouldnt regret/get dissapointed with me. So i totally stayed out of the situation. The guys seemed legit and i even got into a conversation about biking with the driver. Out of my doubts i took the liscence plate number down. But when i got home and found there was no company website and ppl were selling this apparent 4250 dollar system from 275 i got a little nervous. Out of curiosity i googled related spams and wikipidia described the exact same thing that happened under white van scam. Anyways i think these guys are mighty crooks and are blessed with good sales tactics. Thanls for listening...Pat
College Kid	Chatham, Canada
10/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci Approached by a man in his mid - late 20s in a white Denali. He said his supplier gave him 2 extra sets of these speakers which he was do deliver just down the highway, MSRP was $3500 on the box, and he had just sold one of them to someone for $1000. He was going to get rid of them before he met up with the rest of his "crew" who didnt know about the "mix up" just so he could make some extra cash. i told him i didnt have money like that so he said he'd give them to me for whatever since he was just gettig rid of them. I had to go to the bank and he insisted on following me and I should have just booked it, but i was sucked in since they seemed legit and he had a magazine and all, and i thought maybe i could make some money off them. I never heard of this scam goin on and he seemed believable, $300, taken for a fool.
Lewis Point	Chilliwack, Canada
10/27/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technolgoy white yukon license plate 630 PHL Bc plates 2008 or above cottonwood mall around 314 tuesday afternoon asked for me to buy systems they had extras of someone a delievery error in their favour they ended up with more items or somehting... I bought one for 400 $
Travis Oberkirsch	Regina, Canada
10/21/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Guy pulled up in a silver hatchback, claiming that he had a home theater system worth $3500, they had apparently stocked him an extra stereo by accident at the factory. I got suckered and dished out $420 dollars, too good to be true, the guy is younger, 20s, flat brimmed hat, talks non-stop, says he's coming to live in Regina and they're opening a new electronics store. Clearly I was led into this one, definitely feel dumb, especially after studying Psychology as my major...wow just wow
glenn Mysko	Ancaster, Canada
10/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST50 Home theater Im the latest sucker on these two guys in a black SUV. They took me for 500 bucks. I got what i deserved, the emotion of a great deal beat out my rational. I have never fell for a "too good to be true" scenario and im 47 years old.Perhaps it was my time. The coincidence is that i have been actively pursuing HT equip since my home system is way out of date. btw these guys are very convincing- well thought out angle stocking errors are easy to hide.
dave	ottawa, Canada
10/12/2009 license plate is BFYX738 chryster grand caravan sport, silver
GREG	ORANGEVILLE, Canada
10/10/2009 Product or Service Involved: Too many (changes all the time) Hi Just to give you the heads up.This scam you are all writing about has been going on for more years than some legit retail operations. I had a stereo store in Mississauga 1990-1994,these guys were selling out of the white vans then.I have been approached many times over the years but I cuold never talk one of these guys into bringing the speakers into my store so I could test (blow the woofer) them. We specialized in building ,repairing speakers. Be careful some of the speakers look good but generally the key components are lightweight (woofers with light magnets,thin or small voice coils), no crossover components (maybe a $.25 capacitor on the tweeter....always go with the old addage (if it's too good to be true.........)Greg
Jon	Mississauga City, Canada
10/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland speakers Two white guys in a van approached me and my family and selling these Sutherland speakers for $200.00. The guy said that his boss accidently gave him another pair of speakers that needs to be delivered to a buyer...but mistakenly gave two speakers. They said if we can give them $200.00 CAD they would give it to us...sutherland speakers worth $2,500.00 CAd as shown in the actual box..and even showed to me his Iphone - showing the true value of these speakers. I am not a believer of Sutherland speakers ..coz I haven't heard of it...hehe.. but I said $50 bucks will do..hahaha..good thing..he did not buy my offer. I rushed on my iphone and searched about this speakers..oh well..and guess what I found out. It is a scam! Thank you my guardian angel for saving us from this assholes! * We were at Mississauga City in Dundas around 4:30 pm today. Take care everyone.
Jason	Elmsdale, Canada
10/1/2009 Product or Service Involved: suthland technology My girlfriend called me this morning said some guy is selling high-end speakers near her store for cheap, because I was sort of looking for an up grade I went to see what he had and everything seemed ok, they even had a magazine to show me that they were featured as top of the line speakers and they were friendly enough just looking for some beer money as this unit was extra they needed just 500 bucks for party money. I told them I was a student and unemplayoed and could only afford $200 and even that would be a credit advance! I also did research to see that if you hook this stuff up it could cause a fire and since these items are knock offs and were not safetied in Canada that insurance wouldn't cover your lost items!! I called the police to give them the license plate incase a cop happens upon them, I know there is nothing you can do but maybe by chance something will happen. Ontario plate white dodge caravan
Dan	Dartmouth , Canada
9/28/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland ST-50 Home theater Dartmouth NS- Picked up my brother-in-law tonight from the gas station he works at. He asked me if I had room in the back seat of my car for a very large box. Not thinking about it, I said yes, but asked why. He told me a man in a van with Ontario licence plates told him there was a shipping error and he had recieved an extra home theater system and wanted to sell it so he could go have drink. He only got $45 out of him though. He thought he was getting a great deal when the retail price was over $3000. I did a search on the internet and found a wikipedia report on white van scams....printed it out and warned him it could cause damage to his other electronics if he used it. He might be out $45 dollars, but its a great lesson to learn at 18 years old, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is....Good thing it was not me, because I would have done the same thing as him, and I am many years older so I guess we both learned something valuable tonight, but what I learned did not cost me a cent.
marc	montreal, Canada
9/26/2009 Product or Service Involved: sautherland tech this guy name Jimmy sold me 3 systems for 1400 in montreal city he asked me if can find 2000 but my bank limit was 1000 and the sucker take my last 400 i have with me i cant believe he got me like beginner this guy is a real professional actor
Richmond Conciso	Montreal, Canada
9/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technologies As I was getting into my car at Fairview Pointe Claire Mall located at highway 40 at St. Jean's, two guys in a van approached me talking about some new sound system they have to deliver to their boss. They were saying they had 2 of these overstock and would get in trouble if they delivered all of them and wanted to get rid of the extras. So they tell me "How much you got on you right now?" I tell them "I don't have any money on me." And yet they end up getting 300$ off me. These guys are very persuasive. They will ask you, "Don't you have bills in your wallet man. This is a great deal. I don't really part with it." Now, I don't know what to do with the damn box.
Maurice	Kitchener, Canada
9/14/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Home Theare System I had just stepped out of the Fairview mall at about 1:30pm when a van drove up mas I attempted to get into my car, when the driver of this van got out and rushed towards me talking real fast about some oversupplied home thetre system and he was quite knowledgeable about its performance. I paid $1,000 based on what the retail price as shown to me by him was. He showed me an advertisement in a glossy, high quality E-Grade Magazine. The item is normally sold for $4,159 and at $1,000 I believe I could resell for $2,000 which would still be a great deal. Reading your site I am now afraid to open the box lest it has something other than what I paid for.
Kyle	Waterloo, Canada
9/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci Well I feel like a fucking idiot. I'm trying to be a sound tech. So when 2 guys approached me outside of my bank, and offered me a $2K DaVinci 6.1 system for really cheap. I should have known something was up. My original suspicion was that they were stolen. So these guys give me they're story about how they are part of a shipping team and they ended up with these extra systems and were just trying to get rid of them or their boss was just gonna take them. I looked at the price listing the had in the magazine, I Cracked it open and looked at one of the smaller speakers. It looked pretty decent. Took a look at the Sub. on the outside... didn't look to bad. I got the guys down to $245. Got it home and then proceeded to examine everything closer. Total Fakes... The logos are wrong, The speaker cones are cheap and crappy. at best this system is worth $150. If it helps, I live in Waterloo. It was @ a bank. Beige SUV with the license plate # "AYMH-093". The guys were both white. They looked like trendy Douche Bags. You know, Chainlink necklace. baggy Cargo shorts, Cap ....Trendy T-shirts...I dunno. The Dark haired guy gets out to show you. He talk a lot.. about their situation and what a great deal this is...ect I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person. But these guys suckered me hard. Prospective Gained.
L Luedee	Montreal, Canada
9/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Hyline HL-512 I was recently asked to check on the value of a home theatre/audio system a friends dad purchased from 2 guys in a black Yukon outside the Montreal Casino. It was a Hyline HL-512 system. 1800 watts. The story is basically the same as most posts above. Just posting this for awareness! I will try to get license plate and post it.
Alan	timmins, Canada
9/10/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland technology Same story hes either in timmins right now or leaving if this helps anyone white van with quebec lisence plate
mike	Belleville, Canada
9/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology My self and 2 of my friends where leaving the Quinte mall when a guy, early twenties approached us in a greyish BMW X5. He claimed that he was working out of toronto and that he got 2 extra sets of speakers. Instead of taking them to his boss, who had kept them the first time this happened...he decided he would sell them and pocket the money himself. He claimed the vehicle he was driving was not his but his bosses and he had to be in Kingston soon to deliver the other speakers. He managed to get my friend to buy a set off him after he showed us a magazine with the speakers in them. I felt like something was wrong but didn't really realize because i hadn't heard of this happening outside of a big city. My friend paid $210 for them and the guy tried to get us to pitch in more money. but me and my other friend refused, he went on to tell my friend who bought them that "if they run into eachother, he's gotta buy him a couple rounds of beer". he had a invoice that he flashed a bunch of times. I asked him a few questions while my friend went to the bank to get the money out, and at that point i kinda realized something was up. I didnt manage to get his plate# and i forget the company he said he worked for but he had like 5-10 boxes in the truck so I am sure he'll be at it again.
Ottawa Man	Ottawa, Kanata, Canada
8/31/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology Same story as others. Got $400 from me. White man with black Jeep Wrangler (open jeep), Licence plate # VWJ 804, Quebec plated. I am searching for him and hoping to find him in the near future.
Ben Had	Edmonton, Canada
8/27/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology Green van, white jittery crack head. Same story as the rest. Got too many need to get rid of the extras. Pretty damn good at it, got $300 out of me. Bastard. I have never felt so sick in my life as realizing what a retard I was for buying this crap. Lesson learned: buy nothing from no one, ever, unless in the actual store. If you ever see the pasty white freckly guy in the green van selling stuff, beat him.
Ripped OFF	London, Canada
8/8/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Technology My brother and I were approached by two guys in their early 20's who were driving a black escalade (License plate: AHHZ 363). One was a bit chubby with dyed blonde hair, other guy was the driver, wore a cap. This happened at Sherwood Forest mall parking outside the beer store. Similar story about how the guys are delivery workers are from Mississauga, and the retailer forgot to take two units out of the truck which they have. They act super excited (well, just the one guy), and even when you try and say 'no', they are persistent. My brother said 'no', and advised I didn't need such speakers. I should've listened, but I was convinced it was such a great deal. I.e. my greed took over. I was noticing all the wrong signs. They showed me a magazine (Why would they have a magazine with the speakers?). They opened the box for me to show the speakers (the bubble wrap was popped, that should've been a clue.) I said I wouldn't take them after making a $500 offer, but they were adamant and I still caved and dished out $400 for the supposed $2500 garbage after I withdrew from ATM. I got home. Googled the speakers, found nothing but kijiji adverts to sell the systems, brand new. Why would people all be selling brand new systems? Suspicious. Eventually I was lead to a speaker scam page. I tested the one speaker, and it worked fine. I'm going to sell the system to a pawn shop or something to get a little bit of my money back. This is the first time I hear of such a scam, and I'll never fall for it again. $400 lesson :(
devin jordan	whitby, Canada
7/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: AST X2-1500 ya know, I've noticed the same thing with all the people that were in my area...we all got the AST X2-1500 speakers and really not many people had anything bad to say about them...I am pretty experienced with speakers and sound and I picked them up for $200 and I will tell you...they were worth the $200 and then some! I sympathize for the people that got the raw deals though. These things kick, and dont distort until an unbearably high volume...you just need a decent receiver to access the full effect
Cambridge Scam	Cambridge, Canada
7/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci Home Theatre Damn, the are all in Cambridge Ontario taking small cities Same thing happened to me..i got flagged i thought something was wrong and they needed directions, they almost crashed into me because i was driving around cambridge mall parking lot looking for a parking space and when i took a right turn i didn't really see the van that was going straight i almost smashed into them. I slammed my brakes hard the van was honking madly of which i thought i did something wrong! Anyway i drove away at the other end of the mall looking for another parking space the van followed me and started honking at me again and i don't know what he was yelling i thought he was gonna kill me but he was yelling something about pulling over i got something to ask you, i thought he was gonna ask me for directions so i did.. turns out he was selling speakers.. i didn't need them and i almost got away from him but then he showed me the "high price of 3,999" after i pulled over and how much i wanted to offer, he started off with me buying it for 800 i refused then he asked me 700? i refused i said i don't want any he said 500 is my final answer to the bargain on this great deal. He was mad hyper and yes there was something very unusual about them and i refused many times but then he started to threat me that's when i had no choice i thought there were gonna follow me around i didn't know what else to do.The box did look legit and i thought maybe if i did buy it they'd leave me alone so they went even lower 400 on the home theatre set i told them i only have 70 dollars because that's all i had. They told me how much i would be able to take out... i told them no more then 300, they agreed and asked if i could go to a bank.. i knew this was not right but i thought if i just bought the damn thing they'd leave me alone. So i did go to a bank they put the thing in my car the guy wanted to get into my car i was like what the ** are you doing? he told me to follow the van because the other guy stayed pretty quiet didn't talk much.. he said he didn't trust me that i'd drive away so the bank was close by anyway right beside tim hortons so i had no choice but to let him in we drove to the bank the van followed me and i went in the bank i took out 230 plus the 70 i had and got out.. the guy looked mad at me saying how much of a great deal i made and that i owed him beer.. <-- i thought i'd run into him again so i was like i hope not, handed him the money and he took off, i headed home cuz i got chills and looked at the thing.. never heard of it till i googled it and here i am, Now i want my money back plz let this be a joke?? I want my money back :( what else can i do. I did look at the license plate but i forgot it cuz i couldn't write it down or no telling what they can do to me all i know is it's a dark blue mini van the seats were taken off they had around 10 boxes of speakers in the back so i did read alot of info and stories but what choices i have? According to the stories police can't do shit except charge them with something they won't care about and get away they won't do anything else so oh my god what the **
ture gustafson	montreal, Canada
7/28/2009 Product or Service Involved: bergmann 6.1 speakers on craiglist and KIJIJI seeing a lot of bergmann, sutherland, divinci speaker scams. it would be nice to see kijiji and CL filter this crap,
Cale Bradbury	Guelph, Canada
7/18/2009 Product or Service Involved: None So this happened to me a few weeks ago and I thought that it was just a random happening. It was the generic white van speaker scam (although the van was blue) the only odd thing was that the guy offered the speakers for free saying someone may as well benifit from the mistake of his boss and he already has a set. I'm wondering if you have any info about this type of scam (was it even) was it an attempt at abduction or askign me for my wallet etc. any info would be a great help this has been driving me crazy.
Jay	Buck lake, Canada
7/18/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci idf-50 Well i didnt fall for the scam but almost did, was driving around in bucklake after the stampede and we saw a garage sale, so we pulled up got out and the first thing i saw was the system, i looked at it and a young guy comes up to me and i asked him how much, he told me he needs $500 for it, i just looked at him and i told him all i really have is $20 bucks on me, so he told me i could go to a bank machine and pull out some more cash, i told him the only bank i deal with is my own bank, no one elses. my woman picks out other items she want witch came to $10, so all i had was $10 left, i jokingly told him that i can only offer him the $10 that i have left,.............HE ACTUALLY TOOK THE OFFER WOW! So i took him for a ride LOL. I did have alot of cash on myself, but was not willing to pay $500 for it, System was brand new in box never opened. NICE TRY!!!!!! And it does actually sound decent for a $10 system. LOL....
joska	None, Canada
7/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: sutherland technology speaker (home theater)
General	North York, Canada
7/15/2009 Product or Service Involved: None Schuler: What would the police charge them with? There is no law that says you cannot take advantage of stupid people. They have speakers, you had money, you gave money to them, they gave you speakers. I don't see what law they broke. If you think you ripped you off...YES...they did - but what are the police going to do? Charge them with not having a PST license?
Schuyler	Hamilton, Canada
7/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-1420 Was walking home when a guy pulled up to me asking if I needed a sound system. They went through the whole process of convincing me, and I was pretty good at fending one of them off the first time and walking away until the DRIVER comes up and starts pulling his moves on me. My guess now is that the first guy was the "trainee" and the driver was the "pro." Two white men in their early 20s, I saw one of them wearing Sean Jean clothing. License plate #98T067. Had me convinced that I could spare $300 out of my absolutely fixed income of ~$1000/month (I'm a student). Now I'm short of money to spend on food for the entire month. At most I'd be annoyed that this happened to me if I had a REAL income but to do this to students who barely scrape by month-to-month is horrible. I called the cops and turns out the plate number I got was good - associated with a White GMC Yukon, which is exactly the truck they were in. The truck didn't look like a rental either, it had Bose speakers and a custom installed Clarion deck so I might be lucky enough to nab these guys. So an hour of my life was wasted on them convincing me the product was good, and $300 worth of food was wasted on crappy speakers. Anyone wanna take me out to lunch or dinner so we can destroy the speakers together?
Tom	Toronto, Canada
7/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: Hyline Was driving in north Toronto (near York University) today when a black Escalade pulled up beside me asking if I wanted a cheap home entertainment system. I was curious and had some time, so I pulled over and was shown 3 Hyline systems in the back. There were 2 guys, 1 with a hat, the other bald. Went into their routine of miraculously receiving a free high-end system that they needed to get rid of b/c they didn't want their boss to get it. I was close to falling for it, but my BS meter was going crazy so i made them follow me to the bank thinking i was going to pay them. Went inside and googled the Hyline brand and confirmed my suspicions. Made them wait a good 15 mins and then went outside to tell them that the deal was off. Was good seeing the look of disappointment on their faces.
dumbass	Edmonton, Canada
6/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: Sutherland Tech ST-90 I got scamed today by a couple of guys in a grey Chevy Tahoe at the Shell on Ellerslie RD. Not a big deal as i now have a decent radio for my shop. They have a pretty good story about extra units on a shipment, so beware of these idots.I have been approached lots by people selling other types of merchandise and figured it out before i bought, but these guys were smooth. Payback is a bitch and if i ever see them again they better beware of my white snipe in the head scam!!!!
bob	Cambridge, Canada
6/10/2009 Just came out of a convenience store and this black suv Porsche cayenne, plates bdxl 034, 2 guys. Asked me to buy some speakers. Told them I knew about their scam, they said its not a scam and I gave they a few words and they took off.
Steve	Toronto, Canada
6/8/2009 Product or Service Involved: MTS speakers Hi, Just got scammed by these guys. I feel like an idiot. I really thought they were stolen, and felt bad for buying them. Never thought I'd be the scammed one. I gave 300 dollars for these things. And now I'm scared to plug them into my amplifier. Bought them on Thursday on Alexander Street, close to College and Yonge in downtown Toronto. Guys name was Chris, showed me an OHIP card. He looked Native, but said he was Asian. He was driving a black SUV. SAME scam as everyone else is falling for. I have to take responsibility, though. I got scammed. And all my alarm bells were going off in my head. I knew it wasn't smart or a good thing to do. Lesson Learned!!!! Thank you speakermen for teaching me a good lesson for 300 bucks.
Bob	Kitchener, Canada
6/7/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Well, I was at a Sunoco yesterday, around 1pm on homerwatson near the college. Same routine, dumb I fell for it, should've known. I see this site after I get scammed. The sellers, Justin and Oliver in a blue GMC safari. Didn't get their plates as I thought I was getting a deal. I kick myself now. Would love to get into contact with the sellers. Email me at qqq17@hotmail.com if you have any info.
Tyler Clark	Vernon, Canada
6/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis IM4 2 guys, said to be from from langley in a silver caravan doing the white van speaker scam, exactly following the desciption.
Janet Smith	Winnipeg, Canada
6/1/2009 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinci sound I was filling up w/ gas, when 2 men pulled up in brown, older model Dodge Caravan. They told me they were supposed to deliver these sound systems, but the warehouse gave them several more systems than they had deliveries, and that they didn't like their boss enough to return them. I declined their offer at first, but they persisted and I offered them $300. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Haven't set them up yet, but after reading all these reports, I wonder if it's worth the effort.
kill me	None, Canada
5/26/2009 qwack qwack qwack qwack qwack qwack qwack only made 800 bucks today better hunting tomorrow DUCKS!!
John Michael	Saint-Apollinaire, Canada
5/21/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci DA-6.1 PRO Series III I was scammed today, two scumbags in a silver SUV pulled over to talk to me while I was filling my car of gas, they gave my the usual speech that they were audio equipment delivery peoples, that they had extra speakers and that they didn't want to lose money by returning them to the warehouse. I bought one set for 200$, I tought it was a good deal since the price on the box was 1999$. Well this scam seem to be running for a long time now, I wanted to warn peoples of the Quebec City area that those scammers are on the loose in the neighborhood.
repus	montreal, Canada
5/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci They were great I paid 500 for a set and I'm satisfied. What I wouldve gotten at the store for 500 would have just been garbage compared to what I got.
Bruce	montreal, Canada
5/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci no divinci speakers are worth 500$ or sound anywhere near 500$ speakers, they are worth no more than 50$ for the pair - these comments are left by the scammers!
Bruce Twoskidoos	Toronto, Canada
5/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Acoustic Studio Monitor 3312 I almost bought these Acoustic Studio Monitor 3312's for $200. Until I used them. Was at a party and hooked up a Yorkville amp to these speakers. They sounded alright at first, but then they just distorted. I thought it was my amp until I tried other speakers that worked fine. The person who owned the speakers said he got them out of the back of a white van for $500 for the pair. I'm not sure of the location, Toronto, or Kitchener maybe.
Gary	Edmonton, Canada
5/13/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci idf-40 got ripped for 200$, bastards used all the selling techniques, Green Van, might have been rental but i didnt look at the plates. Is this thing a fire hazard, cuz the power cord is the thin cheap plastic cord.. Two guys in in mid 20's, one brown leb with short hair, one white tanned guy with a fohawk haircut.
Rick Roberts	Toronto, Canada
5/8/2009 Bill: Thank you for your kind words and the knowledge that people are reading my previous postings. I have attached a new lising -adding HYLINE to the list of the POS items. And I too have very much enjoyed pissing off the scemmers by breaking up a few sales....they are all cowards and lowlifes... The following is a list of SOME of the "White Van Speaker Scam" brands being sold all over the world by low life rip off artists. Please keep in mind it is not just garbage speakers - but garbage electronics that are being marketed as well. These items have NO warranty - are NOT CSA or CUL approved and have been linked to at least one house fire. They are not affiliated with ANY of the major brands. All the websites / flyers / laminated sheets and magazine "reviews" are ALL FAKE. "White Van" Speaker Scam product lines: Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response (not to be confused with the companies: Acoustic Research, Acoustic Image, Acoustic Lab Technology) Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV5.1 THX DiVinci Denmark (not to be confused with Denon) Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Dogg Digital Dynalab (not to be confused with Dynamat) Epiphany Audio speakers Elite EA 608 (and any other �series�) Elite Audio (not to be confused with Yorkville's Elite line of speakers) Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Grafdale (not to be confused with Wharfdale) Hauffman Hyline Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio Kirsch X3 (not to be confused with Klipsch) Linear Phase studio monitors (not to be confused with Phase Linear) Millenium Millenium MTS 2208 Omni Audio PSD (2.8) (not to be confused with PSB.) PTS (Precision Transducer Systems) Palermo Palermo VA 6.1 Paradyme (not to be confused with Paradigm) Pro Audio Pro Dynamics Proline Acoustic Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers Samurai 518 Skyline AD-900SL Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series" Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) Theater Logic Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research 2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR5160 Theater Research TR6000 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research 8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs Manufacturers of these garbage speakers: � Audio Wood Products � Century Distributors PTY LTD � Dynalab � Global Audio Network � JAM Entertainment/JAM Enterprises, now known as Kelfi Distributors � Millennium Speakers � Omni Audio or Omni Audio Products � Orca Distributors � Republic Distributors, Inc. (parent of Omni and Dynalab) or Republic Distributors Of Canada or Republic Distribution GmbH � Sound Illusion Production
Joel	Toronto, Canada
5/8/2009 I get these guys stopping and asking me to buy their crappy speakers all the time, so I usually just brush them off. This time it was a blue GMC Safari plate #APKT 058. The guy was a white male medium build, maybe 5'10". He got another guy suckered in as I drove away. This time he was alone. I've actually been approached by these guys right in the Future Shop parking lot before right while I was talking to the Future Shop installer at the back.
bill	Bradford, Canada
5/8/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci I am glad this site exist so i can vent a little and read other`s venting..it`s very therapuatic... I got ripped off $240 today...and in Bradford of all places!! i guess they're moving out of the city gutters and into the muddy farms, concrete plazas, and suburban sprawl of the 905 North. Two twenty-something white dudes, both semingly nice and regular blue collar factory/ delivery men. I screwed up big...such a sucker...just a small town gull-A-bull. Main talker called himself Oliver from Guelph, had a baseball cap, blonde hair, wide blue eyes, and a bird nose. Douche bag friend had black hair, wasnt shaven, brown eyes, and baseball cap and adidas and said he was from burlington. Drove a white van/ escalade type truck. Didnt get plates cuz i'm an idiot. They looked like they lived in their parents basement and were closet homsexuals judging by the commradory of their scammer partnership. Although masked by false enthusiasm, they seemed very lonely and pathetic in retrospect. Impotence is very suspect, perhaps compensating for impotence by being scammers and robbing and thieving. Most scammers probably suffer from such inadequecies. A very sad state of affairs indeed. Same story, too. Flag me down randomly as i came out a plaza, offer an oppurtunity for a good deal, explain mess up in shipping order, have extra speakers, want to get rid of them before they go to the boss, have no place to put them for now since they are out of town, are in a rush to sell, have legit 'looking' invoice and magazine with prices, properly boxed with prices on the side, said had just sold one for $1200, said it was regular $2500, and then after plenty of haggling over prices I stupidly thought I got a deal from $1000 to 800 to 500 to $300 and then to $200...and then i was so nice and dumb that i said 'you know what, here's another $40 for the deal, man'...damn jokes is what it is! so dumb man! Dumb dumb-dumb-dumb dummmmbbbb....!!!! After i found out i pucnhed my head twenty times while laughing because it was so angering yet funny. After pucnhing, there was only laughter. What else can you do--call the cops! ha! then i wake up! In bradford, cops are too concerned aboput speeding in a 40 residential and stop and rolls at stop signs...that and getting paid absurd amount of money for a job that requires hardly any training or education to get, and doesn't require any actual results when supposedly fighting crime. The crfime rate could continue to rise and the cops will get paid no difference, but if a business or government is failing those responsible for its failure are fired or not relected. THe little piggies sleep in my little sleep town counting little piggies. Did i also mention i initally drove away at first, went home and ate quikly, and then went around trying to find them with my girlfriend because i felt as though i was missing out on an oppurtunity...i own lots of vinyl and cds and needed speakers, but i was ignorant about the brand name ( i didnt even check the web when i was home because there is a famous swiss brand called Da Vinci that makes high quality sound equipment.). Even worse, my girlfriend warned me, lent me some cash to buy them until i got paid, witnessed me getting played, and after I had to sadly stomach the revelation of this scam. I have read like ten other comments from girlfriends or wives moaning about their significant others' gullable dismay, which I thought was both funny and sad how dumb guys really can be. Us men need to listen more to women intuition and less to our desires--in this instantce, desire for amzing and possibly stolen goods for a low price, and karma bites back. After reading all the stories about being scammed--mostly divinci and the same con story and set-up--I dont feel quite so stupid. I'm just glad I didnt pay more than i did, and that i'm not the only one ruined. In this economy, wishful thinking can blind one's judgement--when something is too good to be true it's probably not...but when times are so bad and something too good to be true comes along YOU want it to be true and unfortuanately get swindled. When you have nothing you want something, and when you have something you just want to keep and maintain what you have. This was like the first 'gift' to myself in like two years--paying off school debt, car, and just trying to get by in life and be nice to people. Then something like this happens and tests my whole outlokk of humanity...but this site, it's allowed my optimistic and realistic view to remain. Ive learned my lesson, and i wont be one of those assholes that try to resell the scam back to another. If the scammers can stick together in spite of all their pathetic lowly ethical center, surely us scamedees can stick together and not make things worse for someone else. P.S. kudos to Rick Roberts for holding it down and representing and protecting the scammers, wish i had of read his pieces earlier (dont mock my english though), and shout out to ogtv who actually had the great oppurtunity to beat down one of those dirty lying mutha F's. Anthony Hall is a loser and supports the fact his dad is a scammer..implying he's just a working man with a job when really he should feel so pathetic that his father's loser blood is in him too, and that being a scammer has to be one of the lowest things a person can do after pedophilia, nazism, murder, and rape. The only difference is that only scammers and pedophiles will be raped in prison because they are so pathetic and disliked by other 'real' hardcore criminals. Even drug dealers and prostitutes sell a product at an accepted market value and the actual drug as advertised with mutual consent of risks and benefits of transaction! Scammers are as demented and low as pedder asses..and anthony hall probably only stuck up for his pathetic little daddy because his dad is giving him the poop chute treament every night after coming home from a l;ong day of raping people's wallets and trust...and both smiling away in their dirty little scammer pedder ass lifestyle. Same goes for tyrome and Al padrino who's attempt to threaten Rick roberts is almost as pathetic and uneducated as his scamming. Remember, for all you scammers out htere it is our ignorance and desperation and NOT your ability and intelligence that sways us...you all do the same old bit with the same old shit, and we fall for it without knowing until after the fact--knowing something is up at the time but not caring because of our ignorance and desperation to get a deal in a society with no breaks, no deals, no once and a life time things--the same reason why people gamble all their money away humping the north american dream, and lottery tickets week after week of losing. It`s human to be duped, but not human to dupe others.
bill	Burnaby and vancouver area, Canada
5/7/2009 Product or Service Involved: davinci anything The guy pulling the rip-off in the Burnaby and surrounding area claims, he has come up from washington State with an order for 3 or more {shit} stereos,and gives a sob story in a mall, or near a stereo outlet, claiming a mis-order, and he can't take these stereo's back so he is dumping them at a dfiscount.The MSRP of $3499 is total crap.The POS, my friend bought is a hunk of junk 5.1 surround sound as I have stated before .It can't handle 5.1 as there is no-decoder built in, and the cheap speakers are hard to hook up, and sound like crap.. WATCH FOR A GUY WITH US LICENSE PLATES, roaming the lower mainland. I wonder if the guy is from the US, and bringing this junk into Canada, or cross'e the border, and works for a Canadian scam warehose, that peddles this total garbage. Fire hazerd, if you ask me, cause of the tubes, in the front of the unit..Don't know if the actually work, or just glow and generate heat. If this guy is American, and working for a Canadian scam operation, the whole thing can be shut down.It might be legal to peddle this crap from your van, if you have a permit, but not to work in Canada with-out a green card, or residency status.,Anyone see's a US license plate jot it down and phone the police..LETS SHUT THIS SCAM, DOWN AND SEND THE CROOKS TO JAIL.
Very Rippedoff	Saint John, Canada
5/7/2009 Product or Service Involved: Davinci Fredericton and Saint John NB. White Hummer, Quebec plate FEH 8836 Followed these guys for 2 hours and broke up 2 sales. They are very unhappy with me. I know a person that got ripped for 1000 for 2 boxes from crooks doing this. Beware of this plate 2 French guys, no logo's
Alex Befus	Abbotsford, Canada
5/7/2009 Product or Service Involved: Di-Vinci idf-40 Ya, I fell for it. Paid 200, but I got the license plate - 357-NGK - Don't know if thats of any use though.
Amber	Guelph, Canada
5/6/2009 Product or Service Involved: Hyline Audio (USA) Patrick (who has been posted about on here doing the same scam in nearby Milton, Ontario) approached me in the parking lot of the Ontario Veterinary College at the University of Guelph, driving a black Cadillac SUV with Ontario license plates. He gave me the same story about having an overshipped home audio system (2 boxes, brand name Hyline Audio, model HL-612, MSRP 8935080902918 listed at $4,259 on the box) and needing to meet his boss soon but him not wanting to let his boss take advantage of the overshipment. He showed me a receipt from HTC or HDC (or something like that) Audio where he claimed to work for the 3 demos he already did today, and his cell phone voicemail message says he works at the same place (cell phone # 647-654-3255). I called his phone and of course he doesn't answer. I wish I had gotten his license plate number... Patrick is a white male, about 5'10" and a bit heavy-set, with crew-cut blondish hair and blue eyes, who looks to be in his mid-30's.
bill	Vancouver BC, Canada
5/6/2009 Product or Service Involved: Davinci 5.1 home theatre in a box I have already warned others about these CROOKS, but be warned of this. I tried to access a sight on Google. that appeared to be some kind of a Home webpage. or something from the company that builds this garbage stereo stuff, then preys on innocent buyers, looking for a deal..but..When I tried to access their info site, a major Virus alert came up..Trojans, and adware, spyware, and other nasty stuff came up. My computer alerted me with in seconds that a "DANGEROUS" virus, is trying to access my computer, and it needs to be dealt with immediately. I have top of the line, great, virus protection, but when my computer stops everything, and sends a serious warning, you know these cock-roach's, are up to no good..bad enough to steal your $$$ on this disgusting RIP-OFF, attacking your computer, has me riled, and I hope the FBI are too, when they get my message.
Adam Tea	internet town, Canada
5/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: proline acoustics pa 1200 they're on kijiji now. email from a guy who's name is apparently - shane miller; email addr is - vib3s@hotmail.com asking $200 obo - i offered $120, he took... then i looked up this brand on google and found this site... after reading this site, I emailed him back counter offering him $10 for the pair. waiting for a response :) to those who have been scammed.. enjoy the email address!
bill	None, Canada
5/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: davinci 5.1 home theater in a box My neighbor was all happy he bought a Davinci 5.1 surround home theatre, with a stamped on the box price tag of $3,499. My neighbor, who bought this peice of plastic junk, {which features a series of 3 tubes in a window display, at the front of the unit} might be a deal, while overhearing a conversation at a mall about these stereo's, and his friend paid $800 earlier, and that is why my neighbor,wanted one. My neighbor was offered the same POS, for $500, after refusing the $800 his friend, paid for it. { the old barter down} When I offered to help him hook it up, as soon as it came out of the box I realized he had been scammed.{ I thought so anyway,but didn't want to upset him beofre I knew for sure} This stereo, was labeled 2000 watts total capacity, but the speakers said 200 W max. Plastic unit, with a front knob so cheap it was low grade plastic..The speaker's {4} were plastic garbage and the center channel a hunk of plastic junk. The remote was so flimsy and feeble, at the first drop, this remote would be toast. In need of banana plugs to properly plug the speaker wire in { B-plugs not supplied}. The cable wire {speakers wire, was cheap copper cable, labeled as silver core, normally expensive cable, but this garbage was clearly mis-labeled intentionally. The included interconnects to hook up a DVD or Compact disk player was marked $159 US, on the outside of the package..Clearly crap imterconnects, that claim are 24 K gold plated..Painted maybe..CHEAP $5 INTERCONNECTS AT BEST, with a clear factory stamp, claiming $159 dollars.This stereo in MHO is worth no more than $120-$150, retail. I have a $1000 tube amp, and it is sweet..This is total shit. The company is clearly involved in this scam, by stamping the price tags on their products, which are part of the Cardboard containers, and not sticker placed. AVOID THESE CROOKS. Where possible, jot down the license number of their vehicle, and call the cops.
Randy smith	kitchener, Canada
5/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci two guys pulled up in a white denali seemed pushy and rush to sell me a full surround sound pseker system worth 8,000 CAD and they walked off with 1200 and my nikon camera, caought on video at my bank.
Cory B	Edmonton, Canada
5/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci There's two of these assholes running around millwoods doing this crap targeting the town center parking lot. They drive a white grand caravan and are incredibly pushy, if anyone sees them do me a big favor and just shoot em. They almost got 600 bucks out of me, resisted temptation though.
Calice	Petit Rocher, Canada
4/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: G -6.1 Genesis Media Lab Same story, guy from quebec had two extra system, was worth 2000.00 was delivering the rest at BRICK'S in Bathurst, beleived the f****n guy, we where at a fish shop in Petit Rocher. He started at 400.00,we bought for 200.00,he followed us to our bank Started to install didn't work, we fell stupid of course when on the net to find information instead we found this big happy family. We are now the proud owners of a set of 5 worthless speakers. And we are en Calice!!!
Paul Crane	None, Canada
4/22/2009 Product or Service Involved: DIVINCI Two guys approached me in the Falls. Same story as the rest except I didn't fall for it. Please send me any licence plate numbers if you have any. Thank you. paul_crane2002@yahoo.com P. C.
devon	Toronto, Canada
4/22/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci My bro is entertaining two of them right now at the parking lot at Home Depot on Castlefield. Called me to post now.
Brandon	Edmonton, Canada
4/21/2009 Product or Service Involved: Orin Ross OR6050 Yeah you know the speal, white minivan. Two guys saying they have some for sale. Originally asking $800. Only got $150 out of me. Still sucks though...
Tim	Fort Erie, Canada
4/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Di vincy A friend and I sitting in the parking lot on a break from work and 2 guy's in a New black SUV pull up with a pitch extra suround sound loaded need to sell MSRP $3600 blah blah blah....I'm a debt collector and can smell bullshit a mile away and these 2 I could smell from home. In the end the first pitch came from a Russian sounding guy who was sniffing like he just did a bump, did the magazine thing the whole nine yards wanted $800 I laughed , he then said look we need to dump these and would like to go to the titty bar and have some beer's (so do I) asked me to make an offer, I offer $200 keep in mind im never giving them a dime just wanted to waste their time, guy then say's NO! can't do it shakes my hand gets back in the truck starts to drive away....then the break lights come on and a 2nd guy jumps out (this guy looks like he has droped a fist full of perks, his eyes are like 2 piss holes in the snow say's this guys beeing a cheep prick ask's if I can strech it to $300...I say no and he say's it's to bad we can't take $200 and say's have a great day guy's and they drive off. I say to my friend they will be back in 30 mins, and within 30 mins they pull back in but we had already back to work. But in the end the reason for the post is they are now in Canada!!!!
SD	Fort Erie, Canada
4/16/2009 I was at No Frills parking lot when two guys in a late model, black, Japanese SUV pulled up. Skinny guy driving, the other one selling. Passenger yelled out if I wanted to buy some speakers. Lucky for me, I knew about the scam prior to this so though it would be interesting to see what would come of it. They gave me the usual they had 3 systems left and their boss didn't know about it so they want to sell them for cheap. He even showed me a phony invoice. I asked to see them, they guy popped the trunk and there were 3 or 4 boxes in there. I don't recall the exact brand of the units as I wasn't really interested in them but rather was playing the game. They were some 3 letter units. IVG or something similar. After looking in the trunk I told them to get the hell out of these because I knew what was going on. As they were leaving I wrote down their plate number and stopped by the local police station to give them the info. Hopefully they catch these bastards.
Jon	Windsor, Canada
4/15/2009 Product or Service Involved: Davinci shit I got conned a while back. But im back again because i got some info. Lucky for all you guys, I have uncovered the Some info on one of Ontario's local scam artist. This Guy is a dumbass and doesnt know how to protect his identity and should be more careful who he adds on facebook. SO... Here we Go. (Information removed pending investigation.) Have Fun. <3.
Spinkicks	Woodbridge Ont, Canada
4/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: RDX DX9 Two guys...one plump and one skinny scrawny looking dude with a gold chain around his neck wearing a baseball cap pulled up to me in BEST BUY parking lot asking me if I was interested in a home theatre I said no not interested but they kept at me to have a look so I did(driving a black suv--maybe an Escalade) ...still said no way and to ask someone else...they insisted and showed me some phony brochure with an msrp of 3299.99 so he said make me an offer I said no...he says...how about 1000 can u do that I still said no way..thinking at this point its a scam...but for some reason I ended up thinking I could probably make money selling it on ebay if I could get it for less..they showed me some phony receipt..telling me they had one extra blah blah..I caved and ended up with a piece of shit system for 500.00 dollars...I can't believe I fell for this crap!!IF YOU CHECKOUT THE WEBSITE FOR THE PRODUCT ITS PHONY TOO!!now I'm on a mission to find these assoles..if ur approached tell them to f**off and die
sally	moncton , Canada
4/10/2009 Product or Service Involved: speaker scam WELL MY HUSBAND WAS SCAMED TODAY AT THE IRVING GAS STATION ON ST. GEORGE IN MONCTON.CHECKED IT OUT ON THE NET AND FOUND OUT ALL THIS INFORMATION.WE DECIDED TO GO FIND THEM. GOT THEM AT CHRYSTAL PALACE IN DIEPPE.APPROACHED THE VAN, MY HUSBAND WANTED HIS MONEY BACK!!!! GUY ROLLED UP HIS WINDOW SO QUICK. BUDDY WAS LUCKY HUSBANDS FIST DIDNT BREAK THE WINDOW,HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED THROUGH. THEY TOOK OFF AND US RIGHT BEHIND THEM,JUST AS A COP CAR CAME FLYING TOWARDS US.WE FOLLOWED 3 COP CARS ON TO THE HIGHWAY WHERE THEY FINALLY STOPPED. LONG STOREY SHORT, NOT A THING WE CAN DO ABOUT GETTING OUR $200 BACK.THEY WILL BE FINED FOR UP TO $1000 THE COP TOLD US.THERE WAS ANOTHER GUY THAT GOT SCAMMED AT IRVING AT THE SAME TIME.I HOPE I HEAR YOUR STOREY TOO. AT LEAST THESE GUYS WONT BE BACK IN MONCTON OR DIEPPE.BE CAREFUL AND REMEMBER,ANYTHING THATS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE USUALLY IS.
P	Woodstock, Canada
4/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Stereo Specs: 1800 Watts Total System Power Built-in 5.1 Receiver/Pre-Amp/Processor/Tuner 300 Watts/Channele/8 Ohms 12" 550W High-Current Low-Mass Subwoofer Satellite/Center (250 Watts x 5 =1250W) High-Energy lynxis precision Crossover Digital Hi-Fi Audio/Video In/Outputs Silver and Platinum Heat Resistant Wiring Direct Laser Tech. Full Function Remote Gold Capped High-End A/V Cables and Wiring 14.2"(H) X 44.3"(W) X 13.4" ( D ) 71.2 Lbs ( Weight ) http://www.divincisound.com/tower2.htm# Seen around and at: 230 truck stop off 401 thats where i got scammed Home Hardware ( Springbank St ) Gallery Cinemas ( Perry St ) Wal mart parking lot White Van on most occasions. White male mid 30's says same ol story about the speakers from toronto manufacture going to clubs and etc over shipped and he dosent want his rich ass boss to make the money so how low will you go??? 300 bucks for the DiVinci system.
Jeff	Edmonton, Canada
4/4/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Silver Home Theatre Speakers I was walking into a hotel across the street of a Canadian Tire near the municipal airport when a guy drives up, rolling down his window he tells me he's got two home theatre speaker systems "he's giving away." I was curious. The guy was clean cut, in his 30s and looked legit to me. But he was very hyped up. I guess they want to grab you with the urgency to take advantage of this incredible opportunity. He parked and opened the hatch of his brand new looking pewter coloured van, possibly a Yukon SUV I realize now was likely a rental. Anyway, he told me that his company was shipped two extra DiVinci "Silver" systems by mistake, which he discovered after completing his deliveries. He whipped out official looking yellow shipping paperwork. When I said I'd never heard of DiVinci he grabbed a magazine showing a $3,500 price. He'd take $500-600 for his. I said he should ship them back to the supplier (I'm a born-again Christian and aim to live out my faith). He said there's no way he could that; that it would cost a fortune. I balked at that suggsetion and said he needed to do the right thing. He could see I was a straight arrow and it was fruitless trying to sell them to me -- for any price. I never considered it was a scam. I went online today to contact the manufacturer to tell them their distributor in Edmonton was given two extra systems and was hawking them on the street. I discovered it's actually a scam. You know what they say about honesty... it saved me. God's word is true: you reap what you sew.
Al	Edmonton, Canada
4/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: OlinRoss Edmonton west end at Safeway parking lot on 149 st & Stony Plain road. A guy and girl, in mid-late 20's or early 30's in a grey Chev window van give me the same story about the shop loaded extra surround sound systems in the van in the Calgary shop. They had to rid them for whatever they can get because the boss is kind of a jerk. If they take them back, they get nothing. Had the color brochure, billing from the company etc. retail is $3300.00 but can give you great deal. I can even through in a second unit for 1/2 the price. $500 for one or two for $750. These guys and girls and in Canada as well. I heard of another person being asked in the Walmart parking lot in the west end last week as well.
Alexandre Porry	hawkesbury, Canada
4/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: genesis G-6.1 I was driving back to montreal from my parents cottage and stopped at the Mackewen gas station just passed Hawkesbury.these two guys in the ''famous white van'' came and spoke to me about the 2000$ home theater sound system!(nothing new here) they told me they had a bunch of boxes to return to the compagny and that they could,instead, sell it to me for a good price. they had about 7 or 8 of these boxes in the van already. so we discussed about the speakers and max output power. i was already looking for an amplifier for my car and they said the big dual woofer tower had one inside,that i just had to plug the wires and bingo! i bought one(1) box for 300$ cash with the fake papers and waranty. so this happened this morning...now my question is,what can i do???what are my options for this big scam? theres no amp in the tower and,indeed,the speakers sucks! i can't even make it work for my ps3 thus there aren't no campatible wires... help me!
Randy	Nanaimo, Canada
4/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DA 6.1 PRO-SERIES My friend pulled his car over by some guy who he said waved him down in a parking lot... The Guy was in a Honda C-RV license plate "340 BRM" wearing a toque, not clean shaven, about 6 feet tall and said he was from Vancouver staying in a "holiday inn" and that there was an extra divinci speaker package that was needed to be sold before he got back to the warehouse... These looked worth $2000. He started with $800 then me and my friend bargained him down to $500 then realized he only had $230 so I went to the bank which was conveniently located within feet from where this happened... BASTARD But anyway he went off on how good of a speaker system this was. Me being a music producer thought why the hell not... looked legit, in the box, taped, strapped up, and told us he could install it in our house if we needed. showed us his "receipts" and we got him down to $330 and I wrote his plates down secretly as I was going to the bank... but apparently the cops cant do anything really about this which is pathetic. so as we leave he says "you guys got any joints or anything worth extra" and we said "no" then he said "okay well next time you see me you owe me beers" Me being 17 and my friend being 18 thought we were gonna be made in the shade.. we were planning on flipping them to make extra cash. As we went to the gas station to fill up we saw our buddy who worked there and we told him the story. He then told us his friend had the same thing happen to him the other day but for $180 opened them up and they sounded horrible so he smashed them. So we then rushed to a computer and as soon as we typed anything in on Google is was all scam scam scam... we are now pissed and have not opened the box because we were originally planning on just selling them to some other bloke. But Ive done some thought and I'm definitely not a person who falls for this type of thing and now think that as easy it would be to sell it to some rich guy at a mall... what good does that do but make me another scam artist. So I will now take this as a lesson and learn from my greed and losing my whole paycheck because I barely had any shifts due to cuts at work... Maybe it will be better in the long run if I make a valuable choice and things will turn out right for making this world a better place! Please do the same... I feel extremely embarrassed for these foolish acts :(
Tyrome	Calgary, Canada
4/1/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci My favorite one ta sell! Yo, what's up? Divinci's the shit! I've been sellin' it for years! Come on, make sure to tell all your friends and family ta buy from us! You wouldn't even understand if you knew how many of us there are doing this shit! It happens all over the world, I've even got guys out in Europe doing the same thing working for me! Don't worry about it. . . Just wanted to say Thanks to all you for your business! Maybe post all your adress, and I'll send you all some customer appreciation letters. Might even advertise some more promotions to all of you! Not gonna lie, not of you is an idiot! My guys, and the rest of them. . . We're all genius's. Some of us have been doing this for over 10 years, making more money doing so than many doctor's. We take anywhere from 300- well over a grand off some people within less than 10 minutes of meeting them half the time! What can I say, we're con artists.
suckered	saint catharines, Canada
3/26/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci DV505 Ok so I was pissed off when I read all this stuff on the forums and stuff, but now that I hooked it all up I actually think its pretty good for what I paid, even though I still feel like a sucker. I spent over $500 on my yamaha system last year, and this one actually sounds better (well the surround sound speakers do, especially the center channel speaker) but my Yamaha subwoofer sounds better than this subwoofer, but it does not have the receiver and stuff that this one has... for $400 I cant complain, Im just glad I stopped there and didnt pay some crazy amount like some other people on here, then I would be reall pissed. does anyone know if this warranty is good just in case?
Disgusted	Kitchener, Canada
3/19/2009 Product or Service Involved: DV-606 I am disgusted, I just got scammed today. I would rather of had more fun setting my money on fire and running around with it. These jerk-asses caught me coming out of Canadian tire, beat up GMC van, wow I smelt something fishy the whole time, offered them $200; walked away to my car after they faught and then they asked for $300. They got it, how could I pass it up really? In these economic times people aren't willing to pass up a good deal, if you got scammed; don't beat yourself up only makes sense. However, we must all remember to take a step back and think. Now these guys are sorta brilliant, - saying they have to meet up with their boss (so they rush you and you have no time to make a decision - Magazines telling the price - The guys acted like morons so it seemed legit, which I bet was also apart of the plan - And these guys must of been straight A students in drama class cuz bravo. Either way I am really disgusted with these people; and reading these posts really makes me wonder if there is any hope for the human race, honestly, how many scammers are out there? One on every corner?
DG	Bathurst, Canada
3/19/2009 Product or Service Involved: Home Theatre System Just spotted the white van at Staples in Bathurst. Beware.
Jeremie McElligott	St-Zotique, Canada
3/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Home Theater Got scammed in the McDonald parkinglot in St-Zotique. But frankly, I really don't know who scammed who because I have exchanged my 50$ amplifier that didn't worked and 20$ cash for two of those Divinci Home Theaters. Gotcha!
david	edmonton, Canada
3/15/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci walking into north side memeory express and got taken good by three guys in a suv they played it to a T, from beer money to the magazine add. Greed got the best of me and the funny thing is, after I found out I was burned I had two things happen. First, a sales cleark didnt charge me for something I bought so I told her, she thanked me...and then the lady at starbucks gave me too much change back so I told her. Then, an hour later, my neighbour ended up giving me a yamaha 5.1 receiever. Karma, sometimes bad things happen to good people but its what we do with it that matters. I see a lot of adds locally on kijiji from this week of people who must of just got burnt and are trying to burn somoeone in return. I hate those ones worse then the scammers who ripped us off in the first place. If you got burnt, please dont try and burn someone in return, instead help the next person and you will sleep better.
well jons	Edmonton, Canada
3/13/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olinross happened in Walmart parking lot, couple guys come up to me in a blue GMC Yukon , gives me the sales pitch, shows me the magazine article, of olinross and msrp, took me hook line and sinker for 2 units, the or1010 and or860 model, paid $500.00 for both, they even have a polished web site, I feel so stupid and embarassed to let this happen to me, please don't let it happen to you
Trevor	Waterloo , Canada
3/12/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci dv505 So my friend and i where pulling up to a tim hortons drive thru just getting a coffee a random white gmc yukon pulled up saying they have an extra speaker system that they have to get out of there vehicle so there boss wont fire them. so my friend paid 300 and i paided 300. the guy said he was coming back to waterloo to pick it up and give us money so he can go sell it . as fucking stupid as we were we gave the guy the money he gave me his number name and show me his id' as stupid as i was i believed him but i didn;t write down his name , they said their name's where Chris and Justin. so where out fuking 500.00 and the great fuking bonus is im goniog to flordia tomorrow and don't have any money for that
DT	Vancouver, Canada
3/10/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DA-6.1 and DiVinci DV-607 It was 6pm, on my way home from work, when I see a vehicle pull up beside me. He rolls down his window and yells out if i`m interested in buying a home theater system. I say i might be. And tells me to pull over. I go to the rear of his vehicle and he shows me two sets of speaker systems and explains how he has these in his possession, explaining that he obtained an extra set by accident by the delivery person. And that he doesn`t want his boss to find out or he`ll just take it for himself. But instead sell them off for some extra money. Then, he pulls out a magazine showing an advertisement of the company and their speakers and it also listed the MSRP. I thought i had struck gold, once in a life time deal. I had to get them. Initially they asked for $1500. I couldn`t afford it. They offered $800, I still couldn`t afford it. I told them i had a couple hundred. But i needed to make a phone call. When i was about to, he told me to pop open my trunk, and he jsut threw it in. He said he was able to do it for $300. I said fine, follow me to the bank. Instead of going to the bank i stopped at my apartment. I bring a relative out to see if he`s interested in getting the home theater system. He was very excited. He bought one set, and i bought the other. Once i got them in my place, i immediately googled this brand, and found out that i`ve got a poor set of generic speakers. On top of that i let my relative buy the other set. Fooled i was, and the guilt i feel. But i will not let my relatives know, they are extremely happy about their purchase. If only there were no such thing as google.... VEHICLE: BLUE 2008 GMC YUKON OR CHEVROLET TAHOE DRIVER: EUROPEAN ETHNICITY ROUGHLY 30-35 YEARS OLD, WEARING A TOQUE AND LOOKED LIKE HE HASN`T SHAVEN IN DAYS **ACCOMPLICE: TALL, THIN WHITE MAIL 30-35 YEARS OLD, WEARING BLACK OVERALLS AND ALSO WEARING A TOQUE AND ALSO LOOKED LIKE HE HASN`T SHAVEN IN DAYS. HE DID MOST OF THE TALKING. ....if spotted please knocked his block off.
canadian tire	Burlington , Canada
3/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: di Vinci Oh, this guy was good! Yup, classic speaker scam...I was caught off guard because I was in my own little world coming out of Canadian Tire. In hindsight I was being observed coming out of a major chain hardware store and his tactic was atypical. Based on his own `training' and experience I am sure he/they sized me up based on my physical attributes. That day i just happened to dress with a degree of yuppieness. Personal choice ya' know. Hey, some gals will wear high heels to the grocery store. Things just did not seem right. i think the approach was a first flag. The `out of the truck' (new forest green jeep...missed the plates), `this sounds odd but I got this....'am I interested? yea but... approach. Then the sales pressure builds proportionaly with my curiosity. Mostly, after the explanation as to why he is unloading, i kept thinking about di Vinci as a visual medium artist though he was a visionary engineer. And when the price was revealed it just seemed classicaly too good. I mean a bargain at Ikea is %40 percent off, so a $3,900 divinci speaker for $400, or whatever `titty money' as he stated (I was taken back by that comment) I could scoop them for being acceptable... still I just didn't need such an item despite the incredible devaluation as presented.He did persist by parking and showing me the goods. But showing me the goods and hearing speakers are two vastly different things. And commenting that I'd never heard of divinci in relationship to speakers was foreign to me. Yup, he excitedely pulled out the brochures and was surprised but as the pitch went on the idea of buying out of the back of an SUV was not in my interest. I didn't need them and as time went on ( maybe two or three minutes by now) I felt the pressure. For me, personally, with respect to a sales press, I'll distance myself. Hmmm...there is something to be said about a brand name. Selling out of the back of a truck? And at some point I wondered about screwing them by playing my own game... but out of trusting and respectful human nature I let it go. Frankly, If i had thought about it any longer for a few minutes I'd have had fun. Word to the consumer: hear the pitch, walk away, think about it, then decide. Still, not cognisant with what was developing I encouraged them to get moving (if time was so critical to him) if they want to move the stuff. that I'm sure they can do better elswhere. I should have at least noticed the license plate, but they did drive off quickly. (canadian here) Farview Canadian Tire parkinglot
Tyler Humphrey	Canmore, Canada
3/4/2009 Product or Service Involved: Orlin Ross Like mentioned in a previous post. Those 2 guys in the SUV with BC plates 627-FXT just left my shop after trying to sell speakers to my staff. Just a word of caution we were joking with the guys saying that we couldn't afford the speakers but that one of us had a gun that we would trade. Surprisingly the two guys wanted to do the deal in exchange for firearms...... scary stuff. I googled the plate number and found this site. Watch out for these guys, they are bad news and shady looking characters
Jeannie	calgary, Canada
3/4/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin ross 5.1 surround speakers My family was at the gas station in Sandstone, Calgary AB and while I was in the store paying for gas some guy approached my husband about the speakers. My husband was excited and wanted to look so he pulled the car over and went to see them. These guys were in a fancy SUV with BC plates on it. They offered 500$ for one product and 200$ for the other. My husband came back to the car to talk to me about it and the guy tried to follow him! I told my husband that the stuff was probably hot and that it was really creepy that these people approached our car when our 11 and 3 year old kids were in the back. Thankfully I persuaded my husband to say no. We came home and found out about the scam a few days later!
William	Ottawa, Canada
3/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: Davinci (Divinci?) Home Theater System Approached by man in light coloured van, Quebec plates, in Orleans area - Ottawa. Wanted to know if I was interested in buying above...there were a number of models in the back, 606 and 608 I believe - approx 6 large boxes. These were professionally printed boxes - black and white. He claimed too many were loaded off the palette. One box was opened and he opened another when I said I was only looking for speakers. He also showed me a (sort of) invoice or some documention to verify the price, approx $3000. I just said I couldn't afford anything close to asking price of $1000 " or somewhere near the middle". We parted. I didn't notice the spelling of "Davinci" or Divinci".
rk	Calgary, Canada
3/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Sound Surround System Just finished getting a haircut when a young guy approached me in Bridlewood area to ask me if I wanted to buy a sound surround system that his company had given to him over and above what he needed as per his paperwork. He showed me a magazine showing the sytem of the system and the value was a lot more than what he wanted for the system, I should of known. My GF was with me and she was suspicious right away, but I still went ahead and purchased the system. It wasn't until the GF looked up Olin Ross systems that we came upon the website that indicated that this was a total scam. I'm not sure if this is much help but I did get their BC license plate 627FXT, probably a stolen SUV. I haven't even taken the system out of the box so I hope it at least works....
Collin DeFehr	Vancouver, Canada
2/27/2009 Product or Service Involved: Davinci DV-606 2 Guys in a tan Suburban with with Quebec plates. Said they were shipped an extra set by accident and wanted to make quick cash for themselves instead of giving to their boss. near Oak St./King edward...luckily had a friend google the model before bying and they fled.
AA	vancouver, Canada
2/27/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci dv-607 same things,white van with calgary plate driver show me the mag around 4000 costs of home threatre system,i told him i don't need,final make a deal for 350,so stupid.
dan	Calgary, Canada
2/26/2009 Product or Service Involved: Media Lab same thing......to guys in a van. sold me a system. seen him somewhere before, i am sure we will again. Nice scam guys
Joe	Edmonton, Canada
2/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci Some crack head sold me some speakers in a blue SUV at wal-mart. said they put 2 instead of 1 in the warehouse.
vero	St-Constant, Montreal, Canada
2/21/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci home theater As usual.....my boyfriend get scammed....paid 350$.. Damned!
styx	Woodstock, Canada
2/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Surround Approached when leaving Walmart by a dude hanging out of a van.(can't remember the colour)Stopped long enough for him to show me the box with the ridiculous price stamped right on it.Just shook my head and walked away!Thanks to Scam Shield,I'd heard about the BS long ago!
Kenneth	None, Canada
2/17/2009 Product or Service Involved: DAVINCI Dark SUV. 1 whit guy and most likely a SIKH (INDIAN). SAME OLD STORY....well if I was stupid enough to fall for it, they probably deserved my $100. I should have remembered "let the BUYER BEWARE".
Mr.Right	Calgary, Canada
2/17/2009 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS the guy that is making comments about my brother on this site from Calgary must be one of the guys who is selling speakers... i have a good job pal and a good education, i do admit my bro isn't to bright, that's why he bought speakers from you idiots, but i will not roll around looking for yah, but if you ask any of my friends or my brother again, they will hold you up until i get there, and i can promise you that i can take time away from my job to make a collection visit....you might not get your product back at the time, but hey payback is a bitch....be careful who you guys sell too...looking forward to meeting you fine gentlemen.....
Tan	Vancouver, Canada
2/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Bose 1990-early 2000's Blue SUV White Man in his late 30's with an Asian Woman possibly in her mid 40's Boundary/Lougheed area of Vancouver BC Stopped me and gave me the same old story. Just picked up a customers order at the warehouse and the warehouse guy gave me double what he was supposed to. If he didn't get rid of them before he got back his boss would take them. They were $4,978 retail, with Bose boxes. Looked pretty legit. Extremely agressive! Especially the Asian lady but she didn't speak English.
Daer Joe	Calgary, Canada
2/15/2009 Product or Service Involved: Assualt charges Blah blah blah, I ... er "my brother" bought dumb speakers in dumb Calgary because I'm dumb. Now the only way I can think to get revenge on the people smarter then me is to THREATEN THEM OVER THE INTERNETS! Watch out guys who slammed me for huge, I'm going to quit my job and drive around all day looking for you instead of just counting this as another $ loss due to stupidity. I WILL be looking for you just so I can get VENGEANCE 4 "MY BROUDER!" This is definitely the best thing I could think of to deal with these SCAMMERS. But thats not all. I will continue to threaten scammers over the internet until this 30 year old scam suddenly stops. Don't worry everyone, just thank me after everyone is too scared to ever try and scam again.
chris	Ottawa, Canada
2/13/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci some dude with a beige minivan sold me a divinci sound system, said it was $3500 and he gave it to me for $250, i wanst even thinking this was in the bank area, he had quebec plate
joe	Calgary, Canada
2/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: olin ross dude with the last comment, you think i am afraid of an assault charge? The person who sold my bro will get a few punches in the face and that's all it will take to knock him out.... that person will learn he's lesson and hopefully won't scam other person again...trust me they won't even know what hit them....the Police can't even charge these guys , we called them and they said they can't do much other then give them fines. I told the officer maybe they need a few slaps to the face, and he laughed and said that's your choice....... don't worry about it, it's not your problem....thanks for the advice....lol
kiko the cat	Windsor, Canada
2/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: divinci surround sound 505 SO my boyfriend and i went to a TD Bank when a man stop right behind us and told my boyfriend about this great deal. i was still in the car at this time. but i can tell his guy was being very persistant on selling his item that he followed my boyfriend to the bank as well.
Bogie	Calgary, Canada
2/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Joe: The scammers have never stopped. This scam is about 25 years old...maybe older. I realize you are angry, but making physical threats; even on the internet, is a criminal offence and should not be taken lightly. Between you and the individuals that unfortunately scammed your brother, you are the one that should be alerted to the police. For your own sake, please be smart and keep your idiotic threats to yourself for your own sake... - if anyone ever did hurt these scammers and they probably will one day...you would be suspect #1.
joe	Calgary, Canada
2/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS Here we go again! there is a company in town again, this guys roll around town selling cheap speakers in their rental. My younger brother just got scammed, they approached him in all mall and told them their boss over shipped them and they will sell them for cheap, they have fake paper work and magazines to show you that they are worth thousands and of course they aren't worth more then a couple hundred bucks, it's a scam beware of them driving around in rentals.....take their plates and call your local Police, but when i find you i will get my brothers money back and i will kick the shit out of you.......trust me i will find you....i know where your at punks...keep your eyes open
DuggyJ	Sudbury, Canada
2/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: Devicci 6.1 surround wireless I was walking to kathleen and a suv with two men said they had an extra system that their boss didn't know about and wanted 300 bucks quickfast and then they wanted to grab 2 oz of pot for the system, I knew something was wrong when they kept pushing me to buy the system, I refused they drove off in a hurry!
SPEAKER MAN	TORONTO, Canada
2/1/2009 ALL YOU PPL OUT THERE THAT BUY THESE THINGS ARE HUGR DUCKS ND IF YOUR WILLING TO BUY SOMETHING OUT OF THE BAK A CAR/TRUCK ITS YOUR OWN FAULT FOR GETTING RIPPED OFF HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH LOL
Jordan	Burnaby, Canada
1/31/2009 Product or Service Involved: da vinci dv 606 2 guys in a white escalade approached me at the Shell gas station near the Lougheed Town Centre today. Tried to sell me the da vinci dv 606 claiming they had an extra from a install job. Thankfully I didn't take it. boy were they pushing though. tried to start me at $800 and I got them down to $300, but it didn't have what I needed so I passed. Glad I did.
Todd Trischuk	Edmonton, Canada
1/28/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci IDF-50 Home Theatre System I was coming out of the Canadian Tire store in St. Albert, AB when two guys in a Silver Cadillac Escalade approached me to buy a home theatre system. It was a Divinci IDF-50 system, MSRP $3699, even showed me a magazine with the system, a description, and the MSRP. They were very pushy to the point of asking how much I could get out of the bank machine right now, because the boss was coming in 10 minutes and they needed to unload them. At one point, they took the sytem out of their truck to put it in my car and drive to the ATM. I'm glad I resisted, I actually thought about buying it but didn't thinking it was stolen.
Jos�e	Montreal, Canada
1/28/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Same story. I was coming out of Cosco. Two guys pulled up in a dark Escalade. Told me the story about the overstock... Had magazine, were in bosses car. Very Very pushy. Followed me to the bank machine. I was taken for a 100$. How stupid of me. I felt like calling the cops and should have. Lesson well learned.
MS1	Kitchener, Canada
1/25/2009 Product or Service Involved: idf-50 To the guys from stratford London and Guelph, these are the same two idiots driving around in this Escalade all i know is they are from mississauga ontario and apparently the vehicle is from some leasing company.I really hope someone catches up with them. appears they sure get around.
zach stooksberry	calgary, Canada
1/22/2009 Product or Service Involved: olin ross two males approached my friend at the safeway parking lot on the corner of 36th and 32nd street n.e they were driving a black truck and claimed to have high profile stereo systems for a cheap price in the back . they gave him a big speal on how they were overstocked and needed to get rid of the merchandise, they showed him a brochure i.d's and even an invoice for the price which showed over $2000 msrp lol what a crock he called me after he paid $100 bucks for the junk and and asked if he got a good deal. well i knew right away since this scam has been around for almost 3 years... YOU'VE BEEN HAD! the stereos are knockoffs the brand olin ross. do not buy
Yet Another	Stratford, Canada
1/22/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci IDF-50 Grocery store parking lot, two guys in a black cadillac escalade. Said they did an installation at a specific street, should have noticed the lack of any tools in the vehicle. Product build quality is crap, but bass response from sub is decent for a knock-off brand. Lesson learned.
TJ	Westbank, Canada
1/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs G-506 Two guys driving in dark purple van, selling "extra" audio sets for party money. asking 1000 or max someone can offer to pay.
RJ	Calgary, Canada
1/17/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross 860 5.1 Surround Sound Got scammed in Calgary in a Safeway Parking lot. Two white guys in their late-twenties driving a Blue Ford Explorer SUV. Showed me their ID, and the sound system in a magazine, as well as a MSRP of $2499 for the OR860 system. Dumb question but I asked repeatedly if they were HOT. They pledged they were not. Gave me some lame explanation on how they got the systems. Why I hesitated and purchased I don't know why. I don't ever make these kinds of purchases, but allowed myself to be tempted. I actually did need a system, however. But got suckered for $400. Serves me right for being so gullible. Just hope the system works in the end.
Tommy	Calgary, Canada
1/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Lab Guy in white van at the timmys on blackfoot....guy was asking my dad if he wanted a home theater system with a DVD player, called me and told me about it guy was on the phone with me explainig it all so i told my dad to grab it, once i got home figured it was shit so i looked up the brands and found out it was all a scam. I'm on the hunt looking for him so if anyone is approached take down his license plate # and post it I'll let a few friends of mine in the police department tell me who he is and where he lives and see if i can get the money back. There asking $500 for it
Ian	London, Canada
1/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinci IDF-50 Two younger guys (20 yrs or so), both white and driving an Escalade stop me in the Home Depot parking lot while walking with my 10yr old daughter and say "Can I ask you a weird question?" They told me that they had an extra home theater that they were delivering and would I like it. I said no at first but they stressed that it was loaded in the truck by accident and it was just going back to their boss otherwise. I looked at the car and the guys and thought I'd look at it. They showed me the magazine with the unit in it and a price of $3499 on it. I said I could only go for $200. I fell for it. They said the right things and I bought it because I thought I was getting a great deal (resale) and getting away with doing wrong at the same time. Got home. Looked it up on the web. Felt like a huge idiot. Try telling your wife about it after and not get berated. If it's to good to be true...it is.
Jonathan Colvin	Richmond, Canada
1/15/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis media parking lot of canadian tire. Two dudes in a grey sedan had a pair of genesis 506 systems that they were mistakenly given extra of. Showed me a buyers guide, $5000 msrp listed on the box. I needed a system so was interested. They wanted $1000 for it. I said I have $300. They tried to get me up to $700, so i said i wanted to look at it. They opened the box for me. The speakers were featherlight plastic pieces of crap, that just sat on the stands. I said they had no weight, how could they sound good. He gave me some story that they needed to be light so they could hang from the ceiling. The sub/amp had some weight to it, who knows it might have had chunks of lead in there for all i know. The dude was trying to demonstrate how to lock the stand to the speaker, he twisted it and the plastic pins broke off. hehehe. I said..hey..you just broke it! He said "no i didnt". I said it looked like a cheap chinese ripoff. The other dude said "let's get out of here, this guy is full of shit". They split. I kept my $. they had an opened box with a broker speaker stand. hehehe
Vic	Kingston, Canada
1/12/2009 What is the name of the leasing company in Mississauga. I will be in the area and would like to pay a visit. Please respond soon!
Payback	Guelph, Canada
1/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci I Fell for the same scam, got the plate number (black Escalade) and called the police most they could tell me was it was a leasing company out of Mississauga. I now know which and hope to be running into my friends real soon.
alex	toronto, Canada
1/9/2009 so i got jipped 200 bucks im only 16 so the money is not easy to come by. i do have the guys phone number , i figured just incase id say ill get yu 20 bucks next week and well i got his number but i do not know if i can call the cops on him for the and if it is illegal in ontario? please help ASAP.. THANKS
Victor Lafrance	Kingston, Canada
1/8/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Was about to watch Canada win the world junior hockey championship when i wanted to get some wings. I went to the loblaws grocery store when i was approached by two punks in a Black porsche cayenne. They ended up suckering is into looking at the OR880 with MSRP $ 2500. I didnt even know this scam existed despite hearing after its as old as the day is long. Anyway guys came to appartment showed us it was in the box and wormed us for 200! Started at 1250 but kept sliding. The second they left we looked up the brand on the net and found out it was a scam. Felt damn stupid!!! Spent another hour looking for these guys to get even! No luck...at least canada won gold!
GhostBuster	Calgary, Canada
1/8/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross OR860 Prodigy Series WARNING:To everyone out there that got screwed, buying any of the Olin Ross Systems-OR703-OR803-OR860-OR880-OR1000-OR1010-OR1020-OR1050-OR5000k-Or6050,I did a little research and the name brand does not excist,also the sight for Olin Ross is not even a real sight.Also found out that there has been reports that the Olin Ross Systems can actually catch fire and damage other components that are hooked up to it.And If anyone has not noticed yet, the system has no serial #.I have taken the subwoofer apart, and now I see why it can catch fire.Not even worth the box it came in.I think putting a few notices up around town might help to get the word out about these ASSHOLES!You would think that, with all the scams going on it would of been reported to the T.V. news.You can check out Kijiji on google Olin Ross 5.1 surround system for more Info.
Ghostbuster	Calgary, Canada
1/6/2009 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS BUYER BEWARE!Well live and learn, same story 2 guys in black SUV in parking lot at 17th Ave S.E.pulled out a OLIN Ross OR860 Series Home Theater he wanted 300.00 got it for 250.00 I should have knowen better that it was to good to be true.Speakers work and that's about all we got figured out????.I guess there's a frist time for everything.I hope they get whats coming to them, and I hope it's a good one.I feel for the next SUCKER out there.
shayne	Brockville , Oregon
1/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: Grafdale speakers LMAO YALL GOT RIPPED!! I THOUGHT I GOT A GOOD DEAL I GOT 4 SPEAKERS FOR 200 BUCKS AND THEY STILL SOUND GREAT TILL THIS DAY
George	Toronto, Canada
1/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: Samaurai I found mine in the garbage. Didn't pay anything. They work great. I'll use them for the garage. Thanks!!
Mitch	Ottawa, Canada
12/31/2008 I was appraoched by two males in a charcoal colored SUV. They gave me the regular story...overstock..system is worth $1'999.99 but will take whatever my bank will allow as daily limit. The driver was a slim, unshaven nerdy looking guy, The passenger was a black, thug looking guy who clearly was the more aggressive of the two. The speakers came in two different style boxes. I did get a licence plate number of the vehicle and called police immediately. This occurred at St-Laurent and Donald street in the plaza in front of the pawn shop. They practically chased my vehicle to get my attention. Here's hoping the ploice did their job!!
Anonymys	Hamilton, Canada
12/30/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs g506 speakers Outside of home depot in hamilton out of a van
chris	ottawa, Canada
12/30/2008 Product or Service Involved: divinci crap i was walking to my car after work and some guy come`s at me in his van freaking out about this great deal. Same ol bull you all got showed me some flyer with it for like 3200 and tell`s me how great of a deal it is. i didnt buy it i just walked away thought it was funny. this happed at merivale and hunt club infront of the canadian tire. one young ugly ass dude in a teal minivan with ofcourse quebec plates. another time i had some guys in a black caddilac truck offer me some plasma tvs off the side of the highway near hawksburry yeat again i just rolled my eyes and drove away
Serves you right	Mississauga, Canada
12/16/2008 Product or Service Involved: None I agree with the two comments below. You cannot cry "WOLF" when your intentions were to buy products that you believed were someone else's to sell (other words - 'STOLEN'). If you still think you have been wronged and you still believe the police will be willing to waste their time to help you return what you think is subpar merchandise...many of the scammers sell the stuff on Kijiji, Craig's List, Ebay and the Buy&Sell. Just send them an email asking to meet and bring the police - I'm sure they would gladly give up their donut break. The truth is they don't care...if they did, these ads on Kijiji or Craigs List would be removed...and funny enough, many of these ads are from other people who had been conned and are now trying to con someone else to recover their losses.
Rod D1ckmaster	None, Canada
12/14/2008 who actually falls for this? I have been approached by these guys dozens of times starting in the mid 1980s. They usually tell some tale about having just put a new sound system in the local titty bar and having extra speakers that they want to sell, so they can keep the cash instead of returning them to the warehouse. Geez people, it's not even a clever scam! If you bought something from the back of a van, which the vendor TOLD YOU OUTRIGHT was NOT HIS TO SELL, and you bought it anyway, and then realized that you got scammed..... I have to wonder if anybody has ever fallen for it twice...
Serves you all right	Toronto, Canada
12/13/2008 Product or Service Involved: All of them How do you think you are victims? All these sob stories of how you got taken by some shifty sales people. YOU were all trying to buy what you believed to be either stolen property or black marker goods. There is nothing innocent about that. You should all give your heads a shake and realize that had you got what you wanted you'd be in posession of stolen property and thrilled to have got away with it. I'm glad you all got ripped off.
fern	timmins ontario, Canada
12/11/2008 Product or Service Involved: jenesis media labs g-6.1 well they made it to timmins ontario 1 white male and 1 black male driving a white van well i was pumping gas for my truck...aproche me that they hade extra sound systems genesis media labs g-6.1 for sale they said they where wourth 1999.00 and sold 1 to me for 100.00 and i lokk it up on the computer wend i got home and they are only wourth 300.00 so beware of the scamers..
Ella Tibble	Calgary, Canada
12/8/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Stereo and Element Electronics Genesis G-506 Stereo and Element Electronics HDVD player. Bought by trusting victim at RONA Revy in NE Calgary. Approached by two young men in a new black Chev pickup with canopy. One of the men has a French accent and said he was from Ontario. Buyer was told they received an extra order from their warehouse and were willing to sell it cheap. "Genesis" name brand sounded familiar, and used to be a high-end stereo brand name. Used all the techniques described on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_speaker_scam They also offered the DVD player and immediately exited the parking lot ~ at some speed ~ after handing off the HDVD player. This unit can be found at Walmart for about $35 but $150 was paid.
Itisascambutalegalone	Toronto, Canada
12/6/2008 ok guys, this is a scam but it's one that's legal. They have permit to sell those speakers and home systems. They all have vendors permits to sell these kinds of imports. I bought one just the same. This is how they are told to sell, it is a culture they built. People are so weak when it comes to black market products. They are so used to buying them. It's the public that needs to be aware. There is no point in getting the license plate because it will not hold up in court. It's the same as getting a license plate of a hot dog vendor. Just punch them in the face, but do it carefully. Don't let them see your license plate. :P . If they see it, they can sue you for attacking an employee.
Ryan	Calgary, Canada
12/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS or880 sound system I was in the Canadian tire Parking lot in the SE of Calgary, This Maroon SUV said he had a soundsystem to deliver but the warehouse had put 2 in his vehicle by accident, he asked for $1000.00 for it I talked him down to $400.00 and took it home, what a waste of money on pure junk, I know if i see this guy or anyone they are going to pay dearly I have been driving around just to get the oppurtunity to run into one of these scammers again.
Sabu	Cambridge, Canada
12/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS or880 sound system Yesterday I had a samething happened , I paid $200 but the system doesn't work. This all happened in front of Sams Club Cambridge.I called this guy talked to one time he asked me to check in the web site. After that he didn't picking the phone. His SUV # BDCT 862 and His name he said Jastin Cell # 416 875 6596. I am such a stupid.
blank	Saint John, Canada
12/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genises? scam in saint john!; 2 males in a New White Yukon SUV with Quebec license plate, thin white guy, eastern european, short black hair,called himself Danny, and a black guy, which stayed in the SUV. they were selling a home theatre system, they made this big story about some shit and that they were worth $2.000 dollars and he was selling for $500, cause he needed some money,we said we didnt have money, they white buddy ask if we had any drugs.we got the system for $165 they showed us it and shit took it out the box and it look pretty sweet, checked it out later and fucking piece of shit.
Painter Guy	Calgary, Canada
12/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: definitive sound technology So my buddy did get scammed. The real speakers are Defintive Technology, the scammers are selling Definitive Sound Technology. They do produce sound but very poor sound
Jonathan	Toronto, Canada
12/2/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Was driving along Queen St. East between Woodbine and Coxwell when a white SUV (possibly a GMC Danali or Infiniti Q56) pulled up beside me in traffic and driver (thin white guy, eastern european, short black hair) started yelling at me: "do you want a home theatre system?" I immediately said "I'm not interested" and the guys started telling me to "pull over!" At that point there was a mix of fear and intrigue so I pulled over. The guy on the passenger side (short, fat, white guy, short dirty blonde hair with goatee, called himself Sergio and said his mother was mexican) gets out of the car and starts talking a mile a minute about how they have 8 home theatre systems instead of 7 and their "fat, rich, italian" boss will just take the overstock for himself if they don't get rid of it within the next 20 minutes. They started showing me the box and the Minimum Suggested Retail Price of $3299, along with magazines, and invoices. Long story short, I ended up giving them $560 cash for one set. I remember looking at the licence plate and thinking that I should write it down (in other words I had more than an incling that this was probably a scam), but I didn't because I thought that there was no way these guys could have put together such an elaborate scam. To all who read this: If you have been approached by the guys who match this description please email me at jonathan_galt_86@hotmail.com If you have any information that you think could possibly help me in any way to find these criminals and put them to justice I would like to hear from you. If you are interested in joining me in the hunt I would like to hear from you. I am currently following some interesting leads and believe that I am progressing towards one day meeting face to face with these guys again very soon but any additional information that could spead up the inevitable would be appreciated. -Jonathan
Dan	Toronto, Canada
11/29/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci D-7 I was approached by a black SUV (suburban or yukon) in the parking lot of Humber College, and the driver said he had this crazy deal for me. He got out and ran around to the back of the truck explaining that he was doing a demo at the university and the idiots at shipping gave him three units instead of 2. He said the home theatre system was like stereo equipment for rich guys and it was works $3200 but he was in a rush to get over and set up the demo so he had to get rid of it before his boss go there (his boss would just be taking it and putting it back at the warehouse or something so this way he and his partner could get something out of it). When they stopped me I was running across the parking lot to make it to class on time and wasn't thinking clearly in the first place. I told him I couldn't afford very much at all and he kept pushing. I asked what he was thinking and he finally spit out that the lowest he could go was $600 and I said I couldn't afford that. I said how about $500 and he said okay but I'd owe him one if i ever saw him around again. That's true.. I owe him one...
Denny Bell	None, Canada
11/26/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Pretty much got scammed like everyone else. Same story......god damnit
AJ	Calgary, Canada
11/26/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis G-506 I was approached in the SW of Calgary in a parking lot by two guys in a green mini van and said they had a overstocked shipment of home stereos. I told them I wasn't interested. They said it was worth $4000 and they would give it to me for $800 I said no but they then gave me a magazine to look at with the prices. They also said I could have warranty on it for 1 year and all details were inside.The stereo box looked legit, I ended up giving them $300 and went home to research my purchase. I then realized I had been taken for a fool. So KEVIN & MIKE from Calgary when you find out more info on these guys or where their office of OLIN ROSS is let me know I would like to pay them a visit also. These guys must be found!!!!
D	Vancouver, Canada
11/25/2008 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinci 7.1 suround 2 males in a New White Yukon SUV with Calgary Plates i bought 2 of these for 500$ each and it showed they were going for 3599$ and even showed me a magazine that they featured in. and they said they installing tese in riverrock casino and their truck got packed with extra i hope you 2 never run into me again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N/a	edmonton, Canada
11/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: divinci sound IDF -50 5.1 channel speaker system , white man sketchy , figured he was a crack head new stuff all there ... offered little cash and he accepted silver for door honda Licence RHU-015 see him punch him in the face
Eytan Rip	Ottawa, Canada
11/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci or DiVinci home theatre system Typical white van speaker scam. Guy in white Dodge Caravan, Quebec license plate, approaches me in a parking lot which happens to have an ATM in it. he tells me that his work gave him three of these systems for free and he wants to sell them for cheap. He claims they are $3200 systems but that he will take $1000 for them. When I refuse he says '$800, $700?? What can you take out of the bank machine?' He had shown me a catalogue as well.
Anon	Waterloo, Canada
11/18/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-505 Charismatic white male scams university kids in Waterloo. Last seen outside UW Place. He is described as shifty on the verge of vampirism. I hate him. If I see him again, I will beat the $700 out of him that he scammed me for. If you or any of your friends read this: you suck. Your mother cries for your actions, or did she put you up to this? Oh, SNAP! PLEASE, give me my money back. I have nothing to eat in the cupboards...
cherry coke	None, Canada
11/17/2008 Hi my name is douche , this is for KEVIN if you want to find these fleas selling olin ross just hang out at the td bank on memorial in the n.e they always go in there , thats when you can stick it to them ,then you can smash all there fagot little faces. I hope you catch them because they are a bunch of fucking dumb ass wipes that dont even know how to sell speakers , and there fucking looser boss charges them 300 bucks for that crap , what a bunch of panzies good luck and fuck you olin ross douche bags
Rasha	Guelph, Canada
11/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross or1010 My roommate and I got scammed out at Stone Road Mall parking lot area. Its the same story as everyone else, except there was only 1 guy and he drove an Escalade.
Kevin	calgary, Canada
11/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: olin ross I bought them the same way as everyone else...if i catch them i will make them take me to their boss and make sure they all pay the price for their mistakes. It was two guys in a explorer silver....two white guys , one of them is a albino white as a ghost and the other one was a little over weight. I look forward to meeting your boss and the both of them in one location....I want my money back and i will find you guys ...trust me so beware and look out for me in your parking lots, cuz i will be looking for you guys.......
confused	Mississauga, Oregon
11/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: None If you call the police on these white van speaker scam artists...what would be the charge? Wouldn't the police have to confiscate the "stolen" speakers? Do the buyers actually think there is a return policy from products bought out of a van. Why do consumers actually buy speakers the seller admits are stolen in the first place? If you feel you are ripped off...you deserve it ...buyer beware.
mike	calgary, Canada
11/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS Well, where do i start....again there is a couple guys running an office in Calgary, Alberta. They rent vans from rental companies and they pick up speakers from a warehouse, which soon i will have the address. The brand is Olin Ross and they don't always work. To purchase these speakers it cost 125 and they sell them for 320 and up. They're are a few other guys out there running the scam to. If you see them report them to Immigration and to the local Police. Some of them are Americans....don't think you can come to my country and sell scam speakers here boys......
Nathan Thompson	Edmonton, Canada
11/13/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci/Grafdale If anyone knows how I can get in contact with these guys, I'd be interested in buying a set if they'll go low enough. When I lived in Ontario, I bought a set of Grafdale speakers from a yard sale and upon checking them out on google thought I got ripped. The sound in them was AMAZING and I actually almost got evicted from my apartment because the base was so deep. If anyone knows how I can get in touch with these guys or even has a set of the speakers/amp that they want to try and recoup some of their money, let me know. My email is thompsonathan@hotmail.com
Darcy Paquette	Red Deer, Canada
11/12/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs After reading all of this, I was a victim of a white van scam fitting the description to a T. I would imagine they were heading back to Edmonton because they kept saying Calgary to us. Aged around 25 and 30-35. posed as installers.
Scammed	Brampton, Ontario, Canada
11/11/2008 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinci Got scammed just like the rest of you, same old lines, bought it hook, line and sinker... thought I was getting a deal :S... serves me right i guess... let buyer beware :S ...
Carolyn	Etobicoke, Canada
11/10/2008 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci Saw these guys on Islington south of Bloor trying to sell this system to a young guy walking down the street. I stopped my van and called them out on it (being scammed by this myself only a couple months earlier) It was SOOOO funny to watch the guys face drop as I called out his act. On my way back to my van they shouted all sorts of foul things at me and through a water bottle at me. I unfortunately did not have the where with all to call the police because I could have gotten then for assault. But be warned, these guys are assholes.
Courtenay	Toronto, Canada
11/8/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs Soung System G-506 I was in a parking lot at Jane and Wilson, in a plaza that has a couple of banks. I was walking to my car when a van with two guys pulled up and said that they were trying desperately to unload an extra set of speakers that has been sent accidentally on a delivery call. They were trying to sell them for themselves before their boss found out and took the product back. They said that the speakers were worth $4000, and they showed me an invoice and a magazine with the product advertised in it. Stupidly, I believed them and thought that I was getting a great deal. When I said I would like to call my husband to get his opinion, they said that they were in a big hurry and there was no time. They wanted $500 and I ended up paying $300 for the speakers that I later found out were junk. Serves me right for being naive. I hope that this helps someone else from falling for this.
Mana	Surrey, Canada
11/7/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis IM-66 A white male sold my dad a Genesis IM-66 surround sound in the Newton Area of Surrey. He showed him the Genesis website and the MSRP was $5,299. this system is not worth the money you paid but i have been able to get sound out of the speakers. the wires given dont work but i hooked up the speakers to my older surround system and the speakers do produce sound. with a little more work you can probably get the speakers and sub/amp to work if not than at least you have a pretty expensive ipod charger.
jack	None, Canada
11/5/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Same as everybody else rolled his window down outside a store and gave me the whole "overstock" BS told me i owe him a beer and i could sell the system on ebay... and im pretty sure its the exact guy that scammed shannon from milton, canada same vehicle and phone number... hes fucked if i ever catch him and to think i was gonna take a pic of his vehicle and plate number but didnt wow im stupid
Paul	calgary, Canada
11/5/2008 Wow, i guess i am not the only sucker out there. I called my friend and told him what i did and he started laughing and told me what happened to him....watch out for the blue van and take the plates and phone the Police....scamers
mike	calgary, Canada
11/2/2008 Product or Service Involved: olin ross I was in a parking lot doing some banking and 2 guys asked me if i wanted a stereo, they told me they got extra, they told me they are going to give me a deal if i could get cash today. i thought it was a little shifty so i didnt buy them, but what i did do is take pictures of there faces without them knowing with me cell phone and i got there license plate too, so beware in calgary....i believe there is a office in town, i saw a other 2 guys the same day and i got there plates too...they seem to be renting trucks from rental companies....anyways here are there plates and if you hear from this call police and take there names and plates.H-03110 silver Explorer and the other one is brown Explorer H-03158 if see they contact police right away....good luck its a scam don't buy....
Man I'm Stupid	Saint John , Canada
10/31/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 6.1 folks after seeing thi forum blog or whatever you so to call it I guess I am not alone... same deal as most speakers would to good to resist...so I thought..I have a bit more info for you all though.. Quebec lic plate FDF 6551... one guys name Scott Jones...this name I am quite sure of and the other is Jeff Comeau I think.. if you may know them cut their #$%^&*'s off for me please,..they were very lucky my wife was smart enough to not let me go after them and she had the police instead...but as you all know there was no crime committed I am sorry to say...
Lesley	Edmonton, Canada
10/26/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci I was driving down Calgary Trail when a car pulled up beside me and asked if I was interested in a cheap surround sound system. We pulled into a parking lot where he explained that him and his buddy work for a delivery company and the warehouse loaded 3 of these sytems into the car instead of the 2 they signed for. They had to get rid of the extra system quick because they had only signed for two, it couldn't be traced back to them and they wanted some cash! The MSRP on the box is $3229.00. He showed us one of the audio magazines that these are featured in and I was sold! They followed me and my dad to a bank machine where I paid them $650 for the system. When I arrived home and looked on the internet I saw scam all over the net where people across Canada have had the same thing happen to them. I guess if it sounds too good to be true it probably is!
MrWong	Toronto, Canada
10/24/2008 Product or Service Involved: divinci I was at the gas station, and these two kids pull up saying they had a home theatre system to give away for cheap. Being a young male and currently on the search for a new system, it peaked my interest. Sadly to say, i got shafted out of $500 for these speakers. I knew they were "hot", but from my understanding they were just a couple of kids looking to sell off some stolen merchandise. Didn't even think they were part of a scam until i read up on it on wikipedia. I havent tried the speakers yet, lets hope they do more good then damage.
Smart guy	Windsor, Canada
10/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: Millenniun Theater Systems Two dudes, one fat, one albino, slight odour of weed in vehicle.Dodge Caravan Ontario plates AZKF 354.Dirtbags actually put the speekers into my car at the grocery store after my POLITE attempts to refuse. To all you other dirtbags pulling this shit. DO NOT DO THIS TO A COP. WE DON"T LIKE IT.IT MAKES US ANGERY.
Jason	Toronto, Canada
10/22/2008 Product or Service Involved: none This happened in the summer of 2007. I in the Eglington Town Centre parking lot, in the middle of the day heading back from Canadian Tire to my car, and a guy in a white van pulled up on me, and asked me if I wanted to buy a home theater system. I said no, and that I already had one, and didn't have any interest in buying another one. He just smiled and drove away. I had no idea that it was a scam, but even if I was interested, I would never buy speakers out of a van. Who knows what could happen? I'm surprised so many people would. Anyway, I'm glad I learned about this scam so I can alert everyone I know about it, and hopefully stop someone else from getting scammed in the future by letting them know they are in the process of being scammed.
Linda	Cloverdale, Surrey, Canada
10/20/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci DV 606 Home Theatre White male approximately 30 years old pulls into the parking lot of Chevron by Tirecraft on the #10 Bypass and asks a couple guys in the Tirecraft store if they want to buy some a home theatre system. They send him on his way and he approaches us...we figure he is a cop trying to bust us for buying stolen property. He convinces us that he is working for Boss Home Theatre Installations and they gave him a couple extra systems in error and he didn't have to sign for them so technically they aren't hot. We bought one for $500 and the second for $400 (for a friend). Talk about feeling stupid! Supposedly they were worth $3,499. He was in a silver/grey SUV. License plate # 285JLV.
doesnt matter	toronto, Canada
10/15/2008 Product or Service Involved: OLIN ROSS or1010 sound system Well i was behind the shopping center where i work at, and was throwing away the garbage when a young man with a big silver SUV drove by. First words where "you wanna buy a home theater system?". I said no, I never watch TV, so then he started his little conversation. He was claiming to be Russian. He kept telling me over and over again how good deal it was and I kept saying no but he didn't stop. (now comes the nice part, and its a good time to mention that as i was throwing away garbage, my car's rear door was opened...). Well, despite the fact I was negative he took the system out of his car to show it to me. Then he showed me an MSRP price (3.3k$), and i thought it was a good time to get reed of him buy getting out of my pocket all of my money and showing him that I only have 90 dollars. He kept asking me if I could find more money, etc. Before I knew it he put the sound system at the back of my car. (Yes, he was very aggressive, but he gets more aggressive, keep reading). Then I took a look at the sound system, the box displays an amplifier/fm-receiver/subwoofer, and 4 speakers. At the side-bootom of the box it says: "2 front speaker, 2 rear surround speaker, 1 center channel, 1 subwoofer". The box is also full o pictures of a complete sound system. So I said anyway lets do it... I gave him 90 dollars, but as I was getting into my car, he came back before i close the door, and asked for more money. I showed him that I only had like 2 dollars (in quarters/tens/pennies etc. like 30 coins), That was when he crossed the line, he bend down, into my car and started getting all my coins. Yes we are talking about 30 coins making 2 dollars all together... he didnt leave even one coin. But no he didnt stop. He kept asking for more money, I knew that I hadnt got a single penie left so I open my cars little "box" (between the drivers and passengers sit), to show him im out of money. Then he saw the cheque-book and asked for a check of 50 dollars. Then I started getting angry, I told him there was no way I would write a cheque for him, and he finally stept away asking me to buy him a beer if i would see him again in the area. But that was not the only part of the scamming. When I went home and opened the box, there was only the subwoofer/amplifier, and the center speaker, 4 speakers where missing, the ones that where on the boxe's pictures, and also printed on the box as i wrote before. I understand the "white van speaker operation" is legal (not in my case because of his aggression and taking my coins without asking), but how this company is allowed to sell a system claiming to be a complete sound system, and NOWHERE on the box saying that only half of the items that are on the boxes picture's, that are also PRINTED on the box, are included? Nowhere on the box it says what's included or what's not. The product's name is or1010 5.1 system, while the box includes 2 speakers. This is pure scam, and if i was doing it i would be in front of a judge, but I guess big companies have big lawyers. I got his plate's-number while he drove away, but i don't see how would going legal on him would help me, or more importantly stopping the scam. I dont care about my 100 dollars, but there are people out there paying lots of hundreds of dollars for the same items, and it's just sad that this is legal, because it is pure scam.
Painter Guy	Calgary, Canada
10/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: Difinity It turns out they were actually Definitive Tecnology speakers and they were stolen. Anyways beware of the scam...
Painter Guy	Calgary, Canada
10/12/2008 Product or Service Involved: Difinity One of my employees came to work today excited to tell me about his wicked deal he got on some speakers. I just shook my head as he told me the story. Yes, it was the same old song and dance, the invoices,the website, the magazine articles and so on. Difinity is the name they're using these days. So he got took for $300. I havent seen them yet but I will post an update on the quality when i do see them. I'm guess that they will be junk but you never know I nded up with some Theatre Response WVS and they are ok at best. This happened at the Royal Bank On 58th ave se on a Friday and my employee happens to be a single male. I can't believe people are still falling for this scam. He got the License plate number which i will post as soon as i get it.. PEOPLE C'MON think a little.
The Scam Crime Fighter	Ottawa, Canada
10/10/2008 Product or Service Involved: Various DiVinci Products If any of you have been scammed, PLEASE CALL YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. Give the call centre operator as much information as you can. A lesson for next time, make sure you write down the license plate number. Within the City of Ottawa, these scams are done by young white men from Quebec.
D.E.G.	Ottawa, Canada
10/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinici DV-7010 A friend called me yesterday about being approached by a speaker guy during his lunch break outside a Starbucks Coffee shop. My friend didn't get scammed, but wanted me to report the event to the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) Non-Emergency line. My friend even got the guy's license plate number (FEK 3393). Its a Quebec plate. The guy that scammed me was from Quebec as well. The description on the male was white, about 5'10", brown eyes, medium build. The male drove a silver or gray 2008 Dodge Caravan. Anybody who has been scammed by these guys living in the City of Ottawa should call OPP at 613-230-6211. When you get through the line, ask for the Fraud department. My friend also stated that there may be a possibility that the vehicle may be stolen.
Andrew	London, Canada
10/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Basically, leaving my apartment building, guy in white GMC truck yells at me if I'm from London, I said yes assuming he was looking for directions. Goes on his whole thing about "getting too many from the factory" and doesn't want his boss to find out. I end up getting hosed for $230. His name was Chris, probably close to 6 feet tall, short spiked dark hair. I told him I'd give him more money later and gave him my phone number... yeesh, I feel dumb.
None of Your Beeswax	Toronto, Canada
10/8/2008 Product or Service Involved: Hi-Fi Sound System Driving North on Jane St. When this guy in a black explorer honks to signals me to roll down my windows. I thought he needed some directions or something so I roll them down. He offers a great deal on speakers. There are 6 boxes with 1 open box. He says he is a delivery guy(5'4, caucasian, black hair, and in retrospect he sounds like a scam artist too) and there was an inventory error. Luckily, he has one extra box and he wants to sell it before he has to go back to the warehouse. Everything in the box looks nicely packaged and new. The Box has a MRSP of 2499.99. And there is an ad in the magazine which states the price again. I get to the ATM, but then I think about it for a second. I turn on my good instincts and tell him I don't want it. He immediately says "It's such a good deal, you can resell for more later" I tell him numerous times. But every time he wants to talk about it. He'll honk his horn and yell out the window. I tell him for the final time to leave me alone and he gets lost.
arend	Vancouver, Canada
10/7/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs IM66 5.1 surround sound system Surrey, vancouver. single white male. sunglasses. medium short light brown hair (going by the name sean) 5'10"-6'. Dark blue late 90's earlry 2000's ??dodge caravan???(i think>>>smooth body lines...rounded shape) didn't catch liceanse plate. showed up at my construction site...was talking to my boss but my boss already had plenty of sound equip. my boss came back told me what was up (the usual..high end amazing home theatre for dirt cheap). Buddy whipped through why he was getting rid of this shit hella fast...saying something about a company and extra's and him getting fired if i say sumthing...now this is where I made my mistake (see i knew this guy my brother inlaw who works for a hometheatre retailer franchise..and he told me about this guy who would take wharehouse orders, change them, remove product and sell it privately...>so this is what I thought was going on) so i paid $600 bucks for it...i guess that's what i get for thinking i was getting a good deal on something "stolen"....but i'm still hella angry...i meen i got is set up right now, sounds decent...all i got working is the tuner haven't got it attached to the tv yet...but i tried and it's got nothing..it's all scatchy and shit...and come on that remote is a peice of shit...a 5grand (thats what it was listed as and price on the bar code) home theatre system doesn't come with a cheap shit ass remote and no separate sub out...it's a mess now that i got it outta the box. THIS GUY IS IN SURREY AND I WANT HIM AND MY 600BUCKS BACK. HOW CAN I CONTACT GENESIS MEDIA LABS I wanna fuck shit up..i'm gonna wait around that area..and i'm gonna mess him up..if anybody see's him unfortuneately it's probably to late.
Dale	Dartmouth, Canada
10/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: Gensis G 506 I was in a parking lot by Burnside Hotel and a guy in a silver SUV approached me stating that he had one extra system that he had to unload and was heading out to install all the rest of them. showing me an invoice, he then proceeded to show me a magazine with that system right in it for $3999.00, He started off with $1200.00 as an offer. I told him all I had was $200.00. Sounded like a good deal. I thought that I was on the ball when it come to quick talkers. Guess not. They were in a silverish SUV I think the licence was EMD-045 Nova Scotia.
tameka	mississauga, Canada
10/2/2008 instead of a white van this guy came up to me in a blue van and i offered him 100$. we need to track down these guys and kick their ass!
Roland Beaulieu	Calgary , Canada
10/1/2008 Product or Service Involved: Home Audio Speaker System Was walking home, approached by very aggressive person for a deal of the lifetime, willing to give it to me for three hundred, asked to take me to nearest ATM, I got in got a ride home went up to my condo but never came back down, i told him i had to transfer money on the computer. I didn't go back down though.
London Ontario	London Ontario, Canada
9/30/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci IDF-40 im eating lunch in a parking lot on EXITOR and WELLINGTON when some kid parks beside me driving a BLACK PORSCHE CAYANNE named CHRIS cell#: (1-647-882-3486) claims that he works for a home theator company and has to get rid of an 'extra' system before he goes to see his boss. MSRP printed on the unopened sealed box says $3499, he also had with him a fake work order with list prices, and a magazine claiming the sytem is worth 3500$. wanted 1000$...and i gave the fuckin ashole 500$ for this peice of shit system...if its to good to be true, than it is
Alexandre Foley	Quebec city, Canada
9/27/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis media lab Bought a home theater system from two guys in a white van. they pretended they had 5 to deliver and received 8, so they'd sell the three they had at low price.
Junior	Hamilton, Canada
9/26/2008 Product or Service Involved: Di Vinci DV 505 OK so i bought this system as well!would not budge from 100$he was asking 800$ a part from it being a shi!!y system does it work and anyone haveing probs with it?
Anonymous	Toronto, ON, Canada
9/25/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci IDF-40 I was in the beer store parking lot. Two guys drove up saying they need to get rid of some speakers. They were returning to their boss from the factory and they accidentally gave them more systems than necessary. They wanted to sell some before returning to him. It was a pretty believable story. I also saw the stickers and magazine ad where the price was $3200.00 I thought, hey, this is a pretty wild deal. I paid $300, came home, went to search the product on google and found this site! I may be able to get their license plate # though and take em down.
TAM	Coquitlam, BC , Canada
9/25/2008 I was in a strip mall when a White SUV, with Alberta plates tried to pitch me in Coquitlam,BC Two white males, driver short hair passenger had shades on. $800 offer etc. I was not fooled and told them It was a scam. Be aware if it's toooooooooo good to be true.
K	Calgary, Canada
9/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross OR860 Prodigy Series speakers Wow, wish I read more scam sights, seems like I fell for an old one. Same M.O., three guys in a new Denali, (champagne colour). First guy with brown hair and goatee, (to hide chronic herpes scarring likely), talks a mile a minute about not wanting the boss to cash in on an over stock. I tell him I've only got $200, and he gets back in his truck. Second guy, blond hair glasses, probably has syphillis),walks out and says his friend is too greedy and we strike a deal at $240. Loads the crap into my truck, follows me to the atm and counts the $ and leaves. Live & learn, I've got the plate # and the safeway provided a decent security cam picture of the creep beside me at the atm. Won't say what I'll do when I find 'em again, but it will be handled in true rig worker fashion. Looks like its come to Calgary folks, hopefully a few will read this before they're approached...and leave a decent sized boot print on their back pockets. Castleridge NE Safeway parking lot.
Noone's Fool	southern ontario, Canada
9/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: pro-line,grafdale these dudes are scam artists and brag about it too. i know some and i think they are the scum of the earth. they buy these speakers for fifty bucks a piece, show the public a frauded up,laminated,false advertisement stating these pieces of garbage are worth $3000.00 plus.These speakers are made in a shady basement or warehouse with cheap supplies.They do not have the proper "magnets" in them (so i've been told, i'm no audio tech), and you do run the risk of blowing any system you hook them up too. they get away with this due to the "buyer beware" concept.they are all supposed to be carrying a peddler liscence in order to travel from city to city doing this, but 99.9% don't have one.this is the only crime you can book them on, and they all know this, they are happy to take the ticket and even show up to court as the courts do absolutely nothing.it is sickening to know these guys, on a daily basis, fraud hard working individuals out of their money. They even laugh about these people calling them suckers and idiots.the police do do nothing,as they are breaking no laws other than not having a peddler's liscense.start phoning your MP, writing your government officials and express your views, nothing will change unless we get together and pressure these people.it is a crime, and a serious one too.these guys do this everyday to at least 5 people a day,i know for a fact.some of these men have been in your house to deliver these speakers, they've taken your child's food money,your credit card money,your rent.now it's time to take something from them,take the streets and parking lots back.starve these leaches,let's dry them up.write or phone your government rep.,not once,twice! phone your local radio station and put a warning out that these goofs are in your city.take action because the police won't. help stop these maggot soul-filled bastards from feeding.we can do it.
Former DELL Employee	Nepean, Canada
9/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-7010 I feel so retarded. Its after 4:30 pm EDT. I'm leaving the ITO 2.0 (Information Technology Orientation) after a long day of studying CompTIA A+. I leave the building and head towards my car. All of a sudden, this bastard in a blue van pulls and gives his crappy story. A well being individual - I listen. He presents me with a copy of a magazine showcasing the DiVinci DV-7010 model for $3129. I tell the guy (he's white - early 20s) that I don't need the speakers. I should have struck with that story, but like a fool I didn't. I guess that in my nature. Oh and truth be told, I'm a Pisces (zodiac sign). At the core we Pisces always get hurt. I only bought the speakers to get the guy off my back. I paid $400 CAD. The guy replied in a excited tone that he will offer me a beer the next time I see me. RIGHT! When pigs fly you bastard. Plus I don't drink. But in the end I was the one that got screwed. I'm not even working at the moment. Good thing I not in any serious financial danager. After the event, I phoned my friend and offered him to buy the speakers off me. He said that he never heard of DiVinci. Said that the website looked real. I then phoned my other friend and he said that I should sell the items on classified websites such as KiJiJi.ca. When I did a search that was when I found out about this scam and I was pissed. $400 - gone!!! Like that!!! Fucked up the ass!!! Pardon my language. Because of the situation, I spoke with my friend and offered to show the speakers to him. He said that I should show them to my parents, but after reading what these electronics do to sound systems, I don't think that isn't a good idea. I learned my lesson. I was thinking of offering these speakers as a gift for my friend's wedding next month. But I couldn't screw him over by giving him crappy electronics. Is there really a way to get your money back? Please share your comments.
Snoop	Etobicoke, Canada
9/18/2008 Product or Service Involved: 5.1 Home Theater Di Vinci I met them today at Islington and Rexdale coming out of Walmart. This time they were operating Black Cadilac Escalade SUV. Well they offered me a $3900 home theater system for $800. I am from the streets and don't get me wrong I ain't going to allow a sucker fool me. I bought the speakers for $100 and going to enjoy what I'm going to do with them. So heads up people, these guys are around in Toronto and now they have purchased more classy vehicle to fool you with a scam. Cheers,
Joanne Montreuil	Aumond , Canada
9/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 6.1 surround system In new box with full graphics and Divinci logo, inside individually packaged and boxes set of 6 speakers, marked $2000 on side, but asking $300. for his last 6 boxes. He was at a gas station and the man was in a white suv. My husband pretty excited about getting a deal, so he bought one for him and one for his brother. Ouch! He is too upset to get them out of the box after I found them on the internet on ebay for even less, and then I just found the white van scam...he was a victum.
Jon	Windsor, Canada
9/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: Davinci 6.1 This jerk caught me in the university parking lot. I've got his name and his facebook found. His name is Chris markham and he was driving a white GMC denali. drop me an email @ j_2-the_s@Hotmail.com if you know anything about this guy because I'm going after him, if I cant get the government to do anything I'm going to cause him 260$ damage to make up for what I've lost, maybe more. he was around 6'ish and weighs probably 160bls plus,he was wearing blue trackpants and had an htc brand phone. This asshole preys on students! they already dont have enough money as it is and I'm not going to let him get away with it.
David	Ottawa, Canada
9/16/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci D-7 Home Theatre Typical white van scam read about on this site. Two guys rolled up in a fluster claiming to have excess speakers which their boss doesn't know about. Need to unload and make profit. Claiming to need money so they can rent hotel room and stash the rest of them. Claiming merchandise value of 3300$, offering to sell for 400$. Great con man, turned my skepticism into opportunity. Currently looking for warehouse location as I hear some people have had success returning the the warehouse with some persistent waiting. Have not yet checked the quality of the system. Didn't acquire any sort of receipt or name. Was approached at Centrum mall in Kanata (Ottawa). If anyone has information on the warehouse location please try to connect with me ASAP so I can return. (dapike624@hotmail.com) Two guys were white, between 20-25. Clever fuckers.
otis	Vancouver, Canada
9/13/2008 Product or Service Involved: speakers These guys are legitimate salesman -- the brilliance of the scam is that they are merely pretending they are not! But therein lies your salvation -- you can RETURN the SPEAKERS. I did it for my brother after he got suckered by same guys I had already bought from. But I had done my research into consumer law. I told my incredulous bro I would return them. I took them right back to the warehouse (address on receipt) -- where they promptly and politely returned my (brother's) money.
Richard Young	London, Canada
9/13/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 6.1 While driving down oxford a guy started yelling at me through his window. I thought he was going to tell me something was wrong with my car but started babbling about a free stereo system. He told me to follow him around the corner. He turned right and I ditched him. However at the next stop light he caught up with me and was yelling some more stuff. This time I said, ok whats the deal, i was dumb enough to actually check it out. He shows me a bunch of boxes in the back of his black SUV, a few are different configurations (however all divinci). Shows me the msrp, the e-gear magazine, his delivery order, says he works for BOSS. You know the same old story, asks you to buy him beers at the bar sometime. Anyways even with all the red flags and the fact I didn't need the damn speakers, I shelled out the cash. I should have never got out of my car, I've never been good with sales people. Especially the ones who all seem to go to the same Con College. They are targeting us and playing on your cognitive dissonance. The term "if it seems too good to be true, then it probably is" went thru my head constantly. But there is that conflicting thought in your head that nobody would really be sick enough to act out a situation to screw you like that. Bottom line is you make money doing what your good at and so do they. And if you fell for it your weak minded and corrupt and hopefully learned an expensive lesson.
Birthday Boy	Toronto, Canada
9/12/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Home Theater Never Ever Ever thought I would get scammed by these guys but I had just came out of the bank on my birthday when this guy comes up to me with a deal I could not refuse.... WoW $3600 system for $300...WoW. The only word I can use to discribe the speakers, amp, remote, batteries, and manual is GARBAGE. Please Please if you see one of these guys coming toward you dont walk RUN the other way and save yourself some aggrivation
Melinda	Hamilton, Canada
9/11/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 6.1 I belive that this Scam had just happened to me i was leaving work two guys told me that there boss had order two of these setsand the at the store kid loaded on three and they had to sell quick!! I Only gave them $220 for the speaker that were priced $1999 i also got the lincense plate of the maroon nissan murano they where driving should i call the police???
Vancouver Guy	Vancouver, Canada
9/10/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 7.1 Channel 2200watt Surround Paid guy $1000 for supposedly $3600 speakers when he pulled up to me in Stanley park. Showed me "Maxim" article, but who knows if that was legit or not, with the same speakers and MSRP. I was drunk, can you blame me? (of course, I was with two friends and the sober one was driving ;) Also have BC Canada license plate number: 356 JLV (new grey tahoe) I guess that means it's in Vancouver as well now, add it to the list!
Jake Danakovariva	Barrie , Canada
9/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: Davinci D7 I was aprouched outside of my school by two young men, I forget their names. I was asked if I would like to buy a Davinci D7 for 1100 dollars, they had told me its worth over 3000 dollars and that I am getting a great deal. They asked me how much CASH I can give to them, I eventaully was asked to hop into the car and go with them to my bank. My bank is Toronto Diminion Bank of Canada, I told them I was having second thoughts. They started getting frustrated and one of them men had took out a cigrette and started to smoke it. They told me before that they were delivering the items from the factory to their boss and had only 10 minutes with me to sell it before they had to leave. They topld me also that they had a incounter with another man and spoke with him trying to sell the speakers to them for 800 dollars but wasnt good enough for the shady men. I had started to get suspicious because by then I had gotten the main price down to 600 dollars...then to 400 dollars...then to 200 dollars and my ipod lol. I had told them no I will not buy it because I sorta didnt have any money at all but was going to ask somone else >.<;...I then told them i aint willing and they started to bring up the point I did say cash.but was messing with their heads..then they got a phone call and they were told they had to pay something...I said NO! I will not take it..they said ok whatever and took their buisness down the road after I told them that their is a college down the road. I went inside after that..slightly shooken
David Blanchet	St-Jean Chrysostome, Canada
9/2/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci D-7 Got mine for 300$ ... two fuckers at the gaz station ... get them before I do , I won't be nice "/%%/?$%?&$&%?&$/$$!/$%?&&(*
Bonnie	Guelph ,ON, Canada
8/28/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis g-506 Two guys in a white SUV claiming of a overstock of units showing me a purchase order and how many they were supposed to have. Than pull out a catalogue to show you the system and the retail price which is also on the box. All looks authentic than claim they just want some partying money and don't want their boss to just restock the system and pocket the money himself and they would take it but they are from pickerton and they have to meet their boss in a couple of minutes. They offer to drive you to an ATM or follow you to get the money. Even have a website which looks authentic.
Alex Cooper	Brighton, Canada
8/25/2008 Product or Service Involved: grafdale 400 watt pro series Same as the story below this one! 2 white guys approached me in the car wash and showed me these speakers saying i could buy them alot cheaper than what they were worth. I ended up buying them for $310 but the brocheur the showed me said they were worth $2700. The actual price of the speakers are only 250 brand new for 2 of them. Watch out for these 2 men! They looked to be drugged out! Stupid of me to fall for it!
kimberly	vancouver, Canada
8/21/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci D-7 5.1 we got scammed today by the two white guys who drove a Black van by joyce sky train station area. it is a similar situation of the other. My friend and i both got scammed. One of the guy was silent sitting in the front seat, and the driver who was stoned and talked alot was the one who got us stopped and listened to his crap about selling these stereo systems. Im not sure why we felt for it. VERY very stupid of us. i hope nobody would scammed in the future by these two pot heads.
CLH	Ancaster, Canada
8/15/2008 Product or Service Involved: Da Vinci 5.1 Won't go into the details as it's the same scam that's been listed a million times. My boyfriend got scammed in the Wal-Mart parking lot on Wilson Street by two pieces of sht in a Jeep Patriot (probably a rental). They got him for $400 (if I was with him it wouldn't have happened but it was a lesson he had to learn on his own - DON'T BUY SHT OUT OF THE BACK OF A VAN EVER!!!!) It's too bad that these scum of the earth asholes seem to have the cops in their back pocket too as they will never do anything about these creeps. My advice - if you see this scam being run, call them out on it in front of everyone as loudly as you can and then spit in their faces because that's what people like that deserve. I'm glad they weren't there when my boyfriend went back to find them because he'd be in jail for beating the sht out of them FOR SURE. (I'm not saying you should but hey - karma's karma!)
John	kitchener, Canada
8/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs G 506 Approached by 2 younger white males, flagged me down while driving through plaza, near Canada Trust bank. Were driving a truck and same story as before that the inventory over stocked some speakers and they wanted to get rid of them in a hurry because they had to meet their boss in 15 minutes, otherwise he would pocket the home theatre system for himself. Even said they would take $ for a hotel just so they can have somewhere to store these systems. First driver came out and showed me a pretty impressive magazine which verified a MRSP value of $3,999 for Genesis Media Labs G 506 then told me they would take my daily ATM cash limit, then offered $800, told them I already have a system at home and started walking away then the passenger came out and offered $600, he said you don't look like a stupid guy, so just look at them. So I got him to open the box of course, I saw equipment that matched the magazine and profesionally looking packaging, so I gave them $400, he then said give me another couple hundred and I'll give you another one, I chose not to take that offer. They then said that if they ever see me again I owe them a couple of beers. I know I was an idiot, but dam these fags obviously have some big timmers backing them up, with ads in magazines and good packaging, even the tape on the box says genesis media labs on it, so that's what got me. They even have a website, so what is going these days. Anyways these guys are playing a dangerous game because sure I got punked but I hate when people lie to me, I remember their faces cleary and trust me I got my boys on the look out for these con men, if any of you punks are reading this I want a refund and trust me it would be wise!!!!!! It's a shame that these fags can go home a live with themselves.
Toronto	North York (Toronto), Canada
8/8/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-505 LICENCE PLATE (RANGE ROVER - WHITE): BDXL 201 Driving along Steeles Ave W. heading east, 1 km past Keele St. a WHITE - RANGE ROVER - advised me to pull over and check out a CRAZY DEAL. Two males - white and brown. Brown male took the role of a salesperson. Brown male - very short hair, bracelet on left hand (apparently from a temple in India). White male - Light colour longer hair, light colour beard. No accent. "We work in a warehouse and we were OVERLOADED with these crazy speakers!!!" Seemed a bit too excited and hyper. "We are excited we finally got to drive our boss's van". Pulled out a random magazine that looked 100% real and showed a market price of around $2500. Bargained down to $500, went into the closest TD Bank and paid in full. Piece of advice, if you are strong about a product, at least open it completely and look at the quality of the speaker. Instead of screws around the subwoofer it had particles of glue. LICENCE PLATE (RANGE ROVER - WHITE): BDXL 201 If anyone has any information such as phone numbers, or address, please be kind to share. I can be reached at canadiantattoo@gmail.com
John	Vaughn, Canada
8/7/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-606 A guy named Brian approached us at Vaughn Mills in a white chrysler PT Cruiser, showed me a magazine with the HT system and i fell for it, luckily i only gave $247.... I decided to look it up befor i opened it and i find all these scam threads, i should of known, i never heard of a Divinci before... Anyway hopefully noone else will fall for it.
Ty and Meg	Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
8/5/2008 My husband just got burned by the SAME scam. He was shopping at the best buy on the west end.. and got aproched by two white males.. said the same story they had told everyone else.. Asked him how much he would pay for a amazing soround sound. My husband said no more then 500. He said he wanted 1000 but would take it. Long story short, he came hoem to see if it was really worth 4000 liek he said.. and this is what i found :(
Jim Bob	Sherwood Park, Canada
8/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci I was approached in Rogers Video Parking Lot. Scam went off just as I've now read about. Speakers are awesome. Worth 3600. blah blah blah. Their shit, don't get screwed I'm such a nob
???	hamilton, Canada
8/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: di vinci 607 I GOOGLE THE ITEM AND IT CAME TO THIS....2 WHITE GUYS ONE WAS REALLY ALL HYPER LIKE DUDE! SAYIN THAT THEY BOSS DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THIS EXTRA SHIPMENT THAT THEY HAD AND THAT THEY WANTED TO GET RID OF IT..TRIED IT OUT IT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD THO...REALLY CLEARED///PAID $350...SHOULD I CALL POLICE CAUSE I HAVE ONE OF THERE NUMBERS..
Shannon	Milton, Canada
7/31/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs IM66 Digital Fusion Guy named Patrick stopped me at a gas station in Milton off the 312 exit off the 401 - near Campbellville Road. He said he had home theatre systems - he had an extra system that was overshipped to him and he hates his boss, he makes nothing and he wanted to get rid of it before he met his boss in a few mins. He showed me a glossy book where the speakers were worth over $5300. I was wary, should have went with my gutt...but didn't. He talked me into the "deal" and I ended up giving him $400. He said $600 but luckily I have put a $400 dollar limit on my bank account. He said he'd contact me or I was to contact him to give him the rest of the $$. I have his phone number and when I call it it's AC/DC audio. The number is 647-654-3255. I have called but he doesn't answer. I read about this scam when I got home. I haven't opened the boxes, but they are sealed and look authentic...I guess I had "SUCKER" written on my forehead....I texted him today and told him that I was aware the speaker sale was a scam and I am giving his # and information to the police. He was in a white cadillac SUV. BEWARE!
Tommy Maxwell	London,, Canada
7/29/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis G-506 Location: Masonville Mall parking lot, North London Two 18-19 year olds, well dressed, nice sunglasses, watches, PDA's etc came up to me in a late model Acura MDX while I was walking out of the lot to my car. We talked for 20mins and they finally convinced me to buy a system for $300 after asking like $1000. They had a brochure with an add for the system, matching Tshirts, etc. I HAVE CELL NUMBER, LICENSE PLATE #, and a NAME. Any comments on to what I should do? They were just two kids from the suburbs driving their moms Acura.
Melissa	London, Canada
7/24/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci DV 505 Divinci Innovative sound DV 505 speaker stero system, my husband got conned at the Canadian Tire parking lot, I am not impressed :P
dayo	toronto, Canada
7/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: davinci i paid 240 for that davici 5.1 dv 606. I havent tried it to see if it works or not. I met the guy in a red jeep nitro on finch and islington plaza. he was asking for a 1000 but haggle him down to 300.then to 240. i didnt want to buy it but it seem like a good deal.after reading the stuff on here. I knew i've been scamed too.my brother told me the guy got arrested last week.
Justin	Aylmer, Canada
7/19/2008 Product or Service Involved: not sure 2 guys showed up in a van as I drove in my parking lot at home and offered me the system. The driver said how much do you want to pay, I didnt even offer him a dollar. First of all, If you never heard of a brand name like Da vinci, it'S probably garbage. so I told the guy to get the hell out of here... at first I thought they were cops, but not the brightest and after words I new they were even srupider criminals so played with them a bit and made them give me a system for free.so they gor Fucked on this one.
Rufino	Brampton, Ontario, Canada
7/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: proline acoustics pa 1500 same story as everyone it happened on Queen and 410 at the parking lot outside td bank paid $200 but this is not the first time i got offered this...in the past. 2 times i got offered these things but this time i actually had money in my pocket cuz i jus got out of the bank..
Julian	Toronto, Canada
7/12/2008 Product or Service Involved: divinci dv-607 I was aproached by a van...a and oferred me a home theatre system very cheap because he has an extra one in her van due to a mistske in the delivery..i paid him $400.00 dolars... he went with me to cash the check....then i tried to sell the system in craiglist and somebody send me a e-mail telling me to stop ripping off people... i did not understand... until this person tell me about the white van speaker scam...
Carolyn	Etobicoke, Canada
7/11/2008 Product or Service Involved: Davinci D7 Same story, happened about an hour ago, got me at a light in the Lakeshore and Royal York area. Two young white guys, black SUV very friendly, one said his name was Brad, showed me the receipt, warehouse error, mean boss, wanted the money for a few beers etc. etc, I gave them $200...blah. They had another unit in the truck, will probably get someone else in this area tonight.
Tom	Burlington, Canada
7/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: De Vinci My experience is almost exactly similar to Bob's. I paid an embarrassing amount of money for a box of equipment labelled $3200 (I paid much less than that, but still too much apparently), to a couple of guys who drove up to me in the FutureShop/Staples parking lot on Guelph line. Don't know what I was thinking. Just saw the system, saw the price, (and the driver even suggested I could make a profit on E-Bay) and thought "What the hell?" I have yet to test the system. If it works, then at least it won't be a total loss! (And yes, he also suggested I make up the difference in beer one day.
Bas	Newmarket, Canada
7/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-606 As I was approaching my car at the parking lot of Upper Canada Mall in Newmarket, I was approached by 2 Young men driving a late model Jeep Nitro or a similar Jeep.... the person who did the talking told me that the shipping people made a mistake and loaded an extra unit to the car they were supposed to install 1 but ended up with 2, and they are willing to get rid of it really cheap...to make a long story short I paid $300 for it, but as soon as i started driving i felt a little suspicious and as soon as arrived home, I went online and did my research only to discover how stupid i was!!!
Bob	Oakville, Canada
7/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci D7 In a parking lot at Dorval and N. Service Rd. Approached by 3 young guys in Black SUV with 4 systems in the back. Said the loading guys loaded an extra one by mistake. Showed me the Bill or Lading. MSRP was $3200. Asked what I would give him and his buddy for beer money. Paid $300, intending to sell them for a profit. LOL Brought it home, hooked it up. Sounds pretty good. Went on-line to see what I could sell them for. Saw this site and feel pretty stupid. BUT...I'm clearly not alone, so that makes me feel a bit better. And they really don't sound too bad. I realize now I overpaid, but life lesson learned.
Mike	Edmonton, Canada
7/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Speakers Was at West Edmonton Mall and approached while driving by a guy and his gf or something in a nice new SUV(didn't remember the model but looked expensive). He claimed to be a deliverer and that someone put extra units on. He wanted 600 I told him 250 was about to drive off he changed his mind said ok.
me three	edmonton, Canada
6/30/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci IDF 50 Got hit late afternoon with the same story of fucking over boss by one white guy driving rental car at 142st n' stony plain. Showed what looked like valid proof of purchase for similar products he purchased and cockamany story bout other 2 being error of warehouse distribution n' shit. dished out $CN800 for 2 sys, 1 4 me, other a gift for my g-friend n' boy did i not get the fucking shock of ma lyfe to find out how shittingly easy i've been scamed.
Peter	Etobicoke, Canada
6/27/2008 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci driving up Islington after getting of the QEW. got flagged down. its terrifying how similar my experience was to those above dished 360$. i feel retarded. it was a 360$ lesson in humility. my only concern is that all the people reading this forum have probably been hit up from the scam, so we're not protecting the people that don't know any better. I'm a student and don't make a tonne of money, but a decent amount. So the opportunity of flipping it on ebay sounded like too good an opportunity to pass up. There was one medium height white guy who did all the talking and a black guy who sat in a black SUV, i think Honda, but i'm not good with cars.
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