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javier	naples, Florida
7/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: wahl dorf two guys in a expedition gold color came up to me at 7eleven on pineridge rd. and yahl st.said hey igot this deal for 800 bucks i told them show me they showed me a couple of systems i told them 100 they said 150 so i said ok what the heck he told me wireless.bullshit fucker got me burn in hell asshole..LOL!!!! well there u go be careful
Will	None, Florida
7/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: Epic 5.1 surround sound Came to Panama City Fl, to see a friend. She told me about how she had this HES (Epic) that she needed hooked up. So I looked at it and seen the MSRP was $3,995.00. I asked her where she got it from, and she said that she was at a store getting gas. When 2 men with the same story as the rest, offered to sell it to her for a deal. Well then we know the rest. I am here reporting it so that others know that they were here in Panama City,Fl as well. I sure hope that i run across these MOTHERF**KERS one day... That will be their ASS!!!
bassman1	Orlando, Florida
7/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: no product invloved I Live in the area of Orlando, FL and I haven't found these jerks and believe, it won't be pretty as it turn out that I'm a pro sound Eng and college trained musician. For sure, the product is a cheap knock-off item from some rid-forsaken Asian country. My goodness, I want to find or be found by these twats anytime around. They will have the surprise of their lifetimes! thanks for your website. It's really educating about these scams and as the economy tanks, guys like the ones described here, will spring like bad grass in summertime with a hot sun over your head so watch out.
Jon Luc	Tampa, Florida
6/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross OR880 well, they are rolling in Tampa, but the 2008 mag shows a 2500 dollar system.. Well, so what, buy yours on ebay for cheep.. tried to sell the OR 860 and 880 to me. I took two for 500 bucks, if they are good and work good for me if they are broken or alt. product, too bad so sad, thought I would get a wireless deal.. oh well.. The same story as well, two guys selling product cause client ordered more than they wanted.. lol.. mine will be up on ebay for 250 a pop.. lol
Liz Johnson	Tampa, Florida
6/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: Wahldorf Home theatre system Well today me and my boyfriend were driving around and got caught by a man at the red light...looked as if though he needed directions so I rolled my window down and he stated, "hey I'm selling this home theatre system." He pulled up in a navy blue van and his so called assistant which looked like he was on speed standing on his tipy toes was the talker the driver the negitiator of course I felt something was wrong but it was cheap he tried to sell us the speaker for $2000.00 I was like yea ok you crazy dude...so anyways being that I followed my boyfriend and not my instinct I gave the punk $200.00 bucks...and while trying to pull up the site on my phone I couldn't find info on the speakers. Sadly we bought them anyway and now we short $200.00....oh but they will get caught and pay back way more than those $200 bucks that we lost.
Melissa	Lakeland, Florida
6/8/2010 Product or Service Involved: Wahl Dorf My dad just got taken by these guys in Lakeland, he was coming out of Ruby Tuesdays and two guys in a van approached him. He offered $200 and they sold for $250. So my question is, do they work are they any good and from what I am reading he needs an amplifier to make it work.. which is probably more than the speakers right?? Thanks for any info!
Jason	Meritt Island, Florida
6/6/2010 Product or Service Involved: WahlDorf Home Theater WD-305HT I was leaving Sonny's BBQ and 2 guys came up and asked me if i wanted to buy the system. I needed one so i was intested same thing though over shipment on a house they were doing they were trying to make some extra money no big deal I helped them out gave them 250.00 for it i checked it out before i bought it they have a website for these speakers. it is www.wahldorfhometheater.com. I have yet to hook them up. the box says wireless but they arent thats the only thing i see wrong with them that i was lied to about. Other then that I am happy with having them so far. Honestly who would spend 2000.00 on a speaker system everyone should know that everyone is going to try to make money on everything look at all the car dealerships. who pays exactly what the sticker price is on the window? NO ONE. you can hardly find a good home theater system for less then 300.00. If you feel like you got scammed thats your deal cause you can basically offer these guys nothing and walk away with a decent system.
Speaker Sale Buster	Melbourne, Florida
5/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Epic 600 Lol, A loser in a white van approached me and my friend and started his song and dance. It was the same line about having an extra speaker set that was in his van. I turned to my passenger and immediately told him that this guy is running a scam and that I was going to indulge his craft. I listened to this garbage and he showed me his little "professional" industry magazine showing the $3699.00 list price as if that was to impress me. He then opened up the van door to show the goods and stategically place the "Price Tag" on the box where I could see it there as well. Wow, is this where I'm supposed to be "Super Impressed." Lol....... I did not ask him how much he was looking for since I was not interested.--The boxes and pictures looked real cheap--- He told me he would give them to me at a great price. I asked him to define great price and he asked me for $600. Wow!!! A savings of $3100. How could I pass this up??? Well I passed. And said that I have no need for speakers. And started to turn away when he said that he could follow me to the ATM and that he would install them at my house. I asked him for a cell number to set up the tranaction and he told that the speakers would be gone in the next 15 minutes so he would not have them to sell to me then so he would not give me his number. I told him that since he could sell them in 15 minutes that he did not really need my business. HaHa... But before I could get into my car he dropped his price and I said "don't loose money on me when you can sell them 15 minutes later at your asking price. Who would drop there price by over $300 if they "can sell them 15 minutes later at thier asking price." That just doesn't make "cents". Haha, What a loser of a business person. Boy, that sure was fun jerking this guys chain a bit. I got into my car and explained to my friend about the scam and that I would look it up on google and here it is. Scams galore!! I wish I got his tag number and reported it. Oh well. I'll be on the look out for him next time and I'll be prepared to offer him $50 since the speakers happened to be an "extra set that was free". How can you turn down free money for a free product? This occured in Florida.
Anne	Vero Beach, Florida
5/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Waldorf Ok my fiance and I were just hit by these two guys, same M.O. coming out of the Shell gas station on US 1, near Wabasso. They did the same BS and unfortunately due to the NEW quality and opening of the box, along w/ showing all parts we were suckered....$300. He did also try to get us to buy more things claiming "you know you have a couple hundred more lying around"...but that was enough for us.... Now we are home investigating, as we were going to hook it up and find this scam....the question we have is... DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS WRONG W/ THE SYSTEM??? WHAT EXACTLY IS MISSING OTHER THAN THE AMPLIFIER??? I'M QUESTIONING THIS BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE BOX (PER DIRECTIONS IS THERE) SO CURIOUS AS TO WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE PURCHASED OR IF THE CONTENTS THEMSELVES ARE FAULTY???? PISSED OFF AND CURIOUS ...
Denis	Fort Lauderdale, Florida
5/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Wahldorf Got me at 7-eleven on SR-84. Had some doubts, but the 1999$ MSRP did the job. 200 + 20 for beer. Going to hook'em up and see if they work. There's warranty slip inside box. Did anyone try to go through warranty process? After all, they got contact info on the website: http://wahldorfhometheater.com/contactus.html
Rod	Miami, Florida
5/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: Protechnik Home Theater 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers Same 'ol story, this time in Miami, Fl. I was approached by these guys at a shell gas station on W Flagler st. and 87th ave. Worst part is that I got ripped off on my birthday, AND I gave them a 6 pack of beer just cause I felt like being nice. I told them I was low on cash so they said they'd give me the complete system for whatever I had. I had just cashed a check from my job so I had around $170, all of which wound up in their pockets for a sound system that doesn't even come with the proper cables, not that the "wireless" speakers even HAVE inputs! Even the manual is shady, full of stupid gramatical and spelling errors like "week signal" instead of "weak" in the troubleshooting section. Man, I just feel USED as fuck. They even had the fucking balls to wish me a happy birthday and acted as if they were doing me a favor. If I ever see these two guys again I'm letting vigilante justice handle things. If you assholes happen to be reading this, pray to your blue eyed christ that I never find you again, because I promise to beat the everliving shit out of you with my brother's police baton.
Fred	Melbourne, Florida
5/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: Epic-600 Professional Home Theater System Melbourne Florida Van pulled up beside me with guys yelling and screaming about the great deal they could give me for a full home audio system. i took the bait to see what they had. they gave me song and dance about the supplied supplying the wrong amount of equipment and they wanted to sell them to me for a quick buck $400 to be exact. they opened the boxes and showed me that they were the real thing ??? and i just happened to have cash in hand at this weak moment and paid them the $400, by the way they were saying someone was going to pay them $800 but was trying to write them a check and they would not go for that haaa haaa... they gave me a business card, the phone number checks out to be a Cell Phone funny business name dosen't check out in our county . i have not tried them out yet... feeling kinda dirty... feeling kinda taken - - Maybe. i was thinking about calling the police - - but what the heck - - i would probably get in trouble. . . . . Fred - - not my real name
matt	stuart area, Florida
5/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: not sure This is the 3rd time ive been approaced in my life, twice in orlando and now driving down I-95 stopping in the stuart area for gas at a bp. There where two guys in a gold ford explore trying to sell me spakers and i replied im not stupid this is the white van scam knowing from the first two times once being the first almost falling for it till i got in my car and drove off and when i got home did a little research and found out about it. once i said that he began talking crap circled around blocked my from getting in my truck and told me i didnt know shit and when i want to make six figures to come do what he is dooing and i laughed and said i suggest you leave before i call the police and he darted.
Mr. and Mrs. Scammed	Sarasota, Florida
5/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: Wahldorf 5.1 WD-305HT They are in Sarasota now. My dad was coming out of Home Depot and two guys in a brand new silver mini van approached him with a brochure showing $1,999.00 retail value and they were only asking a mere $700........He ended up getting them for $150.00. I wish I would have answered my phone when he called to let him know it was a scam. Now there is nothing we can do. Do these things even work or are they just plan old stolen. I dont know but people beware......they are everywhere!!
mr. fliberflabber	Bradenton, Florida
5/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Waldorf wd-305ht These boneheads tried to get me in Bradenton infront of the Micheal's store. I am a professional sound engineer and asked them what truck these dropped off. Oh NO mister I had some left over from an install. Anybody installing these whould have to be living in a trailer (single wide). I took my laptop and googled the speakers and found this site. They cussed me out and packed up. Where is a cop when you need one. I think they know that 5:00 is shift change on the force. Somebody bust these guys! They know nothing about anything except these are better than BOSE. IDIOTS.
JJ Smith	Merritt Island, Florida
5/9/2010 Product or Service Involved: Whaldorf Same story, smoothe talkers in a white van at Home Depot with "excess" inventory for a job they were on. Got me for $140 plus $20 for beer. I thought the whole thing was legit and listed them on Ebay. I couldn't understand why no one was bidding on them so I started digging and found "the white van scam". Looks like the Ebay crowd is a bit smarter than I am. I'm glad that no one bought them on EBay, I don't want people thinking that I'm running a scam!!!!
Emmy	Kendall, Florida
5/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: ProTechik Today I went to Bank of America on 13935 Southwest 88th Street Kendall FL. A white GMC pulls up next to my boyfriends car & was bragging to us about this Home Theater Sound System (ProTechnik) that are "worth" $3,500. Unfortunately they did great talking & convinced us to buy it for $200. & after the negotiation they had the guts to ask us for $20 to buy beer. Wow but the worst part about all this... I forgot my CAR keys in the back of there car. I went back to the bank to see if I can catch them on time but I was to late. So I went into Bank of America to tell them what happened & to see if they can go through the cameras to get the cars tag number BUT said I'm not the first person to tell them about this & that they are not able to look through the cameras?!?! Worst Tuesday ever let me tell you. But I'm not giving up on this, I will do something about this.
supaflytnt	Destin , Florida
5/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: acoustic lab technologies pro series 710 same as the rest but I hooked these up and they sounded great! it 2010 now and no issues, so I don't knw what everyone is bitching about. They have great sound nice bass response as well. I bought them so I wasn't scammed I think I got a deal really! 100.00 each not too shabby. I'll bet thru my system you won't stand next to them at 3/4 volume! Meh I got sound !!!
victims daughter	okeechobee, Florida
5/1/2010 Product or Service Involved: WahlDorf WD-305HT my father was approached by 2 young, white men in a white mini-van. They showed him a catalog with these speakers at a retail price of $2000. (same story about having left-overs from a job they had just finished...)they got him for $300. He gave them to me last night, they are in the box in my living room. there ARE speakers, and speaker wire, everything is packaged nicely, looks legit, but we have to purchase an amplifier prior to hooking it up. so, i am not sure if they actually work or not. My boyfriend said he was also approached by the same guys at a gas station that same afternoon, and just blew them off. My father said he later saw them at a car wash in the middle of town, and pulled in (was going to inquire about getting money back, and returning the speakers ....)they spotted him pulling into the parking lot and jumped into their vehicle and left. he followed them, trying to read a LP#, but got caught by the redlight, and the bad guys got away!!
Bill	None, Florida
4/27/2010 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik speaker system Same story new city, chevy suburban w NY license plates at a shell gas station, showed me page in audio mag. displaying the PT-325 speakers and PT310A receiver. Also showed me the bar code w MSRP of $3599 on it. 2 young white males. truck filled with items...got me for $200.00.
Tampa	None, Florida
4/27/2010 Product or Service Involved: Protechnik They are still at it. Same guys, white Suburban. Retail price $3500. I gave them $100. They work, they just suck. I don't feel to bad as I can probably use them somewhere. These guys are confident and good at what they do. But they will go down. Sounds like plenty of witnesses if they do get caught.
bob	yeehaw junction, Florida
4/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik At gas station, white Chevy SUV,2 young clean cut white men, said they were doing installation for a Dr. Salinger in Bradenton, said they were from Sunrise. I was taken for $200. He asked mne for $20 for beer as I left. At least I didn't go for that.
John	Lake City FL, Florida
4/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: iCinema Home theater systems Just got done talking with a guy who pulled up in a convertible mustang with 3 iCinema Home Theater systems in his car, had the exact same story as everyone else here, extra inventory, double shipment, blah blah blah. Had a cell phone with eBay pulled up to show me the system on there with a price over 1000.00 bucks. Sais he would take the best offer. I immediatley knew something was up, googled this page right in front of him and he took the hell off, now heres where I am confused. Are these boxes empty? I hear people saying they got scammed but no one is reporting about whats in the box. "Whats in the box, whats in the box!?!?" (in my best Brad Pitt impersonation) Just curious, if you bought one for $100 bucks then you couldnt have gotten ripped off that bad if it has a working Surround Sound system in it right? Probably knock off junk but any surround system is gonna be more than 100 bucks isnt it?Anyway, the guy claimed he owned Jacksonville Sound and Communications but I knew he was lying, driving a beat up ass V6 Mustang convertible with a primer paintjob. If it looks to good to be real folks it usually is, next time you get that tingly feeling when your offered something you think is too good to be true, buy some time and google the product or call the cops, nothing more satisfying than watching someone who just tried to rip you off go to jail.
Dummy in North Miami Beach, Florida	None, Florida
4/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Protechnik Theater System Hubby just came back from the WalMart SuperCenter and was had by two white males in a Silver Grey SUV with offer of the big screen for only $500. They tried him for the theater system for $500 but then when he told them he only had $100 they took it. We don't even want to open the box now. It's only $100, is it at least worth that much, or is the scam its not worth even 1/2 that and there are rocks inside the sealed box with the MSRP of $almost 3000.00. Hubby wants to sell it to someone else and I don't feel he should, then he would be ripping someone else off now.
mike	bonita springs, Florida
4/22/2010 Product or Service Involved: divinci in the home depot parking lot on bonita beach road. white suv. only got it for 100.00 so not much lost. will probably be okay for the back porch.
Jay	Land O Lakes, Florida
4/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: WahlDorf Home Theater Two young guys posing as installers flagged me down a the grocery store. I should have known better but I listened to their BS and thought that if they took a really low offer it would be worth it. They had about 6-8 "systems" in the van and all were in sealed boxes and the product looked good even though I had never heard of WhalDorf I figured most of our electroics come from Japan or China anyway. The "retail" value was supposedly $1399 and he was willing to sell them for $700. I offered him $200 and he took the deal. I figured that you can't get much of anything for $200 which is what it will probably turn out to be. I think these guys work for Alliance Distributors in Tampa off of Hillsborogh Ave. One person on this post suggests taking the product back and they will give you your money back. Don't fall for this scam.
Jesse	Tampa, Florida
4/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Wahldorf I was approached by 2 guys in a green minivan at a gas station. They followed the routine detailed in the scam description EXACTLY. Claimed to be delivering speakers with an inventory error. Then they opened the boxes in the back to show me the speakers and showed me a catalog with a MSRP of $1,999. The guy told me he would "shave off $1,300" and give them to me for $700. But if I didn't buy it then, he would have to return the "excess inventory" to his boss and he wouldn't be able to make anything off of it. Thank goodness I only had $100 in cash on me and he said that wasn't enough (he wanted $200 minimum...$100 per guy). He even said something about how they were "trying to go out" tonight (on a Wednesday). I came back to my computer and looked up the brand and found the scam listing websites. He even gave me his own phone number and responded to a text when I asked about the brand.
D Lewis	melbourne, Florida
4/8/2010 Product or Service Involved: olin ross Same old story but now in Florida.....Got me for $500 for 2 systems.....Made them hook them up to make sure they work.....Probably Chinese clones but mine work and sound really good.....not sure how long they will last lol.....I told the guy no like 3 times but he was really good......weird that a guy like that cant make a real living selling a true product. Must be the drugs that keeps him from being a man with some integrity. God bless his little soul.......
D	Vero Beach, Florida
3/30/2010 Product or Service Involved: Epic-600 Same story as everybody else. White van (I believe a Chevy Astra)at gas station. "Brian" even gave me his cell #321-474-1063 and said if I gave him a call on the weekend he would even help me set it up. I fell for it (stupid). Set it up myself and seemed to work fine turned it off and went to bed. 4 AM the thing turned on and scared the living s**t out of me. Be aware DON'T GET SCAMMED.
c note	Plantation, Florida
3/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM3 Digital Fusion The same thing happened like the rest. The guy was white around early 30s driving a white SUV. It was at the Bank of America right off of I595 and University. I really want to catch this dude! $300 gone. He was wearing a blue (uniform) and even gave me a warranty with a fake address for 5079 N. Dixie Highway and a website www.soundcreations.com These guys are gonna pay!
c note	Plantation, Florida
3/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax im3 digital fusion I actually went to a warehouse to kick some a$$ but I ended up finding the Olin Ross scammers instead. They are located on the corner of NW 44th and Hiatus Rd. in Suite 210 like the MMA guy said in a previous post. The manager was a nice dude but that was probably because his gut told him I was CCW. I'm still trying to find the Paramax guys. We can do it if enough people help out. One more time Olin Ross is at 4500 N. Hiatus Rd. Ste. 210 Sunrise, FL. I really wanted to kick some @$$! Btw I did end up seeing a young 20 something white male and what appeared to be his girlfriend pulling into the lot after 6PM so maybe someone else can get some justice.
billy blank	palm beach gardens, Florida
3/12/2010 Product or Service Involved: davinci surround sound Two white guys in a mall reddish co;ored suv waved me down leaving publix. Driver was bald with a cane, second guy was young looking and had tattoos. 100 bucks gone... for now.
Ron	None, Florida
3/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross, Davinci & Epic Sound These brands of white van sound systems keep showing up on the local Craigslist ads. All are still in the original boxes as usual and the seller/scammer always has a story about why it's still in the box. These scumbags have found Craigslist to be a good place to sell their junk speakers and surround systems.
Leeroy	Jacksonville, Florida
2/26/2010 Typical story. Was pumping gas when two guys pull up to the stall next to me in a white Chevrolet minivan. The driver rolls down the window and says "Hey man, do you want some speakers?" In my head I'm already thinking "Ok, something doesn't seem right" so I say "No thanks I'm good." Then he says "Check it out, my business sells electronics and my supplier sent me some extra items for free. My friends didn't need any of these so I figured since I got them for free, I might as well give them away." So he gets out and opens the back door shows me a large box with a home theater system in it. I didn't catch the name on the box though. At that point I'm already done pumping gas, so I'm about to get into my car, so I tell him "no thanks" again and he says "Oh alright, I'll just find someone else to give this to." I'm sure if I would have taken them they would have begged me for gas money or something afterward since they were "being so nice".
Rico	Winter Park, Florida
2/18/2010 Yeah, I had heard about this speaker scam a while ago. The same unshaven white guy comes up to me while I'm trying to get gas (the BP station on Aloma and Semoran). Told him I wasn't looking to buy cause I already had a system. (sigh) He persisted, so I looked. Well this one came with an iPod dock. Even showed me an invoice for $3,295. Claimed he was supposed to deliver 2 systems to some rich guy, but the customer only ordered one. I Asked him how much. He asked how much I had. To his dissatisfaction, he found that I was a broke full sail student. I must admit, if i had the money I might have caved in. Now what to do about these magazine selling, college bound teenagers who will win a magical trip if they reach their subscription goals. Next time I'll just take out my phone and dial Orlando's Finest
Rob	Plantation, Florida
2/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik speakers Same scam happened to me. Got stopped at the Chevron on Pine Island and Broward Blvd. They showed me a couple magazines that showed the speakers being worth over 3000. He went on to say they had one extra on their truck blah blah. well i paid 100 and ofcourse these speakers are complete garbage. My called my wife and told her that i had bought them and she told me it was a bad idea. hmmm maybe i should have listened. Well, I got fooled just like everyone else here ! He gave me his number 954-558-7883. he said his name is Johnny.
suv speaker salesman	jacksonville, Florida
2/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax p6 man do i feel stupid......wish i woulkd have stumbled across this website sooner as everyone else i guess.....well i was in jacksonville fl this weekend headed to daytona for the race and me and my wife were at the st johns town center when the infamous two guys in a white chevorlet suburban pulled up and had the deal of a lifetime.....a $2,199 home entertainment system.Said that they were going to instal a couple today and that an extra one had been loaded into there suv by mistake and that they would make me a deal and I eneded up coming off a $150 bucks....and like the others the box looks real and everything I havent even tried them out but after reading this whats the point.....enjoy that $150 cause it will be the last.....and as far as the girl who posted that there not all bad guys you are completely wrong they know what they are doing and yes I should have used better judgement but I can promise you that what they will get if i ever do cross paths with them agian will not be worth the $150 they got from me....so i hope you guys are reading this and laughing now cause I promise i will laugh last...I am going to research these guys and this company a little further and see what i can find out I am not the type to just drop it...they need to be stoped cause as no one does anything they are steady taking peoples hard earned money
Bighead	Miami, Florida
2/1/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax On January 19, 2010, two guys in an SUV hailed me aggressively as I was leaving OfficeMax at 12255 Biscayne Boulevard in Miami, Florida. They had four or five Paramax home theatre systems in the back of a big SUV. I told them I wasn't in the market for a home theatre system, and during the chit chat the guy that got out to show me the systems mentioned they were supposed to have installed them at Gulfstream Casino but that for some reason or another it was not what was ordered and the systems were being returned. He explained they were trying to get rid of them quickly and way below value because they were in a pinch and would lose money on them if they had to return them to the distributor. I was not very receptive, and he then showed me the price listing for the same system in what appeared to be a legitimate electronics magazine. I think the lesser system was listed for around $4,500. I said no way I could afford to help them out, but asked how much he was trying to get and he said $600. I was walking back to my truck to drive off and the driver got back in as if they were leaving, but the other guy then got out and asked how much I could pay. I told him $200 was the most I would pay, and he said "f-it, we're in a rush to be somewhere, I'm just gonna give it to you", and so we drove to the nearest atm and I gave them the cash after being assured it was a quality system. The speakers actually look like expensive speakers- big receiver, heavy, factory sealed boxes, 4 towers, and the boxes said digital audio surround and had all kinds of electronics seals and gold medals and so forth, so I thought I'd made a good deal. When I set them up, I saw there was no fiber optics in, and the sound quality is not very good. Also disappointing, they're not compatible with my lcd tv, which I was assured they would be. They look nice, though, and I have them hooked into my cable box via regular rca jacks and it approaches surround sound (circa 1992), though I know true digital surround is on another level. I think I basically got what I paid for, but was unhappy that I was fooled by the "white van" guys into thinking I was getting a deal on a high-end home theatre system, which they most assuredly are not. If not for the scam and thinking I was getting a great deal, I would've never purchased a home theatre system until the day I could afford something better than this shoddy setup. I submit this story because the sales tactic was fraudulent, and I can see how others could be easily fooled into paying way more than I did, in which case they would have been totally ripped off.
13th street walmart parking lot	gainesville, Florida
1/26/2010 Product or Service Involved: divinci surround was walking into walmart on 13th street in gainesville, florida and 2 guys in a white mini van rolled down the window and asked if i was interested in a surround sound system. same as the other posts, it has a $1,999 msrp tag on it and had magazine also. got $200 from me... i had the guy write me an invoice and got both names. claimed to work for Gold Coast Sound at jacksonville beach, Fl. saw id's for both guys and their names were John Jaghab cell# (904)537-5798. the other Brandon Traster. i hope nobody else gets scammed buying their garbage. i will learn from my mistakes.
mike jones	None, Florida
1/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: protechnik speakers they are in boca raton, fl now. That is south florida. 2 guys pulled up in a black suv. Same story...got an xtra projector, screen and speakers and if their boss sees it he will take it. The guy said his name was brian. I did not buy it but they were persistent and had a good story. These guys are dirtbags. Unshaven white guys with no class. I was suspicious after I realizwd the speakers didn't come with a subwoofer and the projector said hd ready!j
Gina	Ft. Myers , Florida
1/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM3 My husband was approached outside of Best Buy on Colonial. Same story as everyone else. Paid $300. However, only paid $100 cash and $200 check. I canceled the check. Can this guy try to collect on my check? I also may close my account to make sure he cannot steal my identity. I called cops. I called Best Buy. The manager said he's seen them around week after week. Why don't they warn their guests?
Everett smith	None, Florida
1/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p-611 My friend succumbed to almost identical scam as it is written here fr Texans. Two guys in a Miami parking lot told my friend he could get a $5000 stereo system for $600 because of a surplus that they didn't want returned to their boss. Luckily he only paid $200 but he had to show that he had no money in his ATM or wallet other than $200. my friend was shown the msrp, and the box appeared factory sealed. The unit does power up, but does not have digital optical or digital coax. He said his little computer speakers sound much better, but that the paramax speakers looked so good he could barely stand that they sound so bad and he was ripped off. But, he got the bug to get a real surround system which he needed so this $200 setback propelled him to spend more money to get a decent system. I suggest everyone to look on home theater forum or Cnet.com for reviews of home theater in a box. Turn your bad experience to a good one, and get a dlp HD projector for a home theater to rival any you have seen. You don't even need a screen. Just make sure it does 720p or 1080i for HDTV You can get a sweet setup like mine for $1500 or less and have an 11 foot wide screen or more! Yes you got conned, but get a surround system and projector and you will look back on your experience in humor Something had to make you cross over into the realm of not just home theater but virtual reality. For more info look for forums and online home theater guides. I hope this post is read, and my advice taken. Welcome to a new world. Just stop buying crap from unknown sources and research online for the best prices. Ok, I'm off for some hidef gaming with friends on my 11 foot wide 6 foot tall bright colorful screen with complete surround and booming bass. Long live the experience! By the way my friend is a little embarrassed and ashamed but I am helping him put together a system well within the common persons budget, which is why you all got ripped off. You wanted or thought you had to have a $5000 stereo system. You dont, trust me.
james werner	None, Florida
1/13/2010 Product or Service Involved: olin ross 2 white males in a white van....pulled up to me at Walmart, showed me in box price was $ 2495.00 Paid them $ 350.00
Dave	Bonita Springs, Florida
1/13/2010 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Suround sound speaker system Looks like this group has come south for the winter. It appears they are now in Bonita Springs, Florida. I bought a set in the parking lot of Sunshine Ace Hardware this afternoon. Just like all the others, she (an attractive, perky white girl and her tall slim white boyfriend ina gold colored SUV, Maybe an Expedition) showed me a catalog with these speakers in it for $1899.00, and asked for $800.00, I said no, I HAVE NEVER BOUGHT ANYTHING FROM THE BACK OF A TRUCK BEFORE. long story short, I paid $220.00. They look good, but there are no instructions.
Scott	Jacksonville, Florida
1/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: iCinema home theatre system I bought one of these scams on lem turner rd at walmart. There were two white guys driving a white van, claiming that they had more shipments un-needed and had to get rid of them. A waste of $120.
Sucker in Ft. Lauderdale	Ft Lauderdale, Florida
1/8/2010 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross 703 Series Look out they R now in FT. LAUDERDALE, FL. A tall nice looking mid 20's guy and girlfriend in a silver colored SUV? approched me with a surround sound system Olin Ross 803 series.I have been wanting a surround sound system. He wanted $800.00 he showed me a page in Premier Guitar Maz. asking $3,100.00. for the 803's. Said he just move from the Carolina's & just started working.The company he worked for gave him 2 extra sets. Bottom line I went to the ATM withdrawed $200.00 plus $20.00 for beer and strip joint they were going to. When I got home I purchased the 703 Series (2 speakers). Then decided to look them up on the internet. Where I found other SUCKER's like me. I never buy things people R selling. I thought to myself why don't I just trust people more maybe they need money. So I fell for the scam. So does any one know what is wrong with these speakers I still have not opened the boxes. From: SUCKER in Ft Lauderdale.
Brian	Coral Springs, Florida
1/7/2010 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Speakers This just happened Jan. 7, 2010. There is no 2010 in the dropdown, it only goes up to 2009, so I selected the nearest possible date (Dec. 31, 2009) They got me for $700. I feel sick to my stomach. SUV, like a Ford explorer. The police around here wouldn't care. I know the speakers are no good, but I have not heard why. I mean, OK I paid 20 times what their worth, but I still have the speakers and I'm not getting the money back. Is there any point in hooking them up or should I just throw them out?
Hermes Franca	Sunrise, Florida
1/5/2010 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Got my refund. Good thing because I was ready to crack heads at this office if need be. The didn't know they ripped off a professional MMA fighter (I also brought along another fighter with me in case they wanted to get rowdy). The manager (David) was actually apologetic and nice and had no problems refunding the money. He stated as long as it was within the 3 days since I purchased the speakers they would refund the money. Might be a FL state law. I'm sure they move offices quite frequently (especially after I publish this) but here is their current office address as of 1/1/10. 5400 N. Hiatus Rd. Suite 210 Sunrise, FL 33351. No signage outside, totally incognito. They bet on you not asking for a receipt, therefore no way to find them after you realize you have been deceived on the value of the speakers. Unless of course you do your due diligence in some online research ;) Karma is always a bitch and I'll leave it up to the universe to repay this low life�s.
Scott A. READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!	Orange Park, Florida
1/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 6.1 surround sound january 5, 2010 I was driving a friend to meet his mom at vystar credit union in Orange Park Florida. we were in the truck waiting and a guy in the back of an older white honda odyssey van leaned out the rear driver side window... (somehow through dark tint they knew we were in the truck which makes me think they were watching for people to scam) ...and he waved his hand to roll down a window and talk. he started telling me about how the warehouse had doubled their order of high end surround sound on accident and how the last time it had happened was 8 monthes ago and they had been given an extra 42" tv. Instead of trying to sell it they took it back to work and they only got $80 for it so this time they were gonna try their chances at get more. By the time he finished talking, me, my friend, and his mom were all listening and very interested. haha.. my friend and his mom went inside to cash his check and i kept talking to he guy. he used alot of terminology that made it sound as though he really knew his speakers and home theater so i went ahead on over to his van. Two hispanic men sat in the front seats and the driver popped the hatch. I saw the tag on the box that says "msrp 1,999" and i mentioned that and said yeah but our boss only sends them out for $1400 and he showed me a couple receipts, where the mistake was made on the invoice, and the box and offered to open it to show us that everything was in there. the he asked how much money i had on me and i said 60 but i might be able to get more from my friend who was cashing a nice check. he encouraged me into using the atm and throw another hundred on it but i wouldnt. my friend came back outside and asked me to unlock the truck. Being that the key fob was broken off the key chain i had to walk over two parking spaces. For some reason the surround sound guy followed me over and about the time i walked over to my friends truck i see the bank deputy walk outside towards the white van. he talked to both men, checked their licenses, called for backup, proceeded to run the tags, search the van, and check and the invoices to make sure the sound systems werent stolen. while this was going on i stood by my friends truck and i was still talking to the guy and i asked him a few times if we should just go and he always said to just wait and that everything is alright, thered be nothing wrong. then a third cop who had just pulled up got out of the car dressed in bullet proof vest looking ready to take on an entire mob. the three cops talked for probably 10 minutes and then told them they were good to go just dont make the sale in the bank parking lot. only once did the police acknowledge us and they asked if we were with the white van and i had said no. the white van drove off leaving the guy talking to us and it pulled into the gas station across the street. we told the guy we had to go and that we cant do it and he said alright then he said just come over to the gas station and that he was gonna just hop in the back and ride with us and he immediately jumps in my friends truck and closes the door while i look over at my friend to see if he had a really bad feeling about it to. i told the guy to get the f out and he wilingly did and started walking over to the gas station to meet up with the van. we got in the truck, pull out onto the side of the bank and while we were at the light waiting to turn onto blanding we saw the guys with the surround sound out of the van.... in the 10 seconds between when we saw them at the gas station we completely justified buying that "$2000 high end dollar surround sound" and that since my dad had just got a 50" plasma and blu ray and what not but no new speakers yet that i could go ahead and get it for my dad so we would have a kickin home theater. he rushes us into agreeing to buy it for 140 and then loads it up really quick and opens the box and shows us everything and in the dim light (BTW the cheap plastic silver speakers looked nice) so we thought we really got a deal and then talked him down to 120. we gave him the money and huried off. my friend called his brother and asked him if he wanted and he said we got scammed but we wouldnt believe it. he searrched it on his phone and he saw one on amazon selling for 350 so we werent as excited but I accepted it as a good deal. i brought it inside my house, set it down talked to my mom told her about what a good deal. i went home and searched it adn found lower and lower prices that seemed to just fall from the 350 down to 75. then i found this site. not only did my these people scam me and my friend, but also they also fooled three of the clay county sheriffs offices' finest. ill be watching for that van and theyre not gonna like what happens if i see it and i spend ALOT of time on the roads around my area. I am going to go back to vystar to talk to the deputy tomorrow. they might still have the imformation from today where they searched the van or maybe surveilance tapes. i think theres a good chance we might be able to catch them since so many people were involved and they with the possibility of bank surveilance. **ILL POST AN UPDATE IF THERES MORE TO THIS STORY
Gretchen Connell	None, Florida
12/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross My husband was out shopping a couple of days before Christmas and was approached by these guys selling these Olin Ross Sound Systems. Not ever hearing anything about this scam and not being real familiar with home sound systems he thought this would be a good deal. As soon as he got home I had to do the homework and found out this was all a big scam. They must be some good salesmen they convinced him to buy two. So I had no desire for one now I have two and have no idea what to do with them. I would try to sell them but do not want to be a part of this scam. What a great Christmas present for me (not).
Anonymous	Bonita Springs, Florida
12/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross surround system They got me today in what used to be the Albertson's parking lot, at the intersection of Bonita Beach Rd and Imperial. I'm a little embarrassed about it but, I must say they did a good job. I have not yet tested anything but, my research has led me to believe I got ripped off. I fortunately didn't give them much money. Their act was very convincing. The funniest part of all this is that I'm already familiar with the term, "white van speaker scam."
Not important	Fort myers , Florida
12/13/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross or703 Stopped me after leaving the bank, burgandy suv said he heard my sound system kept talking me down asking me if I was a ballet trying to low ball him and that he was trying to get some money in his pockets, and that the guy with him had just turned 21 and they wanted to get rid of them before thier next install job or their supervisor was going to take them even rode with me to the bank talked about sports and asked me did I have some pills or weed I assume only cause I was black but oh well you win some you lose some btw told me they were from saint Petersburg,fl
Jon Ringeisen	Jupiter , Florida
12/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Alright guys so I got scammed and I posted a article on here about the scam. Well I was able to get my money back by sitting in front of their business from 4am till 8am. They showed up at 8am and i asked for a refund and they gave it too me. Hey by the way if you guys want to scam them after they scam you its really easy i wish i had thought about it. Well they asked me how much i paid and I told them $200 and they gave me the money back without asking for a reciept, so if you tell them you paid $400 and you actually paid $200 then wala you have just scammed the scammer lol. If you have any questions on how i got my money back or what to do if you get scammed my email is jon@ringeisen.com
rick davis	plantation, Florida
12/6/2009 Product or Service Involved: none I was driving with the pastor of my church when a guy in a burgundy dodge grand caravan asked us if we were interested in a surround sound system. I sed no immediately but my pastor said that he wanted to look at them so we pulled over. I was shocked! when we got out of the van this guy started to tell us what happened, all my pastor said was that the right thing to do would be to return them and that he would be rewarded. the guy said that his boss was greedy and that the last time that this happened he took them back and his boss didn't even thank him. my pastor said that the reward he would receive would not be from his boss but from everyone boss "Jesus Christ" Take responsibility for your own greed by your own admission you bought these systems under the pretence that you were buying stolen property.you didn't care that some poor small business owner was loosing thousands of dollars worth of equipment or that the minimum wage delivery driver was only getting a few hundred dollars for something that was worth thousands. look in the mirror before you start judging them. If you had better moral character this would not even be an issue. God bless all of you, Rick
Bill	Anywhere Fla, Florida
12/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: Speakers Isn't Funny how everyone complains after they have bought and think they aren't what they are worth! Traci it's just like women like you who go off half cocked haven't even tried it out but are ready to complain! Guarenteed if it was something fir you, you wouldn't think twice and as For Jade there is a reason Y U are an EX! Any self respecting speakerman would have dumped you like he did. Go ahead and reply and say what a douche he was and ur all That! but we all can see right through it and see who the real Douche is, Just check your cabinets! Truth is they prey on others greed and that's why U buy, nothing else , and when U find out U are the one that has been taken advantage of U get ur panties in a Bunch! Move on and learn from others mistakes! Life is short Drink Beer!
Jon Ringeisen	Jupiter, Florida
12/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: OLin Ross 703 speakers So basically yesterday around 1 pm I was scammed by what is known as the white van scam. I purchased a set of Olin Ross speakers that they told me run for $3100 and I paid $200. When I got home I looked up the speakers and found out it was a scam. Well I don't take scams lightly so I went back to where the individuals sold me the speakers to try and find them and confront them. So I drive around for twenty minutes and I stumble upon the two individuals in their white van. I followed them onto the interstate and called highway patrol, highway patrol pulled them over and talked to them and said they couldn't do anything and that they were legitimate so I ended up having the individual write me up a reciept. I called the business (jm audio, Inc) and it goes to a voicemail, go figure right. So tomorrow I am going to the business at 0500 and sitting there till someone comes, with me is going to be the local news and a police officer. Hopefully things workout, I don't care if I don't get my money back I just want these individuals to get busted.
Scammed	West Palm Beach, Florida
12/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross 860, and 703 The scam is EXACTLY as mentioned widely over the internet, 2 young white guys in a white van approaching the victim in a parking lot in West Palm Beach (Although keep in mind the scam is nationwide) and telling a story about Olin Ross home theater speakers or same brand acoustic speakers that cost between $2500 and $3100, showing the magazine as a proof, that are for sale for about $500 (note that negotiating with them is incredibly easy, they'll drop their prices by half in no time if you are a buyer). The shady story keeps on going with the usual blabla, extra inventory, manager should not profit from this, they should; they must return to work so they have only 10mn. The main guy's name is Casey (his ID has been verified by the police) and he is not from FL. He is either from Utah or Iowa. He claims to be working for JM Sound based out of Tampa. He has invoices and everything. I took their car keys and called the police since I was aware of this scam. Guess what happened : THE POLICE COULD NOT DO ANYTHING AND LET THEM GO!!!!!!!! SO JUST KEEP WALKING THE LINE IF ONE OF THESE BITCHES APPROACH YOU AND GO HOME WITHOUT LOOKING BACK!!!! Santa Claus does not exist....
Alberto Cotto	Orlando, Florida
11/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Paramax I parked in the Waterford Lakes Plaza center today, thinking about heading into Target. As I left my car an SUV pulled up next to me. The driver approached me and told me that he had a great deal for me. He opened up his trunk and showed me some boxes labeled "Paramax". He explained that he worked for Sound Advice (a local audio shop). He was even wearing a Sound Advice t-shirt. He said that there was an inventory mix up and that they were given an extra Paramax P6 Sound System. When I told him I had no idea what Paramax was he pulled out a magazine showing me a "5 star review" of the sound system. He explained that Paramax provided speakers for IMAX theaters. At this point an alarm rang in my head and I told him I was not interested and walked away. My brother however was not put off by the outlandish claims. He talked further with the driver and purchased the sound system for $150.00 (The MSRP on the box showed 2,100!) - what he thought was a huge savings. The guy loaded it into my car and joked about us owing him some beer for giving us such a great deal. We got home and, needless to say, the rest is obvious. The speakers had no clear instructions or manufacturer contact information, the included audio cables were of extreme poor quality and the sound we got from them was horrendous. WE GOT SCAMMED - hopefully nobody else does.
Brian	Jacksonville, Florida
11/10/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Model # D-6 I was on Hodges and Beach today and got the white van scam as well. They were in a Silver Toyota Sienna Mini-Van License Plate number X623BR. They got me for $400, off from the supposed $3,995 MSRP. If anybody gets these people, be careful, they have the same story as before, someone put an extra one in the van, and their boss is gonna just take it if they find it in the van after their return to the warehouse. If anybody has any information on this, e-mailing Bro8412_2000@yahoo.com would be appreciated. Thank you, and I hope nobody else gets this.
Peter Wagner	Pembroke Pines, Florida
11/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: DA 6.1 I feel so stupid that this guy got away with this. He was driving a white Ford Explorer and complaining that he could not go back to the warehouse with the home theater cause his boss will be furious since he did'nt report that he had received by mistake among other items, a product that was not supposed to be in his delivery truck. He showed me in an invoice the real price of the electronics which is $2100.00. Something sounded fishy to me but he insisted to let me have it for half price. When something sounds too good to be true, I always feel a click on my head. I tried to back away, he insisted and again and again...Finally, he asked for a couple hundred dollars. I only had 50.00 and he got away with it. When I reached home and went on the computer for some reaserch on the product, I realised that this guy got me. Be careful people with those scams. Do not provide your help on thoses circumstances. PS I was pumping gas at a gas station in Pembroke Pines, Florida
Peter Nelson	None, Florida
10/31/2009 Product or Service Involved: Volk Audio Not a white van this time: a red truck in Hollywood, Florida. Two guys approched me with the same story as many above (one extra item delivered). Paid them $1100 for the items. Normally, I would not trust anyone like that but that guy gave me his driver's licence (it could be fake). Here is the driver's licence number: L000765701790 Name Booby (or Robert) Lowe. I have his receit and signature.
DKaine	Holiday, Florida
10/26/2009 Product or Service Involved: Unknown Two guys selling speakers from a white van in the North Tampa bay area (US Hwy 19 in Holiday, FL). Pennsylvania temporary license tag 1693-874. Almost had a guy in the bank parking lot, I ruined a few more of their potential sales as they passed through a nearby shopping plaza. Wololo >:3
randy	mulberry, Florida
10/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: orlin boss speakerz 2 guys in a burgundy expedition on mulberry walmart,same thing. Speakers for sale400
parrada	Riverview, Florida
10/19/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross two guys in a while SUV with an offer too good to be true. they were offering a OLIN ROSS Sound System which was valued at $2,495 for just $700, I said I did not have that kind of money, they suggested to take money from ATM machine with a credit card. One of them even asked me who did I bank with. They claim to install this kind of equipment in very wealthy homes and that the had an extra one, but that they had an extra set which they were selling, he even offer to give me a receipt. which he did. there was a white yound man in his mid to upper 20's, who said he was in the Navy and was an IC in the Navy for 4 years and a Puerto Rican fellow who said his name was Jesus Figueroa, and that he was from Manhattan. I ended up paying $400 for the OR860 and set of speakers OR73 for $200 dollars. They ripped off with $600, I repeatedly asked them if the items were good, if they were not rejects, which they stated were brand new even open the boxes and every thing looked in immaculate brand new condition, the packaging very neatly as from the factory.
John	West Palm Beach, Florida
10/19/2009 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Was approached by a guy when I was leaving the bank...shoulda put 2 and 2 together. He had a black SUV and gave me the story about having 1 extra inventory by mistake and he was trying to get some mone out of it instead of taking it back to the warehouse. Took me for $250. Had the magazine brochure and everything with the high MSRP. I figured I could resell it even it was worth a quarter of the price. Serves me right for being greedy and uninformed!
Matt	Lakeland, Florida
10/16/2009 I was at the 7/11 gas station on the corner of Pipkin & S. Florida and I saw the tinted-windowed van. I have been scammed by the white speaker van scam when I was in college, so I immediately called the guys out. They said I could check online and that it wasn't a scam, but I knew better than that... I got the license plate number: N99 0QX - if you see this tag or the white vans selling speakers, immediately get the hell out of there as they are scam-artists... and they do a great job of pitching their stories. If only they used their speaking skills to do some good in the world... oh well, karma is a bitch, so I'm not worried.
Marie	Largo, Florida
10/15/2009 Had two white guys approach me at a gas station in Largo, FL in a white unmarked van (what I refer to as a "kidnapping van"). Offered to sell me $3000 speakers for a good price. Told me he had to get rid of them ASAP-they were delivered to his work by mistake and since he was a college graduate working for $9/hour, there was no way he was going to take them back, but earn an extra buck instead. Even offered to follow me to an ATM machine where I could take out cash for it... yeah right! My parents are in law enforcement and say they arrest guys like this all the time.
Fred Jackson	Tampa, Florida
10/15/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross I wish I would of read this site sooner. Just got scammed $500. Two white guys in a van at the gas station. Sold me Olin Ross 870 and Tower Speakers OR703. I told them I wanted to see if they work. They hooked it up to the speakers and worked. I thought I was getting a deal. They told me the story of having a extra shipment. I guess i've been had. First time in my life i got duped. I should of known better. Well, some good can come out of it now. There in Tampa, Florida so beware of this scam
Brian S Williams	Tampa, Florida
10/15/2009 I wasn't actually taken in by these scumbags, but I responded to an ad seeking a "route Salesman" under the name Alliance Distributors Inc. I did some research and found that Alliance Distributors is a wholesale video game console distributor. In other words, a ligitamate enterprise. When I entered their office I noticed a bunch of plaques for outstanding salesmanship with the name Avalon Distributors. Right then I knew something was amiss. I then overheard two of them bragging about how they "jerked this stupid MFer" and " I got 340 bucks outta this stupid bitch". I got up and left the building located at 5101 West Rio Vista Avenue, Tampa, FL their phone # is 813-886-5800 if you wish to speak to someone at the company. They are the same people who operate scams in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Coinnecticut, Eetc. GOOD LUCK
Fred Jackson	Tampa, Florida
10/14/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross I wish I would of read this site sooner. Just got scammed $500. Two white guys in a van at the gas station. Sold me Olin Ross 870 and Tower Speakers OR703. I told them I wanted to see if they work. They hooked it up to the speakers and worked. I thought I was getting a deal. They told me the story of having a extra shipment. I guess i've been had. First time in my life i got duped. I should of known better. Well, some good can come out of it now. There in Tampa, Florida so beware of this scam
Traci	Boca Raton, Florida
10/10/2009 Product or Service Involved: Pro-Optics/ Pro-Technik Hi, I live in Boca Raton FL. Come to find out yesterday my husband (who is apparently at least a little naive ;) got scammed yesterday into buying a surround sound, projector, and screen for $400 which was supposedly worth altogether maybe $10,000 or so. Our church just happened to be in need of a projector so my husband thought.. oh good this is a good opportunity and i can see if our Pastor wants it, and if he doesn't i can sell it on ebay. So he bought it, and he told me about it, i was extremely suspicious about it so i went to the website that was listed on the box i think it was something like (I'm at work right now so i don't know for sure) www.protechnikslab.com and the brand labeled on the equipment was Pro-Optics. The guy was selling this equipment out of a Cadillac Escalade and claimed that it was an overstock thing with his company bla bla bla.. I'm not sure all of the details but he showed my husband a magazine with the equipment listed in it. I am wondering if i report this to the police if it will do any good, or if there is even anything that can be done to stop them. From what i have read other places they are not exactly steeling your money they are selling you something even though it is not worth as much as they claim. We haven't tried to operate the equipment yet so we don't know if it even works! I see a couple of different ebay sales that are going on with this equipment i don't know if i can stop them or tell people it is a scam.
Jade	None, Florida
9/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: alliance WHERE SHOULD I BEGIN. I am an ex girlfriend of a speaker man.And all I have to say is im sorry to all the families they have got. Basically if you come apon a tall white male about 6'2 says he was in the navy he's a liar. He was in the navy but got kicked out cause he's a fuck up and that is all he will ever be in his life. He has warrants in alot of states from maryland to texas and who else knows where probably california too. There is no help for guys like him. He thrieves off of stealing your money. and who knows what kind of drugs hes on since he started this job. He used to be a great guy and then this job just ruined him made him think he was big and going to suceed in life selling speakers out of a van. Fucking a joke. His boss is smart at least........he knows how to manage his money and run a business . These speaker men used to live in pittsburgh pa where most of them are from that are in flordia now. And all of a sudden got up and moved there whole speaker business within a week. How odd a business closes and moves within a week. The reason they moved was because pennsylvania was taxing the fuck out of each speaker they were selling because it was known as a scam and they were trying to close down there business if they didnt close within a week they would have went dry with business and tax money. Please keep your kids away from these people. They do drugs and they are shady as hell. Some of them have potential but no respect. There are people in this world that get away with everything..and those people are people like a speaker man. especially if his name is BEN. im suprised you havent fired him yet! Hes not even good enough to run a fucking scam hes so fucked up in the head.
AFTON	ORANGE, Florida
9/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: theater research I WAS SOLD , THESE SPEAKERS FOR $600.00. THEY LOOK AND SOUND BETTER THAN ANYTHING I EVER BOUGHT FROM BEST BUY THAT WAS NAME BRAND. tHE GUY WHO MAKES , DESIGNS, AND DISTRIBUTES THIS HOME THEATER STUFF IS A GENIUS....HES NOT SELLING HIS STUFF THROUGH SELLIN IT OUT TO BOSE , JVC AND SO ON SO HE MAKES MORE MONEY THIS WAY! DURR , GEE'S . The design is so modern and awsome loooking . I would havebought more , but they didnt have anymore =(. You Idiotd must not NOW HOW TO WIRE AN AUDIO SYSTEM. Please im sure youtube can teach you retards LOL. Keep up the great work . ANY IDIOT WANT ME TO INSTALL THEM ILL ONLY CHARGE YOU 300.00 FLAT RATE...FOR ONE ROOM. ALLLLL LEGAL.....ALL AWSOME......LOL
Dave	JACKSONVILLE, Florida
9/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: DAVINCI HOME THEATRE Exactly as discribed above. 2 men in an SUV at the gas station talking about the mishap with the inventory of theatre systems. They had the inventory list and everything. Mentioned making the sale of the items before returning back to the warehouse, even mentioned the beer. I am usually very good at spoting these things but i am always willing to find a good deal also. Needless to say. I was taken for 250$.
YOUR IN CONTROL	OCALA, Florida
8/24/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci DV-6030 & Genesis labs 6030 Ill get to the Genesis labs 6030 in a sec. SO HERE WE GO. Im at wal mart pumping gas in a souped up sports car, guy in a tan expedition pulls up and almost hits me. I thought he was on speed or something. Anyhow, he opens up the back of his SUV he has 3 sets of the Divinci-6030's and he shows me the box. It was brand new and sealed, retail price on barcode on the huge box was 2999.99 Im like, what of it man, whats the deal. he said something about a boss and he got too many or the sets and he could get in trouble for having them. I sell cars so I told him I knew they were hott, ( So I thought ) and he was cool with that and we talked. luckily i had just bought a PS3 so I only had $150 in my wallet. So I said im out of the game cause I dont have the cash. He said how much do you have and when I opened my wallet he was all over in my personal space. I said 150 but i just filled up and I gotta pay 50 inside. He said " no bank card?" I said nope im a cash only man.(knowing damn well I lost my bank card in an atm machine that same day and was in the process of getting a new 1. So I gave him $100 for this so called $3000 setup of 5.1 surround that was heavy, real, and nice. ended up being a bit of a let down but they still sounded great in fact I called DiVinci's Phone # and they walked me through the setup and told me how everything worked and they were for real. Their # checked out to the address area on the website and it is for real. Model # & all. Then months later I move in to my girlfriends place and she lives with her cousin. when I walked into the apartment he had the genesis labs 6030 that was a exact twin or mine even the remotes identical. only diff was where it said divinci on mine it said genesis on his. & the thing is they sounded great too. So I dont know how eveyone is getting ripped so much. obviously there are good sets out there for sale from these "scammers". The only thing I dont like about my setup and the genesis is the amp is built into the subwoofer. Thats a wirey mess. Here is the deal its the same blueprint being manufactured by alot of companys. Just like when honda sold the passports blueprint to isuzu for its rodeo, or acura's slx's blueprint sold to isuzu for thier rodeo. bottom line is dont expect bose speakers when your getting bottom line bose generics. for a decent price I might add. I paid $100 dollars and got more than my moneys worth and a little more on top. So be positive and if you dont like it dont buy it, if you do, buy it for your price. your in control not them. You can say no anytime & walk away. & In FLA you shoot first and ask ?'s later. So get your gun and buy some speakers for the right price. Have and make sure you kill if you have too cause they are salesmen who are very believable and tell stories and remember their lies. Thats what a True Salesmen can do, Master the art of remember his own lies. The many many many many many many many many many many many many lies he doesnt live by. None of these guys have vets or big houses or anything. They live sales to very few sales just like most of america. Tru Salesmen are the easiest push over when it comes to them getting scammed, Thats a fact, They are the most insecure people in the buisness field. Its a persona, a front, & sometimes a good show, but nothing more than an insecure guy selling his grandmother a surround setup cuase she trust her only grandson. Thats how they live eat and breath. YOUR IN CONTROL. If you dont like the scam SAY NO & WALK AWAY. If you do like the scam then offer $100 or less and they will take it. END of story! if you want more tips on how to avoid a high pressure salesman email me at telefonicamerica@yahoo.com. I have a outlooks email but on here ima use a web based. Have fun and smile.
m	Orlando, Florida
8/19/2009 I was approached just as described by 3 guys in a white pickup truck at 7-11 on the corner university blvd and forsyth rd. They called for me while i was pumpin gas, i didnt know if they needed directions or what so i went over and the driver got out. He did the whole spiel text book... had the magazine already opened and lookin like he had that page open for weeks, which was a little bit of a give-away for me. The speakers did look nice tho, so i told him i had no money to spare and he said make an offer. I was still giving these guys the benefit of the doubt so i said "honestly i wouldnt wanna insult you by offering $200", it was said hypothetically, he originally wanted $600 for "$3200" speakers. He said he was hoping for $200 for each guy and he got back in the truck with the other guys. As i walked back to my car the passenger gets out, yells to me, grabs the box outta the truck(could have been a brickbox-swap here), and runs over to my car with it trying to put it in my car. He said "were so late, we gotta make this delivery to fullsail so i gotta either give it to you or toss it... you can have em" im like "really? i can HAVE em?" he agreed again and again until the box actually hit my front seat... "so just pay what you agreed to my buddy over there, what was it? 200? and well call it a day" as he stood back in a readied stance, determined to make the sale. I told him i couldnt do 200 cuz it was shady and i dont like when people sell me a way to make money (i.e. sell it on ebay... "no, YOU sell it on ebay! you prolly already tried and thats why we are here." lol). Anyway he even offered to pay me 250 when he was done to get them back from me. I said no, he walked with em still in my car... i could have drove off not payin a cent but theyd follow, and theres a enough crazy people around to keep me in check, plus i dont like to steal from the little guy. I grabbed the box that the guy made seem so heavy and threw it in the truck.. "no deal, sorry... good luck with ebay" and i walked away feeling a little confused cuz their facts dont fit. This happend once before in 2002 around the fullsail area and ive heard of it from others so i thought id look it up, i didnt realise the pitch was so practiced so i thought id add my experience... This happened yesterday, Aug 18, 2009
jim smith	None, Florida
8/17/2009 Product or Service Involved: blah Curtis Mullins i know him in RL and he is also a Low Life wife beater
Giancarlo	Miami-Doral, Florida
8/12/2009 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM3 WOW!... I was just approached by two white males (seems to the the constant) at a gas station, same story... these speakers are worth 10 million dollars. The box label said $4,300. I ALMOST FELL FOR IT, I EVEN WENT TO THE ATM. I was gonna buy these shitty speakers, but since I did not recognize the products, I googled the product on my iphone on the spot, and BAM, ran into this site, plus multiple other results about this being a scam. I sent the guys to hell, and told them good luck with another idiot. They wanted $400, and were gonna let it go to me for $200. Why does this scam work? I'll tel you why, because it seems that the individuals selling it, just stole this merchandise being so cheap compared to the box's suggestion, and the scammers are desperate to get rid of it. The victim, will believe that he's about to score because of this nature. Multiple flags tell you that this is bullshit. 1. It's off the back of a truck (already sketchy) 2. There is a price printed on the box barcode. NO LEGIT MANUFACTURER WOULD EVER DO THAT! 3. PARAMAX BRAND - WTF is that?! (this is what saved me) 4. The two white males will be sketchy as fuck. THANKS FOR THE ADVICE! CHEERS!
Georgy Chiukov	Bradenton, Florida
8/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: Orlin Ross OR860 Two males, Caucasian, 1) driver approximately 30-40 years of age, sandy blonde hair, blue eyes, slim build, weathered face with somewhat recessed cheeks, 2)associate approximately 21-30 years of age, full cheeks, hazel eyes. Both travelling in mid-nineties model gold minivan. Claimed they worked for Alliance Distributors in Tampa, had to rid themselves of unit. Had business cards, catalogues, etc. Younger male claimed a home address off Waters Ave in Tampa, also claimed to be single father of two girls. Negotiated to two hundred dollars. Googled unit at home, slapped forehead. My first time being scammed. I blame having respectable job for too long; in college I would have sniffed these guys out in a second.
farmer	largo, Florida
7/29/2009 sweetbay seminole blvd. two guts in a gold murano.cops where called and came before they left.i don't know what happened.they where talking to them when i left
Rick Spitz	Tampa, Florida
7/28/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Tower Speaker Yesterday, as I was loading my pickup truck with groceries I had purchased at Sweet Bay Supermarket (on the corner of Manhattan and Gandy Avenues) I was approached by a clean-cut man who claimed he had some extra merchandise (still new in the box) left over from a recent installation at a Doctor's office. There were two other young men in the station wagon who were, like the original, clean cut, "college type." Thankfully, after a day of shopping, I only had $100.00 left in my wallet---which eventually went for one tower speaker (obviously, I wasn't thinking, afterall, it is hard to produce stereo effects with only one speaker)! These guys were fantastic salemen, even going so far as to offer to drive me to my bank! They did have some other stereo equipment, but were not willing to part with it for less than $1200.00. Thank God that I didn't purchase an amplifier that I would have needed to power the tower speaker up! Anyway, I just wanted to alert potential suckers, like myself, that these people are in the Tampa area (driving a blue station wagon) and apparently prey on people leaving larger stores--where the parking lot is huge and police few.
STFO - CHEAP SPEAKERS - STFO	None, Florida
7/16/2009 Product or Service Involved: STFO - CHEAP SPEAKERS - STFO Speaker manufacturing company wants to cut out the middleman. We can beat the price and quality of current wholesalers. New product lines will increase sales! Referral incentive program! Email: lee@speaker-factory.com
speaker guys baby mama =)	orlando, Florida
7/14/2009 Oh Mark as much as I HATE the speaker selling profession I can't help but to sit here and laugh at the fact you "beat their ass" first off if anyone got their ass kicked it most likely would of been you. From the way you talk, you sound like you are someone who got scared by the speaker guys and had to come to this site to boost your self esteem! I highly doubt that one lil you could take on multiple big guys....they are not just big they are huge! Enjoy your destroyed speakers lil boy....=)
the girlfriend	brandon, Florida
7/12/2009 Product or Service Involved: speakers Hello, i am a girlfriend of one of these van men and he worked there only 2 weeks before hye found out really what this bisness indeed was all about, and to be an insider looking at this just to tell you the boss doesnt tell them its a scam until they find out themselfs. He quit because he isn't the kind of person and all of those people arent bad, they either know or they don't, but lets be real every sales dealer has some kind of scam. They cant go around posting Ford as scam artist and so on they just are. That's just the nature of life. people make there money not saying its right but just be smarter and either don't buy or in his case don't work. Oh and mark there were no reports on anyone getting beat up!
mark	orlando, Florida
7/5/2009 that wasnt no storie onlooker. me and my friends beat the shit out of them. i aint no internet gangster and i did get hustled but best believe i got my money back. and it will probally make them non workin assholes laugh, except 2 of em
onlooker	anywhere, Florida
7/1/2009 Product or Service Involved: blah I can understand the lady who was speaking about her husband letting guys follow him to the bank, that's a little sketchy she's right her husband should've been more careful cause nowadays you never know.. I bought one of these Home Theater's for 180.00 bucks and suprisingly it works quite well and the number they gave me was actually legit i've spoken to them twice and one helped walk me through the installation.. But what makes me laugh is this Mark guy talking about he "beat them up and got his money back and than some" ...........STORIES! It's so funny how people start typing and are suddenly bad ass gangsters, like it's cool dude we know you got GOT so why lie? You might as well be honest... you got hustled, shit happens. As a matter of fact i'm sure all that your bullshit story does is make them laugh when they look at the website.. stupid.
mark	orlando, Florida
6/29/2009 i found the guys who sold me my bullshit and me and some homeboys beat the hell out of them and got my money back plus some and gave him his speakers back, destroyed ofcoarse
Bushnell FL	Bushnell, Florida
6/26/2009 Product or Service Involved: Wirelss speaker system with 4 speakers The two guys approached my husband while he was pumping gas; they saw his new 350 ford duly and figured he had money. They told him they were working on a new home in Ocala and the speakers ordered were not what the owner wanted in the home, so their boss told them they were already paid for so they could have them and sell them for whatever they could get and split it between the two of them. They showed the invoice, a magazine with the speakers in it for $1899.00 and offer to come to our house to set it up, they even showed their drivers license and Navy card saying one of them just got out of the Navy, then they follow my husband to the bank for him the get $300 out of the ATM....I told him it was a scam but he insisted this was a fantastic deal and the worst part we have a small living room and already have a system that is to loud we didn�t need them and my husband is frugal so they were good salesman. I was more upset that my husband let them follow him to the bank; they could have held a gun on him and hurt him or even got more money out of our account. I sooo wish he would have written the Driver license down, my husband look it over and the picture was the same as the guy holding it but who knows if it was real. He also took my husband phone and put his number in it, I told my husband he should have done that himself and called it to make sure he put it in right because of course it was fake! These people ruin life for everyone else, now if we even saw someone broke down I wouldn't stop in fear I wouldn't know if it were a scam or not! How fair is that.
Homer Simpson	Jacksonville, Florida
6/14/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Parking lot of walgreens at the corner of Old St Augustine Rd and Bartram Park Blvd. Got scammed for $380.
LEN	Fort Myers, Florida
6/12/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross 860 5.1CH Home Theater Was offered at Home Depots parking space in Fort Myers for $1,800.00.. Bought it against my wife whishes for $300.00 Car Tag N67 NGR I was scammed! LEN
v. stevens	brandon , Florida
6/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Sound System #OR703 Much like the other experiences, my son got out of his vehicle in a bank parking lot and was approached by two men in a white van. They initially wanted 800.00 for the speakers but he talked them down to 200. Once and for all people if it sounds too good to be true......
tyler huffman	tampa, Florida
6/9/2009 Product or Service Involved: olin ross or6050 In tampa, white van. waiting outside of cvs pharmacy off of bruce b. downs.
Doug Dodson	Homosassa, Florida
6/2/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross OR 860 This scam has found it's way to the West coast of Florida... These guys hit me up a month ago and I was in a hurry and blew them off. Today, they got me at a vegetable stand with the same approach; bosses car, too much merchandise. Box is print labeled 2495.00 for a 5.1 surround system including amp and 5 speakers. This is a small town and I'll find them.
dave lowell	west palm beach, Florida
5/29/2009 Product or Service Involved: davinci I bought two sets of DA 6030 today for $450.00 I feel stupid for buying them after reading all of this but it's my own fault they told me that they had extra from a delivery and that the boss did not know! so basically I thought I was buying something that did not belong to them(stolen). I feel like I deserve what I got and that $450.00 is a cheep lesson for me to learn. I�ll never do this again.... if it seams to good to be true it probably is! I actually like the way that sound even though you can tell they are cheaply made. They�re probably worth about $100.00 each or less.
Liz	Riverview, Florida
5/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci There is a fat, red-headed guy who is heavily tattooed driving around the Riverview/Brandon area in a white truck w/ a topper. (Just as the post on 2/11/2009 described) He went along w/ his whole story about working for a company...blah blah blah... and he almost had my boyfriend. Luckily, I walked outside and saw that the guy was tweaking and assumed that the stereo was hot so I talked my boyfriend out of it. He tried to get $300 from us! Be on the lookout. I can not remember his name, but I do have his phone number. 352-682-4347. Good luck everyone, and God bless you in these troubled times.
Rex Anderson	St Petersburg, Florida
5/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross 860 5.1 sound system Outside of suntrust bank i was approached by a man who got out his van with a lifetime deal. Took $800 from me, said it was worth $2500. Find him and kill him.
buck shot	hudson , Florida
5/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: olin ross the same as all of the others.white van 200 dollars and it will not work.I am old enough to know better but some times we need to be reminded how lousy people really are.I am looking for these two basterds. they better hope I don"t find them doing it again.{beware}
Don Gordon	Bradenton , Florida
4/25/2009 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Home Systems 5.1 and speakers Today two guys in a Ford F150 (WHITE) approached me trying to sell Olin Ross 6050 Speakers. Again having products left over from a job. They wanted $800.00. I TALKED THEM DOWN TO $200.00. Got home......They arent even connect inside......BEWARE
Darrell	Jacksonville, Florida
4/21/2009 Product or Service Involved: Divinci A white Venturi Van with two guys approached me at Walmart today with an attempt to sale me a Divinci Home Theatre system. The vans license plate was DCG3A Florida. This is the 2nd time I've been approached with this scam.
Jesse	Tampa, Florida
4/17/2009 Product or Service Involved: Palermo VA6.1 Leaving the parking lot of the bank, a couple of college guys claimed that they had to get rid of their left over speakers soon, so they offered a "low price." I said "no," repeatedly, at least 20 times, but they eventually managed to get $200 from me. The speakers sort of work (not the Sub.W), but they don�t come with an amp. The second you see a couple of guys in a minivan look at you and start to talk to you, get out while you can. If you give them a hint of friendliness and look them in the face, you're in trouble. They put on an amazing show (and I'm into theatre)!
Preecha Artkaew	LEESBURG, Florida
3/30/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis G-6040 Today ,In front of Lake Square Mall Leesburg Time 05:25 PM Sory, My English is poor. I can't explain everything. But it look like this. denver.backpage.com/GeneralCommunity/dont_get_taken_by_guy_scammin_worthless_divinci_d50_out_of_suv_google_white_van_speaker_scam/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1439973 and This is Product Scam genesismedialabs.com/hometheater6040.html His phone number is 3155429060 His name is DWYER JONES His ID DWYER JONES ID 933 477 151 P.O. Box 696 New Hartford, NY 13413 Thanks
keysib	fort lauderdale, Florida
3/25/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci 6.1 speaher system No white van, but a new red pickup with only one very nicely dresed young man. The same line was used to much inventory. The MFP $1,999 and what a steal for only $120,00, We were at the bank (of all places). The speakers are very well packaged, I knew better, however my best friend said they would be perfect for her son's bithday. The problem is their is no amp to hook the speakers into, and of course you can't hook them in to the back of your TV, although he insisted you could. Overall the quality of the speakers sound like Mildand which you can pick up for about $30.00 bucks, and those eveninclude the whle surround sound system.
LLERRAD	Orlando, Florida
3/25/2009 Product or Service Involved: FAT GIRL [Posting REMOVED because of vulgarity]
keysib	Fort Lauderdale, Florida
3/24/2009 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci 6.1 Pro Series No white van but a new red pickup, a friend and I were at the bank, (of all places) and was approched by a very well dressed male, with the same story to much inventory. The packageing was impressive, also the MSPR list price was $1,999. Being scammed myself said no, however my friend thinking it would be perfect for her son's birthday for only $120.00 was to good to be true, we went for it. I came quickly home to check it out on the net, what a suprise. I do have to say comments are very funny, it takes alot for people to turn something bad and be able to laugh and joke about it. I really like the guy with the video idea, also they do make goodlooking trash cans.
Richard Pierluissi	OCALA, Florida
3/20/2009 Product or Service Involved: PROTECHNIK Approached by 2 men in a target parking lot.Offered high end stereo equipment for discount price. Paid @150 for a receiver and speakers thank god i didnt give them what they wanted which was $400 just for the receiver. Which in turn were very low quality and barely working.
heyy	apopka, Florida
3/17/2009 If anyone wants there money back they should try calling that number I posted in a earlier post. Robert has a myspace account www.myspace.com/nephucuz maybe he will be generous enough to give you people back your hard earned money =). I know they come to this website and check the updated postings because they are bitching at me for putting their information out there. Patrick is the other person who probably sold you he stays in apopka as well with the other losers you can contact him at 407 535 9461. I dont why people fall for their lies the speakers they sell you arn't worth the money the are cheap and they purchase them from a warehouse every morning. I think if you have been scammed by one of these people then you should turn them in to get your money bak =)
Louis	Pompano Beach, Florida
3/12/2009 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs 6.1 Same thing went down with me today. But I only had one guy came up to me at a wachovia parkinglot on atlantic blvd ,it was a black jeep, he drove up right next to me and said.. hey do u speak english.. it feels funny asking this.. but I'm in my bosses car and I have a few drops to make and the company gave us extra boxes and I have 20 mins left to get this out my car.. so. After looking at the product I asked how much.. he didn't say.. went on talking about the product.. I told him the most I can do is 100.. still went on talking about where he was going to drop off the other speaker and had to go.. he asked me for 500 after telling me brand new its 2000 dollars... he showed me receipts, after 15 mins of talking and he said yes to 100 dollars plus a case of beer.. so 120 was what I spent.. got back in my car google the product and found out people are getting scam from this cheap product.. and ebay sales it for 149... he told me it was wood grain.. This sucks.... anyone wants to buy it from me.... Wachovia on atlantic blvd near the walmart shopping plaza
Brandi	apopka, Florida
3/12/2009 If you guys want your money back because you have been scammed the idiots live in apopka, fl. Give them a call 321 527 9253 Paul Poppell he's probably the idiot that sold you your speakers. Robert Poppell Johnny Poppell these people are the dumbest assholes I know they think selling speakers and scamming people like you make them thousands of dollars...to bad they are all trash!!!!!!!!!!
Sean	Jacksonville, Florida
3/3/2009 Product or Service Involved: Davinci Pretty much the same as everyone else except it was a Gold trailblazer guy says he works for goldcoast audio
Matt Danchik	Orlando, Florida
2/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: RDX DX10 I was in the Publix parking lot when I was stopped by two white males in a green truck. They asked if I wanted to buy some speakers that were of a $3,000 dollar value and how much I was willing to pay for them. I happened to have $300 which I offered to them. They explained that if they couldn't sell it that it was going back to their boss. I was convinced when they showed me the receipt and had a convincing story. I realized it may have been a scam when I told my roommate about the great deal I had made and he told me about a similar scam story that happened to him in a different city. I would like to know what I can do to get my money back.
STFO - CHEAP SPEAKERS - STFO	None, Florida
2/17/2009 Product or Service Involved: STFO - CHEAP SPEAKERS - STFO Chinese electronics manufacturing company wants to cut out the middle men! We can beat the price and quality of any wholesalers your currently buying from. Currently in USA for a few weeks with samples. Email: lee@speaker-factory.com
i hate speaker guys	brandon, Florida
2/11/2009 Product or Service Involved: genesis I am pretty sure that one of these speaker guys lives in a neighborhood near me. He drives a white pickup with a topper on the back. The windows on the topper have reflective tint on them so you can't see inside. I was driving past his place the other day and he had the back of truck open and I saw all the genesis speaker boxes in the back. That is when things started to click because he works weird hours and has a lot of toys like jet skis and such. Also three brand new cars. I'm going to keep an I eye out and see if he really is who I think he is. If anyone wants info e-mail me.
Thomas Trendafilov	Ft Myers, Florida
2/5/2009 Product or Service Involved: Rdx DX9 I was leaving BestBuy to go to my car and two guys in a black nissan pathfinder stopped me and said " Hey buddy i just got an extra surround sound system for free and i'm trying to get rid of it fast, so then they backed up into a parking spot and they opened there truck to show me the system,and they said that this was an extra shipped item and they were supposed to get 2 not 3 and he showed me an invoice that looked pretty good and he was saying that if hi boss sees it he would take it back he was showing me the price of it and i asked him how much he wanted for it and he said "well whats the best you can do" and i said only like 300 dollars he said thats fine because i would be getting nothing if my boss sees it" i hokked it up and it does sound pretty nice though i just need to see how to get it to go to my tv. the place he said he worked was called coastal sound on the other side of the coast.
ed troy	None, Florida
1/23/2009 Product or Service Involved: global digital dr 8600 surround sound system priced at 2,000 for $250. Includes bass and 5 speakers
John Doe	Miami, Florida
12/29/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs Speakers I had 2 guys stop me in the Home Depot parking lot and told me they had extra speakers, yada yada yada and i bought one for $200.00 us, i saw them again in a bank parking lot but i should have taken their van ID but did not. I hope to see them again.
amelia seago	Plant City, Florida
12/6/2008 Product or Service Involved: dan wave 5.1 Home Theatre systems My husband (Steve) bought a brand new dan wave 5.1 Home Theatre system brand new in the box, the box had 1,999.00 in large letters on it, actually my husband's partner called him @ home & said he could get a 2,000 dollar home theatre brand new, in the box for 500.00 dollars, my husband said get it immediately! We worked for hours than days trying to get it to work & we relently admitted we weren't able to figure it out-we are middle aged and simply have had trouble with other modern gadgets but through our diligence generally got it done. Now we moved shortly after and it stayed in the box until today 12/07/08 and 3 men 1 really good at electronic's and he said it wasn't us it was difinately the system. I decided to go online & see if I could learn anything this evening and began reading how other people have had negative experience's with this system too. I read something about 2 guys in a white van alongside the road sold them their's also, my husband said (Billy) his partner bought it from men along the hwy. unsure about the van, he said he'll ask him tommorrow if he remembers. Can anyone tell me if there's any way of reaching this Dan Wave Co. or any info. on them. I couldn't find a website on them. Thank you for any info. you can give me. Good luck Mimi
sue lee	orlando, Florida
11/22/2008 Product or Service Involved: di vinci speakers so this kid comes up to me with a real convincing story and i fell for it. for 160.00 bux some kid supposedly name isaac in green izuzu pathfinder short kid skinny and short hair......
Speaker guy serial killer	Hallandale, Florida
11/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci One low life scum bag in a silver avalanche approached me in a publix parking lot gave the whole extra speaker set BS all the invoices and magazines, like an ignorant fuck against my gut feeling I fell for it forked over $250 after him wanting $800, and got some nice paper weights. I threw the speakers in the dumpster at my work the same day despite the recommendation to try to re sell them online then I would be just as bad as the low life scum bag who ripped me off. I have seen two other sets of two guys doing this near my area once in Hollywood another in Davie. Both times I turned around and drove by and gave them a piece of my mind and warning there potential victim in affect ruining there scam. One guy tried to fight me but coward away when I jumped out of my truck. I would love to find the guy who ripped me off and make him buy his life back for $250 meanwhile swallowing the barrel of a .40 cal. I try to be an honest person and get fucked.
Chris	Melbourne, Florida
11/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: Audio Image Concepts Two young men approached me outside of a Sports Authority offering a $3000 system for 90% off. Not very credible. One guy opened a box, showed me a knock off looking Bose speaker, and it felt very heavy, so I thought it might be legit. So I said, I want to go look up the brand using my iphone/google. Third listing "white van speaker scam"!!!! Not thanks. Gotta love information.
Nick	Fort Myers, Florida
11/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media labs They Got my attention in an intersection by telling me about some high end speakers they have. Since i drive a convertible sports car i was obvuously the perfect target. We pulled over and i took a loook at them. Everything seemed legit, The box was professional looking, I read over a magazine article about the speaker system and after being rushed, i stupidly agreed to buy them. I then proceeded to my bank and agreed to withdraw $300. They then asked me about Beer Money! because of the good deal and i gave them ten dollars. I feel soo stupid and i wish there was a way I could do some kind of investigation. I also have seen multiple victims like me who are trying to make some money back by selling them on EBAY Thanks for the Help, Nick
Julian	Foutlauderdale, Florida
11/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: genesis media labs well yes, I got scamed . i was day ligth around 3 pm when two guys aproached me and told me that they would have to get rid of some speakers, i was curios i look at them and they were worth 3,999. so he was gonna give me a good deal for those speakers, i agree and i paid them 400 ... when to the bank with them(thats the worst thing you can do you can get easely robbed) so give them the 400 dollars and i got some low quality speakers what a nice scamm!!!
Olin ross customer	Boca Raton, Florida
10/13/2008 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross, Eclipse Speakers So im driving down Yamato Rd (corner of yamato and dixie hwy) on the way to meet up with a buddy, and as I look up from selecting a song on my iPod at a red light, a guy on the passenger side of a silver SUV was waiving at me. Thinking he was lost and needed directions, I roll down my window to see what he wanted. He tells me hes got a $2000 speaker system in his car and needs to get rid of it as its an extra system and if he takes it back to the company they'll take it back but it was already paid for so he'd like to sell it off. Conveniently enough for him it was raining pretty bad to he tells me to pull in under a closed bank drive thru to check out the speakers. He and the driver (both big fat white guys, at LEAST 300 lbs a piece) get out and tell me their well thought out and elaborate story. APPARENTLY they had an extra, and his friend who is a postal worker couldn't hold on to it long enough for him to get home and eBay it himself, so he just wanted some cash that they could split between them. The speakers looked pretty legit, but being the cautious person I am, told them I wanted to call my buddy I was about to meet up being that he sells speakers for a living. They come up with this excuse that if his boss found out hell get fired and he wont be able to pay for his 9 y/o girls dinner (must have been thinking this over for a while, he should write scripts). The whole deal looked legit, with matching polo Olin Ross shirts, invoices to the ritz carlton for 2 speaker systems, magazines detailing the price. But they only pulled this paperwork out after I was reluctant to give them more than $100. After seeing the 'proof' they had I coughed up $300. When I finally met up with my buddy he said he had heard of the Eclipse speaker company and that the speakers werent worth more than $75, probably less. He also told me he had heard of the scam and without even telling him what had just happened he gave me their entire script as if it had been a movie he had just seen(Did they say they had an extra and needed to unload it casue their boss would take it otherwise?). I got their plate # but its probbaly useless. Boca PD seemed uninterested. I thought it was legit despite what my gut was telling me as ive heard every scam to date and not heard of this. It was very elaborate and even more believable. Im actually in sales myself and I wish I could find this guy just to offer him a job. Well, live and learn, at least I didnt give him %50 of the supposed MSRP :)
Amy	Naples, Florida
10/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs - G-6.1 Same as everyone else, pulled into a gas station said they had an extra system left over wanted to get rid of it before they picked up their boss so he would not get it. Gave them $130.00. Guess it could have beed worse. Lesson learned!
Steven	Hollywood, Florida
10/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs G-6.1 speakers. Guy in black SUV pulled up, and showed me an (fake) invoice. Said he was delivering it and they gave him an extra one. So... he sold it to me half off... You know... I try to live a good, honest life... and the one time I think I actually have a chance at something good...
Ben	Tampa, Florida
9/27/2008 Product or Service Involved: Epic Sound 5.1 Digital Series I stopped at a 7-11 on my way to work one night to get a drink when a a guy approached me and asked me if i wanted to buy a home surround system. There were 3 guys, one fat guy just stood there and didnt really do shit, the guy who initially approached me told me the whole deal about how they were audio installers and got an extra system from the manufacturer and needed to get rid of it fast. As he was telling me this the third one began walking towards us and acting like he was talking on the phone with his boss. As he approached he said his boss wanted to meet him in 15 minutes and they had to rush the deal to get there. I told the guy I would give him $200 for the speakers, he said 300, I said no, and he said how about $250. The guy on the phone was a fast talker, my first impression of him was a meth head, but what did i know? He came inside with me and i took the money out of the atm, I didnt give it to him until i made him give me his drivers license, i took down all the info on it, as well as the cars license plate. I paid the guy $260 for the speakers. I got to work and my boss told me what I had paid for and the whole scam and felt like an idiot. These guys were in a white car though, it was definitely not a rental, because there was all kinds of shit in the trunk of it. I will contact the Tampa police tomorrow, and see what I can do about getting my money back and getting rid of these shitty ass speakers. DO NOT BUY SHIT FROM METH HEADS IN A PARKING LOT>
J	Miami, Florida
9/20/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci I was at a McDonald's drive-in line, when two guys in a tan Avalanche SUV pull up next to me and ask me if I was interested in really good deal for a home theater system, his actual words were free. So I decided to check them out. I pull out of the line and go park. The guy, shows me a nice magazine from his company, Sound Creations, with the speakers from DiVince on it and the MSRP was $3200,the model was DV-6. He tells me that he had one left over from his delivery and needed to get rid of it before he had to meet with his boss to return the SUV. So I ask him how much does he want. He tells me $500 or what ever i can get from the bank ATM. At this point I'm thinking, these guy wants $500 dollars for a system I've never even heard of. So I tell him I already have a Sony one. Then he starts telling me it has a built in hard drive, which was a lie, cause i checked it out after i got home. And the other guy is telling me that it sells on ebay for like $2000, that i could make a really good profit. So tell him why doesn't he do that. Then I tell them I know that this is some type of scam and a waste of my time. So the just left. The only reason why i was interested in the first place is because he said free. These guys will say anything to sell you these speakers. Don't believe any of it. The worst part is that after these guys left the drive-in line was twice as long. Jokes aside, if it's to good to be true, it's cause it is.
n/a	panama city/pensacola, Florida
9/2/2008 Product or Service Involved: piece of shit speakers!!! THIS MUTHER FUCKER CAME UP TO ME IN A PARKING LOT IN PENSACOLA IN SOME PIECE OF SHIT MUSTANG....ASKING ME IF I WANTED TO BUY SOME SPEAKERS OR A HOME THEATER SYSTEM...WELL I DID I THINK I GAVE THE FAGOT ABOUT 100 BUCKS AND HE GAVE ME HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER AND SOME BULLSHIT SPEAKERS WITH NO AMP.. JUSTIN (SAID HE WAS IN THE SERVICE AT ONE TIME) FROM PANAMA CITY (WORKED FOR JKP SOUND) PHONE MUBER 850-753-6412 DRIVES A SHITY MUSTANG CONVERTABLE (GROUND EFFECTS 16 OR 17" WHEELS V-6 MOTOR AND FUCKED UP PAINT WHEN I SEE THIS MOTHER FUCKER IM BEATING HIS ASS..I KNOW WHERE HE GETS THESE SPEAKERS FROM OVER HERE AT SUDDOTH TRUST ME PEOPLE HE IS NOT SAFE AT ALL!! I HOPE THAT HE READS THIS POST AND KNOWS THAT IM NOT PLAYING THAT IM JUST WAITING TO SEE HIM DRIVE BY
dan	st petersburg, Florida
9/1/2008 Product or Service Involved: divinci idf40 my brother got ripped off on the surround system same way as everyone else. i see all the other complaints on this "brand" are from canada and this happened way down in florida. so they are obviously a growing industry....
V	North Miami Beach, Florida
8/21/2008 Product or Service Involved: Epic Sound 7.1 Approached me in Publix parking lot and tried to sell me some speakers, one black male,one latino... Red Chevy Blazer, said they needed to sell it to help pay for sick mother. Watch out people, call the cops if they approach you.
Elvis Pena	Miami, Florida
8/19/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Surround Sound This happened about 5 mins ago. I was outside of my house checking the mail when two white guys pull up in a small red what seems to be a honda hatchback. they caught my attention by talking loudly out the car with a "YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?" once I answered yes they were quick to act out in confidence. They both stated that they were doing a convention and that they had this great deal for me. it was what looked like a brand new box containing a "Genesis, home system". They told me that they had to get rid of it before they went back to their boss back at their station (they are supposedly from West Palm Beach). I told them that I had never even heard of genesis and thats when the passenger of the car stated "DUDE, these speakers are worth about 4,000 bucks!! can you give us maybe 200 - 300 dollars for it?" Mind you this whole conversation is going on while im standing next to their car in the middle of the street. I told them that I already had a surround system and they immidiately replied with "you can have another one for a good price" I then replied.... "What am I going to do with another set of surround sound speakers??? I would have to do exactly what they are doing and try to hussle them out!!!" Once I told them that the driver sort of looked at me for a second and said. "okay, you have a good day". and simply rode out. That interaction left me curious so as I walked back into my house I went online to find a website that actually shows the model they were trying to sell me. Its the model IM-3 http://genesismedialabs.com/compatiblesystemIM3.html Beware guys!
Lino Quagliariello	Bonita Springs, Florida
8/15/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci sound system I was leaving Home Depot in Bonita Springs, FL when this guy approaches me in a tan escalade (I believe) truck. Offered me the system but I just said no and came home to find the trouble I avoided by saying no....
Victor Ortiz	orlando, Florida
8/15/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis Media Labs So im rideing down 436 and semoran going twoards the airport a guy a white guy with glasses and a hat yelled at me talking about he has four speakers free on a delivery i ask him how much he said pull over i pulled over this guy was a fast talker he told me about the speakers and showed me the speakers he asked me if i hit an atm or go to the bank how much can i give him and his partner i didnt know what to say the box said it was worth 3,999 msrp i said 300 would be the most he said he wanted 800 i said thats to much so he showed me a magazine i said the most i can do is 400 this motherfucker sold me a pair of 90 dollar speakers for 400 dollars when i see him im going to beat him down his name is johnny popple his number is 407-914-3767 i know he lives in apopka i dont know where yet but when i find out i hope he will be ready Fuck Speaker Guys what you guys do isnt a hustle its a scam you mislead people you are scum you dont pay taxes you take advantage of people and to johnny you should be locked behind bars and raped your a loser i work for my money you lie for yours
Kyle	North Lauderdale, Florida
8/12/2008 Product or Service Involved: MTS Audio and DaVinci The white Van Speaker Scam is no stranger to The south Florida area. Not only have I and a couple of friends fallen for this scam but I still see these random guys prowling the streets today. My first offense was about a year ago when I actually purchased 2 speakers for 200$. Just recently, I have been approached once again in the same area for the same reason, a brand of speakers called MTS.
S-Orange	Orlando, Florida
7/29/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci 6030 Exact same story. 7-11 store on John Young Parkway, just south of SR 417 around Town Center Blvd. Two white males selling out the back of a silver Toyota Forerunner. 6-8 Sets of 5.1 surround sound speaker systems. Magazine showing $2,889 retail price. Started out at $800. I laughted and walked away, "$800 in a parking lot, yea right". So the other salesperson ran over to my truck with a set, cut open the box and showed them to me, "factory sealed, see the tape?" asked for anything. I really did'nt need them, but could throw them with my sons' tv & x-box, so paid $150. Also, followed me to the atm and stated "if you see me out, buy me a beer". Money exchanged hands and they got out of the parking lot before I even got back to my truck. Have'nt taken the system out of the box yet, I'll check it this weekend. Reading all of this, if it plays, I guess I should be happy, plus did'nt expect the world for $150 and no name brand, I guess...
Jose P	Miami, Florida
7/19/2008 In front of a wachovia bank. 2 white males very sincere sounding and nice people. 240 dollars for a system. The system doesnt work but the 5 speakers it comes with work . I want to find them. Lied straight to my face making up stories about his kids and wife. Green SUV
LearnTheHardWay	Fort Lauderdale, Florida
7/15/2008 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci home theatre It went down exactly as described by the others. A white expedition, a home theatre system with an msrp of $3599, an article in egear magazine touting its high-quality, and just my luck, they had 2 extra units that were loaded in the vehicle by mistake. I'm out $300. He would have sold me both units for $500. He even wrote me a receipt! I haven't even opened the box, it probably sounds ok but I already know from what I've read (on sites like this one) it won't sound like $3599 quality. I'm more angry with myself for allowing this to happen. This was an expensive lesson learned.
Jennifer	Jacksonville, Florida
7/13/2008 Product or Service Involved: White Van Speaker Sales I have an acquaintance that sells speakers. Not the kind where he works at Circuit City. He works with an illegal ring of guys between 20 and 30 years old who go around pretending that they are speaker delivery men selling really great speakers and they just so happened to get an "extra" set of free speakers (with the order) and they are so cool that they'll sell them to you for a really low price. They pay about $50 for the speakers (themselves) and try to hawk them from anywhere starting at $250 and attempt to get at least $3,000 for them. Anything above $250 is commission in their pocket. Usually the guy I know can get about $500-$1,000 for them, and they have laminated cards that prove (lol) that the speakers are worth 7 grand each or something. I was at a party with my friend Dana (Jan 7, 2006) in a warehouse one weekend and the acquaintance/speaker sales guy was spinning records and there were quite a few people. It turned out the warehouse was also the speaker guys' office. I happened to have my digital camera in my bag @ the party, and I saw these pictures on the wall detailing how the speaker salesmen should work their customers. I felt like sharing because it's supposed to be a huge secret and they're not allowed to talk about it. I think it's hilarious...but also ridiculous and foul...high pressure sales tactics but the merchandise is really lousy-50$ speakers. The following links are four (1 page each) pictures of white van speaker sales tactics that I photographed from an office wall in the speaker sales warehouse, and subsequently uploadeded into my photobucket account. If you want me to feel free to email me and I can send the pictures that way instead so they can be scanned by a virus program and stuff; then that's no problem-I know people can be wary of clicking on links. You can email me at Stuart24@UFl.EDU. "P.M.A. = O.P.M." Positive Mental Attitude = Other People's Money http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/Jarkjarkjark/Picture536.jpg "5 Steps to Success" http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/Jarkjarkjark/Picture542.jpg "The Eight Steps to Selling" http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/Jarkjarkjark/Picture541.jpg "Keep it Simple, Stupid" "Remember-if you talk long, then you talk wrong" http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/Jarkjarkjark/Picture544.jpg I just wanted to get the word out in case this information could help someone. At the very least, it's rather amusing if you ask me, and is supposedly information that "No one else is supposed to know." Hope this can be an informative and useful contribution to the board. Take care, cheers, J. Stuart
Deagle	Orlando, Florida
7/5/2008 Product or Service Involved: van speakers ive been looking and can't find any address to any of there spots in mid-orlando Florida. I'm seeing how hard you speaker guys talk on the net, I'd like to come see in person. give me a contact.
Calvin	Miami, Florida
6/23/2008 Product or Service Involved: EPIC 7.1 Sound System. Two guys in a red beat up compact car with four boxes of Epic 7.1 Sound System tried to sell me a box for 200 dollars. He claimed his boss gave them extra speakers and didnt know about it. One of them brought out a catalog with the speaker system showing a price of 2K. I said no thanks...never even heard of this brand. He was mad and drove off.
Diane	some rest area between SC and FLA, Florida
6/12/2008 Product or Service Involved: Devinci 6030 Damit Man...I told my husband NOT to buy that shit....He got tagged at a rest area between home and SC...Good Deal the guys said...showed the pic in the mag and MSRP was like 3,000 bucks...they told him they would let him have the system for 200.00...rofl...he was broke,so they said they would take 80.00 for it all...he did get to see the system though,he took it out of the box and everything...hahahah...MAN I can wait till he wakes up so I can say I TOLD YOU SO...YOU GOT SCAMED !!!..Live and learn...But you know what they say...If its to good to be true,then it probably is...Hes suck a dummy...but I get to laugh at him...hahahah
CC	Ocoee, Florida
6/11/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci D-52 I just got scam by 2 guys in the parking lot of LOWE'S in colonial drive, ocoee. 2 guys in a Black Navigator one of them was chubby and the other one normal, both were white. He stop me while I was entering to the parking lot at lowes, told me about some home theater speakers that the UPS guy delivered wrong etc etc and he had 2 of them, he was going to keep one but he need it $$ to get an storage or hotel room to put the speakers in , because he need it to return the navigator to his boss. He started at $700, and he show me the magazine with the speakers marked at $2299 etc etc. I told him I only had $100, I knew some was fishy because I know about speakers and the pictures looked cheap, but I just didn't believe I was going to get scam, well I got him $120. When I got home and put the model in google and saw how cheap they really are and all about the scam. Ebay sells them for $159 buy it now so at least I paid cheaper for them. Funny thing is that I was going to LOWES to buy wood and material to make me a nice 10" ported subwoofer box, I was going to spend less than $100 for sure but, the subwoofer box that came with the home theater looks pretty good made and it haves a nice cloth grill to cover the sub, I just need to replace sub and that's it. Heck people pay $100 for a q-logic box I just ended up getting free cheap surround speakers and the box I need it. The chubby guy told me, let's do $100 and if you see around buy me a beer. HAHAHA if I see him around he will need beer to forget me.
cry baby	miami, Florida
6/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: divinci This website makes me laugh... theres two ways parents raise their kids, when a kid burns himself on a stove the parent can do one of two things, console the kid and say it was the stoves fault or tell the kid he should know better and to get over it... WE ALL KNOW HOW U HOMOS WERE RAISED LOL....GET OVER IT U CRY BABYS...U pay $200 or less u got what u paid for, nething over that u over spent.. what is the point of this website?? does it hug u and tell you everything is going to be alright? move on with ur life.
nealry	boca raton, Florida
6/2/2008 Had a guy come up to me today when i was in a home depot car park, I was getting into the car and he got my attention while driving by. He gave me some dribble about doing deliveries and having a couple of speaker sets unclaimed. He showed me the boxes all sealed with the prices of over $3500 printed on them. He kept asking me to make an offer but seeing I didnt really want it I started to walk back to my car saying no thanks, but he followed and kept on shouting prices at me staring at $500 and going to $200 which just sounded so insane. I didnt back down and managed to get away, thinking they might have been worth something i looked them up when I got home. Luckily i got away, so im not rubbing it in I am just trying to warn people its moved to florida!
Juan	Treasure Island, Florida
6/1/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci kirsch,genesis epic dalton theater research Make sure you report this scam to : 1) Local Law enforcement 2) Attorney General 3) City and State Department of Revenue 4) IRS 5) Local TV or Newspapers Most of these SpeakerFleas 1) Do not obtain proper permits to "sell out of a Van" 2) use lies, fraud, trickery and intimidation to make a sale 3) Most do not collect,report or pay their required by law taxes for sales and income Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to: Internal Revenue Service Fresno, CA 93888 The speakers sold by the speakermen are of exceptionally poor quality, typically obtained for less than $50 from a local distributor. The speakers themselves have been reported as potentially damaging to any amplifier they are connected to. The risk of damage stems from an impedence curve that in some cases may drop below 2 ohms, which may overheat, short out, or permanently damage an amplifier not designed to handle such loads. Do a search for " white van speakers " you'll see how this scam goes Guy in suv or van drives up to you has these $3000 speakers , extras ?? You can have em for a deal you can't pass up . He will try to get you to give him $50 or more up to $1500.00 for these $40 china speakers. Look out for the guy in the suv with the cock and bull story about the extra home theater system he's got to unload. He will tell you it's worth something crazy like 2000 or 3000 dollars show all kinds of crap like receipts , invoices , magazines , ads sheets, etc. He'll even point you to the company website to prove they are worth the 3 grand. Don't be fooled ! So when he lowers his price to $100.00 you'll think you got the deal of a lifetime. $3000 speakers for $ 100 bucks , no you got a crap set of $40 speakers and paid $100 or more for them. Just do a search for "white van speakers" and you'll see that not only are they worth only 40 bucks shipped from china , they may also be UNSAFE and damage your system. Many of the sales take place in the parking lots of Best Buy, Home Depot, Circuit City , Banks , Carwashes , Gas Stations , Construction sites , etc heck they will even flag you down while you are driving down the road. Law enforcement WILL issue citations, as rarely do the speakerguys obtain the proper permits and license to sell "out of a vehicle". In Pennsylvania, the act of selling white van speakers is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to a fine of $10,000 . White Van Speaker List Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audiofile THX 6.1 Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV 5.1 THX DanWave DW-6 DanWave DW-606 DanWave DW-607 DanWave DW-608 Dan Wave DW-1000 http://www.divincisound.com Divinci Sound DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass Divinci Sound D6 D-6 Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010 Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030 Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505 Divinci Sound DA6.1 DA-6.1 Divinci D-52 Divinci DV-606 Divinci DV-607 Divinci DV-608 Divinci DV-1420 Divinci DV-1450 Divinci DV-1412 Divinci DV-1450 Divinci DV- 607 Divinci DV-2150 Divinci DV-2100 Denmark Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio DHT 5.1 Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio 2002 Digital Audio 2012 7.1 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Digital Research DR-1000 Digital Research DR-2810 Digital Research DR-1610 Digital Research DR-1611 Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G-6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis G-1630 Genesis G-2810 Genesis G-2815 Genesis R-2810 Genesis G-2840 Genesis G-2850 Genesis G-2870 Genesis G-2875 Genesis G-2880 Genesis G-2885 Genesis G-2950 Genesis G-2960 Genesis G-6030 Genesis G-6035 Genesis G-6040 Genesis G-7012 http://www.genesismedialabs.com Grafdale Hauffman Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio Kirsch K3 Kirsch K10 Kirsch Prodigy K803 http://www.kirschloudspeakers.com Linear Phase studio monitors http://matrixaudioconcepts.com Matrix Audio Concepts Matrix MX-1300 MX1300 MX1300S MX-404 MX-550 MX-6160 MX-2060 MX-605S Millenium Millenium MTS-2006p Millenium MTS-2208 Millenium MTS-2328 Millenium MTS-2300 Millenium MTS-2605 Millenium MTS-3100 Millenium MTS-3200 http://www.mtsspeakers.com Omni Audio PSD (2.8) PTS PT-5500S PTS (Precision Transducer Systems) http://www.ptswoofers.com Palermo VA6.1 Palermo VA 6.1 Paradyme Pro Audio Pro Dynamics Pro Platinium Series Pro Dynamics PD-9600 Proline Acoustic Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers Samurai 518 Skyline AD-900SL Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series" Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) TI-440MR TI~440MR TI-440R TI~440R TI-440M TI~440M TI-5100 TI~5100 TI-5150T TI~5150T TI~1250 TI-1250 TI~1255 TI-1255 TI~1300 TI-1300 TI~1650 TI-1650 TI~1655 TI-1655 TI~6000SD TI-6000SD TI~6100 TI-6100 TI~1750 TI-6200 http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research DS-6.1 Theater Research TR-12 Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-502 Theater Research TR-504 Theater Research TR-505 Theater Research TR-602 Theater Research TR-603 Theater Research TR-604 Theater Research TR-605 Theater Research TR-606 Theater Research TR-607 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1100 Theater Research TR-1101 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-1610 Theater Research TR-1611 Theater Research TR-1620 Theater Research TR-1621 Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR-5160 Theater Research TR-6000 Theater Research TR-6020 Theater Research TR-6030 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research TR-6120 Theater Research TR-7010 Theater Research TR-8010 Theater Research TR-8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs Bought speakers out of the back of a van or suv ? We found the guy that's been ripping people off. Robert M Sullivan dob June 03, 1968 Suckered by the white van speaker guys ...... To file a consumer complaint online, please click below, fill out the form and click "Send." http://myfloridalegal.com/Contact.nsf/Contact?OpenForm&Section=Economic_Crimes If you prefer to print out and mail your complaint via the postal mail instead, please use the form below. If you choose to mail your complaint, please complete the form, attach copies of any paperwork (do not send originals), and return the completed form to: Office of the Attorney General PL-01 The Capitol Tallahassee, Florida 32399-1050 Telephone: (850) 414-3990 Toll Free within Florida: 1-866-966-7226 Most, if not all DO NOT pay their taxes or required taxes ! All sales of new or used goods from locations in Florida are subject to sales and use tax Rule 12-A-1.060 Any person who sells new or used goods from a location in Florida, such as flea markets, carts, vehicles, temporary stands, booths and roadside locations. Merchants/Vendors are required to: register with the Florida Department of Revenue as sales tax dealers before engaging in business and collect tax from the purchasers at the time of sale and remit taxes collected directly to the Department of Revenue Report all phone numbers , names and any other info to the Department of Revenue To speak with a Department of Revenue representative, call Taxpayer Services, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 7 p.m., ET, at 800-352-3671. Florida Department of Revenue 168A Blountstown Hwy Tallahassee FL 32304-2702 References: Rule 12A-1.060, F.A.C.; Rule 12A-1.039, F.A.C. Article No: 1797 (Revised: 10/18/2006 ) Out-of-state contractor doing a job in Florida need to register for sales and use tax in Florida? Reference: S. 212.14(5), F.S. References: Rule 12A-1.060, F.A.C.; Rule 12A-1.039, F.A.C. Article No: 1802 (Revised: 10/18/2006 ) Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to: Internal Revenue Service Fresno, CA 93888
Tool Daddy	None, Florida
5/30/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genisis and another Tow dudes in a hatch back SUV with a Genesis set, and some other complete set for a surround sound system, same BS, movers, got them free, trying to get rid of them, had a MSRP book, the whole deal, we goggles the product on the spot, and the shit was going for cheap on EBAY, its was the same scam, claimed to be a movers from the ATL, the location was off NW Broward by Knob hill
speakerdude	None, Florida
5/24/2008 speakerman forum http://speakermen.usersboard.net/
Stephen Lee	Sarasota , Florida
5/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: Epic-600 5.1 home theater What's up with this? Does the system not work? I just bought the system from these guys an hour ago they were driving a white cadillac escalade license plate number 4AF 98H...What is the deal with this scam?
Florida transplant	Largo, Florida
5/4/2008 Sully, You'll do anything for attention. You ARE a ROCKSTAR!!! Hope all is well. dm
sam johnson	miami, Florida
5/2/2008 Product or Service Involved: who cares All of you who gripe are a bunch of girls in the first place... who forced you to buy? Think about it for a moment, no one!!!! That's right, you made the decision on your own. All we do is present the deal...you idiots choose to buy!!! Don't be upset because your mind got controlled and demolished for 5 minutes (usually less with my ducks). MORE SINGLE SET GRANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA.... Suckas!!!!!!!!!!!!
DL	Coral Gables, Florida
5/1/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis G-609 speakers 2 guys in an SUV asked if I wanted to buy some speakers that they got for free. This was in the Walgreen's parking lot next to Home Depot on US1. The price on the box said 4,800 but they were willing to part with them for 800. I offered 100 or so but that was too low. Anyway, these days I don't buy anything of that value without doing a search on the internet. However, a couple of years ago I did buy some speakers out of a van for $200 after talking the price down from $400. They were supposed to be worth around 1200. Turns out they were worth exactly what I paid for them. But they worked fine and I used them for a few years.
d.p.	Apopka, Florida
4/29/2008 I did a search and found out someone got the information of the speaker scammers who drive the green GMC Yukon: Green Yukon - Florida Plate # C60 3UR Robert M Sullivan dob June 03 , 1968 Phone 303-618-0975 They can scam and run, but they can't hide!
Allen	Apopka, Florida
4/29/2008 2 white males in a a green Yukon SUV with plate number C60 3UR tried to sell me speakers at Wekiva Springs and 436 intersection in Apopka, FL. I told them to watch out because a lot of people know about their scam and they tried to pretend they didn't know what I was talking about. Apparently the cops know about them and others have had run ins with these guys.
m.b.	coral gables, Florida
4/25/2008 Product or Service Involved: matrix audio mx-505t exactly as all the other one's i've read. this happened in a blockbuster video. dropped off my movies and a younger guy asked if i lived around here/could use a surround sound system. showed me the box, even opened it to show there was real stuff inside. showed me an "invoice" saying the stuff had been paid for, the warehouse just accidentally gave them a "pair" of surround sound set-ups, instead of just one. asked how much, i said 200, ended up paying 300. got home to google the thing and found out about the scam. i feel like a retard but its nice to know im not alone. i did call the nonemergency police and told the bb store manager what happened and that he needed to save the video from the parking lot. remember - IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS!
dcw	Tampa , Florida
4/24/2008 Product or Service Involved: Davinci 7-10 home theater Same story! My boyfriend was approached by two men in a black Escalade at The Home Depot. They gave some story about having received an extra system. The suckered my boyfriend by showing him the MSRP of $3599. He paid $400 cash and one of the speakers were missing! From what we can tell, the system doesn't work that well!
Sucka	pembroke pines, Florida
4/24/2008 assholes in a van. "got extra speakers". showed invoice. followed to bank to get cash. $400.00 and now i am Screwed! this was in front of LOWE'S dont be fooled. white american kids south african accent. if i see them again i am going to shove their speakers up their ass!
j ray	jacksonville, Florida
4/21/2008 Product or Service Involved: matrix home theater 9901 I GUESS THIS SCAM IS NATION WIDE. MY HUSBAND JUST PURCHASED A THEATER SYSTEM FROM SOME GUY IN A PARKING LOT IN JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. HE SHOWED HIM THE 2300.00 PRICE TAG, and my husband offered him 200.00. it was a brand new complete home theater system. we have not hooked it up yet but i am pretty sure there is something wrong.
Romano Andres	Coral Gables, Florida
4/11/2008 It happened to me yesterday in Coral Gables, Florida at 1.30 pm. I went to the University of Miami to have lunch and on the way to go back to my English school just next to the McDonald's parking lot it happened. It was an exiting car (Cadillac Escalade SUV)and a guy opened the window to ask me if I wanted a home theater for very cheap. There were three of them(white and apparently clean) in the SUV. There were three or four boxes in the back of the car. The speech was exactly the one that we can find on this link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_speakers. The price on the box was 2'699 USD. I told them that I'm here for a couple of months and I don't really need this product. One guy asked me how much I could give them for the devices. I replied not more than two or three hundred. The guys were really disapointed. He said you can't really give us more than 600 USD (because they thought I wanted to give 200 USD for each guy)? I said no I can only give two or three hundred, not more. They said I looked like an honest guy so they would give it to me but they had to go to an ATM to see the maximum I can give them. I took out two hundred (I already had one hundred in my wallet). The guys were really sad and disapointed when I said I couldn't afford to give them more. They said it's ok i'm such a cool guy so they would give it to me for that price. One of those guys helped me carry it to my school. Then when I gave the money to him he asked me for extra money for beer. I gave him 10 bucks. at first I would have never thought it was fake device but maybe there were no devices were in the box but another product. So I directly opened it. All the stuff was into the box. When I came back to my apartment I opened the box to fix up all the stuff. Suddenly I realized that no cables for the speakers were in the box. So I decided to check on the Internet if I could find it. And finally I found the wikipedia article and i felt really bad because it was exactly the same story. The only difference is that it was a Cadillac SUV instead of the white van. I bought it because I wanted to help those guys. They were cool. I tought that I could sell it easily to somebody when I leave the country.
John Doe	Ft. Myers, Florida
4/8/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis My friend and I were at the gas station outside of walmart when two guys in a pickup truck came up to us with a bunch of stereo speaker sets in the back. They told us the line that it was extra shipment and he had to sell it before he went back to the warehouse in Tampa. I knew it was a line of BS, Im from NY I see "off-the delivey truck" stuff all the time. But I didnt think it was a scam. So my friend ended up buying a set that MSRP at $2,999, which we knew wasnt right, for $140 cuz he wasnt about to go higher. It had all the paper work, website(that worked). We got home, hooked it up, it deffinetly didnt look like $3,000 stereo. But it sounds great and still works perfect 5 months later. So there are no complaints here, except that I have to tell him to turn the volume down all the time cuz its louder than my tv.
trent kildare (trentkildare83@yahoo.com)	winter park, Florida
4/3/2008 I used to go to Rollins College in Winter Park Florida (a suberb of orlando). One day I was walking to class and these guys in a white van drove by me slowly. One of the guys in the van (there were two of them) Yelled to me "Hey, dude! You want some free speakers?!" I just kept on walking. Then he yelled "Hold on, i'll pull over!" He pulled over and like an idiot, i approached them. I told the guy that i was on my way to class and he said "it's ok. You can be 20 minutes late". That's when i realized this was not a nice guy. I don't remember the company he said he worked for but he showed me a receipt and told me he had extra speakers left over and if i wanted them. I didn't have the balls to tell him no, so i just told him i already had speakers. He said "but these are great speakers." Then as an excuse i told him i just moved into a new place and had no room for them (which was true). Then he said "but these speakers are placed on the walls." As he reached into the van, i guess his associates seat was in the way and he yelled to him "Dude, put your fuckin seat up so i can get the speakers!" (What great salesman etiqeutte!) He kept pushing and pushing and i kept making excuses until finally he says to me "Dude, i'm gonna fuckin hit you in your face!" I asked him "What's your problem?" He yelled "youre my fucking problem!" As he got back in the van and drove away i yelled to them sarcastically "Thanks for your great offer, i really appreciate it!" One other time in a publix parking lot another white van appraoched me and the guy asked if i wanted speakers. This time i firmly said no and kept facing in the dirction i was walking. The key here is "JUST SAY NO!" Don't make excuses. Don't trust them. Theyre criminals. JUST SAY NO!
Jack Quinn	West Palm Beach, Florida
3/31/2008 Product or Service Involved: Kirsch K2030 Home Audio Here's another idiot - just got taken by this same scam except not in PA but in West Palm Beach FL and it was a blue van instead of a white one.
CALI COWBOY!	CALIFORNIA!, Florida
3/29/2008 Product or Service Involved: I have alot more than both of you together. You think you have money and do it big? LOL! I have alot more than you! I have seen your pics, now are you ready for mine, I will give you current photos of today of my pad, my 6 rides, my tahoe, suburban, escalade, yukon xl, cadi seville, buick skylark. I have more money in one of my trucks than you do in your vet. True your vet is faster but mine will run you and your car the fuck over. Ive also been sellin sets for 10 years, I dont pay 270, I pay the same as you from Christina and Glen. Funny thing is I see them everyday and Ive never heard about you. I ask all the time who sells the most and they say I do. So to the nip and the fat white guy who have not one bit of street hustle in their vains. FUCK YOU! I was being cool and helping you to fleas out. Now its time I called my SOUTH PARK homeboys and get you two flames straight CALI jacked. MR top shelf audio, all you do is ruin the hustle for us true speakermen, with your buy it now for 199.00, you two internet whores are going to get fucked like the bitches you are. I HAVE MORE MONEY, MORE SKILLZ, MORE TOYS, MORE TOYS, SO HAVE A GOOD ONE, anytime you want pics, or if you have a myspace, I'll hit you up on that.
John	Sebastian, Florida
3/27/2008 Product or Service Involved: Matrix Audio Concepts MX-1300 yeah, these speakers suck.. I had 2 floor speakers already from the 70's that are clearer than these..
Steve	Orlando, Florida
3/26/2008 I was going into a gas station and got yelled at by a guy in a white van. Same scam i've been reading. Finally the guy said that I could have the speakers if I just paid the $200 they needed to store the rest of their speakers so they wouldn't just lost them since this is "extra inventory" and this "never happens." Yea, fuck those guys. Hopefully I can get my money back.
Nicole	Miami, Florida
3/26/2008 Product or Service Involved: Matrix Audio Concepts grrr.... i just bought these speakers from what looked like legitimate guys for $100 each. I figured i would sell them to someone else and make my money back. Turns out that wont be an option all i did was type in the manufacturer and read about the scam. Sucks alot because i def. couldnt be spending that money.
Brandon	Davie, Florida
3/19/2008 Product or Service Involved: Epic surround sound 7.1 i fell into the trap too..two tan greasy italians or spanish backrounds..driving a chevy trial blazer newer model..beige color..they caught me in homedepot area and said they had a great deal on surround sound speakers and showed me the magazine(list price)2,000--they wanted 430..they followed me to my atm..i thought about it on the way to my bank and didnt want to pay that much for somin i didnt kno about..so i took out 200 and said that was all i could get out! they had to talk amongs eachother and came to the agreement for take the 200. the speakers have a popping sound at high output..no worries ..its only 200 but posting this ..i hope will help others..and when i do see them..they will get wats comin for them!
AFC	Surrounding Area, Florida
3/7/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci "Dman & Choo info" Visit this site: http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/vendor/tpsearch1.html Then type this number in [taxpayer number]: 32020160266 He also sells on ebay as: topshelfaudio2007 & swhifidelity. His you tubeaccounts are: speakermanchoo and choopak1 myspace.com/josephchoo Plate for corvette used:359-VRS Plate for red tahoe used:84L-BJ3 Choo will give refunds!!
choo dman	florida, Florida
3/4/2008 Product or Service Involved: cowboy from kali whatever bro, put up your clip board and prove me wrong, really man, do you think, im worrying about a video, when we got a sale for 500-800 getting closed, asked about us, call glenn, or kristina, ask who buys and sells the most, lets see your flea bag show...in dallas we dont hop around, people here are slow....and we go with the flow, take a road trip to here and find out, ive been a indi for 10 years....what do you got to show for it....give me a untracable email...and ill show you MY NEW Zo6 vette, fully built, my tahoe, house, hell ill even show you a screen shot of my bank account...go sell a 200, and suck a nut ya flea...ill retrain your ass...sorry excuse for a speakerboy, you probaly pay 250 a set, i pay 70.00...yeahy die in a fire...ya flea britch
Rich	Coral Gables, Florida
3/3/2008 Product or Service Involved: Surround Sound System I was attending the University of Miami. I was walking through a parking lot to class and this guy approached me and asked me if I had a minute. I said yes. I thought he was going to ask me how to get somewhere on campus, but he took me to this white van. This creeped me out a little bit, but when I saw it was loaded with boxes, I knew I couldn't fit in there. Anyway, he was telling me that his company got an over-shipment of surround sound speaker systems and his boss sent them out to unload them. The speakers had a big price tag on them, i believe it was $1200. I told him I didn't have any money. He kept trying to get me to buy them. He started at $500, I told him I only had a little bit of money to my name. He then asked me how much I could give him. I said (just for fun) $100. He said okay. I guess these dumb bastards will do anything. So I said to him okay, let me go to the ATM and take it out. I also told them I would be right back. I made like I was walking to the ATM and walked right past it. I might as well have turned around and given them the finger. I'm so happy I avoided this scam as I have already been a victim; one where I was conned out of $20 (the old "I need some gas" trick), and the other where I was not dumb enough to be conned (Nigerian 4-1-9 scam).
Cowboy from Cali!	Florida, Florida
3/1/2008 Product or Service Involved: Same as the video You two meats Dman and choo! You need to give a solid set price. Your show was mediocor at best, I will put my pitch, show, and closes on here soon to show you how a true speakerman slams. Be more direct, a bit more personable and cram it down. You two need to be retrained by the best in the biz, Im not talking Ratt gadow, his offices are all closed, lol. Im talking COWBOY the best in the west!!! Let me know if you want me to send you a video on how the cow does it. Keep it up though, I'll be down in Texas in a couple of years, we'll all tear it up, STFO, pitch to show, show to slam!!!!
j harris	naples, Florida
2/29/2008 Product or Service Involved: davinci dv-6030 two guys with a white pick-up approached me on an instilation job. told me that they were doing surround sound instillation job and had a couple left over units off their inventory and said that they would sell it to me at cost. i only had a 150.00 on me. they took it. i got home and hooked it up to find out what a piece of shit it is. the phone number to the company is no help. they refused to help- me. this sucks. first time that i have been scammed. it sucks. hope that this helps someone else out..
Manson Shahdath	Miami Beach, Florida
2/28/2008 Product or Service Involved: Matrix MX-1300 speakers and Theater Logic L5ti surrounding system I was approached by three guys in Blue SUV in Downtown Miami. While I was in my car, they were telling me they got some good speakers. They stopped and showed me a box that was already opened. They said to me, "We have to unload these speakers because we got some extra." It all look so real. they told me it was 7.1 speaker. I gave them $300 dollars for two tower speakers. On the box it was labeled $3,400. It seemed very authentic. I didn't buy them at the spot. I took them to my house because I didn't have any space in my car. It was loaded. Later I found out it all was a scam. On the box it says 5.1 not 7.1. The speakers don't even have proper cables. I got ripped off BADLY. Here is the thing, to go to my house everybody has to pass through a security gate where every car's tag is recorded. So I will be able get their tag. Now I need help with what I can do to get these guys. Many innocent people are falling for this scam. These guys are making a living out of this. Here's a video of this guy on YouTube. It's the same guy. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Zx1V6JpFRY
Divinci Scammed What can you do ?	Florida, Florida
2/24/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci D-7 MTS-4200 Genesis G-6030 etc What can you do ? Report it ! To file a consumer complaint online, please click below, fill out the form and click "Send." http://myfloridalegal.com/Contact.nsf/Contact?OpenForm&Section=Economic_Crimes If you prefer to print out and mail your complaint via the postal mail instead, please use the form below. If you choose to mail your complaint, please complete the form, attach copies of any paperwork (do not send originals), and return the completed form to: Office of the Attorney General PL-01 The Capitol Tallahassee, Florida 32399-1050 Telephone: (850) 414-3990 Toll Free within Florida: 1-866-966-7226 Most, if not all DO NOT pay their taxes or required taxes ! All sales of new or used goods from locations in Florida are subject to sales and use tax Rule 12-A-1.060 Any person who sells new or used goods from a location in Florida, such as flea markets, carts, vehicles, temporary stands, booths and roadside locations. Merchants/Vendors are required to: register with the Florida Department of Revenue as sales tax dealers before engaging in business and collect tax from the purchasers at the time of sale and remit taxes collected directly to the Department of Revenue Report all phone numbers , names and any other info to the Department of Revenue To speak with a Department of Revenue representative, call Taxpayer Services, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 7 p.m., ET, at 800-352-3671. Florida Department of Revenue 168A Blountstown Hwy Tallahassee FL 32304-2702 References: Rule 12A-1.060, F.A.C.; Rule 12A-1.039, F.A.C. Article No: 1797 (Revised: 10/18/2006 ) Out-of-state contractor doing a job in Florida need to register for sales and use tax in Florida? Reference: S. 212.14(5), F.S. References: Rule 12A-1.060, F.A.C.; Rule 12A-1.039, F.A.C. Article No: 1802 (Revised: 10/18/2006 ) Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to: Internal Revenue Service Fresno, CA 93888 If you do not wish to use Form 3949-A, you may send a letter to the address above. Please include the following information, if available: Name and address of the person you are reporting The taxpayer identification number (social security number for an individual or employer identification number for a business) A brief description of the alleged violation, including how you became aware of or obtained the information The years involved The estimated dollar amount of any unreported income Your name, address and daytime telephone number Although you are not required to identify yourself, it is helpful to do so. Your identity can be kept confidential. Guy in suv or van drives up to you has these $3000 speakers , extras ?? You can have em for a deal you can't pass up . He will try to get you to give him $50 or more up to $1500.00 for these $40 china speakers. Look out for the guy in the suv with the cock and bull story about the extra home theater system he's got to unload. Many of the sales take place in the parking lots of Best Buy, Home Depot, Circuit City , Banks , Carwashes , Gas Stations , Construction sites , etc Get your phone out , Take a PICTURE , get the PLATE number and CALL the Local POLICE !! Law enforcement WILL issue citations, as rarely do the speakerguys obtain the proper permits and license to sell "out of a vehicle". In Pennsylvania, the act of selling white van speakers is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to a fine of $10,000 . Many places have video surveillance equipment installed, making video evidence of the act likely. A "scambuster" with a local newspaper or television news department might also be interested. Here's one of many reviews I found ... I've been involved in the audio industry for over 25 years, and have to say that these speakers have the worst components I've ever seen. As someone who has built and repaired speakers, and written published audio reviews well before the Internet came around, I am appalled at the chutzpah shown by manufacturers and sellers of this junk. The 'reviews' and 'guides' that speak positively of these things have undoubtedly been posted by those who stand to profit from the sale of these inferior items. Take the Kirsch, Theatre Research, Genesis Media Labs (Genesis PHYSICS was a good brand in the 1980's) and DiVinci speakers, with their glossy ads and websites full of meaningless techno-babble and claims of outrageous 'retail' prices - not that any reputable retailer would carry these dogs. There are good reasons why they are mostly sold out of the back of white vans, and here, where comparison to good equipment is impossible. Most recently peddlers of the Genesis Media Lab and DiVinci's have trumpeted an ad taken out by the company, and purchase of a booth at an electronics show as evidence that this is an established brand-when you have the kind of profit margins based upon $ 50 worth of components in a "$ 3600" package, I suppose you can afford a booth or an ad. Imagine if a peddler of fake Rolexes', or 'Rolex quality' watches posted a website claiming that their junk that cost maybe $ 50 to manufacture is worth thousands - that is basically the case we have here. I've had the opportunity to take apart a number of these speakers, and all I can say is if you read Wikipedia and other search results you obtain from Googling the term "White Van Speakers' or 'White Van Scam' the conclusion that the components are of 'exceptionally poor quality' is well founded. For example, as I write this, there are at least 3 pairs of the "K803 Prodigy" speakers being posted on E Bay for $ 1500 or more, yet superior drivers (the speaker drivers -woofers, tweeters, midranges and the like) can be had for $ 15 or less per driver. The internal electronics such as the crossovers, are by far, the absolute worst I've ever seen in nearly 3 decades as a hobbyist. The DiVinci hucksters have the nerve to advertise their 'high energy crossover', which is a $2 piece of junk - a good crossover is complex, not inexpensive, and is critical to sound quality. Even the glossy cabinets are made of cheap, lightweight wood, whose resonances distort the already awful sound, and lack the internal bracing you will find on quality speakers. The drivers on the Kirsch and DiVinci "$ 3000 pair" (K803- DiVinci 1740-Dahlton- same speaker) are pretty much the same as on another set of these towers sold under an earlier "White Van Scam" name that a friend bought for $ 59 in a local pawn shop- one set of DiVinci's' is listed for $ 2500 buy it now - that is on line piracy. Just for fun, we compared these Kirsch 803 beasts' to a pair of Infinty SM-255's bought off of E Bay for $ 300, using both analogue and digital sources, receivers and high end separate electronics. A sound level meter was used to ensure that the listening occured at the same volume level. One of the girlfriends said it best : the Kirsch sounded like a clock radio compared to the Infinity's and one thought that a clock radio might sound better. Technical measurements confirmed what our ears told us - a ragged response curve that is the worst I've ever seen, bar none. Maybe it was unfair - the Infinity's weigh 77 pounds versus 28 for the Klipsch... er Kirsch - but then the Kirsch is a $ 3000 speaker, the Infinities were $ 1000 new ... the weight alone should tell you just what junk the White Van Speakers are. We also compared the Kirsch with a vintage set of Klipsch KG-3.5's which you can get for around $ 200-250 - needless to say they blew the K-803 Prodigy away. We've also performed listening tests comparing the "$ 2495"- oh please - Kirsch K3 home theatre system to a vintage set of Infinity Qb speakers dating back to the 1980's, which you can buy for $ 150 or so; a Samsung Home Theatre in a box and to Logitech Z-5300 and Klipsch Pro Media 5.1 computer speakers, hooked to a 5.1 receiver via the headphone jack ( a decent option for a small room). Experienced listeners suggested the best use of the Kirsch's was as a boat anchor or firewood, kids unanimously preferred the other sets and as one eloquently put it - ' the fancy ones stink like poo.' You would be much better off with a used set from Energy, Polk, or another quality speaker company. I also had the (dis) pleasure of listening to a set of the "$ 3600" DiVinci's often posted here - even the best electronics cannot make a silk purse out of these sow's ears. We compared the DiVinci 607 model to a Polk RM-6800 5.1 home theater set up that can be had for $ 400 or less- $3200 less than theDiVinci's so called retail value. It was no contest-- as my 12 year old put it 'where did all the instruments go' - there was no category- NONE- imaging, detail, tightness of bass- you name it- where the DiVinci's were remotely competitive. Not only are the speakers unspeakably bad, the 'receivers' included with the DiVinci, Theatre Research, Digital Research and other "White Van Brands' lack even basic AV functions such as Dolby and DTS processing, and HDMI and component video outputs -as well as measuring and sounding horribly - try watching "Master and Commander" with one of these pieces of 'bleep'- a used Denon, Yamaha or Onkyo at any price is light years superior. With profit margins that would make oil companies jealous, I can see where they could now buy ads in magazines - one E Bay posting claims they are an 'established high end speaker' - you would have to be high to consider these anything but the low level junk they are. Scam is not a strong enough term, and these have earned their place on rip-off report.com White Van Speakers Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audiofile THX 6.1 Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV 5.1 THX DanWave DW-6 DanWave DW-606 DanWave DW-607 DanWave DW-608 Dan Wave DW-1000 http://www.divincisound.com Divinci Sound DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass Divinci Sound D6 D-6 Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010 Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030 Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505 Divinci Sound DA6.1 DA-6.1 DA-6.1 PRO Series III Divinci DAV-6.1 Divinci DV-2098 Divinci IDF-40 Divinci DV-108 Divinci DV-208 Divinci D-52 Divinci DV-606 Divinci DV-607 Divinci DV-608 Divinci DV-1420 Divinci DV-1450 Divinci DV-1412 Divinci DV-1450 Divinci DV- 607 Divinci DV-2150 Divinci DV-2100 Denmark Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio DHT 5.1 Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio 2002 Digital Audio 2012 7.1 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Digital Research DR-1000 Digital Research DR-2810 Digital Research DR-1610 Digital Research DR-1611 Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G-6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1260 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis G-1630 Genesis G-2810 Genesis G-2815 Genesis R-2810 Genesis G-2840 Genesis G-2850 Genesis G-2870 Genesis G-2875 Genesis G-2880 Genesis G-2885 Genesis G-2950 Genesis G-2960 Genesis G-6030 Genesis G-6035 Genesis G-6040 Genesis G-7012 http://www.genesismedialabs.com IM-67 IM-66 IM-4 IM-3 IM-2 G-611 G-610 G-608 G-505 G-7012 G-508 G-506 G-6030 G-6.1 G-2860 G-2810 G-2800 G-1620 G-Z3 G-9812 Grafdale Hauffman Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio Kirsch K3 Kirsch K10 Kirsch Prodigy K803 http://www.kirschloudspeakers.com Linear Phase studio monitors http://matrixaudioconcepts.com Matrix Audio Concepts Matrix MX-1300 MX1300 MX1300S MX-404 MX-550 MX-6160 MX-404 MX-505T MX-550 MX-605S MX-605T MX-6160T MX1300 MX1300S Millenium Millenium MTS-2006p Millenium MTS-2208 Millenium MTS-2328 Millenium MTS-2300 Millenium MTS-2605 Millenium MTS-3100 Millenium MTS-3200 Millenium MTS-4200 Millenium MTS DR-5200 http://www.mtsspeakers.com Omni Audio PSD (2.8) PTS PT-5500S DA 5.1 Pro Series III SHOCK 5.1 PT-5000S DR-1000 DR-8000 DA2000SL MI4000A/B AD-1200SL SL-900 DR-2810 SL-800 DR-1620 (Towers) AD-700SL DR-1610 (Towers) PT-5500 DR8600 PDA-2012 PTS (Precision Transducer Systems) http://www.ptswoofers.com Palermo VA6.1 Palermo VA 6.1 Paradyme Pro Audio Pro Dynamics Pro Platinium Series Pro Dynamics PD-9600 Proline Acoustic Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers Samurai 518 Skyline AD-900SL Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series" Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) TI-440MR TI~440MR TI-440R TI~440R TI-440M TI~440M TI-5100 TI~5100 TI-5150T TI~5150T TI~1250 TI-1250 TI~1255 TI-1255 TI~1300 TI-1300 TI~1650 TI-1650 TI~1655 TI-1655 TI-4000 TI~6000SD TI-6000SD TI~6100 TI-6100 TI~1750 TI-6200 http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research DS-6.1 Theater Research TR-12 Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-502 Theater Research TR-504 Theater Research TR-505 Theater Research TR-602 Theater Research TR-603 Theater Research TR-604 Theater Research TR-605 Theater Research TR-606 Theater Research TR-607 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1100 Theater Research TR-1101 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-1610 Theater Research TR-1611 Theater Research TR-1620 Theater Research TR-1621 Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 TR 504 TR 505 TR 6030 TR 2930 TR 2940 TR 1420 TR 2830 TR 2840 TR 2850 TR 2860 TR 1100-1101 TR 1610-1611 TR 1620-1621 TR 2810 TR-2811 TR 12 TR-2630 TR-2631 TR-2900 DS 6.1 TR 501 TR 502 TR 503 TR 602 TR 603 TR 604 TR 605 TR 6020 TR 6120 TR 7010 TR 8000 TR-8200 TR 606 TR 607 TR 504 TR 505 TR 6030 TR-3015 TR-3215 TR-0412 TR-9500 TR-9700 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR-5160 Theater Research TR-6000 Theater Research TR-6020 Theater Research TR-6030 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research TR-6120 Theater Research TR-7010 Theater Research TR-8010 Theater Research TR-8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audiofile THX 6.1 Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV5.1 THX DanWave DW-6 DanWave DW-606 DanWave DW-607 DanWave DW-608 DW608 Dan Wave DW-1000 http://www.divincisound.com Divinci Sound DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass Divinci Sound D6 D-6 Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010 Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030 Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505 Divinci Sound DA6.1DA-6.1 Divinci D-52 Divinci DV-1450 Denmark Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio DHT 5.1 Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio 2002 Digital Audio 2012 7.1 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Digital Research DR-1000 Digital Research DR-2810 Digital Research DR-1610 Digital Research DR-1611 Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Epic Sound Innovative Sound & Bass Epic-7.1 Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis G-1630 Genesis G-2815 Genesis G-2840 Genesis G-2850 Genesis G-2870 Genesis G-2875 Genesis G-2880 Genesis G-2885 Genesis G-2950 Genesis G-2960 Genesis G-6030 Genesis G-6035 Genesis G-6040 Genesis G-7012 http://www.genesismedialabs.com Grafdale Hauffman Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio Kirsch K3 Kirsch K10 Kirsch Prodigy K803 http://www.kirschloudspeakers.com Linear Phase studio monitors http://matrixaudioconcepts.com Matrix Audio Concepts Matrix MX-1300 MX-404 MX-550 MX-6160 MX-2060 MX-605S Millenium Millenium MTS-2006p Millenium MTS-2208 Millenium MTS-2328 Millenium MTS-2300 Millenium MTS-2605 Millenium MTS-3100 http://www.mtsspeakers.com Omni Audio PSD (2.8) PTS PT-5500S PTS (Precision Transducer Systems) http://www.ptswoofers.com Palermo VA6.1 Palermo VA 6.1 Paradyme Pro Audio Pro Dynamics Pro Platinium Series Pro Dynamics PD-9600 Proline Acoustic Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers Samurai 518 Skyline AD-900SL Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series" Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Innovations TI-6000T Theater Innovations TI~6000T Theater Innovations TI~5100 Theater Innovations Ti-5100 Theater Innovations TI-4000 Theater Innovations TI~4000 Theater Innovations TI~440MR Theater Innovations TI-440MR http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR5160 Theater Research TR6000 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research 8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs White Van Speakers Robert M Sullivan dob June 03, 1968 Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audiofile THX 6.1 Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV5.1 THX DanWave DW-6 DanWave DW-606 DanWave DW-607 DanWave DW-608 DW608 Dan Wave DW-1000 http://www.divincisound.com Divinci Sound DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass Divinci Sound D6 D-6 Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010 Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030 Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505 Divinci Sound DA6.1DA-6.1 Divinci D-52 Divinci DV-1450 Denmark Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio DHT 5.1 Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio 2002 Digital Audio 2012 7.1 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Digital Research DR-1000 Digital Research DR-2810 Digital Research DR-1610 Digital Research DR-1611 Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Epic Sound Innovative Sound & Bass Epic-7.1 Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis G-1630 Genesis G-2815 Genesis G-2840 Genesis G-2850 Genesis G-2870 Genesis G-2875 Genesis G-2880 Genesis G-2885 Genesis G-2950 Genesis G-2960 Genesis G-6030 Genesis G-6035 Genesis G-6040 Genesis G-7012 http://www.genesismedialabs.com Grafdale Hauffman Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio Kirsch K3 Kirsch K10 Kirsch Prodigy K803 http://www.kirschloudspeakers.com Linear Phase studio monitors http://matrixaudioconcepts.com Matrix Audio Concepts Matrix MX-1300 MX-404 MX-550 MX-6160 MX-2060 MX-605S Millenium Millenium MTS-2006p Millenium MTS-2208 Millenium MTS-2328 Millenium MTS-2300 Millenium MTS-2605 Millenium MTS-3100 http://www.mtsspeakers.com Omni Audio PSD (2.8) PTS PT-5500S PTS (Precision Transducer Systems) http://www.ptswoofers.com Palermo VA6.1 Palermo VA 6.1 Paradyme Pro Audio Pro Dynamics Pro Platinium Series Pro Dynamics PD-9600 Proline Acoustic Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers Samurai 518 Skyline AD-900SL Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series" Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Innovations TI-6000T Theater Innovations TI~6000T Theater Innovations TI~5100 Theater Innovations Ti-5100 Theater Innovations TI-4000 Theater Innovations TI~4000 Theater Innovations TI~440MR Theater Innovations TI-440MR http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR5160 Theater Research TR6000 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research 8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs White Van Speakers Bought speakers out of the back of a van or suv ? We found the guy that's been ripping people off. Call him now and get your money back ! Robert M Sullivan dob June 03, 1968 Phone I have been posting scam warnings against these morons for months-who knows if anybody pays attention. BTW, you forgot Fluance. Also, you should remind people that several of the brands are so named to deliberately confuse them with legit manufacturers - Kirsh/Klipsch, Dynalab/Dynaudio, Acoustic Response/Acoustic Research, Genesis Media/Genesis Technologies, Paradyme/Paradigm, Dahlton/Dahlquist, Grafdale/Wharfedale, and so on. I used to have an audio shop dealing in quality used gear-these clowns actually pulled up to my store on several occasions and tried to wholesale quantities for resale in my shop. As I was used to selling Mirage, Fried, Snell, Vandersteen, KEF, Mission, Energy, PSB, Maggies, Quad, as well as vintage JBLs and Altecs
Gotya	Riviera Beach, Florida
2/22/2008 Product or Service Involved: Surround Sound System Two young, attractive men approached me in a van as I was in my car leaving work. I am a white mid 30's woman. I thought they were just going to ask for directions. They gave me the whole story about how they had an overstock delivery of surround sound systems. They even had a purchase order and a color brochure to collaborate their story. They offered me the system at $600 and eventually came down to $300. According to them, it retails for $3,200. I told them I only had $20. They offered to follow me to an ATM machine, but I declined. This whole ordeal went on for at least 10 minutes. They were very GOOD at what they did. The guy even had an English accent, which made me trust him more for some reason. In the end, it seemed to be good to be true and they didn't get me. It wasn't until I researched the internet that I discovered what a huge scam this is. BEWARE! These people are very convincing. He even said I could trust him and showed me his driver's license. I am happy they didn't scam me, but I am so upset that I even gave them the time of day. Although, at least I wasted some of their time from scamming someone else.
John E	St. Petersburg, Florida
2/18/2008 Product or Service Involved: Genesis G6030 Home Theater System Wish I had known about this website before today. I was pulled over on the street by two guys in a white Dodge pickup truck at 1:00 this afternoon at 34th Street N. & 22nd Ave. N in St. Petersburg. The pitch man had a Florida drivers license under the name of Everette Moore and he was covered with tattoos. The second guy was skinny with dark hair. Moore was very high-pressure - said he was supposed to pick up a sound system for his boss and actually received two at the loading dock- had to get rid of the other one in a hurry and wanted to make some cash. He pulled out the box, a Genesis G6030 sound system, sealed and showing MSRP of $2899. He said he would take $500 for the system. I wrote him a check for $500 and he drove with me to the nearest Amscot check-cashing location on 34th street where he cashed my check. When I got home, we looked up the system on the internet. On the www.genesismedialabs.com website, the system was shown with MSRP of $2899. We went to other websites and found, unfortunately, that this has happened to numerous other people, under the same circumstances and that the system is basically worthless. Hopefully this will help someone else from making the same mistake!
John Quick	Tampa, Florida
2/16/2008 Product or Service Involved: Epic Digital 7.1 Surround A guy named Chris Mileca and an unknown accomplice in a black Lincoln Navigator Illinois License Plate #806-9518 Waved me down yesterday afternoon around 2PM. Did the whole scam speal, with magizines, warranty information, etc. Sold the system to me for 250 bucks, claiming it was worth 1999.99 new. His face is on Bank of America (W. Hillsborough Tampa Florida) security cameras as well as his signature on the receipt for withdrawal.
B Dubbs	ft lauderdale, Florida
2/11/2008 Product or Service Involved: is it a scam or not? im still wonderin what the fuck it is. these guys are so good i got suckered into doing it thinking it was a delivery job. i did this shit for 2 weeks and made some pretty good money but also came to realize karma is a bitch. also i got fucked wit by the cops on several occasions. the cops cant do shit but give u a ticket for solitation without a permit. so is it really a scam? these things are so hott the cops cant touch them. so u tell me is it a scam?
Roger	None, Florida
2/9/2008 Product or Service Involved: MTS 4200 How can you tell if the speakers are quality or not? I received as a gift, opened the box and all seems to be intact and looks like picture, what are the telltale signs?? Thanks
Tomas	Orlando, Florida
2/6/2008 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Home Theater System I have yet to try these speakers but I will tell you that they did an incredible job with their sales pitch. I thought I had a great deal with they showed me the product, a magazine describing it (now that i think of it he quickly ran through it), and papers that looked like invoices but they were passive. He started out at high prices and got him down to 250. He told me his stories and was very witty. Only to find this product is flagged numerous times online and I am not sure I want to try this product cause of safety problems. Today I met a CON ARTIST at the finest. They brought down every curious thing I had in mind when dealing with a person without previous notice (fake papers, likeable, magazine, great price). AND I will mention he first got my attention by asking If I speak English then said I have an extra system (mightve said free).
Patricia Rodriguez	FORT LAUDERDALE , Florida
1/21/2008 Product or Service Involved: Millennium Theater System, MTS Cinema series PS-4200 Product or Service Involved: MTS 4200 & 5200 Got scammed today at the Fort Lauderdale, FL. Going to deposit my hard earned work money plus some cash. Van pulls up. Dark Red van, 2 males 20s-30s, 4 recievers and 4 speaker systems in van. Blabbered on about having too much stock and couldn't take it back to work. Had a legit looking MAGAZINE with product in it. 15 min of haggling. Came down in price showed me the magazine. Had me fooled. Offered to go into bank with me. SCAMMED for $600.
Sully	Altamonte Springs, Florida
1/19/2008 Product or Service Involved: White Van Speakers Paco you are SCUM , Karma
James Guertin	Jupiter, Florida
1/17/2008 Product or Service Involved: MTS Cinema Series PS-4200 Speaker rip off 1/16/2008 in Home Depot parking lot.
James Fort	Miami, Florida
1/14/2008 Product or Service Involved: Epic-7.1 SAME SENARIO I ENDED UP PAYING 160 FOR THE SPEAKERS DAMN
TPS	Orlando, Florida
1/8/2008 Product or Service Involved: Elite Audio EA-506 msrp$3999 not worth $50 Found this info on these scumbag speaker scammers . Check out this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZNn_ovqFSoY Do a good deed please repost this info and save someone from getting scammed ! The speakers sold by the speakermen are of exceptionally poor quality, typically obtained for less than $50 from a local distributor. The speakers themselves have been reported as potentially damaging to any amplifier they are connected to. The risk of damage stems from an impedence curve that in some cases may drop below 2 ohms, which may overheat, short out, or permanently damage an amplifier not designed to handle such loads. Do a search for " white van speakers " you'll see how this scam goes Guy in suv or van drives up to you has these $3000 speakers , extras ?? You can have em for a deal you can't pass up . He will try to get you to give him $50 or more up to $1500.00 for these $40 china speakers. Look out for the guy in the suv with the cock and bull story about the extra home theater system he's got to unload. He will tell you it's worth something crazy like 2000 or 3000 dollars show all kinds of crap like receipts , invoices , magazines , ads sheets, etc. He'll even point you to the company website to prove they are worth the 3 grand. Don't be fooled ! So when he lowers his price to $100.00 you'll think you got the deal of a lifetime. $3000 speakers for $ 100 bucks , no you got a crap set of $40 speakers and paid $100 or more for them. Just do a search for "white van speakers" and you'll see that not only are they worth only 40 bucks shipped from china , they may also be UNSAFE and damage your system. Watch out for the speaker guys in suv's or pickup trucks and vans selling home theater equipment. Many of the sales take place in the parking lots of Best Buy, Home Depot, Circuit City , Banks , Carwashes , Gas Stations , Construction sites , etc heck they will even flag you down while you are driving down the road. Do not fall for the white van speaker scam , they are looking to rip you off ! If you see them , drop a dime , CALL A COP , let's get these scumbags of our streets. Get your phone out , Take a PICTURE , get the PLATE number and CALL the Local POLICE !! Law enforcement WILL issue citations, as rarely do the speakerguys obtain the proper permits and license to sell "out of a vehicle". In Pennsylvania, the act of selling white van speakers is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to a fine of $10,000 . Here's one of many reviews I found ... I've been involved in the audio industry for over 25 years, and have to say that these speakers have the worst components I've ever seen. As someone who has built and repaired speakers, and written published audio reviews well before the Internet came around, I am appalled at the chutzpah shown by manufacturers and sellers of this junk. The 'reviews' and 'guides' that speak positively of these things have undoubtedly been posted by those who stand to profit from the sale of these inferior items. Take the Kirsch, Theatre Research, Genesis Media Labs (Genesis PHYSICS was a good brand in the 1980's) and DiVinci speakers, with their glossy ads and websites full of meaningless techno-babble and claims of outrageous 'retail' prices - not that any reputable retailer would carry these dogs. There are good reasons why they are mostly sold out of the back of white vans, and here, where comparison to good equipment is impossible. Most recently peddlers of the Genesis Media Lab and DiVinci's have trumpeted an ad taken out by the company, and purchase of a booth at an electronics show as evidence that this is an established brand-when you have the kind of profit margins based upon $ 50 worth of components in a "$ 3600" package, I suppose you can afford a booth or an ad. Imagine if a peddler of fake Rolexes', or 'Rolex quality' watches posted a website claiming that their junk that cost maybe $ 50 to manufacture is worth thousands - that is basically the case we have here. I've had the opportunity to take apart a number of these speakers, and all I can say is if you read Wikipedia and other search results you obtain from Googling the term "White Van Speakers' or 'White Van Scam' the conclusion that the components are of 'exceptionally poor quality' is well founded. For example, as I write this, there are at least 3 pairs of the "K803 Prodigy" speakers being posted on E Bay for $ 1500 or more, yet superior drivers (the speaker drivers -woofers, tweeters, midranges and the like) can be had for $ 15 or less per driver. The internal electronics such as the crossovers, are by far, the absolute worst I've ever seen in nearly 3 decades as a hobbyist. The DiVinci hucksters have the nerve to advertise their 'high energy crossover', which is a $2 piece of junk - a good crossover is complex, not inexpensive, and is critical to sound quality. Even the glossy cabinets are made of cheap, lightweight wood, whose resonances distort the already awful sound, and lack the internal bracing you will find on quality speakers. The drivers on the Kirsch and DiVinci "$ 3000 pair" (K803- DiVinci 1740-Dahlton- same speaker) are pretty much the same as on another set of these towers sold under an earlier "White Van Scam" name that a friend bought for $ 59 in a local pawn shop- one set of DiVinci's' is listed for $ 2500 buy it now - that is on line piracy. Just for fun, we compared these Kirsch 803 beasts' to a pair of Infinty SM-255's bought off of E Bay for $ 300, using both analogue and digital sources, receivers and high end separate electronics. A sound level meter was used to ensure that the listening occured at the same volume level. One of the girlfriends said it best : the Kirsch sounded like a clock radio compared to the Infinity's and one thought that a clock radio might sound better. Technical measurements confirmed what our ears told us - a ragged response curve that is the worst I've ever seen, bar none. Maybe it was unfair - the Infinity's weigh 77 pounds versus 28 for the Klipsch... er Kirsch - but then the Kirsch is a $ 3000 speaker, the Infinities were $ 1000 new ... the weight alone should tell you just what junk the White Van Speakers are. We also compared the Kirsch with a vintage set of Klipsch KG-3.5's which you can get for around $ 200-250 - needless to say they blew the K-803 Prodigy away. We've also performed listening tests comparing the "$ 2495"- oh please - Kirsch K3 home theatre system to a vintage set of Infinity Qb speakers dating back to the 1980's, which you can buy for $ 150 or so; a Samsung Home Theatre in a box and to Logitech Z-5300 and Klipsch Pro Media 5.1 computer speakers, hooked to a 5.1 receiver via the headphone jack ( a decent option for a small room). Experienced listeners suggested the best use of the Kirsch's was as a boat anchor or firewood, kids unanimously preferred the other sets and as one eloquently put it - ' the fancy ones stink like poo.' You would be much better off with a used set from Energy, Polk, or another quality speaker company. I also had the (dis) pleasure of listening to a set of the "$ 3600" DiVinci's often posted here - even the best electronics cannot make a silk purse out of these sow's ears. We compared the DiVinci 607 model to a Polk RM-6800 5.1 home theater set up that can be had for $ 400 or less- $3200 less than theDiVinci's so called retail value. It was no contest-- as my 12 year old put it 'where did all the instruments go' - there was no category- NONE- imaging, detail, tightness of bass- you name it- where the DiVinci's were remotely competitive. Not only are the speakers unspeakably bad, the 'receivers' included with the DiVinci, Theatre Research, Digital Research and other "White Van Brands' lack even basic AV functions such as Dolby and DTS processing, and HDMI and component video outputs -as well as measuring and sounding horribly - try watching "Master and Commander" with one of these pieces of 'bleep'- a used Denon, Yamaha or Onkyo at any price is light years superior. With profit margins that would make oil companies jealous, I can see where they could now buy ads in magazines - one E Bay posting claims they are an 'established high end speaker' - you would have to be high to consider these anything but the low level junk they are. Scam is not a strong enough term, and these have earned their place on rip-off report.com White Van Speaker List Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audiofile THX 6.1 Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV 5.1 THX DanWave DW-6 DanWave DW-606 DanWave DW-607 DanWave DW-608 Dan Wave DW-1000 http://www.divincisound.com Divinci Sound DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass Divinci Sound D6 D-6 Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010 Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030 Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505 Divinci Sound DA6.1 DA-6.1 Divinci D-52 Divinci DV-606 Divinci DV-607 Divinci DV-608 Divinci DV-1420 Divinci DV-1450 Divinci DV-1412 Divinci DV-1450 Divinci DV- 607 Divinci DV-2150 Divinci DV-2100 Denmark Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio DHT 5.1 Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio 2002 Digital Audio 2012 7.1 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Digital Research DR-1000 Digital Research DR-2810 Digital Research DR-1610 Digital Research DR-1611 Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G-6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis G-1630 Genesis G-2810 Genesis G-2815 Genesis R-2810 Genesis G-2840 Genesis G-2850 Genesis G-2870 Genesis G-2875 Genesis G-2880 Genesis G-2885 Genesis G-2950 Genesis G-2960 Genesis G-6030 Genesis G-6035 Genesis G-6040 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TI-1250 TI~1255 TI-1255 TI~1300 TI-1300 TI~1650 TI-1650 TI~1655 TI-1655 TI~6000SD TI-6000SD TI~6100 TI-6100 TI~1750 TI-6200 http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR-5160 Theater Research TR-6000 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research TR-8010 Theater Research TR-8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 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Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Epic Sound Innovative Sound & Bass Epic-7.1 Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis G-1630 Genesis G-2815 Genesis G-2840 Genesis G-2850 Genesis G-2870 Genesis G-2875 Genesis G-2880 Genesis G-2885 Genesis G-2950 Genesis G-2960 Genesis G-6030 Genesis G-6035 Genesis G-6040 Genesis G-7012 http://www.genesismedialabs.com Grafdale Hauffman Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio Kirsch K3 Kirsch K10 Kirsch Prodigy K803 http://www.kirschloudspeakers.com Linear Phase studio monitors http://matrixaudioconcepts.com Matrix Audio Concepts Matrix MX-1300 MX-404 MX-550 MX-6160 MX-2060 MX-605S Millenium Millenium MTS-2006p Millenium MTS-2208 Millenium MTS-2328 Millenium MTS-2300 Millenium MTS-2605 Millenium MTS-3100 http://www.mtsspeakers.com Omni Audio PSD (2.8) PTS PT-5500S PTS (Precision Transducer Systems) http://www.ptswoofers.com Palermo VA6.1 Palermo VA 6.1 Paradyme Pro Audio Pro Dynamics Pro Platinium Series Pro Dynamics PD-9600 Proline Acoustic Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers Samurai 518 Skyline AD-900SL Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series" Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Innovations TI-6000T Theater Innovations TI~6000T Theater Innovations TI~5100 Theater Innovations Ti-5100 Theater Innovations TI-4000 Theater Innovations TI~4000 Theater Innovations TI~440MR Theater Innovations TI-440MR http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR5160 Theater Research TR6000 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research 8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs White Van Speakers Robert M Sullivan dob June 03, 1968 Acoustic Response Series 707 Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312 Acoustic Lab Technology Acoustic Monitor Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor Acoustic Response Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055 Audiofile 583LR Audiofile 835LR Audiofile THX 6.1 Audio Tech Dahlton KV 1500 Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers Dahlton AV5.1 THX DanWave DW-6 DanWave DW-606 DanWave DW-607 DanWave DW-608 DW608 Dan Wave DW-1000 http://www.divincisound.com Divinci Sound DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass Divinci Sound D6 D-6 Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010 Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030 Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505 Divinci Sound DA6.1DA-6.1 Divinci D-52 Divinci DV-1450 Denmark Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR Digital Audio DHT 5.1 Digital Audio SL-3810 Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS Digital Audio 2000 Digital Audio 2002 Digital Audio 2012 7.1 Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810 Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III Digital Dogg Audio Digital Pro Audio Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8 Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III Digital Research DR-1000 Digital Research DR-2810 Digital Research DR-1610 Digital Research DR-1611 Dogg Digital Dynalab Epiphany Audio speakers Epic Sound Innovative Sound & Bass Epic-7.1 Elite Audio Elite Audio EA-505 Elite Audio EA-608 Elite Audio EA-1620 Elite Audio EA-7012 Epic Sound 7.1 Fleetwood Audio Genesis Genesis Media Labs Genesis G6.1 Digital Series Genesis G-505 Genesis G-506 Genesis G-507 Genesis G-608 Genesis G-609 Genesis G-610 Genesis G-1420 Genesis G-1620 Genesis 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Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series) Theater Innovations (Ti 5100) http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Innovations TI-6000T Theater Innovations TI~6000T Theater Innovations TI~5100 Theater Innovations Ti-5100 Theater Innovations TI-4000 Theater Innovations TI~4000 Theater Innovations TI~440MR Theater Innovations TI-440MR http://www.theater-innovations.com Theater Logic http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/ Theater Logic L5ti Theater Logic L6 Theater Logic L8TI 5.1 Theater Logic T 2400 Theater Logic T 2450 http://www.trtheaterresearch.com Theater Research TR-501 Theater Research TR-900 Theater Research TR-1120 Theater Research TR-1400 Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers Theater Research TR-2380 Theater Research TR-2810 Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater Theater Research TR5160 Theater Research TR6000 Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema Theater Research 8810 Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home Ultra Digital Labs White Van Speakers Bought speakers out of the back of a van or suv ? We found the guy that's been ripping people off. Call him now and get your money back ! Robert M Sullivan dob June 03 , 1968 Phone anyone who writes that these things sound fine is either making money off of them, a scam victim seeking to pawn off his folly on someone else, or they need to have a root canal performed on their ears. If you see people trying to sell this stuff , take some pictures of them , get a plate # , Call your local Police and local news (scambusters). White Van Speakers - Cost less $40.00 shipped to us from china Yeah the scumbags remove the "made in china " labels from the boxes If you paid more you bought them out of a White Speaker Van or a New SuV Roadside guy in Suv Banks GasStations ParkingLots onthe Road Guy in Van/Suv with $3000 Extras ?? If you see a speaker scammer , drop a dime , CALL A COP , let's get these scumbags of our streets. Get your phone out , Take a PICTURE , get the PLATE number and CALL the Local POLICE !! Check out this clip ! http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZNn_ovqFSoY Do a good deed repost this and save someone from getting scammed!
The Best There Is	Springs, Florida
1/2/2008 Product or Service Involved: All I have been doing this for 15yrs. or so.I recognize the stories that some of you told about me and my vehicle..Im hysterical!!! Remember we feed on your greed. Its you homos that pay under 400 that do all the crying. Get over it! I have sold in almost every major city in the US. So stop crying and take it as a lesson. It builds character! Ive sold an average of 15+ sets a week all last year, with an average sale of $315. If you know what i pay for them, then do the math! Some doctors dont make what i do! LOL. For those who know me...Paco!!!!
John	Tampa, Florida
12/13/2007 Product or Service Involved: Da Vinci Speakers I am only in high school and I was driving out of a dunkin donuts when a guy in a white van pulled next to me. He said that hes got a great deal on speakers worth 3 grand. the box said the speakers were 3 grand and he had some professional looking brochures and stuff. My brother, a year younger, wanted to see them, but i wasn't so enthusiastic. So i made sure we went to a busy parking lot (the dunkin donuts one) and he showed us all the boxes and everything. The story is exactly how it is described on this site. He said that he is a driver and wanted to sell the speakers before his boss takes them. He was kind of a sketchy looking guy too. I didn't buy them because I wondered why he was asking high school students for 300 dollars. it seemed fishy. he also mentioned that he almost sold it to a lady in the home depot right behind the dunkin donuts for 600 but she could only give a check and he couldnt take it. he also said that the lady claimed her husband uses these speakers in his bars and that it was a really good deal. Overall, Im glad i didnt have the cash in the first place or that he didnt accept it for 50 bucs because now i found out it was a rip off, just as i thought it could be.
???????	orlando, Florida
11/28/2007 Product or Service Involved: speakers These are the idiots that probably sold to you 407 937 9784 Paul Poppell 407 358 4779 Pat Kahoun 321 279 7995 Michael 407 844 1267 Isaac if that helps.......
Will	Fort Lauderdale, Florida
11/19/2007 Product or Service Involved: Davinci I have heard of this scam before, and being in the Fort Lauderdale area, I find myself saying quite offten "no thanks, bud". Today was different. I own a Restaurant in the area, it was my Kitchen Managers birthday the other day, and we were suppose to meet up that night for a few drinks. Earlier in the day, I had given him a card with $150 dollars in it, in appreciation of his work for me. Today (monday) I came in and asked him what he done that night, seeing as how I had fell asleep until about 2 am and didnt call him. He said he had fallen asleep as well so he didnt go out. I said to him in passing "well atleast you saved some money staying home", he said in return "until this morning". He then went on to explain that earlier he was across the street, at the shopping center, and some guy pulled up in a white van and was on his way to install a HIGH END sound system in a yacht and had an extra one. He showed him a invoice, a catalog, and the box said MSRP 1,999. He got a steal of a deal for $250. I didnt tell him about the articles I have read about this.
Leonidas	Miami, Florida
11/14/2007 Product or Service Involved: Epic-7.1 Digital Series 3 speakers and one subwoofer
John Boyard	Orlando, Florida
10/4/2007 Product or Service Involved: Audio this guy was in a jeep that was silver. he pulled up as i was parking and started talking to my friend who was getting out. he said he had an extra set he wanted to sell beacuse he didnt want to bring it back to his boss or something. he pulls out a catalog and points out the speakers and hes insistent on telling us the price is over 3000$. by that point i realized it was the scam i read about before. after a couple minutes we just walked away.
Tony	Kissimmee, Florida
10/3/2007 Product or Service Involved: Genesis G-506 After leaving the bank of america on 192 i Kissimme, fl these two suspicious characters in a white SUV gave me the same story of the extra inventory and how they wanted to sell the extra speaker before they met up with their boss. I wasnt looking to buy anything but they sounded so convincing, that i got suckered into it like everyone else. Luckily i only had 150 that i couls spare after several negotiations amongs the two guys and seeing that i was losing interest they took the 150, with a promise to get 50 more when i called them. However i lost their number and after my gut instinct of checking their product online i came upon u guys with the exact scenario. I wonder if there is something that can be done of all these scams going on and if i can get my money back. If Anyone has any information, please contact me at my email stud_man_113@hotmail.com and reply for tony. Thank You
tacklebox	panama city beach, Florida
9/18/2007 Product or Service Involved: punk ass faggot in ORLANDO this here is the only response ill give to the fag in orlando who has never seen a double grand in his life....dont worry junior its not a myth you can do it if you bring your mommy along and beg... i bet you work for a company and have to pay out the ass for sets to a guy who is fuckin your wife or girlfriend while your out there making him money...your talking to a independant who is laughing at you down in orlando starving for a sale with 30 other vans in your area..you ever want to make something of this im in panama city florida...if you want some come get you some..so with all of this said you can type back if you want but you will not see anything on here anymore about you so be a man and come up here and sell..until then sellout..
Your moms B!!!!!!!!	orlando, Florida
9/14/2007 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digitals, Genesis, Davini, DLS, Acoustics, Audiophile, Elite Tacklebox why would you be bragging about a double 450 to a pawnshop if you didnt suck so bad you would just sell double grands to people on the streets......by the way about 5 years ago with a set of dogg digital 1000's you probably dont even know what they are but a pawnshop bought em for 650 in leesburg so I hope it doesnt hurt your feelings that you suck and can only afford 55 dollar sets of 6.1's
SHOOT FIRST	F'em UP, Florida
9/14/2007 Product or Service Involved: Wreck a Speaker Scammers Day These scumbags speakerfleas need a old fashion ass kicking. Remember to screw over your speaker guy , have him follow you around town getting money. then don't buy. Or give a check and stop payment on it. Let him chase you around or take you to court. Play with your speaker guy, and always take a picture get a plate and call a cop. Slash tires or you could shoot first !!!
Speakz4U	None, Florida
9/12/2007 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Why do all of you complain...I've been in the business now for a good bit, and I must say alot of people love the stuff they get. Do you really think a Bose, Pioneer, Yamaha, etc. really cost all of the major retailers hundreds upon hundreds of dollars. If so then you need to learn about how wholesale is ran. Furthermore, we aren't the bad guys, sure we might be a bit deceptive, but hey, its sales.....besides you are the one buying speakers on the basis of them being stolen, or "extra". So who is the real crook here? Have I jacked some people, sure. But all in all thats life and it is a dog eat dog world out here, ask anybody in business. See you out there.......
TaCkLeBoX	florida georgia mississippi alabama , Florida
9/12/2007 Product or Service Involved: speaker guy hello there to all my victoms and fellow speaker guys and girls for that matter...has anyone ever gotten a pawn shop to buy??? well i did for a DOUBLE $450.00 and yes they were 6.1's and yes the pawn shop "OWNER" went to GOOGLE and typed DIVINCI...my partner almost stroked out...if anyone out there can top that let me know...and keep in mind this was a pawn shop...we will come to your town soon so be ready work hard sell out and encourage your friends to buy.......ha haha oh yeah and this is the crew of two from the spring break capitol of the world...so show me your tits and wallet.....
jorge	Doral, Florida
9/11/2007 Product or Service Involved: System Digital Sound Epic- 7.1 Digital Series Just as the article described... shady salespeople tried to sell the speakers at whatever price I can afford!
Mike	Orlando, Florida
9/11/2007 Product or Service Involved: Denmark Hi everybody! My name is Mike and I was one of these speakerguys. Everything stated, so far, is true. We scammed many people out of a lot of money for worthless speakers. What many of you don't know is that the company was charging us for these speakers. We paid, on average, $125 per pair for this junk. I got out of this business because I discovered that the distributors were ripping us off. Do I care that I ripped someone else off? Yes and no...Yes, because it's wrong to take advantage of someone but no, because I still had bills to pay and there wasn't much work around Orlando at that time. All in all, be aware of these guys. Don't threaten or assault them because you can go to jail for a lot longer than they will. I believe it's only a ticketable offence to sell speakers out of a vehicle in Orlando. Whereas, Battery, Aggrivated Assault, etc... will get you in more trouble than the speakerguys. Pulling a gun out will get you automatically 10 years in Florida. 20 if you use it. Just say NO! and walk away.
Pedro	Tampa, Florida
8/29/2007 Product or Service Involved: Divinci I CANT BELIEVE I GOT SCAMMED i had just got out of school and was headed to best buy and these two guys stopped me asking if i wanted to buy some speakers. i responded by saying no thanks, but they were really persistant so i went and took a look at them and the seemed pretty nice.so i told him that all i have is 40 buck he said we can go to the bank and take out some money so i went and paid 300 bucks for those speakers. how dumb can i be. the police wont do anything about it except say sorry. this is Crazy. so yea please tell everyone u know im going to post it on myspace.
Kevin	Sanford, Florida
8/16/2007 Product or Service Involved: Divinci Model #: D-6 I was in my truck at the intersection of 17-92 and Airport rd. when two guys in a late model green GMC Yukon drove up next to me and flagged me down claiming they had an expensive home theater system for sale really cheap. I'm am generally a skeptical person, so I told them that I already have one and continued to drive, they speed up next to me and said that they got it for free and have to sell it. So I agreed to to look at it, it never hurts to look right? wrong! They claimed it was extra from a delivery, and that they didn't want to take it back to their boss because he would cash in on it. They had thier sh@# together, they showed me a catalog where the exact system has a MSRP of over $3,000. It looked totally legit! They asked me to make an offer. I made an offer of $300, the one guy acted like that was an insult, and put it back in the suv, so I got in my truck and started to drive off, when the other guy ran up to my truck as I was driving off and said that I could have it but that if I ever saw him in a "titty bar" that I better buy him some beers for him giving me such a wonderful deal, asshole. I agreed and they followed me to my ATM where we made the exchange. I left happy as a lark thinking that I would bank on the system by selling it, boy did I have a rude awakening when I researched the system online, and discovered that you can have them shipped to your house from China for less then $50. If I find these assholes I'm going to hold them at gun point, pistol whip them and take all of their money, pay myself back, and then use their money to pay back as many people as I can that also got scamed. Call me ignorant but I have never heard of such a scam before in my life. I hope that everyone eventually finds out about this, so that these losers get shut down.
Mike	Pembrokepines , Florida
8/11/2007 Product or Service Involved: Millenium Home Thearter Speakers I was on my way into Walmart and I was stopped by tow guys in a white van. Yhey told me that they had been given extra speakers from the warehouse and that they were on thier way to Ft Lauderdale to do a job. They asked me to purchase the extra speakers, they kept me for atleast fifteen minutes, showing be specs and even a HD magazine article showing the speakers were worth $3000.00 I almost bought these speakers for $500.00 brcause of the high sales pressure from these guys. I would normally never buy anything stolen but these guys are very good. be careful
fernando villa	orlando, Florida
8/10/2007 Product or Service Involved: Divinci White guy tattoe in both legs in SUV Green GNC Yucom plate number C60 3UR. He tried to sell me home theather for $400 HE is selling more around Disney ut area. let me know something about it at my email.
Who Cares?	Orlando , Florida
8/9/2007 Product or Service Involved: Speakers People don't fall for this at all. Tell all your friends to visit this website. These guys didn't get an extra set on delivery it's their job to go around and lie to you. They use the same story every day, "My boss gave me an extra set free on delivery and I can't take it back to the warehouse" Don't give them money don't buy the speakers. It's their job they want you to believe you are getting a good deal but you are not the speakers are shitty! They often go to Ft. Lauderdale because that's where they make the most money so all you Ft. Lauderdale people warn your friends, family & neighbors. Make these loser's get a real job!
Anonymous	Coral Springs, Florida
8/8/2007 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci Same story as the last. I'm an idiot, bought crappy speakers from a black SUV. If I ever see those guys again, I'm going to kick the snot out of 'em and get my damn money back. grr.
Tom	Margate, Florida
7/24/2007 Product or Service Involved: DaVinci So, it was the same story as everyone else. Two guys in a new black Jeep SUV in front of the Publix at Sample and 441. They said they had these extra DaVinci speakers. The told me they cost over $2000. The driver was white, a litte stocky but not too big(he didn't get out). The other guy was a skinny philipino. Im glad I didn't fall for it. They didn't take it too well when I turned them down.
Julian	Miami, Florida
7/12/2007 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci I was approached by a couple of guys in a bank parking lot who claimed they had extra stereo they needed to get rid of fast. They were driving a black SUV. They claimed the product was a super high end product and weren't going to return the product to their boss. They wanted 800 for the speakers. I only offered 400 and they eventually settled for it.
DRE	All of Florida, Florida
7/10/2007 Product or Service Involved: Genesis to Dogg Digital Sorry you guys are such IDIOTS. Yall have no idea how much money I made in 6 years. Its ridiculous. 100s of thousands. Now I have a car dealership in New York! Thanks to all the Peters out there!
Roman	Orlando, Florida
9/14/2004 Product or Service Involved: Skyline AD900-SL speakers yeah, I was a "hit" of this crime today. Pretty much the same pitch as with everyone else: "hey man, need a pair of speakers? Pull over, I'll show you ..." Only in my case the van wasn't white, there were no logos, only a couple of very good actors and my naive personality. They were using a brand new Dodge SUV, a rental I may assume, of blue color. They had quite a number of these speakers in the back and yes it did look official. I guess I got lucky (or maybe that I'm just broke and really have no money) I ended up paying $260. The stupid ATM had to have in the multiples of 20, I ended up paying extra 10, damit! I must admit I don't feel too bad about it, I knew that I was taking a gamble and, well, it didn't pay off. I have better things to do then have my day ruined over 200+ dollars.
Bernardo	Miami, FL, Florida
9/14/2004 Product or Service Involved: Skyline something Great one here. Walking to lunch break, got stopped by a latin/white/whatever he is Alex on a fairly new (2003 or so) Explorer. Same old story, I offered 400 dollars for it! The knock offs were really well done, very heavy, but I thought it was kind of cheesy when he pointed out the bottom of the speakers had a piano (he meant lacque) finish to them when I noticed right away they were really only shinny plastic (on the porthole). The rubber on the cones were also dirty, but looked pretty good. Anyway, he thought that was good, drove me to the my parking place, put the car on my speakers, he even offered me to connect them to his car. Anyway, he then was kind to drive me to my bank. At which point I put my card on the ATM, typed in the PIN number, typed in the amount, and to my surprise, it didn't go through! Hah! So after 4 tries, we went to another ATM. It didn't work! Anyway, we decided to go to a Publix and get a $400 gift card (if there was such thing). They didn't accept credit, so it didn't work yet again! We decided to try a money order, but it had to be done on debit, and they didn't do it on credit, so once again I needed a PIN. Awesome. At this point the guy said I should just go to a store and buy something for him at that worth. I told him "hey, if it ain't working, it's because it isn't meant to be" and sure enough it wasn't! I rode on this guy's car for like 35 minutes, he finally go the speakers back saying he was about to get fired bringing back open speaker boxes to his boss. Me and my wallet survived, unscathed! Chalk this up to my guardian angel. Anyway, MAGICALLY the card works today, with the same exact PIN that didn't work yesterday.
Gary Fuccillo	Fort Lauderdale, Florida
9/14/2004 Product or Service Involved: Theatre Research They are currently in South Florida. Cited in Fort Lauderdale today
marcelo lima	miami, Florida
9/13/2004 Product or Service Involved: ad-900sl I driving on Brickel Avenue in Miami, FL when I was approached by this guy on a Gold Ford Explorer. He offered me speakers for free. After that he gave me the same story about extra speakers, and I bought it. When I got home, I was going to do some research on the speakers and I found this page. Then I realized that I was scammed. I am very because I can not find any dealer on this area so I can go and return the speakers. If someone knows the dealer's number or address please email me @ marcelolima@bijunique.net. I end up buying the speakers for 400.
Matt	Boca Raton, Florida
8/12/2004 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research TR-1120 I got taken by the same deal - they had the big load of equipment, official looking sales flier, little invoice of receipt and everything. I kept telling them to go to the university to sell them but they were in a big hurry, hah yeah I bet they were. Anyway, I got them for 200 for the pair plus the seemingly requisite beer money (20 bucks in my case.) 1 Pair. Theater Research P.O.S Speakers - 200 bucks Beer Money - 20 bucks Being ripped off - priceless!! I don't know anything about speakers, I figured I would get a good deal and give them to a friend of mine who really likes music alot as a christmas present or somthing. Truthfully, those guys were so good at the scam I almost feel like they earned the money for working me so good, it was like being taken on a rollercoaster rofl.
Jesse Edmunds	Tallahassee, Florida
8/10/2004 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research I fell directly into the White Van Scam except I was approached by a man nearly in tears about losing his job because he screwed up another order. He was in a blue van and I almost went with my instinct to get away but my idea for a profitable turn over got the better of me.... I got home to find out that a friend of mine had been offered the same deal but luckily turned it down... That's when i got suspicious... I of course found out that I had been a victim of this scam...
lee	Anyplace, Florida
7/19/2004 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research FYI with a little research you can find this Scumbag site at http://www.trtheaterresearch.com/ also they sell products under this web site http://www.ibizcarts.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PLST&Store_Code=thr
johhny blaze	orlando, Florida
6/28/2004 Product or Service Involved: TR-6100 Graphic Equalizer Who says these guys are good? They tried to sell me TR-6100 Graphic Equalizer. He went on to say the cost was $1,999 for the system. Playing along I had said I was very picky about my system and in fact I owned a high end Store that sells good equipment. I said i would love to get a good look at it so I can sell it in my store. The man (in his 20's) opened the box. (word of advice when your told by the person you know alot about high end speakers, don't let me open the box and take them apart, retard) I unscrewed the speaker and saw how shitty it was. I looked at the man who I assure you he was not breakin a sweat from the hot florida sun and said you got to be kidding. He then broke down and told me the scam and how it all works. If you guys pay anymore then $100 for these speaks you got ripped. I own a high end store, believe me you can find as good speakers is not better in K-mart. Please people be a little more wiser than that.
Ken Elliott	Orlando, Florida
6/24/2004 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research TR-2800 They got me also. (2) guys, mid 20's aggressive flagged me down at conviencience store. Mentioned their boss had overstocked their vehicle an SUV, Trailblazer I think, 2 tone blue,with (2) additional speakers. They had a document showing the retail of two speakers at $1900. They initially wanted $ 800 but I paid them $ 245 as it turned out. I did get a phone # bogus I think and a tag # for whatever reason. I looked up the speakers on ebay and found them with various prices, typically around $200 each. I also located Theater Research web site & telephone # I hooked up the speakers and they do work well it seems, new, and in box. I discovered they are both right speakers vrs. a right and a left, as a woofer comes on the side.On the official web site they retail for around $1900 each or $3800 a pair. But they are selling 2 for $1900. The web site is www.trtheaterreaserch.com and the ph. # is 949-355-6008. I sure I was scammed but the speakers do work. I just question are the sales legal and are these speakers stolen ? Thanks, Ken
A. Nonymous	Daytona Beach, Florida
6/9/2004 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital Audio WHITE VAN IN PUBLIX, EXTRA INVENTORY, GOOD DEAL, 400$ LATER. IF I RUN INTO ANOTHER I'M GONNA GET MY MONEY BACK.
ED	Leesburg, Florida
6/3/2004 Product or Service Involved: dahlton speaker same old story. got waved over from home depot parking lot, 2 guys in a blue suv offered a great price on expensive speakers. bought the 1500's for $300. Another gullible soul gets taken!
Brett	Longwood, Florida
5/29/2004 Product or Service Involved: (unable to remember) WARNING: THESE SPEAKER SCAM GUYS CAN GET VIOLENT WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO BUY THEIR SPEAKERS. I was in a FedEx parking lot in broad daylight with people around and this guy was trying to sell me speakers out of the back of his dark maroon SUV. He would not take "no" for an answer and went from pushy to violent really quick, calling me names and cussing at me, saying he would just stand there behind my car so I couldn't pull out. I tried to be nice but he would not leave me alone. When I tried to get in my car and turn it on he ended up grabbing my driver's side door and not letting me close it. He began smacking me in the face and yelling at me, so I backed out of the parking space, causing him to fall onto the ground, which only made him more angry and he pounded on my car with his fists, causing damage to my car. I sped away, and he actually got in his vehicle and pulled up beside me at a traffic light. He and his partner began throwing things out of their vehicle at my car, causing more damage, while I was on the phone with 911. They then drove away in the opposite direction as me. This just goes to show that even in a public place in broad daylight with people around you are NOT safe, and that these guys are not afraid to get physically violent with innocent people just to try to get some money.
Chris	Jacksonville, Florida
5/7/2004 Product or Service Involved: Hi-Fi Speakers This is the second time I've been approached by two individuals in a white van trying to sell me speakers. The first time was about a year ago, also in Jacksonville, both times in a parking lot, and it could have been the same two individuals. I didn't even let them offer me a pitch this time, but the first time they said that they worked for a local sports bar (Sneakers, I think) and that they were picking up an order for their boss that was going to be installed in the bar, and by a lucky error in their favor, they got two extra speakers from the store. It went pretty much the way it's described here, and I almost fell for it. Luckily my wife had reservations and so I didn't fall for it.
20forbeer	everywhere , Florida
4/25/2004 Product or Service Involved: peter fatbuyer It seems like all the bad talk about the speakerguys has died down a lot i guess scamshield is gonna quit haten soon! every year all the equipment we sell gets better and the comments on here go away and people will eventually realize that they arent getting scammed anymore just getting something that didnt expect to get because of a good salesman so you guys just enjoy your speakers and not worry about all the shirt people talk on here its all old news.........all you speakerguys in florida rock!!! SELL OUT! Oh and whoever wrote the stuff about about being some chic thats pretty cool i hope you find fim and your not just some gay guy
James	Tampa, Florida
4/8/2004 Product or Service Involved: Pro Dynamics Model: KPP-901 I was exiting a Walmart parking lot when I was approached by two white (19-25yrs old) men they were driving a green Catillac Escalade (SUV). They scamed me by pitching a line identical to what I have read on this www.scamshield.com web site. "we just got done picking these speakers up for our boss and guess what there was a mistake he ordered 2 pairs but got 4 pairs so we will sell them to you for what ever your willing to pay." They also showed me an add from a DVD/Audio magazine with the suggested price of $1029.00 witch match the price that was on the speaker boxes. They also showed me a invoice shipping paper with the mistake listed on it. I was uncomfortable about the whole situation and walked away. The were very persuasive and approached me again as I was pulling out of the parking lot. "look we got to get these speakers back to my boss before he suspects something is going on." I felt pressured in to buying the speakers because the guy looked so damn desperate so I offered him $200.00 for 2 pairs (4 speakers) and he said he'd take $200 for 1 pair (2 speakers).... when it was all said and done I paid $300 for 2 pairs (4 speakers) with the condition that I buy them some beer or give them some beer money. They followed me to my bank I paid them then they took off. They never took the beer when I offered to buy them some because they said "the boss will smell it on our breath". I asked where they were off to now and they said to the Citrus Park Mall.
SAD and alone	orlando, Florida
3/28/2004 Product or Service Involved: my heart !!!!!!!!!! I AM IN LOVE WITH A SEXY SPEAKER MAN !!!!!!! IF ANY OF YOU COOL GUYS W/THE W/ VAN READ THIS IF YOU COULD HELP ME FIND HIM WE MEET IN ORLANDO I MISS HIM MORE THAN ANYTHING EVER!!!!I KNOW THIS IS THE GUY I WANT TO LIVE THE REST OF MY LIFE WITH*HELP ME FIND HIM PLEASE** PS THE SPEAKERS ARE NOT THAT BAD BE HAPPY YOU GOT ANYTHING PEOPLE` THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE WONDERFUL SPEAKER GUYS YOU ROCK,THANK YOU PEOPLE THAT MADE THIS PLACE HERE POSSIBLE I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO HOPE IN EVER FINDING HIM.
Rick	Tallahassee, Florida
3/27/2004 Product or Service Involved: speaker surround system The speaker scam is REAL. It happened to me JUST like they tell it. These guys in a saw my nice car with the windows down and asked if i wanted to buy these new "leftover" speakers from a screwup order. Being a sucker, I pulled over and looked at em out of curiousity. They showed me a business card and order form for the speakers. The speakers were boxed and labeled as was their white delivery van, everything was very professional.They had other merchandise "to be delivered" that day in the back of the van. He kept asking how much money i had and was suprised to know it wasn't much because of my "big bucks car". For a while i was interested, he started at 1000$ for this supposedly $2499 set of speakers. I told him to pawn it and get more money, or keep it. he refused both of these suggestions. I got him down to 200$ but he wouldn't go lower so they drove off.. he was very aggressive and persistent. This guy sounded too much like a salesman, like he did this everyday. It's a tempting offer for almost anyone, but you gotta remember: if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Michael Kuftic Jr	Daytona Beach, Florida
2/19/2004 Product or Service Involved: AudioFile Speakers Same Story, At a car wash on Beville and Clyde Morris, two guys in an suv, very aggressive, would not leave me alone. Paid $200 for both, In Process of Filing Police Report
greg	Tampa, Florida
2/18/2004 Product or Service Involved: theatre research just as noted in scam report.. white van, flagging me and honking on busy road while im in my Lincoln Navigator.. i'm 35 years old, telling me to pull over, they have great deal. 2 boxes have home theatres. Had badges and everything showing a company tehy work for, pink sales slip telling me they were overstocked and if they sell the item they get the money.. retail on a pamphlet they have and on box says $2,499 retail. Very very enthusiastic telling me they like the truck, saying i surely have the money or could go to an atm to get cash.. and how bout some more beer money.. and better not see the item on Ebay as im getting such a deal.. whole nine yards. I gave em $300 for the item. i got a cell phone # for one of them though.. and it works cause i called it while they were loading the box.. his name is matt.. 847-800-3339 this is the 1st i heard of this in tampa, they said they were from orlando.. thanks
Glenn Robinson	Daytona Beach, Florida
2/10/2004 Product or Service Involved: Didn't go that far Same company listed in story. I've contacted the police and the papers.
Carlos Rodriguez	miami, Florida
2/5/2004 Product or Service Involved: audio file speakers Wile I was pumping gas on us1 & 27 ave in Miami a black Tahoe Came up and asked me if i wanted to buy some speakers I said how much they gave ne the same story they gave everyone els some kid gave them 4 extra speakers and they had to get rid of them before there boss found out they had them they took me for 200. Does anyone know if these speakers are any good at all?
Dark Dragon	Orlando, Florida
2/3/2004 Product or Service Involved: SUBTRAKTUM is a loser!! Hey Loser, I see that you and your boys have been busy in the past months. Your post of teasing and taunting of the good people who try to spead the word to others. You and your boys can only screw people over so much. We are growing in numbers and we have the means like the internet to spread the word about your shitty operation there in Florida. Besides, you are shitty leeches who suck on people's hard earned money with bogus products, in order to feed your greedy little pockets. So, you make about $15K a year, BIG FUNKING DEAL, anyone can make more than that shitty pay by working at a local Burger King or any minium-wage job out there. So, by the end of next week, fliers of this scam will be put up on post boards in most of the colleges in Orlando area. If you want a fight, SUBTRAKTUM, then BRING IT ON, YOU ARSHOLE.
Jason Wahrenberger	Orlando, Florida
1/29/2004 Product or Service Involved: Audioline AH2003 Yesterday at about 2:30 in the afternoon, I was driving on SR-50/Colonial eastbound when a guy and his friend in a white/gray truck waved aggressively for me to roll down my passanger side window. So, I did, in order to see what this is about. He ask me in a loud voice "Do you want some good speakers?" and I answered back "I guess so". Then, he said, "Well, let's go over to this shopping center. So, I can show you want I got because I need to get rid of some of them." So, I followed his truck to the up-coming shopping center in Colonial just a few blocks away from Semron blvd. We parked and got out of our cars. Then, he started on his wild story, in which he and his friend work for some audio company that they get audio equipment for a tech college called Full Sail Real World Education. But he and his friend ran into a problem that a shipping company, in which they ordered these speakers from had given them four too many. And their boss might get pissed about this and to their fears, might take it out on them. So, to make my story short, he show me the speakers and they seemed to be of high quality. He set the price at $800 for two speakers and on each box was a price of $1099 for each of them. I thought good deal but I do not have $800 on or my account. I told him that I can not buy them and slowly start walking to my car, but he was going to keep on talking. So, I stopped to listen some more. He said,"Do you think they are worth buying and please be honest with me." So, I said, "Yes" and he said, "How much can pay for them?" I go, "Well, I only have $100 in my pocket." And then he goes on with, "Well, if we went to a ATM, how much would you give after taking out some cash?" Now, I was nervous and did not know on what to do because I need my money to last for a few more months for the reason that I am unemployed with some bills. So, I was honest on saying that I had $400 of spending cash on top of my $100 in my pocket. So, next thing I knew that we were at a ATM machine and I taking money out of my account. I paid him the $500 and he try get more money out of me like he said, "$20 for Beer Money, so we can it is even for the reduced price for the speakers." I try to pay, but the ATM would not let me take any more out. He goes on with, "Oh, OK. Well, when you see me around Full Sail order me and friend a round and by the way, my name is Justice." I answered back with name and we shook hands. And then, he and friend left after leaving me with these two speakers. I felt guilty and foolish in the way that this "Justice" treated me. But I went home and try out these speaker. I connected them to the TV and they worked pretty good. But the speakers have a low range over the old one that I had. So, now I want my money back but do not know how.
Brian	Daytona Beach, Florida
1/22/2004 Product or Service Involved: Audioline AH2003 Speakers Exactly what the report said. They were in an fortunate situation and needed my help. Paid $300 for two seemengly nice speakers. The quality of them isn't too bad, however, it was 300 i could have used towards school. I am a college student... always looking for the best way to save $ on some music and entertainment. They probably picked me because I was carrying some golf clubs to the car lot from my dorm. Out of suspicion, I did get the license plate of their late model Ford Explorer. "I92HAI" from Palm Beach County, FL. They said they were from Orlando...and I know Orlando is quite a market of people who carry cash, but were they really? Who knows? -Thanks.
javier delgado	Miami, Florida
1/17/2004 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 58LR Two guys in a Nissan SUV came acting real cool and told me they had these speakers. Normally I don't buy ripped off stuff because I could very well be the next person to be ripped off (in fact I've had stereo stuff stolen before). But these guys told me that it was a mistake by the shipping department from a pickup, so I figured if its from a rich company selling overpriced speakers i might as well be the one to get them being a sound enthusiast. I asked to see the actual speakers and they looked really nice, good box, terminals, cone materials, etc. After much bargainin I ended up taking thhe speakers.
peter o	ft. lauderdale, Florida
1/14/2004 Product or Service Involved: protecsound 5000s home theatre system i was in hess gas station on us1 in ft lauderdale when 2 guys one with long hair the other wearing a cap in a white ford explorer with a skull on the front licence plate, claimed they just made a pickup from the port. i tell you what if i ever see those dirt bags again there will be serious consequences.
Louis Danube	Atlanta, Florida
1/7/2004 Product or Service Involved: Acustic Image I can't believe I gave these guys beer money. But actually the speakers are better than my JBLs. I tried to bring the JBLs back to Circuit City which supposedly has this great return policy....well nope, they told me to take a walk, so I gave them to my nephew. I would like to find these guys again so I can get my nephew some real speakers.
Local Winter Park Student	Winter Park, Florida
12/11/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile Lesson learned. When the deal is too good and you're totally cluelesss on brands...Just say piss off!! Was hit up by two white males while driving through a local school parking lot. They drove a white SUV and sold a pair of Audiofile speakers to me. From all the information I've gathered so far..I was burned good. I just wish I had a clue. Damage done...but revenge would be sweet. Hope these boys get what they deserve. PS. Justice (One of the Bastards)...Screw the beers!! The next time I see you...I'll show you where you can stick these bloody speakers!!
Broke and broken hearted	Sarasota, Florida
12/9/2003 Product or Service Involved: theatre research I just got done cashing a check & a guy and a girl (rick & stephanie their names were) pulled up to me in a white truck asking if i wanted speakers for my house, like an idiot i pulled over and the girl got out & told me the warehouse messed up there order & they got them free. I now know that's a bunch of crap, anyways she said the same old story and then her boyfriend got out and collaberated the same thing w/colorful pictures and a good storyline. I just got divorced from my wife and moved to florida so i never heard the deal before and thought i was the luckiest guy in the world, to get this deal & talk to this hot chick. Come to find out her and her boyfriend probably do this all day everyday!!Bottomline, i walked away w/ a shitty surround sound and a set of towers, he walked away w/ the money & the hot girl!I guess sex does sell these days!! The truck was an older dodge w/ an indian head license plate.
Adam Douglas	Orlando, Florida
12/8/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audio File 583LR speakers Two young white males ripped me of for some audiofile 583LR speakers. I was on my way home from class when this guys pulled up along side of me adn started yelling at me to pull over. When i did they said that they were delivering speakers to my university UCF and that they were given extra speakers that they're boss didn't know about. They showed me an invoice and a booklet that showed they were worth $1,500 dollars a piece. I know about speakers and they were pretty good knockoffs and i was fooled. but when i told them i didn't have any money they became real pushy. They asked me to get a cash advance on my credit card. The guy even got in the car with me and went into my bank, I figured if the guy was willing to do that then there was no way he was a crook. But he did and so i paid $500 for a pair of speakers that aren't worth the anything. Now i am poor and pissed off. Do i call the police i feel like a fool.
Javier Suarez	Miami, Florida
12/6/2003 Product or Service Involved: Pair Theater Research 2500 I was approached by 2 men in a green explorer while I was driving. One man yelled at me and said he had some speakers that were over stocked. They said they needed to store the overstocked speakers at a local motel so their boss wouldn't find out. One man was blonde blue eyed about 6'4 a little overweight and acted kind of goofy. Chris has very short hair He was between the age of 18 and 25 He can get really spastic and nervous. He described himself as "Chris". The other scammer described himself as "Ramsey" . Ramsey looked Puerto Rican to me. He had a go T, looked puerto rican, and offered me some coffee. They both said they needed to meet their boss at Hooters and drive back to Pompano with their boss so they needed to store the speakers in a warehouse or motel nearby. "Chris" quickly showed me a magazine showing the speakers for the pronounced price of 1,999.99 each. I said I can only give him $263.56 he said he felt like being nice and he sold them to me. I was scammed and want my money back.
Todd Henderson	Orlando, Florida
12/2/2003 Product or Service Involved: AudioFile Speakers At 11:00a.m. on Tuesday December 3rd I was approached by 2 men in a Silver Ford Explorer, They had a truck full of Speakers and asked if I wanted some. they said they were supposed to pick up 4 speakers for their boss and they loaded up 4 pair? Sounded real enought? I really had no intention of buying any speakers and told them so they persisted asking me what I would pay, they told me another guy just offered them 600.00 for 1 pair and showed me an article in a magazine listing the price @ 1300.00 ea Well like any one I thought how could I pass this up I told them I would give them 100.00 per speaker, they said come on man they are woth over two grand well I said 200 is all I can come up with and bought 1 pair. they followed me to the ATM machine and I paid them 200.00? Later when researching this on the internet I found this was a scam. The speakers do work and sound ok? I am wondering what is wrong with them? will they blow easily I did crank them up pretty loud I guess I have a pair of cheap speakers or at least this is what the everyone else scammed has said.
Layla Labracoon	Tallahassee, Florida
11/14/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 583LR My brother just called. He bought a pair for $175. Wanted me to look them up on the internet to see if he got a really good deal. He had been approached yesterday but he didn't have enough cash on him. They went back today and he took the bait. This is a heads-up for those in TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. November 14, 2003.
VB	Orlando, Florida
10/29/2003 Product or Service Involved: Denmark Loudspeakers E830LR Last year I met 2 guys at a gas station in the Metrowest area of Orlando and they offered me a deal. Said they had picked up 2 too many speakers and their boss would just sell them if they took them back. They asked me how much I could give them. They showed me the sealed boxes, the laminated advertisement. I suggested E-bay and said they had to head to Daytona right away and they were already late. I got $200 from the ATM and gave them $50 I had on me. I felt bad that they were trying to give me a deal on $1300 speakers and I didn't have more. I hooked them up when I got home and I liked them. Even with the volume cranked. I've heard much better, but for $125 each they weren't bad. I never would have thought of it was a scam except I was looking for the website (that I guess doesn't exist anymore) to show a friend. Not a big let down, but it sure seems like a dangerous pitch. The legality seems ify.
SUBTRAKTUM	Everywhere, Florida
10/24/2003 Product or Service Involved: lamer Hello everyone! Sumskrotum here! I just realized i have no life! I make almost no money by scamming people and im not even sure how i got on the internet! jest wanted to say hello to all of my SPEAKER GUY BRETHERN and letcha'll know I still cant speill or complette a sentence! I go by the name of skrotum! i am a badass! i sell shit out of the back of a van! down by the river! i am super cool! I ROLL in cash at least $1000-1500 a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow thats almost $15k a year, i can afford to have my shitty whyte van, a tralier, a goat to have sex wif (MATRIX), and a rusty 91 camaro with this type of MAD CASHH!! WE AREN'T WORRIED DUMBARS! (whatever that means i cunt spell!) we arent worried because we make shit poor earnings by working our asses off out of a van. oh shit i just realized someone who picks up trash makes more money than me!!!!!
Andrew Licht	Jacksonville, Florida
10/24/2003 Product or Service Involved: Speakers Approached two times in the last two weeks. Both times were on Southside Blvd near Baymeadows Rd. Typical drive up approach. First was an SUV. Second time was a white GMC panel van. They asked if I wanted free spreakers. I said no and drove on. Hopefully no one gets ripped.
Robert Fuller	Niceville, Florida
10/19/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research I was aproached by two men in a pewter gmc yukon . I was just pulling into town from my honeymoon. I was suckered into the tr501 home theater system I got the guy down to $300 on the system. I was told the story about getting extras from the warehouse. I was told this was a bose off brand and that these guys worked for the Bose store they even had business cards from the bose outlet store in Destin Florida. These guys are good. But I don't know how these guys live with themselves being liars and cheats and con artists. The beer money is the real kicker . You guys are low down thieves. I would watch my backs. I would imagine there are alot of people ready to kick your a%$es .What pisses me off are the sales tactics. If I wanted Flea market crap I would go to the flea market. Don't pass this stuff off as high end because it is junk. You guys are preying on the trust of people.
fer	Orlando, Florida
9/28/2003 Product or Service Involved: skyline sl 800 speakers same excact procedure described in the scam section. thank god i only payed 160 for both of the speakers. the only difference between the scam was that the guy was in a explorer i think. name of the guy was kyle and he gave me his number but i haven't call him.
SUBTRAKTUM	everywhere, Florida
9/27/2003 Product or Service Involved: allkindzuvm Hello everyone! Sumskrotum here! just wanted to say hello to all of my SPEAKER GUY BRETHERN and letcha'll know I'm still kickin and've had a hankerin to hop back into a van real soon here. You poor, poor PETERs, (allow me to rephrase that) You RICH RICH PETERS are gonna be POOR POOR POORER when Subtraktum comes back to town. Oh, how I miss that trip to your ATM, that peering over your shoulder while you type amounts and correcting you when you attempt to flea. Ahhh, the adrenaline flushing through me like formaldihide through a cadaver. The taunting of you retarted yuppie greed hounds, you gullible maggots festering within the concrete walls of conformist society, only feeds the hunger BURNING inside me to share the wrath which will subtraKT your account balance. None can backout. None can stop my fire. None can turn down the best day ever when Sumskrotum shares with you the magnifisence of which you could be a part of. By the time you read this, you'll've been had. (I should add you've actually been hooked up. 'cause every set I've ever owned sounded f#@king awesome. but most of you lame ass complaining 'talk the talk' pussies never even plug'em in) that's OK though, cause I've never refused to plug it in to your ol' ladies, and quite a few of 'em are wishin right now that I gave 'em a real #, cause they love the way my dink tastes when I take it out of their ars's. (Appologies to any satisfied customers whose females I may've tinkered with. maybe it's time you spice things up.) AnyWhoo. Father, it's been 3 months since my last consession, so here it is: I'll sell ice to Eskimos, the corn from my shit to a crop farmer, and these 4 speakers I just got free on my delivery to any random Joe Schmoe (if you prefer John Doe, that's fine.) I choose. So, Prepare yourselves. I could be sitting outside your window right now, observing as you read my fair warning. I'll be back. And when I do, I'll have to see a chiropractor on account of the wallet on my left ars cheeck being too fat. Shoutout Time: All of my beloved rockers out there; Neight-fruit or vegetable much love; Darrell-muchlove; Mike P-muchlove; AP-muchlove; Neph-loved your message to Peter, muchlove; JOHNNY ROCKER-keep rockin; Paul-you rule; Ssiknad-keep rulin; Danny-you bulldog murfur you. Justice-thank you so much for everything-muchlove; Dennis-you taught me to kick ass. thank you. Rich-if you're out there,; You created a legend; Evit-much love Wero-madlove.;MATRIX f$@#ed me all up, but I got rid of her. much love anyway; Murph-one day my friend, one day. I guess that's about it, sorry if I forgot sum1 but yall know me. I've yet to conquer a hill and everest stands before me. I KANT WAIT. I WILL BE BACK NEVER STOP ROCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And to all you Peters, you're waisting your time on a f#@king computer when you should be out hunting for us, haa ha ha hahe he. WE AREN'T WORRIED DUMBARS! I suppose that's about it. but never fear, SUBTRAKTUM hasnot ceased. and SUBTRACKTUM will not rest untill he's D'ceased. So bring it, MAD BUYER! bRING IT THE FUNK ON!!!!!!! WE DO NOT KNOW FEAR. But you should.
Gordon Freeman	Orlando, Florida
9/23/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research [TR-1110] Two men in a brand new White / Light Grey Ford Explorer, Temporary Tag. Driver's name was Justice Hill, cell phone number 407 340 9623 Passenger unknown. I paid $100 per speaker, one pair. Story was that they were delivering to a local college, and were given 4 pair instead of 4 each. Afterwards they asked for beer money.
Antispeaker guy	Panama City, Florida
9/17/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theatre Research Quote from Speakerguy: To whoever this may concern.... I am a full time "Speaker Guy" I'm making over $1,200 a week plus a paid brand new car in my name. I make this money from people who either very greedy, or really like the speakers. Hmmm only $60,000 isn't much money for the risk you are taking (physically and financially)... Trust me, you will have to work for 10 years to pay off the medical bills its going to cost you. BTW.. I make more money in 1 month than you make in a year.. That's too funny to think about..
Rick Lyon	Casselberry, Florida
9/16/2003 Product or Service Involved: Unknown I just read about this white van speaker scam and realized that I was approached by a white van with the driver offering high end surround sound speaker system for $200. He was pretty aggressive but as I had just purchased a complete set not 2 weeks prior I was in no position to even think about or want new speakers. So after telling him no 7-8 times he finally drove off. I mostly wanted to write to say they are in Orlando, Florida.
jhon	orange, Florida
9/15/2003 Product or Service Involved: theater reserch If you think that story is good just stay tuned for an update on a complaint from 8/19/03 "I'm Watching you" Signed a satisfied customer. Since then I have tracked these people to south Florida West Palm to be exact and back to Orlando I currently have three phone numbers and two addresses I have confirmed the addresses and find them to be accurate. I have been following one of these guys for almost three weeks and am close to dealing with him I promise when I get done with him and his friends they will wish they got beat up. What I have planned is far worse. I will keep you posted. Hey (Mike) Speaker Guy I'm still watching. See you soon. Signed the guy that is about to destroy your life as well anyone associated with you friends family you name it.
Happy Customer	Panama City Beach, Florida
9/14/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theatre Research Well.. I this a great story to tell. I was stopped at a red light when a Blue Van pulled up next to me. The guy (long hair goofy nut) said "Hey I am delivering some speakers to a electronics store and have too many, wanna buy some for cheap?" so said sure (him not knowing that me and 4 other people were looking for this guy because he ripped off a friend of mine).. Well we pulled into a parking lot and I looked at all the crap in his $hitty van. I said, "hey man, i just got some new equipment, but my friend just moved into his new house and would love this stuff".. So I call my friend(s) (the one who got ripped) and acted like he should come and see all this crappy stuff. About 10 minutes later 4 of my friends in 2 different cars came up and we pulled him behind the building we were parked in front of and beat the crap out of him. Broke 3 of his teeth and broke his fingers with a metal bar. Then we took all of the stuff in his van, flattened his tires, took his keys, poured pepsi on his seats and cd player, and locked his van and dropped his keys in the gutter. Then we called the police and said that there is a guy selling drugs in a blue van and gave them the directions.
Mother very mad!	Orlando, Florida
9/10/2003 Product or Service Involved: Digital Audio 2003 FAKE speakers!!! (of course!) I can't believe my son bought them for US$ 200.00 !!!
Steve	Sunrise, Florida
8/26/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audofile 583LR Was approached by two guys in a mini-van with eight speakers in the back claimed they picked up the speakers from a warehouse and got eight instead of four speakers, and wanted to unload the extra four before they went to deliver the four to the JOB. They showed me a brochure reflecting a $1499 price for each speaker, and showed me a warehouse pick-up tag to prove they were not stolen. I bought 4 speakers in sealed boxes, and don't know if they are legit. If they work, that will be great, if not, an expensive lesson. Sad part, I am an Audiophile myself, and never recalled this brand name. To add insult to injury, I went home to get the cash, and could have easily did a google search prior to forking over the dough and found out the info I found out now, while trying to determine the TRUE value of these speakers. Funny thing is, my brother in law was scammed for $250 for two speakers himself days earlier, and he was telling me about it when I told him what a great deal I got. I don't know if I have the heart to tell him that we were both SCAMMED!
NEPHEW	EVERYWHERE, Florida
8/22/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theatre Research .... It's pathetic reading all of these posts about your so called 'encounters' with Speaker Guys. You all think it really bothers us to hear you b*tching and moaning about losing your hard earned cash? Let me clue you in on a little something.. WE LOVE HEARING ABOUT EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LITTLE FLEA ENCOUNTERS! That's what makes us LOVE getting up in the morning for work, KNOWING that i'll take somebodys WHOLE paycheck, and turn it into my own. How stupid must you Adults feel to be Hustled by a 17 yr old Speaker Guy like myself? I've been trained by the best of em' here in Florida.. and it's not even a challenge making you greedy peters to dish over your hard earned cash.. It's all fun to us. We have the best job EVER.. For some reason you think you scared us by saying 'you have your bats ready'... EVERYONE.. PLEASE POINT AND LAUGH AT THESE IDIOTS.. (points at all 'bat holders') BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You talk big but when you really see us again all you do is turn around and walk away like the scared biatches that you all are.. Either that or you get sold again.. TEN TIMES HARDER! Enjoy the Speakers... Your beloved Speaker Guy, NEPHEW
Speaker Guy	None, Florida
8/22/2003 Product or Service Involved: Any Hehehe... I think I just read the cries of a little boy who bought some speakers he is unsatisfied with. (which may I add, probably payed for the Speaker Guy's Jet-Ski payment for the month) hehe.. Anyways, you are watching us..? If I'm not mistaking, we are the ones that were watching you, when we fished you out of the crowd and made you spend your money. Oh and please, whatever you do... don't call the police...hehehe Because if you call the police we could be facing up to a $10 fine! (and we would need to deduct that from the hundreds we made that day) By the way, everyone who has bought speakers from us willingly and happily gave up their cash. Soon we might be getting plasma screen TV's too, so go and save up your cash so you can pay for some more of our bills.
Joe	None , Florida
8/19/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research Speakers Speaker Guy I'm watching you I don't know how many there are of you. Yet. But I know you and your pal. I also have your license plate. Guess what by the end of the week I should know were you live. By the end of the month I will know were your family lives your girl if any your kids if any your Parents Aunts Uncles you name it. If they are there I will find them. Thing is I,m not gonna do anything stupid. I am gonna set you up with the right people (Police) it will be hard to denie when they find what I plant in your car or mabey your house or mabey the --------. Ah it dos'nt matter all that matters is it will be there when the Police show up. Funny thing is thats not even the bad part depending on the Prison you end up in thats when it will get fun. For you anyway. I have manny friends there.You would be suprised what people in prison will do for crate of smokes. Also what about your friends and Family what will happen when I focuss my attention on them, and I will. I don't want my money back this is the best money I have ever spent. I am looking forward to the whole thing. Think of it this way you are in the business of lying and cheating people you can't expect to do that forever and not have someone mess with your life. I might be sick but I don't lie and I only mess with people that mess with me first. The part that bothers me so is that I beleived you were such a good liar. I hate liars the last time this happened it took along time for me to get it out of my system. I thought I was over that but I guess I was wrong. You have no Idea what you have started. But you and YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY will See you Soon Sincerely another satified customer
Speaker Guy	None, Florida
8/18/2003 Product or Service Involved: AUDIOFILE To whoever this may concern.... I am a full time "Speaker Guy" I'm making over $1,200 a week plus a paid brand new car in my name. I make this money from people who either very greedy, or really like the speakers. If you one of the greedy people and think you will buy speakers (that "my boss" will lose money from)and you will sell them and make some quick cash, then you deserve to buy them. If you are one of the people who really like the speakers... well, then what are you complaining about? When you bought them you were happy to pay that price. And to those of you who take them home and look them up before hooking them up, LISTEN TO THEM! they sound great! Where else are you going to buy speakers like these for the price that you people pay for them? You want an interesting fact? The comparable JBL 400w system cost $5 more dollars to make then the AudioFile's. So is it the cost or the quality? Oh, and to all of you "TOUGH GUYS" that have your bat ready...haha...we work the streets, chances are we're ready.
MT	West Palm Beach, Florida
8/17/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 583lr and Digital Audio DHT 5.1 system 2 guys in a black suv. From New Jersey. They told me they work for a delivery company and they got some extra stuff that they were allowed to sell. They had magazines that showed retail prices upwards of $3000 for the two speakers and the box on the home theater system said "1999.99 msrp." I paid $1000 for all of it hoping to get a turnaround but just ended up being broke.
Howard Houston	orlando, Florida
8/16/2003 Product or Service Involved: Thearter research THE DAY THE LITLE MEXICAN THINKS HE FUNKED ME! One day I was driving down the road when I was stopped by the littlest mexican I think I have ever seen in my life I'm talking tinny. The goofy funk with him called his ars Chuck Hurn, he was really mexican I bet his real name was like Chico or something. I got the speakers, and I gave CHICO and his goofy partner a set of my shitty drums that I stole. I also gave them a little bit of money but what CHICO doesnt know is that all the money was counterfit. So Chico if your out there with you homo side burns I hope you know that day I made you grab your ankels and I just funked you hard like Mexican style. LOVE yours truly, Howard Houston
adam siler	Destin, Florida
8/14/2003 Product or Service Involved: Tr-8000 I was confronted on street on highway 98. Guy said he had a set of speakers he had to get rid of. Same as everyone else. I had been confronted by another van similar to this about 3 months prior didn't buy that time. But spent $400 on these speakers.
Desert Eagle	.50 CAL., Florida
8/12/2003 Product or Service Involved: BAD ASS SPEAKERS TO EVERYBODY WITH A BASEBALL BAT IN THEIR TRUNK WAITING FOR ME. DOES IT STOP BULLETS?
Mike Hunt	Speakerville, Florida
8/12/2003 Product or Service Involved: All speakers sold out of vans for this business. Dear Fraud Buster, Do you know where the library is. I want to read some more stories. I hope I run into you on the street. For everyone else here, if you bought them, live and learn. There is nothing you can do to get your money back, have us arrested or prosecute us. If you want to drive around and try to find us, go for it. Have a nice day! Sincerely, Mike Hunt
JOHN LUTHER	Boca Raton, Florida
8/5/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 583LR Speakers When I was stopped at the red light, a white van pulled next to me and asked me whether I need some speakers. I said "let me see". The guy showed me his speaker in original box. Outside the box is written "Designed in USA", "400 Watt Home Theater Speaker". The guy showed me some kind of catalog and it said reatiled price "$2000" and asked me for $500. I said I only have $200 and they sold a pair of speaker to me. I don't care about the money I lost. I want someone should come up with a game plan to track down these f***ing guys. So that nobody gets scammed again.
Matt Kitchen	Panama City, Florida
8/2/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research?? I was vacuuming my mothers car at the local gas station, and these guys drove up, honked their horn and yelled at me, so i wasted 2 dollars and stopped vacuming because they seamed to be in quite a rush. They were looking for a little money to get in a hotel room or get a storage ben for the items they had in their van. They told me they would give me a Box that retailed for 1500 dollars, STUPIDLY I said, ok. I dont have any cash but I have a shit load of Audio stuff over at my house I would be willing to trade (this box and these subs looked good) so they followed me to my house and I gave them 1 Cerwin Vega 124 Series 12' Subwoofer (brand new) in a brand new custom made carpeted box, 2 Koiiler 1000W 4OHM DVC Subwoofers (brand new), a single 12' Q-Logic Carpeted box and a 800W Pioneer AMP that was also new (but fried, I told them it worked though) something didnt feel right about this situation, after they left, I got very nervous on these guys and that they know where I live, he also said he had a ton of Volkswagen parts and if he saw me driving my bug he would stop me and talk to me (If he does that, I will beat the $#%# out of him) He seamed very nice but it didnt feetl right, now I know why thanks to SCAM SHIELD. I dont know how these subs sound but if they are terrible I will just sell them, trade them or put different subs in the box. The box is decent, I build subwoofers enclosures. I dont know what to do about this situation though. I gave away about 800 dollars worth of stereo equiptiment. They were even willing to take 20 bux for these. I am considering going around to the all Hotels around here to get my stuff back. If SCAM SHIELD can help me in any way, I would be GREATLY appericated. Thanks
brad	West Palm Beach, Florida
7/24/2003 Product or Service Involved: theater research tr-1100 this is just an update from my previous report. By the way the"offense" happened in west palm beach at the winn dixie on cresthaven and military trail. Upon further investigation of my speakers, tearing the speakers apart last night, I found some cheap shitty speakers inside, some of them were worse than cheap!!!They were "dummies"!!! Which really doesn't really surprise me. The bottom two speakers of the towers are for looks only. These are straight up pssys! These guys will receive theirs. I know first hand about karma. When the speaker gig is over with these guys will turn somewhere else for that quick dollar and they won't get off so easy. I did eight years in prison for stupid shit just like that! You speaker guys out selling those shitty speakers are the ones being punked out by the higher ups your boss's are like pimps they sit back and collect the cash while you guys get your percentage but is that really worth it? It won't be when someone beats you guys brains out or when you're in the "joint" and some brother is screwing you up your sht hole. Cause you punks are cowards that's obvious. I will get peace of mind one day cause my eyes are on the look out for punks in white vans selling sh*itty stereo speakers! My bat is in my trunk. Anyone with information on Theater Research like where they can be located would be greatly appreciated!
brad	None, Florida
7/23/2003 Product or Service Involved: theater research I was approached leaving winn dixie by a white van with two people in it.they came by my car as i was getting ready to get in and told me they had some extra stereo speakers that they had to get rid of before they met their boss which of course would see the "extra" speakers and pull "rank" and take them and they were from out of town and had no where to stash them so they were trying to get rid of them real fast and wanted to know what they were worth to me?the passenger was the one doing all the talking he was the younger one of the two. he told me he was turning 22 or 23 in december. anyway,i told him there was no way i could pay him anywhere near the 1,499.99 a piece that the box had them priced at.I told him," i had 300 hundred dollars in the bank and i wouldn't think if trying to offer them such a small amount for 3000 dollars worth of speakers unless they wanted to go by my house to see what my wife had to say about taking a little money out of our savings account. they were like,"no! we don't have time to do that and that's when he said they'd look out for me and give them to me for the 300 dollars. i was a greedy sucker and i'll admit i was thinking about a quick re-sale to one of my buddies. that's what i get! but it's still not right that these guys are doing this and i'll be the very first person to step up to do whatever i can to stop these punks! yeah they had the invoice showing how many speakers they were supposed to be given they had their whole "game plan" down to a tee. Any information on Theater Research products would be greatly appreciated!
Alex Cook	Gainesville, Florida
7/11/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile I was in the parking lot of a local supermarket one afternoon and was approached by two fellows in a white Ford Ranger pick up truck. They pulled up right after I got out of my car and commented on how I look like the type of person who enjoys nice things. He showed me over to his truck and explained to me that he had just delivered some speakers to Best Buy or somewhere and recieved to many from his warehouse. He said that if he went back to his place of business they were just going to loose the speakers, and he might as well make a little money off of them. He even showed me an orderform. I wans't interested at all untill he showed me a magazine that had the same speakers in it for around $1,600. I figured if I bought them I could atleast sell them and make my money back. So we agreed on $200 for the pair. They loaded them up into my car and they told me that if we ever ran into each other at Hooter, the beers were on me. I got home later and looked up the speakers on a search engine I use and nothing but scam websites showed up. Pretty disappointing.
Pilot	Orlando, Florida
6/24/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theatre Research Blue Van pulled up to my buddy in a parking lot today, showed the brochures and invoices, and told him the speakers (Theatre Research) retail for $999 each. He got taken for $300 for the pair. I'm writing in for him because a few years ago, I was taken as well. Karma is a serious issue though and these guys will get what's coming to them...
THE ARTIST FORMALLY KNOWN AS MURPH	FT. LAUDERDALE, Florida
6/14/2003 Product or Service Involved: DENMA...........DYNAL........DIGITA........DOG...DAHLT........:) FINALLY THE MURPH HAS COME BACK TO SCAM SHEILD! WELL WELL WELL HOW ARE THE UNHAPPY PEOPLE DOING TODAY I USED TO BE A SPEAKERMAN NOW I JUST DREAM ABOUT IT I USED TO BE THAT GUY WITH THOSE SPEAKERS WITH THAT NEED FOR SOME REASON DROP THEM OFF AT YOUR DOORSTEP THEN I FOUND SCAMSHIELD AND MY SPEAKERSELLING DAYS WERE UMMMMMMM..........LETS SAY I AM ON A BIT OF A VACATION AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH INEED TO SELL SPEAKERS IT IS IN MY BLOOD I HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED (BY THE BEST) TO HAVE YOU GIVE ME WHAT I WANT, WHEN I WANT, HOW I WANT IT AND IF I WANT IT AGAIN THEN IN THE WORDS OF THE FOO FIGHTERS DONE DONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE... I WAS BURN OUT NOW I AM HUNGRY ...DO IT UP JEFF AND FOR ALL YOU SPEAKER OWNERS OUT THERE IN OH IN KY PA NJ NY MD DE WV TN AND MI....HE,HE YOUR WLCOME.. AND FOR ANYBODY ELSE......ANYWHERE ELSE....... EVERYWHERE ELSE.........SELL YA LATER A.F.K.A.M. P.S. "I CAN HERE IT CALLING ME THE WAY IT USED TO DO" LED ZEPPLIN DEATH TO THE INTERNET MINDF*%#ING FAIRIES
Adam G.	Jacksonville, Florida
5/22/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research TR-500 I was at the gas station pumping gas, and a dark green suv pulls up with 2 men in it hollering "hey man you want some speakers? they told me they could show me what they had and they pulled over, telling me a story that they were on their way to make a delivery to their store, but someone loaded an "extra pair" of speakers on their truck. they told me that i could buy them right now and their company would never miss them. i did. for $250.00. i cant believe i didnt catch on because it was 12:10 pm and they said they were supposed to have made their delivery at noon, yet they STILL volunteered to follow my girlfriend and I to the bank to get the money. i'm such an idiot....they better never let me see them in this side of town again.
J	Boca Raton, Florida
5/13/2003 Product or Service Involved: AudioFile 583LR Same deal except this time Black TrailBlazer. Showed me magazine article that these things went for $1600. THey said they had 2 pairs left. Got me down to $200. Haven't tried them yet cause i know they are POS because of what I have read online. My baseball bat is ready....
t	Winter Springs , Florida
4/28/2003 Product or Service Involved: van Speakers Guys pulled up next to me in the van and were yelling out their window to me if i wanted to buy spearkers. I knew it was a scam and I blew them off.
Bryan Rogers	Jacksonville , Florida
4/18/2003 Product or Service Involved: Pro dynamics Happen almost exactly like the article. Was yelled at by two guys in a truck, the talker said they were installing the system and got over shipped. Right down the line like the article even asking me to buy him and his buddy beer. I only paid $120 for two decent speakers so I don't feel so bad. I knew it was a scam when about a week later another guy approached me at a gas station with almost the exact same dialogue. I smiled and told him the story from before and asked him what the angle was on the scam. He laughed and explained the basics of it. The article was so accurate it was weird. These guys must be getting some good coaching. bryan rogers
Ryan	Tallahassee, Florida
3/28/2003 Product or Service Involved: Pro Dynamics The scam worked exactly as the site describes. I paid $300 for the TX1200 speakers and threw in an extra $20 for "beer money"...this guy must be a pri@k, because I told him I didn't need speakers because I already have a good set, but then he convinced me I could easily sell them for much more than I paid for them... Anyway, I got the guy's license tag because I was skeptical: U76 ICS Registered to a white GMC van: Chad M. Garofalo 2121 E.Sunrise Blvd Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33304 Unfortunately, after extensive checks using various means, I am unable to come up with additional info, and I don't want to drive 8 hours down to Lauderdale on a "maybe". This address exists, but who knows if that is the guy I bought them from, or if he's there now.
Joe	Daytona Beach, Florida
3/15/2003 Product or Service Involved: Denmark E830LR Same story as everyone else only they got my son's attention in the Sam's parking lot, relieved him of $250.00. Anyone that will rip off a kid is capable of anything. You guys are on notice I'm now looking for you, better still have the 250. The problem with this site is the only reason we are here is we have already been ripped. So tell all your friends before it's too late for them. If it seems too good to be true it probably is!!!
G. Rivera	Daytona Beach, Florida
3/12/2003 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research TR-501 5.1 Surround System with a "Flashy Box" that has a list price of over $2,900 US. Speakers are horrible and have a terrible buzzing noise..
John	Coral Springs , Florida
3/10/2003 Product or Service Involved: Dahlton Tower Speakers & Digital Audio 2000 surround sound system I was scammed by two 20 something guys. License plate #V17-XJR Green Jeep Grand Cherokee. Lookin for Kelfi Distributors, T & M Enterprises, Orka distributors address to get my money back. PLEASE HELP email: bootaysnatcher@yahoo.com
Jason Webster	Tampa, Florida
3/4/2003 Product or Service Involved: White Van Speakers This was my second encounter with the white van speaker people. I was approached outside a mall in Tampa,FL. I had an encounter with them a few years before in Tallahassee and knew the scam. The same tactic of excited high-pressure sales was used. I repeatedly said not interested. It took about 3 minutes to get these guys off my case. This was my second encounter with these people, but it would not be my last.
Jason Webster	Tallahassee, Florida
3/4/2003 Product or Service Involved: White Van Speakers This was my third encounter with the white van people. I was approached outside a Circuit City store by a white van. I knew the scam. I thought they wanted driving directions so I acknowledged them. Next thing I know I am listening to a sales pitch. They claimed that they tried to deliver someone a $2000.00 pair of speakers and that their invoice was inaccurate. They claimed they could sell them to me for $500.00 and their boss would never miss the speakers. I repeated not interested several times and still they continued. Only after I told them I had no money to spend on speakers did they finally give it up. This was my third encounter with the white van people and hopefully my last.
Jason Webster	Tallahassee, Florida
3/4/2003 Product or Service Involved: White Van Speakers My friends and I were approached in our apartment parking lot. Three men in a white mini van asked us if we were interested in hifi stereo equipment. We took the bait and they proceeded to show us the merchandise. It was plain to me that what they were selling was pure junk however my friends seemed interested. I thought my friends were going to buy some of their speakers so I spoke up and said I thought they shouldn't buy. Immediately I felt like I was going to be beaten into a pulp. The three men started yelling and started using profanity. My friends realized that no legitimate person would ever threaten someone over a sale. The three men left without making a sale and were very pissed off. This was my first encounter with the white van people, but not my last.
jim	Daytona Beach, Florida
2/13/2003 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile stopped me in the super kmart parking lot on international speedway.... same story as everyone else. they were driving a blue ford explorer, said his name was aaron and i even checked his i.d. which was probably fake.... i'm willing to set out a hunt for these guys and beat them till they give us our $$$$ back. anyone in???? let me know
j k	None, Florida
2/11/2003 Product or Service Involved: Dahlton (Kelfi) Dahlton 2500 ti tower speakers. 10" sub
John	Daytona Beach, Florida
2/8/2003 Product or Service Involved: Dahlton KV 2500 ti At the intersection on Clyde Morris and Beville road in a blue Chevy Trailblazer two guys drove by honking their horn and waving. Convinced me to pull over to look at the speakers. Wouldn't fu@king leave me alone no matter how many times I told them no. Said they didn't want their boss to see them. I started walking away and the driver hopped out and put them in my truck. I ended up giving them $200 for them and $20 for beer money those fu@ks. When I left he said "piss your neighbors off for me". One guy said his name was Justice. We need to set up a group of guys that just goes around and looks for these guys and beats the fu@k out of them. They looked like a couple of pussy ass bitches anyway. I'm game anytime to beat their ass so let me know.
Dante	Orlando, Florida
12/20/2002 Product or Service Involved: High Quality Speakers 3 college age looking people pulled up to me in the Parking lot at UCF Calling to me while I was approaching my car. They were in green SUV. I told them I was not interested after I inquired about their product but the one in the passenger seat persisted. When I refused he started insulting me as they pulled out of the parking lot. The one was very aggressive and harrasing when he discovered I was not interested. Dante, Bond 144
Dustin	Orlando, Florida
11/7/2002 Product or Service Involved: Denmark E830LR's Same old, same old. Approached at a bank at East Colonial (50) and Alafaya (434). Guy in a greenish SUV says he's a courier for a company named Orka and was given an extra pair of Denmark speakers at the distributors. Real convincing laminated advertisement sheets, invoices, etc. Can't believe I ended up giving him 320 for a pair. I'm usually not a naive person and actually just planned on pawning them or putting them on e-bay, but I'll be lucky to make half my money back at this point. I'm just in shock I actually got taken for a ride. The guy's supposed name was Eric and I copied down all this info., so we'll see what happens with that. Also, said he DJ's at Alpha Bar in downtown Orlando, under the name DJ Click. Definitely gonna do some searching and digging, please let me know if anyone has anymore info no this. ucfphi225@hotmail.com
Informed Too Late	Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
11/5/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital audio Same as all the rest. Paid $400 cash for the pair at Mobil Gas station off Broward and I-95 to some guy who looked like the lead singer to limp bizkit. Didn't get a receipt obviously and would luv to file some sort of complaint and get my money refunded, but from reading the other stories, it doesn't seem likely. (The Guy with the baseball bat revenge was great! lol!) Haven't hooked them up yet, but i'm certain they are not worth what i paid for them now. Hope they at least work. These scams sound very Mafia-like. The only way to stop them is to get the word out to others and be informed i guess.
Marco Sandi	Miami, Florida
10/30/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile Two guys in Jeep SUV, on way back from installing speakers and had two leftover. Were just trying to make a couple extra bucks. The guy gave me his phone number in case I needed any help installing. It works, I called him. He also gave a possible distributor name in South Beach but I don't think he meant to. I'm going to try and get a refund.
Matthew Warner	Fort Lauderdale, Florida
10/23/2002 Product or Service Involved: DOGG Digital Audio Cinema Series 2 (black) OK... a few months back some guys at a light were trying to sell speakers saying they were from Orlando and had to get rid of extra stuff or they'd be in trouble or some crap. Yesterday i was at the gas station and some guys were showing someone some speakers. So I went and looked. They had a nice SUV and were dresssed well and showed me that the dogg digital audio speakers cinema series 2 sold for 1000 a piece they wanted 600 for the pair. I got them down to 400...lol...but now I'm hearing all this dogg scam stuf and am worried that the speakers suck or are just not worth anything. I hooked them up to my Sony shelf stereo 100w x2 and they sounded really good! are they? what are they worth? ebay i cant sell them people seem to be scared. please help me this is rampant in ft lauderdale fl. these van suv guys. gimme some info on these speakers plzz.
Speaker Guy	Anywhere, USA, Florida
10/2/2002 Product or Service Involved: Pro Dynamics, Audiophile, Digital Audio, Dogg Digital Audio Hello ladies and gentleman, It's your local area Speaker Guy here. I was alerted that this web-site was slandering my buisness, what I do for a living is infact not a scam, the people who purchase my product all part with their money willingly. None of the sales I have made have been an intimidated sale, by which I mean to say that if someone says no, ok that's fine I'll leave them alone, if you don't want what I have to sell you, that's cool, I'll sell it to someone else. the reason I am writing this little response to you is to say that what I do pays my bills, just like what you do for a living pays your bills. if you are one of those people out there who thinks that what I do is a scam then just tell us so when we pitch you, don't waste our time.To some our services are greatly appreciated, to others we're a public hazard, to those people who have bought speakers from us and love them, thank you. and to all you people out there who bought speakers from us and think you got ripped off, I bet you haven't even hooked them up yet. if one of us pitches you and undoubtably it will happen somewhere someday, just go with it it's an experiance you can come out on top of if you know how to talk money and you're quick with your wits. Lots of luck, The Speaker Guys
Fernando	Miami, Florida
9/30/2002 Product or Service Involved: AUDIOFILE 830 LR I fell to this scam as well as many of you guys, but i got their tag number just in case. They were both of white male background but once spoke really accented Spanish, for he tried speaking to me in spanish. I got their Tag Number. They ride a SUV with this number: U79 KHT If you see them again, maybe we can prevent them from taking advantage of more people.
anonymous	Tampa, Florida
9/29/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Speakers Several weeks ago I encountered these van driving cretins. I had them follow me to an obscure location near an interstate off ramp. I told them I was checking my trunk to see if I had room for the speakers. I took the baseball bat I keep in the trunk and hit the first in the cheek and ear. The other one ran, but I caught him and beat him with the bat. I found the address of the distributor and mailed them a few teeth from the first guy. This may seem brutal, but if the police wont do anything, this may be the only way to get these criminals off the street. The Fraud Buster
Matt Eckert	Boca Raton, Florida
9/25/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital Audio They approached me while I was coming out of the shopping plaza across from where I go to college and were very persistant and very convincing that they had be give 1 pair 2 many and they wanted to sell them for real cheap. They showed me a listed price of $1,400 and said they wanted $520 for them.. So me being the dumb college student that I am I bought them thinking it would be a nice present for the parents. Once I got on the internet to look and see what they really went for Come to find out it was a bunch of scam artists. A police report was filled but I have my doubts that they will be caught.
Vernon Bush	Panama City, Florida
9/25/2002 Product or Service Involved: Digital Audio Looks like I got scammed. These folks were hanging around in the Home Depot parking lot claiming they had just made a "High-End" speaker delivery to the audio store sharing the same parking lot. They had a van full of "Dogg Digital Audio" speakers. They were selling a model SL-1500 tower priced on the box at $1999 each for $125 each. They claimed to have been given a double load at the warehouse and just wanted to get rid of the extras. The speakers work but sound like $125 speakers.
Gullible	Longwood, Florida
9/24/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital Audio SL-1100 While driving on 17-92 Casselberry, FL, I was approached by two 20-ish guys driving a green van loaded with Dogg Digital Audio speakers in original boxes. Like the other stories, they delivered speakers for a Longwood Sound F/X company and had extra units to be liquidated before returning to their boss. They showed the invoice and retail price of the speakers in a magazine ad. They bargained to see what I would pay for the speakers. Eventually both agreed to $400 cash for a pair of Dogg SL-1100. I returned home and checked on the Internet and realized this's been an on-going scam all around. I was lucky that these tower speakers actually work. My speculation is: these made-in-China speakers are originated from some Chinese speaker factory that has manufacturing experience for name brands and later produces its own sub-brand with similar but cheaper design and casing. The sub-brand can not legally compete with the authentic name-brand products, so their wholesale distribution line developed such swindling tactics towards the gullible people off the streets. Is this type of sale legitimate as said in the defense of those who profit from it? It probably lies in the grey area. Most buyers care more about if their deals are fair. To me, although the speakers do not sound too bad, I should not have paid more than $200-300 for the pair in my normal mind. I hate the disgusted feelings of being manipulated and scammed more than the money lost.
Kevin Martin	Orlando, Florida
9/13/2002 Product or Service Involved: digital audio home speakers a black suburban approached me before work at 436 and Red Bug. very convincing tried to sell the speakers for 750 a pair. wouldn't budge at 400. sold at 400. drove to my bank to collect my money. now the speaker sound amazing so i do not feel totally ripped off but i have heard of speakers not working at all. please beware of this tahoe in orlando.
Anthony Walter	West Palm Beach, Florida
9/10/2002 Product or Service Involved: Speakers Scam: Extra speakers from the back of a van. Location: West Palm Beach, Corner of 45 th street and Milliary Trail I have been approach several times in the last ten years by this scam (and never fallen for it), so as these scamsters tried to approach me today I was prepared. I told these scammers, "Yeah yeah, I have heard this scam before. Bye Bye." Basically their pitch was the same "We have extra speakers they loaded from the warehouse by mistake" I had heard before, but the fact that their pitch has been repeated to me so many times got me thinking. This has to be an organized effort I thought. What I was interested in was how any legitmate business could base sales effort on shady tactics and lies. I don't know what to do next time except maybe get the license plates.
john hrabovsky	Palm Coast, Florida
8/13/2002 Product or Service Involved: audio 5 speakers ripped off for 650.00 for name brand speakers. got them home and they barely even worked. that's what i get for buying shit off the street. if you see these 2 guys in there late twenties. kick their ass for me, if i don't see them first.
SK	Daytona Beach, Florida
7/20/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile I sent a letter of demand via certified mail to the "new" location but it came back undelivered.
BlizzardPimp	Melbourne, Florida
7/2/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile Dude tried to flag me down in a parking lot. He said he had some speakers he needed to get rid of or his boss would kill him. He was in an SUV. I told this fool to beat it as I have been approached several times in the last year with similar pitches and sniffed a scam in the works. I followed the dude for a while and he kept approaching people and i saw him whip out a catalog for some chump to peruse. If i see this dude again i think i'll give him a beat down and tell him to get off his lazy ass and get a real job. Blizzard Pimp
Cannot Give	None, Florida
6/24/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 830LR Speakers I forgot to tell you, it's Orka Distributors
Cannot Give	Daytona, Florida
6/24/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 830LR Speakers These scammers just moved into my complex. They ripped a friend of mine off a year or so ago. I know ALOT of people are looking for them because you DO have 3 days to find them and they will give you a refund. The reason nobody gets one is because they stay so well hidden. Not Anymore! Here's they're new address as of 6/7/2002 217 Altamonte Commerce Blvd. Unit 1226 Altamonte Springs Florida Coming from Daytona, take I-4 to exit 94, Go right on 434, then take a quick first left onto Markham Woods Rd. (which turns into Douglas Ave) Go approx. 2 miles and turn right onto Altamonte Commerce Blvd. (it's the last steet before the light)It's the 2nd entrance on the right. They have about 8 "White Vans" and are in and out of the office all day. They load up full of speakers at about 8 - 8:30 am every weekday. 217 Altamonte Commerce Blvd. Unit 1226
REDNECK	Jacksonville, Florida
6/14/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital Audio 5.1 home entertainment system Some little guys in a pick up truck sellin the speakers. If i see them again i will take my sawed off shot gun and stick it up their asses and pull the triger. I told all my boys and if they show up they will go home without some balls. I want my money back.
Terry Wade	Merritt Island, Florida
6/12/2002 Product or Service Involved: speakers Was approached by 2 guys at Merritt Square Mall parking lot, about 9am. Don't remember details of vehicle, I believe it was a white SUV. I didn't fall for the pitch - extra home speakers they wanted to get rid of- told them I was all set for speakers so didn't get into any of the details. Their pitch struck me as strange, but I had no idea it was part of such a wide ranging scam. Glad I followed my instincts. Anyway, they're in Merritt Island now, must have tapped out Orlando.
Haven't Been Had, But Know Who Has	Orlando, Florida
6/10/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital Speakers TO JON DATED 6/9 IN ORLANDO AND ANYONE ELSE WHO IS STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY ANYTHING OFF THE STREETS, ESPECIALLY SPEAKERS. The business is run by 2 guys named Uncle Scrooge* and Donald Duck. I know this from one of their salesman. I also got the names of their salesman. Including this Scrooge character, a guy named Daryl, and a bunch of other clowns. They run it out of a warehouse on 434, near Florida Hospital. If you do your research you can find it. My friend made the mistake of going to Scrooge's home thinking it was run out of his house. He was sadly mistaken and was almost arrested for trespassing and threatening his parents. If you really want to get your money back, you need to find this warehouse, but don't waste your time unless you got some big balls. My friends were almost crushed for going to the wrong place. Eventually he tracked down the warehouse, and worked out a deal. GOOD LUCK! Note from Scam Shield: The actual names of Uncle Scrooge and Donald Duck have been changed to protect the "not-so-innocent". The real identities can be obtained by contacting us or Agent Jackie Dowd at the Attorney General's Office at 407-245-0833.
SK	Daytona Beach, Florida
6/10/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile speakers I've been doing some research trying to find the Audiofile distributor, but I can't drive to Orlando every time I need to check a place out. If someone in Orlando could help me it would be appreciated. keefers@mybluebunny.com
Jon	Orlando, Florida
6/9/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital I was sold a pair of Dogg Digital speakers by Uncle Scrooge. He was with another guy and they claimed that they picked up four pairs instead of four speakers and they neede to get rid on them before their boss found out. To make a long story short I bought into their lies and bought a pair of speakers. Before I handed over the money I made sure to take down the driver's license info of the guy who was doing all the talking. When I realized the speakers sucked I tried contacting him. I spoke to Uncle Scrooge and his boss, Donald Duck. Donald was supposed to call me back about refunding the money that Scrooge scammed me out of. He never did. Donald is a wholesaler of Dogg Digital speakers and is probably behind many of the ripoffs around Orlando. Note from Scam Shield: The actual names of Uncle Scrooge and Donald Duck have been changed to protect the "not-so-innocent". The real identities can be obtained by contacting us or Agent Jackie Dowd at the Attorney General's Office at 407-245-0833.
Marsell's Something Special	Winter Springs, Florida
6/6/2002 Product or Service Involved: Speakers I too would like for these scammers to be caught and prosecuted. However, we are incorrectly put down on this website as having anything to do with this. We are a small ceramic company in Winter Springs. We have been here for 12 years. 11 of those years were at Suite #177, the current address of the scammers. Our current address is different, but our phone number is being listed on this site as speaker sellers. Not true at all. I have contacted the owners of this website to try and correct the error. PLease call TRA properties in Winter Springs- This is the landlord of the building at suite 177. thank you
Confucious	Orlando , Florida
6/3/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital A wise man once said... Never trust anyone who types in all caps.
William	Tampa, Florida
6/1/2002 Product or Service Involved: Pro Dynamics A green van with two 18-22 year old white males asked me if I was interested in some speakers. I was across from my work at the Kash and Karry in Florida and Fletcher Ave in Tampa. I was looking for some speakers at the time so I said alright let me see. The were real jittery and said the same extras by mistake. They claimed they worked for Gold Coast Audio or Gulf? I thought something was up by the way they were acting so I wasn't about to hand over any big bucks. The speakers said they Retail Price 1099.00 Each, Yeah right. It also says that "Suggested Retail prices do not represent a bonafide selling price in the metro trading area" I decided that they were worth about fifty bucks each. I said I'd give them a hundred for both of them. They were all like a hundred each? NO for both. Well they got me up to 150.00 for both and they seem to be worth it. I took them apart and they have a passive cross over and besides being cheaply made are ok. They were also trying to sell me some Digital Dogg surround sound speakers that they had gotten by accident also. The beer money crap was also used but they can buy their own beers. One also claimed to be a DJ and go to USF as a business major. DJ Shorty? Inspect what they are trying to sell you and use your best judgement. Remember if they got them for free why wouldn't they sell them to you for $50.00?
Steve Woodcock	Pensacola, Florida
5/22/2002 Product or Service Involved: Dogg Digital Audio Just like the other stories. Two 18 - 24 year olds.
Chad Tressler	Daytona Beach , Florida
5/22/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile AND DOGG digital audio i've been approached at least 10 times in the past 4 years that i've been at college in daytona beach. once in the parking lot of my dormitory my sophomore year, multiple times in the parking lot of publix grocery store on beville rd, multiple times in the parking lot of circuit city on ISB. Around the time of major racing events at the Daytona International Speedway, they claim they were on the setup crew for the race, and had extra speakers delivered so they kept them and are selling htem "way below what they're worth" i've always avoided them, the first time because the one guy was obviously drunk and really annoying, and afterwards because i figured there couldn't be THAT many "extra" speakers in this world.
FSONE	Deltona, Florida
5/22/2002 Product or Service Involved: AUDIOFILE 830LR I WAS GETTING OUT OF ALBERTSONS AND I WAS APPROACHED BY THE TWO GUYS IN THE INFAMOUS WHITE VAN AND THEY TOLD ME THE SAME STORY, THEY HAD TO GET RID OF THE SPEAKERS BEFORE THEY GOT BACK TO THIER BOSS. THEY SHOWED ME THE ARTICLES THAT SAID THEY WERE WORTH $1300. I WAS LOOKING FOR SOME HOME THEATER SPEAKERS SO I BOUGHT THEM FOR $200 AND THEY ASKED FOR $20 FOR BEER. I TOOK THEM HOME AND THEY SOUNDED GREAT. I BOUGHT THE PAIR OF SPEAKERS THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE FOR $200 FROM BEST BUY AND THE AUDIOFILE SPEAKERS ARE WAY BETTER. I THINK I GOT A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.
SK	Daytona Beach, Florida
5/21/2002 Product or Service Involved: Audiofile 2 guys in a 2002 explorer same old story "we got 2 extra by accident and have 10 minutes before we meet our boss, they're worth $1400"
Christopher	Lake Mary, Florida
5/21/2002 Product or Service Involved: Unknown Two young guys offered speakers for a cheap price after they installed similar speakers at an off site job. They were driving a silver mini-van. Look out!!!
Concerned person	Tallahassee, Florida
5/7/2002 Product or Service Involved: Pro Dynamics speakers We got scammed two weeks ago by a guy in a van riding around in Tallahassee. Pro Dynamics speakers, and they looked like high quality. Needless to say it was a huge scam. Please do not get caught by these f@#$ing a$$holes.
SPEAKERMAN2002	SPEAKERVILLE, Florida
5/7/2002 EVERYONE OUT THERE IN FLORIDA "DUDE YOUR GETTIN SPEAKERS" JUST LIKE "DUDE YOUR GETTING A DELL" YOU DONT GET YOUR NAME OFF THE LIST TILL YOU BUY EM.........AUDIOPHILE SUCKS REAL BAD. DON'T BUY EM....MAKE SURE YOU GET THE DOGG DIGITAL THE REAL ONES SEE YOU AT YOUR LOCAL BANK FROM ALL SPEAKER GUYS EVERYWHERE YOU FCKIN ROCK GUYS ROCK OUT WITH YOUR CCK OUT MAKE SURE YOU GIVE US $20 FOR BEER OR YOUR A QUEER!!! OH AND ONE LAST THING I'LL SEE YOU AT THE BAR-B-Q BRING SOME HOT DOGS!
anon	St. Pete, Florida
5/5/2002 I got a job selling these speakers one summer. It was quite entertaining, really. Good luck stopping these people. We were stopped by the police several times, and only cited for solicitation without a license. People at the office paid the fine. If you get them for $200 or less you got a good deal. Our cost was $200, but if we were close to quota, or there was a good contest we'd let them go