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California Distributor/Manufacturer:
Audio Wood Products
14430 Monte Vista Avenue
Chino Hills, California
Contact: Mike Amoroso
Phone: (909) 606-1656
Alt. Phone: (909) 606-4057

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Skye	Pacific Beach, California
6/12/2013 Product or Service Involved: rs 232 5.1 surround sound 2 ladies in pacific beach right in front of funky monkey smoke shop, in a blue pt cruiser, fuck these bitches. right after my older bro passed away we get scammed like this. FUCK THESE BITCHES. they best not show up around pb again, or they will be fucked, or if any other busta motha fucka tries to sell me a stereo.
Jack	San Diego, California
5/20/2013 Product or Service Involved: Spectrum RS 232 Dark haired man at Penera Bread on Balboa Avenue in San Diego, CA. Showed me his Marines ID and said that he had an extra speaker system for sale of $1700. He talked to me about it for a little while. I told him I didn't have that kind of money. He lowered it to $500. I said "Still no deal. I don't have that kind of money." He lowered it to $100 and I bought it. I found this site searching for how to install it in my home. Guess I was scammed seeing how others were victim to this as well. Haven't installed them yet. Not sure if they work. Expecting the worse but hoping for the best. Keep on the look out San Diego!
John	Yuba City, California
5/17/2013 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic- ka-8100 Fuckers got me in Yuba City. fml
Mason	Temecula, California
5/15/2013 Product or Service Involved: Banng & Ebsen I was on break outside of my work, and a grey Nissan Quest van pulled up, with 3 people inside, 2 guys and a girl, asking if I wanted to buy a stereo system. I said no, TWICE, and he said "come on man, I'll sell it cheap!" and I decided I'd check it out. He had 3 "Banng & Ebsen" "5.1 surround" systems in the back, with a price tag of $2,649 or something like that. I said not interested and he said he'd sell it for whatever...I said I had $150, and he hesitated for a few minutes until his friend was like "come on man, our boss is calling!" and finally did the deal. Opened it up when I got home and it actually didn't look too bad, but definitely not $150 worth. At most I'd pay $50 for it if I had seen the set out of the box. Oh well, the speakers and subs don't sound too bad so I'll rig them up to my computer sound system. I'm just glad I didn't get hustled out of too much money.
Long	San Jose, California
5/8/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkosen r-70 Just found out about this website after I bought the product. $200
Karen smith	Whittier, California
5/7/2013 Product or Service Involved: Banng and ebsen hd 37 Grayish blue van pull up to the side of fresh and easy and ask if I want to buy surround sound for a really cheap price and that he didn't want to take them back to his boss. He had a lot of boxes in his van. H wax a Hispanic guy in his late 30s with a goatee. He was wearing a uniform.
A M	San Diego, California
5/3/2013 Product or Service Involved: Spectrum RS 232 2 guys in point Loma driving around Dicks Sporting Goods.
Trae West	Bakersfield, California
5/1/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-10 Just got Scamed I can't believe this shit I thought I was getting a good deal on this shit. But now that I did my research on this bullshit I just lost $100 and if I catch these mouthafuckas ima end up in jail for Fucking them the Fuck Up
MM	oceanside, California
4/21/2013 Product or Service Involved: r-10 These foos saying if i want free speakers right? we pull over they try to sell us this shit saying if we can pull money out of an atm and idk what. They were saying they had a surplus order and that their boss would just throw it away and all this crap. Man I cant believe i fell for this shit. They approached me in the 99 cent plaza by oside high school. Im there all the time if i find these guys again ima kick some fucking ass!
Michael Hoopes	San Jose, California
4/9/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen r-70 home theater system A couple of white guys in their mid-30s pulled up in front of my house in a blue SUV (Ford Escape, maybe?). The driver asked me if I was into home theater - I said yes, I worked as an engineer in that market for 15 yrs. He said he had some extra units that got shipped from China, and he couldn't ship them back. They had an MSRP of $3100, and a bunch of BS specifications: 2800 W, 400 W per channel (the amplifier probably weighs <10 lbs, no way!), "DTS 5.1 Presound III Decoder" (that codec doesn't exist). He said the brand was the "home" label of Bang and Olufsen. I said I'd never heard of it, and I had worked with B&O in the past (a previous employer designed and manufactured an OEM power accessory for them). I asked him why he wouldn't just sell it on Craigslist- he said he needed to catch a flight, or some such excuse that I barely could make out. I said, would you take $200; he conferred with his colleagues and agreed, asked me "are you a millionaire or something?" I said "F$&& no, you saw me wrenching on my 175K 2004 Ford Focus." As he brought the units out of the back of the vehicle, I quickly googled the model on my iphone...and the 4th link down was www.scamshield.com. I showed it to him, and politely declined, and he said "whatever" and left.
Calvin	Goleta, California
4/5/2013 Sold a rolkolsen to me. Asian guy and latino guy who was the driver. Driving a black toyoyta suv.
Carlos	Los Angeles, California
4/3/2013 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen 2 males one young around early 20s with spikey hair and a tattoo on his left arm & an older male around 30s looked white but spoke spanish in a RENTAL ford scammed me a rolkolsen theater system for $200. Thinking it was a deal I went online and noticed it was all a scam. It doesn't come with wires to connect, just crappy speakers. Look out they are in The Los Angeles Area in a grey ford suv.
K Stov	Buellton, California
3/29/2013 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 I am not from the town above but is where it occurred. They are a group of young males, asian and spanish-mexican origin (best description I could give). They will claim that they are shipping it to their boss (about 4-5 of the boxes, visible in the car) and they are overstocked and want money out of the extras (they will show a receipt to you for your "assurance"). I am keeping it for personal purposes, but be careful about these individuals. Again, asian and spanish-mexican origin driving a dark green or black honda or ford 4-door sedan, possibly with a spoiler and/or better rims than the stock rims.
A Robinson	Santa Rosa CA, California
3/27/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen r-10 Approached me in a Macdonalds parkinglot and said they had too many and the order was already paid for. MSRP for over $1200 US. Kept trying to get me to pull cash out of an atm. The scammer only $160 (to some thats alot) from me but I was curious what these speakers were about.. Only to find a google search only turned up scam reports. Only being worth about 30.00. I guess I can give them away as a gift. They were driving a newer blue ford escape. Had to share this.
Jeff	Chico, California
3/20/2013 Product or Service Involved: RolkOlsen R-20 Sigh.... at least I am not alone. Same story as everyone else. 2 tweekers in a black van saying they were installers and had excess inventory and needed to unload on the cheap... only thing cheap is the quality of the speakers and amp. It's actually kinda funny how chinchy the gauge is. Just mad at myself for falling for it when I knew better. Maybe I can sell it on Craigslist for what its actually worth bout $50 to reduce the loss and so I don't have to look at it anymore and remember what an idiot I can be at times.
Jonhboy	Canoga Park, California
3/20/2013 Product or Service Involved: Hermann Audio Made a stop to my bank as i was leaving a white male around his mid 30 accompanied by his partner also on his mid 30 told me if i was interested in a home theater set i told him no as i was driving this crazy ass runs to my window giving me this story on why he wants to sell it long story short cause he wouldnt leave me alone i ended up giving away $200 what made me believe him was this magazine he had with his merchandise and giving me a receipt i felt like such a dumbass when i got home and did m y research
That Guy	Oceanside California , California
3/18/2013 Product or Service Involved: Spectrum r232 Home theater Two Girls and a guy in a grey GMC Terrain, hit me up at a light. I paid 200 for the system because I wanted it for my home. Then I saw two guys at IHOP trying to sell the same system. They've hit California now too. Look out.
Can't Scam Me	Torrance, California
3/7/2013 Product or Service Involved: Vanderbach Two white boys in their mid 30's said they had some extra tv's they were going to use in a restaurant but that the owner didn't want them. So they just wanted to get rid of them at 90% discount for me. Right away I could tell they were trying to scam me especially since I had never heard of this brand. Even after I explained that I am knowledgable in home theater systems he persisted that it was too if the line stuff. But that all he wanted was $125 for the home theater sound system. I wanted to stay there and bs them but my wife said for me not to waste my time with them idiots cause we were in a hurry. They were in a late model dark gray compact SUV and were wearing black Vanderbach Tshirts. They really looked the part and I could see how one could get duped. The thought came across my mind to rob them for a setup, but those days are long gone. They will be the victim of their own karma.
pacgmark	None, California
3/1/2013 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen idiot me bought r-70a and r-70 speakers for $300 two guys in red ford suv wanted beer money and sam shit from other posters stupid me did it and it is a fraud and woulod like to cath them Kinkos Oceanside
Dustin Sheehan	venice, California
2/26/2013 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-40 2 dudes in a whit van sold me a rolkolsen sorround system, said their boss accidentally got extras looked it up online and it said $3099.00, wondering if this happened to anyone else and is the equipment fake? Does it not work, haven't got home to check it out yet, please let me know if this stuff is gonna work or is it completely bogus and don't work?
Kelly Green	Thousand Oaks, California
2/21/2013 Product or Service Involved: ICINEMAX IHD2 They made their way to Thousand Oaks. Same scam as described by everyone else. Out $400, plus $20 for beer. Ha! Got their license plate number and pictures. Beware Southern Cali!
Thomas	None, California
2/16/2013 It's great how you all think this is a scam....a scam you get nothing for your money...so it's not a scam you just don't get that good of a product...there by making this a hustle not a scam...respect the hustle bitches
dumbdumb	imperial beach, California
2/11/2013 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 5.1 Guys pulled up in a red ford explorer. Mexican -mixed guy did the talking while a white guy sat in the passenger seat. Pulled up at CVS parking lot. Yelled out. Hey you want a free surround sound? Guy claimed his boss from PLC Audio group called him and said there clients check bounced and to just sell off the merch because they had to pick up diffrent stuff. Said they were doing a 6k install at the "tilited kilt" in mission valley. Guy said u pick the price, I told him 200 bucks. Guy opend the box and said "look at this stuff man, its worth more then that. I told him I was leaving and he said "alright that's cool we need the gas money" He even loaded the crap up in the car. I sat down and gooled the brand.... I looked back up and they guy and his suv were gone. Glad I didn't get had like some of the others.. I have KLH system at home which is 10 years old. I used the speakers and they sound better but I read its not advised because of past issues. I was mad but I guess Karma needed to teach me a lesson. I didn't even look at the bs MSRP untill I got home 2700.00 yea.... lol
Sean	canyon country, California
2/9/2013 Product or Service Involved: Icinema i-hd2 home theater system Can't believe how stupid I was to get reeled into this scam by these thieves. Very pushy and convincing, story seemed buyable at the time but like the old saying goes, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". Can't remember the drivers name, parters name was "GREGO" Both white males, driver had a long, dark, dirty beard. Claims to be from Boston and has phone number from Massachusetts. Driving a new, dark beige, Ford Edge license plate: 6VHY240 Drivers phone number is (781)- 249- 0692 Company T-shirts: Newport Theater Design
Mohammad	San Diego, California
2/6/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-10 Home Theater I am obviously very stupid for buying this first, I thought I got a great deal when this guy showed me the MSRP, I had my phone and never once did it cross my mind to look up the the brand of the system. I only offered the white guy $200 because frankly I didn't want to buy it, I just wanted to let him leave me alone, but I somewhat just wanted to make a profit on it if I could, obviously wrong. I hope this doesn't happen ever again and if I am sold something I will make sure to call the cops and report the scam and try to hold the guy off till the cops get there.
Miguel Figeroa	Carmel Mountain - San Diego, California
2/5/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen r-10 HD 5.1 Ive identified who the scammers in the North County Area are. The ring leader is a guy named JACKSON POORTINGA. Taller, long hair, whiteboy, lookin like he's strung out on drugs. Drives a black SUV, could be rented, I'm not sure if he owns the car. His number is 1(760)803-3124. His ADRESS is 15872 RAINBIRD RD, RAMONA CA 92065. I do not condone any act of violence/harrasement against him ESPECIALLY anything illegal. However, everyone is entitled to try and get their money back. Write him a letter or something, maybe stop by and politely ask for your money back. If you look up his name you can get links to his Linked in, facebook, even sports stats from when he was in highschool with PICS of him. He even has a pic of him next to the speakers, so its definitley him. He hits up shopping centers in the north county area/east county areas. Email me at mfigeroa1@gmail.com if we can get enough people together we can probably form a pretty legit lawsuit against him. As hes a crackhead he wont be able to pay, so his credit will be ruined. Jackson if you reading this you should stop scamming and refund peoples money.
Tim	Vacaville, California
2/4/2013 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen R-10 I was driving into a Kohls parking lot when two guys in an suv called out to me. It the same story... White guy and a tan guy came up to me and gave me this stupid story of how they where in a hurry and wanted to off this extra speaker they had said it was worth $2,799.00. The phone number the guy gave me was 916-640-3601 the tan guy said his name was alex.
AJ	None, California
2/4/2013 I can Identify the two guys running this scam in Sacramento and Roseville. The main guy is ...Nathan Haynes and his cell is 916-412-8651 and he lives in Roseville ca. and has a FB page but never shows his face. His chubby side-kick is Jay Andover (i believe) ...no # on him but these two losers live together and are Oxy addicts and do this scam to support a KNARLEY pill-habit..I hope you catch them and put them in the pen and throw away the key.
Jason	Lakewood, California
2/3/2013 Product or Service Involved: Nexis L7 home theatre audio video SCAM Two guys in a lexus Black SUV. One of them latino another white. Asked for 500, stupid me paid 200. Got home opened box, subwoofer and 5 speakers in the box but NO connecting cables. Literally nothing to connect to anything. Looked internet, found it was a SCAM. Basically i paid 200 for big heavy speaker looking useless boxes. DO NOT BUY. I am not mad at them, I am mad at myself for being so dumb and buyng such a crap from the total strangers in a random parking lot.
Edgar	Bell gardens , California
2/1/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkosen R-10 I got scammed by these 2 guys in a ford truck, a white guy & a young Mexican mixed looking guy, both young, came up to me trying to sell me all this crap I fell for it bought the rolkosen r-10 only paid them 250, feel like a sucker.. I bought it about 2 weeks ago around the city of bell gardens ca. If any 1 knows any info plz email me
bob	san diego, California
1/24/2013 Product or Service Involved: alumen projector a 700 Costco Mission Valley, $350 for that staff, screen and projector. the guy was alone, he lives dangerously... I am like all the people here; mad at me for being stupid. But the guy is good as long as I don't see him around. His number 8566318930. His nickname Steve. You can find his picture on Google. PS: Because I think the guy we ll be looking here... Hey man you did it and got the money!! Congratulation! Now watch out!!! Make sure there is no way to find out where you operate or where you live!!! Peace.
suzy q	san diego, mission valley, California
1/23/2013 Product or Service Involved: lexington lx310 ahhaha, these boyz, the driver, a young good looking mexican & a white guy with dirty long blonde hair. both are young. in front of food for less, same old ass story, unfortunately I never got their license plate, but after i do more extensive research i will get them... and settle the score, hopefully they're not reading this, i paid 120 and havent installed them, but from day one, the mexican young tatted up dude has been shady, and we talked for a minute, and i always found their work to be shady. him n his friends r all shady. if u guys know these boys; all young, one mexican tatted up with green eyez, a white guy, and another dark haired looking mexican; brown eyes, hit me up in u know ny more info on these guys, suuu92123@yahoo.com
Chris Filliss	Sacramento, California
1/22/2013 Product or Service Involved: Kinetik KA 5.1 Another 'I don't know how much of a bad deal this was' post... I bought a Kinetik 5.1 in the Sacramento area. $430... Connected to my home hifi 5.1 reciever, and these speakers SOUND good. The subwoofer would be better if amplified, but still some good bass here. And the surround sound speakers are awesome. I would pay more than $500, if you talk well and get them down - even better of a deal. I'll buy again from these guys, they had an amplifier and a television; I just didn't have the money we needed.
Roger W.	Ramona, California
1/22/2013 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen I was at a shopping center when two guys in a black SUV pulled up asking if i wanted speakers. I said i would take a look and they showed me the Rolkolsen r10. I saw the price tag and it said $2,799.00. I fell for their scam and bought the speakers for $200.
John	Sacramento, California
1/8/2013 Product or Service Involved: Nexis Home Theater I bought my Nexis set in Sacramento. $550. I got one with a receiver/amplifier built in. I did get it connected to the following: Comcast Cable XBOX 360 iPhone/iPod Touch Television via HDMI cable Bluray DVD Player CD Player The subwoofer is the weak spot, but it IS powered.. I'd rate the bass at 5/10. The tweeters/surround sound speakers (x4) are the best part... I would actually rate them at 8/10... And I do know my speakers. The center channel is 7/10. The receiver/amplifier is 6/10... only because I feel that if it had more POWER, the speakers would sound better... Either way, next time I would try and keep the price DOWN more... Just tell them that I can't do more than $400... and try to push like I now know they were pushing on ME. I think if you get a pair (Any brand...) for $300-600 for a 5.1 speaker system, how the hell did we do BAD??! Really - I have two other systems. BOSE Acoustimass - $4900. Sounds GREAT, but... 5 thousand dollars. Panasonic WALMART brand 5.1 - $250... great price, but TERRIBLE everything else. My Nexis brand 5.1 is 10x better than this one. So, if you want QUALITY speakers without spending BIG BUCKS... get a white van set of speakers. I think the sales tactics are... well, sales tactics... I wish there was a store that just charged a flat price for THESE SYSTEMS... you know, $650 for the best ones... $500 for medium ones... $300-350 for the passive sets... and $1250 for the TVs... And I WOULD SHOP THERE! Good luck all, before you go bashing a deal that YOU BOUGHT. (lol.) Go connect them and keep an OPEN MIND. I did.. and am happy; I spend $500+ too. John
dirt	Roseville, California
1/5/2013 Product or Service Involved: Vanderbach /Rolkolsen Two white tweaker punks-silver jeep liberty. Same story-pulled out the magazine and all the stops. A lesson learned. Junk. Truly feel sorry for them.
EM	San Diego, California
1/2/2013 Product or Service Involved: Nexis white small suv Nevada license plate 211 YCU Scam occured 1/2/13 I was in my car, leaving from getting some food. White male in spy shades starts talking to me. Gave me a story. I should have known better. I am kicking myself for buying it. I have his license plate but dont know what to do with it.
Osama Bin Laden	San Diego, California
12/31/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington home theater speakers, got me for a hundred. I am pretty sure the driver was Wee Man from the jackass movies
AnonymousFresno	Fresno, California
12/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: acoustimax hd-70 Same story, two white guys, 30-40s in a tan chevy suv claims their "boss" ordered extra and they had 4 of them with them. tried to get 500 from me but i offered 180, they took the deal. little did i know i came home to look them up and came along the "white van speaker scams." kept trying to nag me for more money, fuck these guys. i know they drive around all day whre people have their hard earned money ( banks , check cashing , etc. ) and fucking scam people, i will never let this happen to me again, i can't believe this BS i feel so stupid. if something seems too good to be true, it FUCKING IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. but im going to leave this as a lesson to me, and everyone around me so i hope i spread the word so no one else gets scammed/
brandon	Oceanside, California
12/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington lx-310 same as the other guys who posted on here. i was at a gas station and some guy and his gf drive up asking hey dude, you wanna check out my sound system. and obviously i love sound systems so i was like ok ill just check it out and NOT buy it. well he came up to me, was friendly and all and he told me his boss shipped him two on accident and showed me the yellow receipt for it. he had a shirt on from some electronics store in long beach area. he seemed legit and showed me the system and asked how much i had so i can pay for it. i still wasnt buying it tho. theres the atm and i said i had $200. he gave me his name and even his phone number. i even called his number to see if it was the correct number, so it seemed even more legitimate. eventually giving in, i gave him $200 for it because it seemed legit as he gave me his own phone number. idk what to do with the system now. i pulled one speaker out and hooked it up to my current home theater system and the speaker does work. if you buy this, do not buy it for more than $50 because i am not sure how much it is even worth. nevertheless, they are still speakers with a sub, so im hoping that the whole system works..
Sorry Jim....	City of Angels, California
12/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Hey Jim it sucks for you that you bought crap, but it sounds like you needed the lesson. You wouldn't be on here whining if the product was legit and stolen. I doubt you are a cop but if you are one corrupt and stupid one. First of all you know nothing about audio, because anyone who does knows within 15 seconds that these are crap. Did you ask him if it had a receiver? Does it decode lossless audio such as Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master audio? How many HDMI inputs? These systems are basically large cheap stereos, and the powered units are 1990's tech with simple RCA outputs, and very limited functionality. You know nothing about audio tech and you saw the stupid MSRP on the box and thought you were getting over on someone. That being said very smart people are often fooled and blinded by greed. If someone is selling something on the street its either stolen or fake and if you are a cop bells and whistles should have went off. You thought it was hot. You didn't care that his boss or the company was getting screwed by their employee selling unaccounted merchandise off of the delivery truck but you bitch and moan when you were the one being ripped off. These guys won't get locked up either. At best they may be cited for selling with out a tax registration certificate (business license), tresspassing, and the like. While dishonest, their practices do not reach the threshold for fraud or theft by deception. They are selling a product that makes amazing claims on the box, but the seller did not make the product. If you could track them down and PROVE the amount you paid, it would at best be a civil case, and even if you win agree you going to garnish their wages to collect? Learn YOUR lesson by not trying to buy stolen merchandise and you will benefit greatly!
Jim	Fairfield, California
12/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen These punks cruise the Lowes lot looking for a sucker. BS line about dumping these home theater systems for the boss. They are Chinese trash. Can't cost ten bucks. Crack addicts looking for cash these human garbage bins. I can't imagine how really fucked up they are. Sad for them. They sold to a cop! I am already on it and they are in for a surprise. They really should not have done that.... Good job idiots. I know some guys that are looking for you now... Merry Christmas. Better hold on to that cash, you better have it when I arrive at the station to greet you.
Santa	None, California
12/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: Speakers You better watch out, u better go hide, ur gonna get scammed I'm telling u why! White van scam is coming to town! He checking the lots, he circling twice, he's gonna find someone to scam alright! White van scam is coming to town! He knows if ur a flee, he knows if ur a duck! He knows if u got scammed or not n he really don't give a fuck! So u better watch out, u better go hide, ur gonna get scammed I'm telling u why! White van scam is coming to town!!
Mike	San Diego, Mission Valley, California
12/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: Madrid 5.1 Theater Surround Sound Just wanted everyone to watch out for a Silver Scion XB and a guy named FRANK who is selling a Madrid 5.1 Theater Surround Sound. This is a big scam. Do not buy his system although he is a very skilled salesman who handles the convo well
Santa	None, California
12/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: Speakers Dashing through the snow in a scam van slash my sleigh! following these ducks straight to the bank hey hey! telling these maggots tales making my spirits bright! what fun it is to scam n sing while I count the bread at night! oh jingle bells making sales scamming everyday oh what fun it is to ride in a scam van slash my sleigh hey!!! Jersey status!!!!
John	Sacramento, California
12/10/2012 This suv, license plate #5ste310, drives up to me at the parking lot at my community college while I'm trying to get to my car. He tries to sell me this stereo system but I ask him if I can think about it. He keeps pushing the sale and tries to explain how he only has it for a limited time (blatant warning sign) and I tell him I'm not interested. He shows me his "company papers" and I could care less. I know how easy it is to print something out and I'm also paranoid as hell about that type of thing. He tries to put the box in my car but I snapped and knocked him out. I can not tell you how much I can't stand pushy people. Take a hint next time and you won't get put to sleep. I would've called the police otherwise but I think he learned his lesson. I think it isn't even illegal for them to pull these scams off but it definitely should be. I know I'm not the first to lash out so a lot of unnecessary violence could be avoided if they would just crack down on these lowlifes.
79 bux gone	San Diego, California
12/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington lx-310 Just left the Chase bank right next door to a BestBuys and these two Asian/Filipino guys in a reddish SUV pull up by me and ask if i want to buy home theater system. Same story as everyone else - they got an extra order, boss would not let them have it, MSRP on box and invoice say $2199. I said I only had 80 bucks on me and the guy asked if I could go to the ATM right there for cash. I said I just made a deposit and could not afford anything more than 80. So he said, "damn you got me". Thank god I just deposited $1200 in cash before they spotted me or else they might have duped me for more... Anyways I actually only had $79, so comparatively to others, I think I got away lucky. I even felt bad because these guys looked my age and said they were from the same area where I went to college (the guy said his girlfriend still goes there now).
Nathan	San Diego, California
12/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: I cinema 5.1 White guy in an older Honda 4 door pulls up to me as i'm loading my tools after work. Starts trying to sell me a wireless speaker system marked at over 2000 $ theguy would not take no for an answer said if he didn't sell it his boss would be pissed off. And he said he worked for some movie company and showed me . his fake badge. I told home there was no way I could buy but he would not leave finally I offered him $100. Got home and looked it up. And third site came up. even though I got it for $100 dollars this stuff is garbage. Just keep saying no don't waste your money. Too bad everyone finds this site after the fact.
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
dale	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer website needs to be taken down asap! people guying roland mixers have this popping up when they do there home work, must be some old website
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
marc	None, California
12/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland pro series mixer this website has been down for quite some time now, they need to take it down
Liz	San Diego, California
11/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington Sourround Sound system A white van approached me at a gas station. The driver asked if I wanted a free surround sound system which he got in error that morning when he made a pickup. He showed me the invoice and the box with the $2199 MSRP. He even offered to show me the contents to prove it wasn't a box of rocks. After I asked "You'll really give it to me for free", he then started to say "Well, you could give me some partying money." When I said I had no cash, he said there's probably an ATM nearby "I know I can get $500 out at a time." I thought wait a minute, first it's free and now he's talking about $500. Something isn't right. I finally said "No, thanks." Glad I did since I just found your site which confirms it was a scam.
Hal A Penio	None, California
11/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen Bob says that it's not a scam. Bob sells white van speakers and Bob is worried he will lose his "job"
Richard Clayton	napa, California
11/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkosen We were approached window to window in stopped traffic. Pulled over to a parking lot, where a shaved headed man who calls himself Chris Kelley begin the pitch with his "extra" rolkosen home audio systems....retail cost of 3100$, but due to some reason, he has them for 400$...KNEW it was too good to be true...but they got me....UGH! His partner remained in the WHite ford explorer, lic #6VZP303 he gives a phone # of 916-792-1555 for anyone who is not looking to get ripped off....BEWARE if it sounds TOO good to be true...IT IS!!
Charles Johnson-Trailer	San Bruno, California
11/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-8100 Surround Sound System White van with CA license 6WSY575 sold me a "Kinetic KA-8100 Surround Sound System" that I doubt is authentic. After making the purchase I reported them to the local police, but I'm not sure they got there in time. Hell, I don't even know if this site is legit?!
leo	San diego, California
11/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: Nexis L-7 I got scammed for $128 for a Nexis L-7 Speaker system on november 16 outside of active in mission valley, today while reading the news i came across this http://m.nbcsandiego.com/nbcsandiego/pm_107837/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=zrRcoxS9 , idk if they were selling the same speakers but seemed like the same scam .. Idk how to report it..
noria	None, California
11/7/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
noria	None, California
11/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: roland mixer a scam is that obama is a clone and got re elected.. i love my new roland mixer, no bad reviews at all
Roger Schwartz	Stockton, California
11/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olson r-70 I was approached by 2 gentleman.white guy in his late 30,s looked like he used to be a competitive bodybuilder or something-other guy was also white with bald head both very attractive and had to have played pro sports in past. Well other then that they said same thing about having extra equipment, I was skeptical and told them I wouldnt pay a dollar unless they hooked it up. To my surprise they obliged and they spent15 minutes hooking it up. It sounded really good actually quite abit better then my BOSE 6-1cubes I gave them $500 which I think was a great deal-to all you others go home and hook them up give it a try don't just take others word for it! I don't know what all the hype is-I'm enjoying my street purchase others should try to do the same and to the 2 guys who hooked me up thanks again-sorry it didn't work out in pro sports or modeling in reality these guys are the real victims- tons of talent. Roger
Marc Jensen	Long Beac, California
10/31/2012 Product or Service Involved: Madrid Audio V-6 Same story as everyone else. I was approached by two white men in a dark blue Ford Expedition at the Home Depot parking lot. I was shown fancy brochure, MSRP of 5.1 theater system, their ID tag for Sound Division, and they even scanned the barcode on their phone to show the MSRP. Got taken for $800. I should have known better since I had a gut feeling that something was wrong. Live and learn...
Mike	Orange, California
10/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: Madrid Theater, Nexis Audio, McLaren Technologies, Volare Video Latino guy, short and a smooth talker. His name is Eddie Chavez (562) 565-4999. Tried selling the brands listed above from his vehicle. After a quick search, found out all the products are made by TR Theater Research in Cypress, CA (714) 894-5888 that has been scamming consumers for years. Buyers beware.
Craig Ross	San Diego, California
10/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington Speakers I just bought those Lexington Speakers for 100 bucks. From those to guys the previous post was talking about. Hope they are worth it..lol
Bill	La Jolla, California
10/24/2012 A white guy and a chubby latino trying to sell speakers outside of a truck. Approached me twice, once at UCSD and another time at the CVS plaza right outside of campus.
Eric Anderson	Encinitas, California
10/23/2012 2 guys, white van, home theater systems for sale - Supposedly some German audio company. MSRP is $3999.00, but just today, for cash, they're willing to sell to you for $300. And if you turn that down, they'll sell it for less.
thomas brouchoud	San Diego, California
10/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: vanderbach surround sound system It comes in a printed box and all the info was there including the warranty. They wanted more but i said thats it , and i thought i got the deal of a lifetime. I looked to see if they had tools to coraberate the fact that they were working at a house down the street, and they had install tools. I gave them $300.00, but they wanted $500.00, and i was going to give it to a friend, but found out that they already bought a system.
Tim Roberts	None, California
10/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Home Theater System R-10 I was approched by a white guy in his mid twenties,at a gas station. He was driving a gray Chevy Tahoe. He saked in I would be interested in a Home Theater system. He said he was doing a job and the two systems he had in his truck had been put on his truck by mistake. He said he just wanted to get rid of them for the highest cash offer. He was asking for $500. I got him down to $200, he then asked me to make it $240 for beer money.
Erik Robles	Kings Beach, California
10/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: kinetic speakers ka8100 They were doing the same thing as everyone else and they got me. These guys were in Lake Tahoe California Heading down towards Sacramento.
August	Citrus Heights, California
10/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkelson R-10 speakers i just spent 600 dollars on this god damn suround sound that isnt even worth half that! they were in a red SUV outside of old auburn and antelope by the chase bank. 2 white guys with 2 more systems and some other equiptment. so what the hell do i do now? i just got ripped off for the first time in my life. who do i talk to, what course should i take, someone help.
Grant	Calabasas, California
10/10/2012 The stories are all similar: my son got nailed for 500.00 by these guys, I am pissed off!! If something is too good to be true, then it's a scam, never buy anything from the back of some guys suv or van, these sell on ebay for about 85-150.00 new If I ever figure out who these guys are I will have them arrested for sure, these are the parasites of our society.
mike	Los Angeles, California
10/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Nexis Audio L-7 I paid $600 for this system from 2 guys in a green Chevy Tahoe. They told me they had 2 systems extra "off the job". The story sounded fake but I thought it was HOT or there was a brick in the box. I had cash on me and he wanted $800 but I lied and said I only had 600. I then told him I heard about the brick in the box scam and I wanted to open it first. The guy doing all the talking agreed and opened it up. Everything checked out so I gave him the cash and went home and hooked it up and the system rocks! I hooked up to my 65" Samsung LED smart TV. I think these guys hit a big shipment of HOT goods. If you buy OPEN the box to make sure there isn't a brick in the box though.
Anne H	National City, California
10/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Nexis Same story as everyone else. No longer white van. Was a white ford escape. Total scam speakers filled with wet cardboard!! Two white dudes. One named PATRICK. Was about to go watch a movie in plaza bonita and was scammed in broad daylight in the parking lot!!
Arthur C.	San Diego, California
10/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Madrid Audio A white dude in a silver Nissan Cube asked me if i wanted to buy some speakers after i pulled up to my bank. I fell for it... i got home all excited to hook it up, but i thought it was so strange that i never heard of the brand. When i opened up the box, i saw everything there... it looked good. Then I saw the A/V reciever... piece of shit. It looked like it was made in the 1990's... terrible, i couldn't plug anything into it, and nothing made sense on it. These guys are working in San Diego now, and they're not using white vans anymore.
spiky	Roseville, California
9/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: vanderbach hrs-605 I have to admit, just like you guys I was dumb and brought that junk. I still owe them a beer though for that speakers. Only good thing I did was, I paid only 100$ and got their number plate on my cam. If any one wants to take any action, their details : Red truck (front is messed-up) no. plate 786 DIW (Kansas, (it also says JUN 12))
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i think this scam thing popped up cause ppl were selling stolen ones
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
Joe Heine	Santee, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: Madrid Audio 2 dudes in a black cadillac escalade pull up to me in a best buy parking lot trying to sell me a home theater system. I ask them if it's stolen, they tell me it's just overstock, and they don't want to have to bring it back to the factory or warehouse or whatever. Basically its extra. there is a 1395$ price tag on it. I'm immediately suspicious, but like to play along with these things. I tell them Ill give em 200$ for it and they were like super excited. I didn't buy it though as i new it was a scam. They pitched another guy. Then I got really scammed by best buy itself!! HAHAHAH what a world.
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
harry	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i just paid 2500 for this... i hope its not hot.. im kiddin, i actually don;t care, back of the van deals are always the best
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
joe	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 3000! i got a great deal
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
tony	None, California
9/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: madrid audio i paid 2400, no tax, i bought one on display at best buy
Josh	San Diego, California
9/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: Volare hd 6k , nexis L-7 Two guys in La Jolla Village Ralphs/Trader Joe's Mall at ~2pm. Can't believe I fell for it..got the projector, screen, surround speakers for 1k....wish I had a smart phone to look this up...said they were from Newport Audio or something..pulled up in a gray vw van. different but kinda similar story, delivery guy just dropped extra electronics off at their place, last time the boss just gave the extra to his wife so these two were just gonna sell and keep the money to themselves...a;ldkfj can't believe i didn't go with my gut instincts in how these two guys were scammers...
Guillermo	Anaheim , California
9/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington Acoustics LX 808, jonsson jo-2000w On the way back from a my wife's birthday dinner I stopped by a Bank of America and got approached by two white males, very young, and they asked me to roll down my window, at first I was cautious but then I thought they might need directions since Disney Land is just a few blocks away and a lot of tourists lose their way. So then one of the guys told me that they were on their way back to their both on the convention center and that the factory had shipped some extra stuff and that they did not wanted to come with extra merchandise or else they will be in trouble with their boss, so they wanted to offload them as quick as possible. Being curious by nature I accepted to see what they had and at first they show me this box with a home theater in it worth $3,599 my mouth started to water so then he said if I could pay 1000 for it, my replay was "No, I don't have that kind of cash" so after a lot of back and forth we settled for $200, I thought I scored something valuable but in the back of my head everything seem wrong, they were several flags that I ignored. Looking at the boxes I noticed that there were no barcodes only a IRQ code that once you scan it, it will direct you to a very legitimate looking website where you can see their product and the "MSRP Price" and some info as well as other highly proceed products, but nowhere else on the net you can find the product. Anyways I got nailed with the $200 for the home theater and I was stupid enough that I bought a receiver from them for $140. If you see them out there just walk away they look very legit they even had ID's on their necks, so beware. The MO is as many here describe, they are clean nice looking guys, they offer you high end products and they make some funny story about how they must get rid of it, they will ask you to buy them a beer next time you see them just for offering you such bargain, they carry some type of badge or ID on their necks, they usually work in teams of two and they drive around in descent looking cars. My lesson here if a brand you�re not familiar with or if you believe is too good to be truth, listen to your gut; most importantly don't buy anything off the street.
Trevor	Newport, California
9/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: Volare hd6k and nexis l7 Two white guy in a white SUV pull up in a BofA parking lot and scream at me asking if I want a HDTV. I said not really. You don't want a HDTV, cause we got 2 in the back. I ask how big? and here is the scam begin. He park the car and open up the trunk and give me the same run down as all the rest of this posts. Some bring that I never hard of with a price tags of over $6k for the projector. He said he just sold one for $1k to this Indian guy. I told them I am not interest in a projector TV. He didn't care too much what I said, keep trying to sell it to me. Later he ask me how much do you think this worth if you are going to buy it. I said maybe $500.. He automatically assume I will but it at $500 and took it to my car and open it up and show me. I am like I didn't say I want to buy it and he start to get upset at me saying I wasted his time and stuff. Now, that is where I got upset and tell them to get the shit out of my way. Of cause it didn't end without some name calling. Lucky I didn't fall for it I guess.
adam	None, California
9/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: volare hd6k projectors So my boyfriend was washing his car at a local self wash and I guess two white guys in a white chevy tahoe pulled up and offered him the bernelli projector. Apparently they had about 4 with them and claimed their dad owned a warehouse up in Orange County and he gave them extra product to sell for themselves. They said just the projector itself was worth $3500. He was willing to sell everything including the screen for $300. Luckily my boyfriend called me (I was at work) and told me about the offer. I said HELL NO! It sounded like a total scam! Later on my bf told me that when he told them no they were rude and said "I guess we know who wears the pants in the relationship." WTF? Apparently they were just pissed off because he didn't take it off their hands. EVERYONE BEWARE!
MsMontes	None, California
9/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolson s 10 it looks like this scammer are in San Jose now. I really dont know the whole story, only that my husband is still thinking he got a great deal. he didn"t tell me how much he paid, i believe to much for something you buy in the street. Well, let's learn our lesson and move on! let's face it, it's our own fault!
Sean	Huntington beach, California
9/22/2012 Product or Service Involved: Volate hd6k Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies I was pumping gas and a man approached me asking if I needed a home theater system. I was unsure what he wanted and he and his friend launched into a story about how they worked for the casinos and the store they picked the systems up for gave them too many so they could sell them for cheap. They said they could tell I liked nice things because of the car I drive. The one guy showed me a brochure and said they usually sold for about $1500 but he would sell them to me for $500. I would not normally do this, but the price seemed good plus they seemed so excited, not all slick and everything. So I went to the ATM at the gas station and it only allowed me to withdraw $300 so he took a check for the rest. I thought, it seemed like a scam but they seemed too obvious somehow to be scamming me. He gave me an order number but not the name of the place where he got the systems.
steve	Los Angeles, California
9/22/2012 Product or Service Involved: volare hd-6k and madrid I had two guys nicely dressed in a nice SUV outside Best Buys claiming to have gotten HDMI 1920 x 1080 3d optimized light engine with 72 inch 3d projector screen for $5000 and madrid HD sound systme for $2000 due to shipping error. They got an extra item shipped by the company by mistake. Wanted to sell me the stuff $1400 but they are in a rush because if the boss finds out they will not I told them I don't have the money. They came down to $1100 and I became a sucker for $1000 hard earned dollars. I came to buy a 42" TV and got suckered into a 72 inch 3d projector including sound system.
John	Anaheim, California
9/22/2012 Product or Service Involved: Volare hd6k grass valley ca.-phone number 916-710-3428 in black car with blonde female selling in supermarket parking lot claimed tv/speaker system was worth over $8000.00 and sold it for $1200.00 saying he got them free as an inventory error. did white van scam pitch to a tee.
john	canyon country, California
9/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: speakers In canyon country 2 guys about 5'10 about 200 pounds with a nice lifted ford said they had speakers they won in a raffle, thought ok that's how i won my rims. I was suspicious saw them and they looked legit. Had him call me so i had his # so i thought cool. Turns out i'm an idiot out $140. Karma is a bitch though.
Derek Barrett	Huntington Beach, California
9/18/2012 LOL I was out today where Huntington Beach and Fountain Valley meet, when these two guys (late 20s, early 30s) drove up in the parking lot in an SUV out of nowhere. I don't know if they were sitting there and then drove up or they just happened to pass by. So the driver rolls down his window with this cheeky grin and is like, "hey can you keep a secret?" I was like wtf is this but I asked him what he had. Kinda dumb on my part but sometimes random encounters are fun and these guys didn't appear to have any skills, although I gave them an A for effort. So he pulls into the parking lot and gets out and opens up the back and inside are a bunch of super HD projectors and studio quality amps, and what looked like a screen you could affix to the wall (to get a better image from the projectors). These are super high end boxes and the projectors run about $3,500, the amps around $4,000. So already I'm like oh wtf way to steal stuff guys but I play stupid like I don't know what time it is and hear them out to see where they are going with this. The guy shows me a packing slip he has with all the stuff on it while his boy waits up in the passenger seat. He was like "yeah I am showing you this so you don't think this is hot equipment." I was like "lol" inside but kept going with it. They start negotiating prices as if I was already going to buy it and then so then I asked them, "why do you guys want to sell this stuff so bad?" They made up some story about how their bosses had been at the company 30 years and so they were delivering it back to their bosses and "last time" their bosses told them they should have just sold it. As if this story made any sense. So then I was like thanks guys but I'm not interested. So then they started saying, "how much do you have to make this happen? I'm not a salesman or anything." I was lol again thanks but no thanks. This went on for about 5 minutes before I started to get uncomfortable. When I met the driver I immediatley thought he was on something and you could hear the desparation in these guys' voices. "How about 1,000, this is 8,000 worth of equipment." So then I said 3 times, "I don't want it" and started walking away. I did notice he had an ID badge on his neck, not sure if it was legit or what. So then the passenger gets out and is all "fuck it [other dude]." At this point I am getting ready to throw down cause this just took a weird turn but then he said, "just buy us a beer next time" and he literally takes one of the boxes and shoves it in my chest. So I took it and put it back in his suv and said, "LOOK I DONT WANT IT, LATER." And got something to eat. So great now my fingerprints are on one of the stupid boxes lol. Possible scenarios: 1) They stold it and wanted to unload it. 2) They work for an installation company and are skimming off the top 3) They wanted to jack me at an ATM or when I took out my wallet 4) They had GPS installed in one of the boxes and would come back around later (I had not heard of this until coworker told me today) 5) The boxes were empty and they would have made a quick buck. 6) The equipment was defective and these bozos were responsible for collecting it for replacement so wanted to sell it instead I used to work for a major studio and we had idiots lifting equipment all the time and then putting it on ebay. It got so bad they installed cameras everywhere to catch the thieves. (Who were caught). These guys are lucky I didn't file a police report. In retrospect I should have but was in a rush and freakin hungry. I think I look like a big mark today since the haircutting lady asked to sell me some overpriced shampoo crap. As soon as I sit down she says, "hey what kind of shampoo do you use?" I was like damn here we go again... LOL
Andrew W	Petaluma, California
9/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Here came along Alex and his buddy in a red suv, asking if i wanted some speakers. i wasnt interested at first but they got me once i saw there papers and legit looking packaging. they got almost 300 bucks off of me and my iPod :( They also gave me there company, NORCAL AUDIO, a warranty code, and a couple numbers- 916.640.3601 and 916.945.7036
Anon	Turlock, California
9/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen 5.1 Alex and his friend in a red SUV stopped me at gas station and got $140 out of me, they're still out there someone hurt them plz.
Eric	Sunnyvale, California
9/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: HD projector and sound system Two white guy in a white SUV pull up in a BofA parking lot and scream at me asking if I want a HDTV. I said not really. You don't want a HDTV, cause we got 2 in the back. I ask how big? and here is the scam begin. He park the car and open up the trunk and give me the same run down as all the rest of this posts. Some bring that I never hard of with a price tags of over $6k for the projector. He said he just sold one for $1k to this Indian guy. I told them I am not interest in a projector TV. He didn't care too much what I said, keep trying to sell it to me. Later he ask me how much do you think this worth if you are going to buy it. I said maybe $500.. He automatically assume I will but it at $500 and took it to my car and open it up and show me. I am like I didn't say I want to buy it and he start to get upset at me saying I wasted his time and stuff. Now, that is where I got upset and tell them to get the shit out of my way. Of cause it didn't end without some name calling. Lucky I didn't fall for it I guess.
Jose	Bakersfield, California
9/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolson I fell for the same thing. They tried to sell me the soround sound for 600$. I told them all I have is 100$, they didn't like that so I got in my car to drive away. The driver got out, ran to my car and said," it's okay, give me the hundred dollars, my buddy's just being greedy!" I fell for it then googled the speakers and found this website. I'm just glad I spent 100$ and not 600$. People like this need Jesus! Can't believe there's people out there that are so scandalous. May they rott in hell! God bless!!
alyssa wishman	Pacifica, California
8/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r10 Two goofy white guys pulled up in a safeway parking lot in a White Escalade completely tricked out. Nice rims, tint, plates from Arizona. Well dressed and smooth talkers. Offered a deal of a lifetime. $2800 home theater system for only $180. Bought it came home to set it up and googled it. turns out it was a complete scam these guys even have a fake webstie set up. They also gave out business cards which were actually motel 6 cards crossed out with a number to a touch audio place and the name Travis. As soon as the card was given they drove away quickly. WATCH OUT FOR THIS SHIT!!! it looks really legit! too good to be true is right.
STFO in LA	Los Angeles, California
8/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: All How funny is it when someone tries to buy what they think is hot goods off the street comes on here and whines about it. Ive sold thousands of sets over many years, and only ONE guy, yes ONE guy, has ever told me that the right thing to do is take the extra sets back to the wareouse because its the right thing to do. He was a goofy white guy driving an old yellow nova on la tierja blvd in westchester. I remember because its that rare. You all bitch and moan because you tried to do wrong trying to recieve stolen goods and it wasn't what you thougt. Your greed had you buy something you never heard of off the back of a van from someone who dont know cause you thought you were getting a steal you fucking jackass. The real bargain you got was a lesson. That is the actual product we sell. That lesson is if you do aytempt to do wrong you are not likely to not come out ahead in life, and never take people at face value. Verify. You spend 200 on crappy speakers when you are 20 and when you are 40 you are getting ready to spend $25k with a general contractor or when you are 50 you are getting ready to make an investment with your retirement savings, thats when this lesson pays off. It will teach you to not trust people but to verify. See we do the same thing as police as in reverse stings but our lesson is much cheaper. You get a cheap product that works. You dont get arrested for PC 496 a felony and have a criminal record for life and spend thousands on lawyers. So you are the criminals for buying something that you know doesnt belong to the seller rightfully. We do all this good work and lower the liquidity of real stolen goods. That in turn reduces crime and doesn't cost the taxpayer a dime. Learn your lesson! This is why the police dont care that you got "scammed" you fucking crook. STFO LA and OC!
LOL	Norther California, California
8/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: Home theaters and Projectors These dumb ass guys in a white Escalade trying to sell shit to innocent people and take there money. Truly two of the most pathetic guys I have ever seen. So lazy and and self important that they can't get a real job...... I almost feel bad for people like this, just one step above the idiots of the world attaining the worthy title of Douche Bag...... I hope someone gives them what the deserve
Joe Metzger	Salinas, California
8/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen 2 Guys Mid 20's in a White Escalade pushing some crappy electronics, regular scam, fake magazine and over priced nonsense. I took a look and checked it out, never heard of it so I looked it up......... first three sites said SCAM. told them to get lost
Paymybills	Norther Cailfornia, California
8/24/2012 You mean people are selling stuff from a manufacturer and making a profit NO!!!!!! You cant be serious! this is Madness! What kind of absurd strategy is this!....Oh wait its what people do daily....from best Buy to Nordstroms.... STFO! I love the post that said someone pushed you to the ground...lol hilarious. Buyers= Liars
Ssammed	Sacaramento, California
8/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: Jonsson Audio Light baby blue 2000 FORD EXPEDITION XLT 4D License plate #4LTJ700 I was working in the plaza on West El camino and Truxel when i pulled in the parking lot a guy drove up was like hey you want some speakers i was like OK ill look. usually i don't go for this, i had lap tops i pads offered but passed. But this guy seemed legit. Said i work for an audio company they ordered a system and got an extra one and if he doesn't sell it or get rid of it his boss will take it. he had a "work shirt" and everything papers sticker on the box. I went on eBay showed him that there's speakers just like yours for $150 hes like those are fake these are straight from Denmark the real thing. i told him listen man im moving getting a new house don't have money. So hes like how much can you give me so i said 400 he said come on man these are originally (msrp 2,499) so i was like ill just re sell them and got it. But i got his vin number and address. tried calling the cops they said only report when they are there other than that tough luck. I cant wait until they come up to me again. but this guy shook my hand was like ok ill give to you for 500 but you have to take me out for lunch next time we meet. So i just cant wait for that next time.
Reality	Los Angeles, California
8/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: All Britney Spears chewed gum sold for $14,000 Justin Timberlakes french toast sold for $3,152 Elvis Presleys hair sold for $115,000 Scarlett johanssons snot tissue paper $5,300. Brad Pitt and Angelinas breath in a bottle $530. I believe these outlandish pathetic purchases to be a scam, they should not be legal. A piece of gum for $14,000, does not sound correct. Someones breath for $530! That to me is a scam. A taco that costs less than 25 cents to make sells for $2 to $3 dollars. That's 1000% mark up. A bose surround sound system sells for $3,295, the cost to make at the manufacture $230. 1500% mark up. Every time you spend a dollar anywhere there is someone making money. There has been over one million surround sound systems sold on the streets of the United States. Various manufactures various salemen or saleswomen. We are real people, we are just like you, we have made great buys and bad buys in our life times. The average cost of a surround sound from a manufacturer is $60 to $160. The average price they were sold for is $300. The cost to do business= Vehicle, insurance, storage of the product, business permits, maintnence, gas, cost of product, work clothes, shoes. It adds up. To operate a wholesale warehouse where vendors pick up the product= Cost to design product, shipping, freight, lease of a building, employess, electric bill, insurance, advertising, phone bill, permits, taxes, etc..... This is a business like any other business, you have your good and bad, you have winners and losers. You have people with heart and people whom are heartless. Majority of the people in the industry are good hearted people who sell a product to feed their family. There are bad seeds in any and every industry. 80% of you who post on here are robots who follow suit. You read a negative post and are posting a negative post. IF properly connected I'm sure you would be more than happy with the product. I speak for a few manufacturers there are a few bad ones. Your system came from one of six different manufacturers, I know all of them personally and face to face. All are nice people, have families, mean well, have good hearts, run good companies. Some products were created for the FLEAS in this industry, as in any industry you have good and bad as I stated earlier. You have low lives in every phase of life, restaurant owners, car dealerships, chain stores, clothing stores, and street sales. The owner of this sight believes in the speaker industry, if done correctly the word he used was this business would FLOURISH! However with quite a few bad apples it ruins it for the good guys. Figure this out, with over 1,000,000 units sold and less then 10,000 posts on scamshield that's one percent. Do the other 99% not have the internet? Everyone has the internet these days, I have 43 ways to get on the internet inside my home. It means that there are 99% satisfied customers. Do not be the 1 % that complain about nothing unless you were promised something you didn't receive. Which some of you were, some were promised complete systems and only received speakers. You do have a right to be upset but do a recap of the sale, did you ask if it had a receiver? A good salesmen will sell you what he wants to sell you and will also be honest in answering questions. A good buyer will ask for what they want. We spend 1 to 24 hours a day selling, most of us love what we do, we love people, we love negociating, we were meant to do what we do. Please SCAMSHIELD can you put a section to where the satisfied customers can comment. I guarantee you will have a lot more views on your sight to make you more money. Peoples lives are being threatened, addresses being put on here, people are being harmed because of this site, both buyers and sellers. I guarantee without this website people would hook their systems up and enjoy them. I apologize for the scumbags that do rip people off, I wish death upon them, they give myself a bad name. Just know the next SPEAKERMAN that you try to take your aggression out on might be going through a rough time. We are humans just like you, simply say no if you're not interested or have really been scammed, be the bigger person, you or I don't want to end up on the news. Disgruntle speaker buyer got smoked on La Cienga because he was an asshole. Or street salesmen gets shot in the head selling home theater systems to feed his family. We don't need either or! Hook your system up, go buy a reciever if you bought one without one, you'll like them. I wrote this on a whim, I'm sure I'll read it later and there will be some things that will not make sense, at least you know this= We did'nt sell you a piece of some cracked out whores gum for Fourteen thousand dollars. Or some stank ass breath for $530. We sold you a working home theater or projector for a good price minus the big name. We could have got you a lot worse, or you the BUYER might own a company and get over on us. It goes both ways. I will put up contact info in a little bit so those of you that have problems with their systems can bring it to the manufacturer to get a new one. Your warranties are real, I will make sure of it. The last thing the manufacturers that make these systems want is their personal info out on this site. They will warranty a non working product or you will be able to meet the people that made the product. There's a big difference we sell it they make it. As I said theres 99% happy buyers but the 1% IS THE PERCENT I'M TRYING TO HELP. STFO TO THE MEN THAT SELL CORRECTLY AND MAKE HUGE, A BIG FUCK YOU TO THE LOSERS THAT LIE AND SCAM, KARMA SHALL STRIKE YOU SOON!
Z	None, California
8/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: paramax just like everybody else, cant say no to a great deal that sound just to good to be true!!! :(
Sara	Huntington Beach, California
8/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren 410 Two guys in about their twenties pulled up in gold suv in bank parking lot selling a Mclaren Surround Sound System. Had extra speakers, looking for extra money. One guy had dead kennedys tattoo on his leg (calf), bought speakers for what i thought was reallly cheap. spent a whole months wage on a piece of shit. hurrah!
Salim	Truckee, California
8/15/2012 Product or Service Involved: Volare Projector and Screen; Nexis speakers Some guy came up to my Dad when we were pumping gas and said he had extra home theater equipment. My Dad went over to check it out and I figured he would wave it off, as he never buys anything on a whim. To my surprise, he returns saying he is going to buy it for a steal at 1000 dollars. After reading the other accounts, I realize now that 1000 is a hugely inflated price. We stop at the bank as the guy follows us and before I know it, he has the equipment in the back of the truck. I thought the brand names and pictures looked cheap as hell, but the MSRP of the whole lot was almost 8000 dollars. He told me that they were extras after a job and I believed him, especially since he seemed to be a nice guy. Got home and did some research and here I am. Now I have to tell my Dad...
richard M	roseville, California
8/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-10 On my way to the back (Go Figure) and a man popped his head out the window and said he had a free speaker system in the back. So I followed him to park. We were on the corner of Douglas and Sunrise, he had said he was working with an audio store in Davis (where he was attending school). This audio store had ordered one rolkolsen and was delivered two at the frys across the street so the guy had 10 minutes (He Said) to either sell it or hide it in a bush. So being in college I told him I was poor and that I only had abpout a hundred dollars to my name, best of luck hiding it in a bush. He would not have any of that. He asked what the best I oculd do on it was, so I told him again 100... 150, and he said jokingly "I could sell you the wires for like $150... (If only it had wires) I told him sorry and started walking back to my car... Ignorning a good three calls out by him, as I turned on my che ran over and said alright deal but you gotta buy me lunch if you see me around sometime. So I drove him to the bank IN MY OWN CAR... (Talk about the worst decision of the whole encounter, thank goodness nothing happened to me.) Payed him $160 bucks and came home to check online and see that I had been suckered for the first time in my life... I guess everyone has to learn there lesson sometime, at least mine only cost me $160 bucks. Never buy anything out of a parking lot,
Myles White	Santa Clarita, California
8/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkensen r-10 speakers Two guys in a white truck sold my brother some rip-off rolkensen speakers in Santa Clarita, just outside of Los Angeles. They told him they had extra units in there last shipment, and were trying to get rid of them. sold them for $100.
mario g	santa ana, California
8/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: vanderbach I was parking in a LA fitness parking lot with my brother and friend when this white male showed up in a Nissan telling me he had a home system for sale had proof of sale also article was I a hurry saying he had to go with his boss was asking 400 I said no thanks and said what's the least fell for 160 regreting it after I got home no way to use this product
Timothy M	Signal Hill, California
8/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Same story just like everyone else, Two guys pretending there in trouble, came to me at costco showing me proof that this is legit, man im such a idiot, i let the hunger for money get to me and now im 325 dollars gone just like that. Note to self NEVER BUY ANYTHING THAT YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
Grey	Lodi/Stockton, California
8/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Vanderbauch Two gentleman, "Charley" & "Cameron" sold me the vanderbuach hrs-605 for $150. I have yet to see of this works, but reading online I'm regretting this choice.
tristan	redway, California
8/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: morelli hdx-44 projector and vanderbach audio hrs-605 speakers devon from Sacramento / grass valley ca.-phone number 916-710-3428 in black car with blonde female selling in supermarket parking lot claimed tv/speaker system was worth over $8000.00 and sold it for $1200.00 saying he got them free as an inventory error. did white van scam pitch to a tee.
Rad	Sherman Oaks, California
8/7/2012 Product or Service Involved: RolkOlsen R-10 Surround Sound System I was approached in the Gelsons back parking lot by a Asian male driving a White Toyota Rav4. The guy had short hair with large designer sunglasses. He was around 5'6-5'7 . He had a ton of arm tattoos and a few on his neck as well. He asked if I wanted some high quality Surround Sound speakers. I responded "NO" as I was trying to get some errands done. However he was very persistent in showing me the systems he had for sale. He knew what to say to at least catch your attention. However his appearance is what raised the red flags right off the bat. He had a story to explain on why he is selling this so called $2800 retailed unit for $500. Stated his boss paid him these units as a bonus. I've worked for quite a lot of businesses and never has my boss just given me a large item as a bonus. Ok, maybe one average price item may be reasonable but the guy stated he had 4-5 units. Do the math at this point. Your boss gave you 5 units at $2800 retail a pop. He stated he needed to unload them asap to head to Vegas. I stated I was not interested but he then asked me how much I had. We talked and he was willing to sell this so called $2800 unit for $180! Thats when I knew this is complete Bull Shit. I proceeded to tell him no thanks and he got irritated at the fact I wouldn't even buy it for $180. ROLK OLSEN R10 SCAM! * * * BEWARE SOCAL 818 PEOPLE OF THIS SCAM * * *
Anon	San Diego, California
8/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Nexis Audio System Went to the parking lot at Mission Valley Target when two guys in their white van asked if I wanted a projector. They showed it to me and tried selling it for like 4 or 500 because they needed to get rid of their extras because their boss would kill them for having extras. I said no because I didn't have that much money. As I was walking away, one of them got me to come back and showed me the audio system and said 200 would be fine for it. Thought it would be good for my apartment I was going to move into in a month and "1600 off the MSRP price," how good a deal could I have gotten? They followed me down the street to a bank, checking out the speakers, and doing everything in public to play it safe for me, I looked up this site and saw I was scammed. I checked the box again to see no cords nor any receiver or anything to connect it to. Dropped 200 dollars and these chill looking guys trying not to get in trouble with their boss. Nice nice. Will try to get it to work later and hopefully it will be workable at the least.
richard	chino hills, California
7/31/2012 Product or Service Involved: Jonsonn These two dudes git me up at a gas station,....I had them hook the stuff up to see the quality. Then it was cheap crap. I kicked them out my house. I only let them in front of the garage. They swore it was 5000.00 system. Im not that stupid. I was about call the police. Toyota 4 Runner Salmon or gold color. Call the police on these guys. They were selling projector t.v. also.
Alex	San Andreas, California
7/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen 5.1 speaker system Packaged really nice, all kinds of info on box, 2 guys with a hurry up story, catalog picture in hand with $2799 price tag there and on box. Checked online and the website is there with more products, an "About Us" which says nothing and a "contact us" which goes nowhere. Ebay has a 27 day listing, Best put together scam I remember seeing. Even has reviews listed randomly throughout google search. They said they were headed for Sonora in the next county over white van, white guys and $100 bucks richer. I'm gonna frame and mount my new junk on the wall as a reminder and a tribute to those scamming assholes may they RIP.
v naps	los angeles, California
7/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: lexington acoustic lx-310 i love technology. when this dude pulled up to me at the gas station and told me he had a shit load of stuff that his boss didn't know he had, i got big eyed for a second. there it was, just like everyone else stated. speakers, projectors, etc. i didn't really want any of the other shit except the speakers which is something i wanted to invest in before for my new led tv. he asked for 500. i said fuck no. then he asked how much i had. i told him the most i'd give him was 100. he even followed me to the atm and told me my tail light was out. i was excited at first. i didn't attempt to install it until a couple weeks later due to my busy schedule. the fucking speakers don't even work. NEVER EVER BUY SHIT OFF THE STREETS. i should've pepper sprayed his ass
Adrian Speed	Woodland Hills, California
7/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen hd 5.1 home theater r-10 So basically after work 2 bum ass dudes tried to sell me these things for like 400. hahaha I laughed like theres clearly something wrong with this you wouldn't sell it if not. I caught his bluff and didn't want it but he had 8 so I told him to open up 2 of them and show me all the parts. Everything seemed to be there. I told them they could have 100 bucks take it or leave it. End up getting home to see theres no plug and this is dumb. But ya same as all the other stories.
Paul	Santa clarita, California
7/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen two guys in a white volvo sold me rolk olsen 5.1 speakers for 400 bucks, at a gas station. Came home to find them selling for 250-350 on ebay, fee like an idiot. one of the guys did make the mistake of giving me his number though and i know its his cause he called my phone from his to confirm his number. 781-249-0692 - said his name was mark, hope someone catches these guys.
mike knowland	citrus heights, California
7/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 i was in the safeway parking lot pulled up to golden one credit union and had guy pop his head out his window while driving by. he asked if i wanted a surround sound system that he got for free. like a fool i was curious never hearing about this scam. he parked and popped out of his car. he was short and darkish skin. really scrawny. and a blonde guy in the passenger seat that never got out just kind of included himself in everything. (he was also the guy that rushed things along by saying things like "hey i called and said 5 minutes like 10 minutes ago" i didnt realize this until after that it was just another move in their game.) he was a real fast talker. i feel like such a sucker. i went back like 10 minutes later (i live really close) because i saw he had another in there too to see if he tried someone else. i was heated once i googled it im glad i couldnt find him because i probably would be sitting behind bars along with a few of my friends. anyways his info that he gave me. and showed me his california id. (i work at a gas station and it looked legit) his name was Alex Kassab cell number (916)six40-3six01 and his friend was Luke Anderson. they were delivery drivers at norcal audio. they showed me a little yellow reciept slip as some sort of proof and i bought it. (it had paid stamps and numbers and shit all over it!!!) license plate 6ugy900 if anyone knows anything about this little fuck email me at mrknowland@gmail.com
Matt	Santa Clarita, California
7/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Home Theater System Same story as everyone else. Got approached at a Bank of America and am now out $260. I feel so incredibly stupid.
Kris	Los Angeles, California
7/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: Volare projectors Same story as everyone. Two guys in a beat up van got me for 240$. I knew it to. I'm such an idiot
scammed in slo costco parking lot	San Luis Obispo, California
7/15/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren HT-81 Home Theater System Two young white guys approached me in a new while tahoe I was leaving Costco in San Luis Obispo. Back of the car was full of new (boxed) stereo equipment. Said they were installers from san diego @ a new sports bar. Job had been cancelled and equipment was paid for and they couldn't take it back. Boss had told them to unload it if they could, otherwise bring it back to him. Mclaren HT81 "supposedly wireless" home theater system retailed @ $3495. Digital projector system (didn't catch the name ) retailed for $4000 and projector screen for another $1000. Asked me if I could give them a couple grand for the complete system. I didn't want or need it as I already have a home sytem, plus only had $100 in my wallet. They said they could let the speakers go for $1000. I said it might be a great deal, but still only had $100. They asked if I could get some more money. I said maybe $200 out of my ATM. Dumb move as my bank was in the same parking lot. They said they would take $300. Followed me over to the ATM and asked if sice it was such a great deal, if I could maybe come up with another $100. I (dumb move) pulled out $300, and gave them my $100. They opened the box...all brand new equipment, told me to make sure I send in the warranty card "as a gift". I asked about the digital projector as my buddy was looking for one and to give me their phone #....they said can't do it as they would use my money to rent a mini stg unit and then sell it on ebay for $2000. Shoulda figured it out as they were in a big hurry. Anyway I bought a "non wireless" speaker system for $400.....and got scammed!!!
Prince	None, California
7/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: AcoustiMax HD-70 5.1 Home Theatre Surround Sound System 2200 Watt two guys came by a white van(truck) with AcoustiMax HD-70 5.1 Home Theatre Surround Sound System 2200 Watts HDMI , projectors etc. When I was at the bank, they stopped me to sell their product saying they are out on free delivery and they got one extra home theater system by mistake loaded by warehouse guys. I was asked to buy initially for $600. I said no to them. they didn't not leave me and finally they asked me to pay $150 as they wanted to go fast for delivery. It's a big scam. they are near san mateo, redwood city, san jose , fremont areas for selling their products still. I wrote down the liscens plate number 5dnv906. Bastards.!!!! I got ripped off!!! Please help me and punish those bastards severely.
Shy	Los Angeles, California
7/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Nexis Home Theatre System Two guys approached my son in the parking lot of Target on 120th & Crenshaw and I and showed us a speaker system that had a price tag of $1795, my instincts told me don't do it I honestly didn't have the $200, I didn't even try to talk them down, my son was begging me to get it so I fell for it, immediately I regretted my decision, I rushed home knowing I had been scammed, and I opened this "system" to find a bunch of no good speakers with no type of power source or connections, I feel so stupid if my people find them they are gomna get theirs so they better stay out of my area, ASSHOLES! My son even out $40 of his own money in, Karma is a bitch I hope they are caught soon, hopefully the next person googles it b4 they buy it, what a fool I was iPhone in hand aBbnd I didn't just google and my truck was blocking them I could have called the cops :-/
Wrong Guy	Concord, California
7/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: Vanderbachaudio HRS 805 Scamsters at work in Concord CA near Market St. (2 young white men) One blonde skater boy and dark haired with a Baseball cap. Driving a new Silver Dodge Nitro. License plate CA 6MRX746. Pulled up next to me on the street near Mike's Auto Body and said that they had some audio and 3D projectors that were off a job site. Was curious why they would be selling off a job site. But having worked in Construction, I have seen things fall off the trucks before. Anyway once I had looked at the goods I was not so sure. Came home and looked it up that is was a scam. So I'm happy I went with my gut.
UCSC Student	Santa Cruz, California
7/7/2012 Product or Service Involved: RolkOlsen R-10 I had two Latino males very dirty looking come up to me in Santa Cruz with a Grey van, and I gave them $140 dollars for RolkOlsen speakers. Their License Plate number was 4DDF756 or 4DDF765 but it was one of the two. I told them I was a student and was broke but ended up going to ATM. Hard lesson maybe they will get caught. One was skinny the other one was disgustingly fat both had hats that said SF Giants.
Mom	Martinez, California
7/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Home Theater System My sons friend was just approached at 7-11 by a guy in a grey SUV. He paid $200 for Rolksen Home Theater system. Sons friend said the guy who sold him the speakers showed him a yellow shipment receipt with the name Al Mitchell on it. Apparently Al Mitchell is the name of the guy who runs this scam. I'm just glad my sons friend is only out $200. Expensive lesson learned.
Nein Van der Bach	Ontario, California
7/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: "Vanderbach Audio" (HRS-805) Vanderbach Audio HRS-805 speakers. Scam. I was approached inside a Starbucks in Ontario, Califoria. This guy came up to our group (we're three young college kids studying for an exam) and said that he was trying to get rid of some high quality home theater speakers at a really good price. He brought us outside to his white van, where he had several boxes (about 20 or so) of Vanderbach HRS-805 speakers. He also had some "3D projectors" that he showed us. He said that he had just finished doing a home and garden show at the Pomona Fairplex and that the distributor did not want to pay the shipping cost to ship them back to Germany, so they were trying to liquidate them. The box had a label on the outside that said MSRP: $3,995 and it also said that they company was "#1 in Germany" and "#2 in Denmark." At first he tried to sell them to us for $350 each, the "whole sale cost" then he dropped it to $300, then once again to 2 for $300. He directed me to www.vanderbach.com which was a functioning website to check out the product. Luckily I also googled Vanderbach and found out about the "White Van Speaker Scam." No thanks buddy, I think I'll pass.
mercedes	compton , California
7/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: surround sound system i cant believe this! i knew i shouldnt have let my husband buy those. guy with a white truck called us over in front of a mall telling us about his speakers and his boss firing him if he found out he messed up and blah blah, speakers worth $1800, tried to sell them to us for $300 but my husband told him we only had 100 and he said he would take that. i should of said no anyways but it was my husbands b-day and he wanted them so i really couldnt say no. now i wish i did anyways. 100 bucks down the drain and the bass sounds like crap. the speakers sound fine though but man i got ripped off.
double d	san diego, California
6/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren technologies this mother fucker hollar at me and my friend coming out of Frys he had a fucked up truck the old school kind the metal type of trucks idk if it was a chevy or ford but it was all busted. it was this white guy drugged mother fucker that acted like the white boy from half baked the one the stupid one that says "yeaaaahhh maaan" lol well he said about he had extra speakers and he needed to sell them. he only had 25 min to get back he pressure im a good sells man so i said i dont have money he didnt even offer a price he said how much can u get he said the whole $1999.99 deal and showed me the mag with the image so anyways i said i only have $50 and my friend said the same. i told this dude hey i have a friend that has great chronic which was a joke... he believed it... so. this happen in frys off on aero drive so he followed us to the corner where bank of america is where the mc on the corner. so i tell my friend lets pull out only 40 each and say thats all we got lol... so ii went and he distracted him and then i did the same... we gave him the money.. he liked my watch it was black with diamonds it look very expensive so he said well give me your watch i told him its worth $200 which i only got it for 10 at the swap meet ja ja ja and a mma glasses which i got at factory 2 u for $4... me in my head said we fucked this dumb fuck but then wen we got home and opened it i saw that it needs a amp so i have one with my other surround system.. so i looked in the web and i saw all this scams about this product so i was like damn we got fucked... so its heavy because it has sand bags inside the speakers every one of them. i open all of them... i got them working but the bass suck and the speakers are ok... the speakers look like the ones u get at the swap meet... so he got $80 in total from me and friend... plus watched which was broker too and glasses... so people be careful the product sucks and dont get scam by this $1999.99 which is worth atleast $50 but i got lucky other ppl got scam for more. so i dont feel too bad... fuck it i have them connected i made it work lol
amy	El Cajon, California
6/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: Cinema i-HD90 l Two white guys coming out of their van at an Albertson's parking lot asked my brother if he would like to by a great speaker system, which they claim to be worth over 2,000 dollars.They ask him for $400 so he buys it after thinking it over.He brings it home and I look up the brand and realize that it's kind of a piece of crap.
kat	el segundo/manhattan beach, California
6/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren surround sound speakers
Dylan	Berkeley, California
6/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolk olsen Two guys in an SUV asked me if I wanted some speakers. It was move out day at the dorms so I thought they might be giving one away they didn't want any more. They had 4 speakers and sold me one for $300. They had an elaborate story about how the speakers were extras from a mistaken shipment and if they didn't sell them themselves their boss would just take them. I was convinced that they were stolen so I wouldn't buy it until one of them let me take a picture of his ID. His name is Ramon Rodriguez. He's 6 foot 6, with brown eyes and shoulder length brown hair. He weighs about 200lbs. He lives on Triana street in San Diego. The phone picture I took is blurry, but the address appears to be either 5566 or 5156. The image is hosted at http://s18.postimage.org/pihvgym61/photo_1.jpg
frank	bakersfield, California
6/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: a 700 lcd projector and r 10 rolkolsen home theater i was coming out of toys r us when a couple of men pulled up aside of me and asked if i was interested in a theater system i said no and they insisted i should take a look they was anxious to sell me them so i bought it and came home google the price and found out it was a scam got me for 600.00 fuknn bastards !!!!!!!!
Karma is a .......	Costa Mesa, California
6/19/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Newport Theater Design 1730 Pomona ave Unit #5 Costa Mesa CA 92627 Have you purchased any speaker systems or projectors from guys in a van claiming to have "extra" systems on a delivery claing to work for Newport Theater Design? I was approached by one of the salesman, and having heard about the scam before, made a little cash offer to one of the salesman for some info. I followed them back to make sure it checked out. I paid him more than he makes in a week for the info so you are welcome. The ringleader is apparenty a gruff, ugly, alcoholic with a boston accent named Al Mitchell. He has been setting up these speaker offices worldwide over the past 30 years. He has made millions over the past 30 years by deception. The guys who work at his company sell the systrms for whatever they can and must bring al mitchell 125 dollars per box. Al pays 50 per box from a local distributor. The guys are usually hard up for work and desperate. Many times he brings kids in from the east coast and pays their housing so they cant just go buy from the local distributor. Al Mitchell once shot one of his employees for cutting him out and has done time In prison. Come down to the office around 8am when they load the vans up or around 5pm when they return with speakers money and you might run into Al mitchell. Maybe he will give you your money back? Call the police and have them come down with you. He is not running a registered business and that is a misdemeanor.
josh g	lodi, California
6/15/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 2 males 1 white and 1 tanned, in grey suv. They said they had a couple of extras and they had to get rid of them. He wanted $500 but I told him $100 is all I can do hoping they'd leave me alone and good thing I didn't budge. They were very desperate. I wasn't interested so they got off and put it in my van. I thought wow, they must be really hurting for money so I gave them $140. Scumbags!!
Erik y	Sacramento, California
6/13/2012 Product or Service Involved: r�lkolsen r- 10 Some indian dude in a green, mid 90s Toyota 4runner pulled up I me in the best buy parking lot near Arden fair mall. He said he just finished delivering these speakers to best buy, which were for their audio system, not retail, and he had 2 left and said the company sent him 2 extras and his boss said just to keep it because his boss doesn't want to pay 3 grand to send them back to Denmark. He said he had to go pick up co workers in 15 minutes and if he had them with him they have higher seniority and they'd take them. I suggested he ask best buy to hold them and he said that would be awkward. He was dressed in casual clothes, flannel green button up, jeans, beard. He and his car smelled like curry and tried to sell some. I said no and he kept pushing when I said yes to 100 he offered to give me a ride to the ATM. At this point I said no, he pushe me to the ground, drove off. If I ever see him again shots going down.
Karen	Santa Ana, California
6/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclarence surround system Today me and my husband went to eat at taco bell by the Santa Ana college we saw two guys in a navy blue ford explorer but my husband says it was a mercury but it looks the same anyways they were talking to some guy and we were almost getting to the door when the guy started screaming out if we wanted to buy some speakers I ignored them but my husband didnt so I follows him and then like everyone else same bs story about theyre boss and that it's a good price we only paid 100 but We still feel stupid because we have no money left an the fact that they got us to buy into theyre lies and we both had a feeling something wasnt right but oh well i hope we see them again because i want my money back thats if we do get a refund
Mike Egan	Orangevale, California
6/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: Martin Ash These two guys pulled up to me in the parking lot of the 99 cent store, saying they worked for a delivery company or something. They were in a black SUV, possibly a Suburban or a Tahoe. They said that they had recieved an order of too many home sound systems and that they had to get rid of them or else their boss would just take them home. The skinny, older looking tattoed and tanned dude showed me the speakers and the price tag and suggested that I pay $500 for this $2300 sound system, when I said I didn't have it and started walking away the shorter blond guy in the driver's seat, who looked to be in his early twenties, jumped out and said " well, we don't wanna drive around all day, and we have to get back to our boss in 20 minutes, so I'll give it to ya for $160. I thought that was a good deal, and then he asked me for more cash for beer money "since he was giving me such a great deal. Like a sucker, I gave him 5 more bucks. When I googled the speaker brand the first thing that came up was the wikipedia page for "white van speaker scam" and I knew I'd been had. I seriously hate these guys, but I gotta say they were pretty convincing. The skinnier dude had a fake worksheet from what I'm guessing is a fake company.
Sandi	Sacramento (Natomas), California
6/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen Home Theater System Yeah SAME STORY here too!! Two guys in a gray SUV in the Safeway parkinglot off Del Paso Blvd. yelled out to me and my husband as we came out of Safeway said they worked for delivery company and got one extra rolkolsen surround sound system and wanted to off it before they got back so their boss didn't take it home for himself again!! Two guys on kinda heavy set other thin and name supposedly Alex. We really feel DUMB!! we are both unemployed and told them that!! Oh how about whatevers in your wallet and oh how much can you get from the ATM!! well we only paid $120 but when your unemployed that's alot!! I believe in Karma I am a Christian and what goes around DEFINETLY comes around!!!
Mark Perka	Yuba City, California
6/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLarren Cinema Same thing as everyone else except it was my son Randy who is only 16 yrs. Old. He described the gentlemen a tall and skinny with facial hair said he looked strung out. Claimed to work for Direct to U Audio apparently a real biz. Except goes straight to scam thread. I'm investigating the fact that was son is a minor and by law I don't believe he can embark on a transaction. He's under age and spent his money he was saving to buy a car. He said both gentlemen were very pushy and aggressive. They claimed it was wireless and amplified but actually neither it's just sub and some cheap satellite speakers. They misrepresented the entire transaction leaving my helpless son to fend for himself. They showed him paperwork with the Direct2 audio logos and such looked legit he said. I guess he learned a valuable lesson being what seems to good usually is. It's a tough world for kids nowadays the last thing they need is some scam artists preying on there vulnerability. I'm researching the company further and hopefully will receive a refund for him since he is a minor. These guys should be ashamed of themselves hopefully others will read and remember this to save them from being victimized like my confused minor son. NAMELESS MINOR
Lee	Santa Clarita, California
6/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Surround Sound Audio System Approached at my bank ATM. Same story that I'd never heard before but now know all too well. They delivered too many for this job, we are from Newport Beach (far) and need to get rid of these or our boss will certainly take them and short sell for himself. Knew something was wrong but didn't follow my instincts. Box had six speakers, no amp system. Speakers are wired, not wireless as he claimed. Small speakers are filled with sand to make the heavy. $200 is a fair price for a sound system, I thought, so I didn't think I was getting something for nothing. Knew straight off that this wasn't a $2000 system, as the wire and packaging were lower standard. Didn't realize how much lower!
Daniel	Santa Clara, California
6/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: RolkOlsen R-40 OMG Against my better judgement I walked over to the van that a man who called himself "Jeff" and claimed to work for a "big theater installation company" was selling two units out of the back of his van showed me the papers for the unit as well as a small brochure "verifying" the MSRP of $3099. I was an idiot and said yes, I felt like I was helping him out by buying it because he said there was no gas in his van. I also, accidentally over-paid him $100 and didn't realize it until it was too late. "Jeff" didn't say anything about receiving more money. He also insulted me by calling me "Job Security" meaning that stupid people with a lot of money secure his work. I'm so fucking pissed at myself for falling for his clever scheme. I'm about to have a baby you see, and I was hoping to re-sell the theater system for a profit on eBay or craigslist. I could have really used the money, and now I'm $600 out because I wanted to look out for my future child. I'm such an idiot, PLEASE DO NOT BE LIKE ME. SAY NO AND CALL THE POLICE. Be sure to get the guy's license plate number, vehicle description and the description of the seller. These guys were very experienced and knew how to convince people to get them to buy. Cheers, daniel Dan@Clixibit.com
Stupid Ass	Chico, California
6/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Home Entertsinment system It sounds like rerun. Different team. Still very good players. Not so lucky paid 450.
Spencer Young	Tarzana, California
6/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen R-10 2 males in a blue SUV approached me in a parking lot saying that they had an extra speaker system they were trying to get rid of. Me, who was looking for a new speaker system for my apt, thought this was just shear luck. I told the two that I didn't trust them and that I wanted to see proof of everything. I saw the receipt for the speakers, the drivers license, etc. After they convinced me that it wasn't a scam, I purchased the speakers for $260. I got home, looked up the product to see how good of a deal I actually got and it turns out the whole thing is a complete scam. The speakers aren't worth the $2800 like it says on the box. I haven't had a chance to actually connect these speakers so I'm not sure how ripped off I actually got. I did contact the police, the drivers license was fake and they officer told me that it's not a scam, just a business deal that I got the bad end of. Not sure how much there is for us to do at this point.
N L	Santa Clarita, California
5/31/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-10 I was confronted by these guys in a parking lot in Santa Clarita and they gave the same story about working for a home theater installer and getting an extra set of speakers and wanting to sell them. I was immediately suspicious but against my better judgement fell for it. I paid the guys $400 cash I then googled the system as soon as they left and found this thread... If only I had checked it out first. I took a picture of both their ID's and their supposed packing slip. The Speaker set was a Rolkolsen R-10 I uploaded the picture of their ID's here: http://uploading.com/files/87a63e69/Photo%2BMay%2B31%252C%2B3%2B32%2B34%2BPM.jpg/ I hope we can catch these guys!
Sam Bannek	Citrus Heights, California
5/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLarren Funny fell for same thing. Two guys in blue suv unfortunately I paid $325- good thing I followed them to 3617 Nottingham Ln. where it looks like there set up there. Saw 2 other SUVs Blueish Element & tan van. Didn't get his name but he's skinny redhead & dirty long hair 20ish. Both were slicker then eel shit. I,m gonna check address and get my hard earned monies back,man I feel pretty dumb thought it was my lucky day- too good to be true-learned my Lesson-fleabaggers!!!
DAVE	None, California
5/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen These guys need to be caught! fullish me!same scam 2 wite guys about 30 aprouched me at a gas station on Osgood in fremont CA.they were wearing hats and shirts retending to be installers they were clean cut,said if they take the systems back to the ware house the regular installers would get first crack at them, they were shiped to a job site and the co. sent to many on a large multi home install. they said they were out source workers they only made $13 per hrs and they would make some extra cash, they said I could call there boss it sounded lagget they started at $500, I had $220 on me they got it all.I didnt get ther lc# they were driving a white minni van w/tinted windows ,newer minni van they said it was a co van.they didnt was any time buggin out.I will make a pollice report.hope I run into them again.
Jim	Citrus Heights, California
5/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: Surround sound These guys got me out on greenback! I want my money back! The storage on douglas is no good. I went 2 days in a row at 6pm and also talked to the property managers... Nothin. Im gonna find these suckers if it kills me. I'll try the other locations listed on this site. If i turn anything up, i'll let everyone know.
Stephen Brophy	Studio City, California
5/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-40 There's no excuse for how I just let myself fall for this. I had my phone on me--if I'd just Googled the name brand this is the first site that would've come up. I was suckered by fast-talking and I really didn't want the thing. I even tried to call my wife to ask if it was cool, but she didn't answer. I know she would've said no. That's why she's the better half. Anyway, a gutpunch of a way to learn a lesson.
brett jordan	lynewood, California
5/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: mklarin mt-7 home theater Lynewood,Ca. White male, early 20's, clean cit in white Chevy trailblazer. He left as soon as I told him I was going to Google brand. Look out!
glen	citrus heights, California
5/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r10 Hey everyone iv found out where to locate these scammers they are working out of a storage unit on Sierra college an Douglas in Roseville. I dnt know the code but followed them ther after they gave my the whole run around. This all happen at 6pm so I'm thinking they were headed in for the day. I was pumping gas when I got approached by the 2 males in a black Tahoe one guy was fat an bald and look like a tweaker and the other had Brown hair with a mustache both in late 30s. My friend bought a set for 700 these guys have to go down. This is bs if u want to find them that's where u shud go
Jimmer Fong	Sacramento, California
5/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: Bose On May 14, 2012 approximately 4:45pm, I was approached male and female in a Silver 2002 Isuzu Rodeo. I was walking out of "Fry's Electronics". And here's how the whole story went. Silver Suv: "hey man! I got a great deal for you on 2800.00 surround sound set! I got it free, I'll hook you up" Me: "for free? in my head I thought he was going to give me it for me so I said "yeah, I'll look at it". Silver Suv: "yeah man, my wife ordered one for me for a gift, but the company sent us two, and we don't need one so I'll sell you one for 600.00 bucks" Me: "I don't have 600.00" Silver Suv: " what do you got?" Me: "like 100.00 bucks to spare" Silver Suv: "there is no way you can get atleast 400-500.00?" Me: "no I'm sorry" Silver Suv: "Alright then" Me: walked into my car, set belt on and the "Wife" came out and said I'll give it to you for 100.00" Me: I don't have it on me, I would have to go to a bank. Silver Suv: that's fine we will follow you. Me: im thinking to myself, EFF that! but I said no, it's alright I'm late for work. next time Silver Suv: there will be no next time, what do you have one you now? Me: I'm sorry and I drove off. Okay now, I thought to myself not only does this sound like a scam, but they went from 2800.00 down to 600.00 then to 100.00 and them to "whatever you got". I thought it sounded like a great deal, but then again it also sound like I would be purchasing a stolen good, and this can be a police project...so I ignored them, but I saw this article, it have me chills.
mr. mackelroy	LA, California
5/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 2 guys in a black suv approached me at a gas station right near lax. 1 white guy by the name of chris came up to me and asked me if I wanted home theater , at first I was like no , then he told me that he works for an audio company and get just got into for free from the warehouse , I didn't believe him but then he showed me some paperwork, so in my mind I thought it was legit , he told me it was worth about 3000 dollars and they show me the price tag but he was selling it cheap because if you showed up on his job in 15 minutes he would lose it , he told me 800 dollars , but I told him I can only get 4 from the atm and he agreed and I bought the system. when I got home I looked it up online and it said scam , I don't understand how its a scam, my speakers for my home theater have blown out so I hooked the rolkolsen up to my pioneer receiver and I think it sounds great. Please tell me how this is a scam. To my understanding they bought it for wholesale and I bought it for more than they paid. Isn't that what used car dealers do? granted, they did lie about they got it, but overall I am satisfied with my new home theater .
d	Vacaville, California
5/15/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olson r-10 and a-700 projector Walking in the Nut Tree parking lot when approached by 2 guys (indian guy with beard and white dude with a little facial hair in there late 20s or so). I got the "extra from the boss" bit. and i bought it. i didnt know, until now. i opened the projector and it actually seems legit (if someone knows more please let me know) it starts up and i tried the TV on it. I have not hooked up the speakers yet tho. i dont plan on it now that i am looking on here. I am embarrassed to say what i payed for everything. The offered 3 grand and i laughed. but still.
James	Redding, California
5/15/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren MT-7 HD Speaker set for house MY HUSBAND FELL FOR IT! This asshole in his late 20s maybe 30 showed up in Redding at wal-mart offered my husband this speaker system for our house that was listed for 1,999.00 on box for 60.00. my husband said sorry but i left my cash at home across town o but of course this dude had no problem coming to my home to get the money when my husband showed up with him i knew right away there was a problem i told him he couldn't come in the house and told my husband the stuff was probably stolen so i goggled it and found this page. the guy was around 5"10 thin white balding with some short black hair driving a tanish gray SUV LP # 71073 ( Blue ) from Oregon i hope someone gets this asshole! he even bummed a smoke from my husband and smoked it with him before leaving!
joe	livermore, California
5/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 My friend got fooled into buying this set up today he said he only payed 140 but think it was more, anyway he said he's doing this guys floors in San Ramon so he knows where this guy lives. Ill see if he wants to give up the info tomorrow and I will gladly post it so some of you can pay him a nice visit.
Alanna	Chula Vista, California
5/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli Projector HD 6K So my boyfriend was washing his car at a local self wash and I guess two white guys in a white chevy tahoe pulled up and offered him the bernelli projector. Apparently they had about 4 with them and claimed their dad owned a warehouse up in Orange County and he gave them extra product to sell for themselves. They said just the projector itself was worth $3500. He was willing to sell everything including the screen for $300. Luckily my boyfriend called me (I was at work) and told me about the offer. I said HELL NO! It sounded like a total scam! Later on my bf told me that when he told them no they were rude and said "I guess we know who wears the pants in the relationship." WTF? Apparently they were just pissed off because he didn't take it off their hands. EVERYONE BEWARE!
Alex	San Francisco, California
5/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen R-10 Same story as everyone else. Two guys in a Black Chevy Tahoe (license plate = 6TFY500) stopped me at a crosswalk in San Francisco. They gave me the same cookie cutter story about having extra A/V gear and needing to unload it quickly. I did a quick Google search and found this site, so thanks to everyone for posting their experiences. I'd like to think I wouldn't have bought something out of the back of a truck anyway, but who knows? Instead I called the cops and hopefully gave them a very hard time today.
karen	Hawthorne, California
5/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: Jonsson Home theatre system Two guys, drives up right as I was leaving the ATM. The passenger asked did I want to buy a home theater symstem. They claimed they were left overs from the home shopping network. After convincing me they were legitimate, (taking them out the box, etc) he asked for $500. I declined. He said you can get more cash from the atm. Again I declined. Then he asked how much can I afford. I made an offer of $120 I had just withdrew from ATm. He willingly accepts and walked the system to my car pretending to be a gentlemen and congratulates me on my daughters upcoming graduation that he over heard me talking about on the cell phone.
Jessica	Mira Loma, California
5/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: I cinema 5.1 My fiance is a truck driver and he was just at his loading site in Mira Loma, Ca when he was approached and asked to buy speakers for $500, He told them that he cant afford that and he can give them $170, which he did. He said the price on the box is $2,300 and called to ask if I would google it. Thats when I found this page about the same thing. These guys stated that where they were delivering too didnt need all these speakers and now they have to sell them, I already know we got scammed by this scum bags! They were driving a light colored SUV with 3 guys and the one selling the speakers is a white male, about 20 years old. BEWARE and DO NOT BUY THESE!!
f	Emeryville, California
5/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: ROLK OLSEN R 10 Two guys in a black chevy SUV. Sold me Rolkolsen R10 same scam said that it was an extra his boss had. White bald fat guy and a tall brown haired white guy with a stash. License plate 6tfy500. These fuckers are going down!
tim tapa dat assa	hathorne, California
5/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: sick ass speakers braaa pimp ass mofugga wearing some true religion jeans,BITCH ASS a gold blang chain, and armani eye glasses..sold 2 systems, totaling 4 boxes..to a lame ass geek for 600. NOT 300, IF YOURE GONNA BITCH ABOUT BEING OUTSMARTED LEGALLY, TELL THE TRUTH BOUT HOW MUCH YOU GOT DID IN FOR SUCKAAAA..BITCH ASS NIGGAZ OF THE WORLD WILL GET PUNKED AND FEED THE SAVAGES FOR A LONG TIME. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY EVERYONE.
Bryan Menchen	Chula Vista, California
5/7/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 Same story I paid 150.00 not sure whats inside the box, just happened in off palm avenue in imperial beach california by the Navy Federal bank. Bryan
Caveat emptor	Ontario, California
5/6/2012 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4260 I really appreciate that a site like scamshield is out there, and that it comes up first on my little smartphone screen! I don't remember too many of the important details if I wanted to make a police report, but I remember we were stopping at the car in the Ontario Mills outlet mall when this guy pulls up in a big white panel van, very clean inside and out, I was even impressed by the carpeting job haha Anyway, the guy's name is Rob, that's all I could see on the yellow ID card around his neck. White guy, age 50-55, short greying hair, small 5 o'clock shadow, 5'10" to 6'0", thin build, jeans and a button-up shirt. Now that I think about it, it wasn't even a photo ID badge he was wearing. The schpiel was mostly the same as the rest: he had more sound systems than ordered and he wanted to make a quick buck before getting back to his boss. This guy sounds like a higher-up, he was talking about how they received so many and he had other guys in the area unloading more of these. He kept talking about the specs, produced a very authentic-looking and recent (December 2011) catalog. He even told me about how he was keeping a set for himself and even demonstrated it for me right there in the van. Kinda fishy that he had his home theater set already working right out of this van. Luckily I work with broadcast equipment so even though he was quite convincing and the specs seem great at first glance, I know I've never seen Kinetic speakers in any studio. I've checked out Kinetic's website and it may seem real, but I didn't buy it. The kicker is, when I say the catalog looked very authentic, I mean the other speaker brands listed in the catalog ARE used in professional studios, and the Kinetics are the only brand I didn't recognize! I didn't buy this, I wasn't so much wondering about the quality of the actual speakers as I was about if they were even speakers in the box, but I spent enough time to get him down to $150 before I declined. I was on my phone trying to check these out and it brought me right here. This kind of scam is insane. Given the quality of the vehicle, the man's appearance and personality, the well-printed boxes of speakers in his car and a very authentic-looking catalog, a scam like this requires a lot of people and resources. I wasn't convinced because of my experience with actual broadcast equipment, it should have been obvious enough to not buy anything out of the back of a freaking van.
CLEE 714 S.T.F.O	Signal hill, California
5/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: The best mclarens in the world MT-7 Some asshole tried to take my trumpet...you stupid strumpet. Thank you again you dumb motherfuckers for filling my pockets with thousands of dollars to burn through every week... Your money most likely went towards the purchase of something extravagant that you will never have. Social Darwinism hard at work. And thank you scam shield for providing me with endless amounts of hilarious and sometimes, JUST PLAIN OUTRAGEOUS, material to pass my time.
david	north hills, California
5/4/2012 Same as others, I only paid 80... Only cause they wouldn't take a no after an hour... 2 white guys with tattoos and glasses, the whole boss story. Is there anything we can do?
david	north hills, California
5/4/2012 Same as others, I only paid 80... Only cause they wouldn't take a no after an hour... 2 white guys with tattoos and glasses, the whole boss story. Is there anything we can do?
Tou	Sacramento, California
5/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Loud Speakers ka-8100 I just bought this home theater system for $300. Got home and ask my bro to help install it. He told me he never heard of this brand. So I googled the brand name as well as visiting the website and found myself here. I felt ashamed after learning that I have been scammed. The guy seems to have some Mexican decent, around 25-35 years old, and drove a red mini-van. he said the same thing as most of these post, had just finished installing a system at another place and had to get to another place in ten minutes. The item is paid for and his boss wants a cut. It seemed to good to be true. Sigh should have trusted my instincts on this.
Mike	Arleta, California
5/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren T7 Same story as everyone else boss over ordered. The guy showed me his I.D it shows a Rancho Cucamonga adress his names Dwayne he has a tatto on his right arm that also says Dwayne supposibly his sons name he's a black male in a white van along with a white guy looked armenian to me in the city of Arleta at panda express on Nordhoff and Sepulveda he gave me his number but when u call it says the phone doesn't accept in coming calls (951) 591-2060. He followed me into a walgreens where I took out cash so its possible to maybe get a police report and catch him as he's on camera for a fact. I feel so stupid now if anyone wants to do anything it would probably be better if more than one person makes a police report together.
Julio	Encino, California
4/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT7 Two white males approached me in a Green van being friendly and giving the same story about their boss is going to sell them and make profit if they show up to work with them. They asked for 400 but they accepted $130. The speaker are actually not bad for 130. But none the less I'm going to make a police report so they can be stopped. 400 would of definitely not been worth it.
Crystal	None, California
4/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: Acoustimax 5.1 HD 70 Same story except it was a blue or black SUV and I live in Fresno, California. Same exact spill boss over ordered. Two white males in their 30' s in walmart parking lot. Looks like these guys r everywhere or there is different groups. They need to be stopped. They got me for $300
chris	roseville, California
4/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: matrix3dtv white male early 20s in a black chevy blazer with iowa plates at cevron station on vernon? same story as all you folks. Nothing about this HD projector works! Came with a cheesy screen. Stupid is as stupid does. He said his name was SETH at phone#(916) 742-0779 also worked for NORCAL AUDIO at 2333 Sunrise Blv. Rancho Cordova (916)945-7036 GOOGLE MAPS shows a Walgreens at that addre ss!
Jane	Riverside, California
4/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren mt7 2 Fucking Douchebags!! I wished I googled it before I bought it!! Just happened to me an hour ago. The males where white and hispanic who claims their names to be Derek and Mike! I got their plate # down and filed a report! I really don't care if I don't get my money back, but I don't want it to happen to anyone. Everyone make a report so we can bring these fuckers down! Their license plate was 4DIB672 White car
anonymous	Burbank, California
4/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren HT-81 Same as everyone else. $300 down the drain. 2 white guys in a black SUV. First time in my life I've ever been scammed like that. Pissed at myself for not recongizing how stupid this was.
Wendy	Alhambra, California
4/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren MT-7 Karl Hammer .. name of person who tried to scam us.
Mike	Hawthorne, California
4/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: Home Speakers I KNOW WHO IT IS!!...... Ok guys well yea this happened to me too (the whole white van thing) I ended up getting 6 boxes of speakers for $300 but yes they are shit. Anyways, I did end up taking a picture of the guys Drivers License. HERE is the info: License # b8859395 Tristan Haroy 8800 Sierra College BLVD APT 1818 Roseville, Ca 95661 DOB 11/18/1981 sex: male Height: 5'-11" Hair: Brown eyes: brown and yes the license plate is legit because it had the security feature. So if anyone would like to pay him a visit be my guest. ALSO if you need a picture of the DL i can send it to you. 714-235-0193
Carey	Fairfield, California
4/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R 10 Speakers I live in Fairfield, CA A skinny white guy (driver) and skinny some what chubby idian guy with light brown skin black hair drove up to me at the Fairfield mall and ask if I wanted to have speakers for free... I said free?! Sure! Then the indian guy went into the price and how they are worth like $2,800 and I bought them for $300, everything I had. I thought it would be a good investment to help me out. Rolk Olsen R-10 and they had a projector in the back of there car too. I hope to bump into them again.
04/21/2012	None, California
4/22/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren technologies This mother F*** white Ash with Tatoos stopped us ,told all the Mother Fu*** lies and made us buy this BS peice. I got it for 180, not worried about the money I paid, but for the reason I got cheated by this white tatooed bastard. These are cheap tricks. This happened in North hollywood,CA.
Jon	Orange, California
4/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: Lexington Acoustics LX-T20 SCAM RIP OFF So I got burned for $600 and wish I saw this site first. I walked out of a 7 11 and this guy in an icinema tshirt with am out of state license plate approached me for directions. He was driving a white truck dent in the right quarter panel. Told me this crap was worth thousands and I had to buy it on the spot cause he had to leave to see his installation partner - yeah right this LX-T20 is carap and doesnt even work right. the website has lots of bs products and looks so fake lexingtonacoustics.com He said it had an Ipod doc and the speakers were wireless. The Ipod dock is just a headphone jack not a dock - such BS! and there is no wireless function! If you see a guy selling This stuff stay away!!!
Bill Simmons	Sacramento , California
4/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: Martin Ash 698s I am so pissed off! My little brother just got scammed on a lunch break! They showed him some speakers ina car and told him they were very expensive with BS MSRP prioces and took him for $500! The MSRP says $2,299...seriously?! Definitely not worth the price. Hooked it up, and the quality is so bad - cheap garbage! Don't be fooled by the nice packaging. Beware of anyone who sells these products to you! SCAM!!!
pastor	durham, California
4/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: a700 i RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS UNIT... AND AFTER DOING SOME QUICK RESEARCH I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT I WAS SCAMMED AND PURCHASED A KNOCK OFF which there is alot of on kijiji, including dr. dre headphones, i phones.. ect.... UNTIL I PLUGGED IN THE UNIT AND MY FRIEND THAT INSTALLS THEM FOR A LIVING SET IT UP FOR ME PROPERLY. HE WAS QUITE AMAZED AT HOW I ONLY PAID $1750 FOR EVERYTHING. I GOT A 1080P 3D READY PROJECTOR WITH A 72" REMOTE SCREEN.. AN EXTRA BULB WHICH RUNS OVER $200 ON ANY PROJECTOR. CEILING MOUNT, GOLD PLATTED HDMI CABLES, A VGA CORD TO CONNECT MY COMPUTER FOR MY PRESENTATIONS. THIS UNIT ACTUALLY HAS SPEAKERS BUILT INTO IT AND I AM USING IT AT MY CHURCH. IT PROJECTS UP TO 200". I WAS ABOUT TO SPEND $2500 FOR A UNIT THAT ISN'T HALF AS GOOD AT BEST BUY. IT HAS A REMOTE THAT WORKS LIKE A REMOTE FOR ANY OTHER TV, AND ITS PORTABLE. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF NEGATIVE ACTIVITY ABOUT THIS PRODUCT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE BUY fake units IN THE STREETS INSTEAD OF IN THE STORES.. SO THEY HAVE NO REAL WARRANTY OR RECEIPT..
Jeremy	Sacramento, California
4/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olsen R-40 Pretty much same story as everyone else here, a Hispanic guy named Ramon called out to me at a red light and asked if i wanted some speakers. We pulled over at Safeway and he opened the trunk telling me that he delivers speakers and he got two extra that he's trying to give away. He told me that the last time it happened, he told the boss about it and that he laughed and took it home himself. Anyway, he said that it was worth $3000 and even opened the box up and showed me the receipt. He wanted 400 for it... i told him i was a poor college student and that i could maybe scrounge up 300. So i gave him 300 for it we stuck it in my car and he drove off. There was another guy in the car too, it was a white guy in his mid to late 20's. The speakers actually do work, but they sound like crap. I'm just gonna take this as a lesson and accept this as a loss. Watch out everybody dont let them get you too...
Kevin Vergara	Northridge, CA, California
4/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: McClaren HT-81 Just got scammed by two guys driving in a green 90's sedan at the parking lot of a shopping center with a Best Buy and 24 hour fitness at Nordhoff St by the Northridge Fashion Center. One looked latino and one looked white and both wearing sunglasses. Gave up 158 to them. Shouldve known better. FML
BS	Concord, California
4/13/2012 Product or Service Involved: speakers They ask me when they where driving and stop, at Fry's parking lot around 1:40 pm. And ask if I wanted a speaker. One was a White person and the other was a spanish person I think dark skin both has a facial hair. I forgot there names it happen so Fast. Some names that you guys described about the White Van are the same for the white person. I spend $180 for it and Its a piece of crap speaker, doesn't even have a power cable. I can tell the quality, just garbage. I didn't even look at the license plate, I was just not prepared for this scam....The price was suppose to be $2,495.00. I didn't realize how the box explain a lot of the scam. Make sure to see the brand as well. I don't even know the brand...... so stupid. All I can say is Lesson Learned and throw the speaker to the garbage and move on.
daniel velarde	Van Nuys , California
4/13/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren mt-7 Same story as everyone. White guy in his 30s pulls up with 7 in his White Nissan Armada saying he has an extra that he's selling for $500. I believe he has outline of stars tattooed on his arms
Joseph Willhelm	Burbank, California
4/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren HT-81 Same scenario, Two guys in a vehicle with the same similar story. The specs on the box for the home theatre system, I most certainly have to say are wrong. I do not believe this speaker system puts out the wattage described on the box. I honestly do not think they can handle the that kind of wattage either. I paid two hundred dollars for the speakers and I clearly thought I was going to make a few hundred on a resale to another person. Apparently not and this is what actually made me mad at first. Ok so as I am driving home I have my kid look up the speakers and learn of of all this scam crap that is going on. No I am very mad and I don't even know if these speakers work. Once I get home and set them up and realize that they do work, I am not so mad. I have only tried the mp3 port and tuner and it works so far so I can't really complain. I only paid 200 and I know that there are other speakers out there that are worse for the same price and I am sure there are a lot better for the same price also. The box is false advertising and IF YOU PAID MORE THAN 200 DOLLARS YOU HAVE GOT TAKEN. If you paid less i would think you got a decent deal. I am not affiliated with these scammers as I myself have got scammed by them but after listening to them and thinking about how much i paid I don't feel that bad. I am listening to them now through the mp3 port from my Mac laptop playing Mozart from you tube and it doesn't sound that bad. I don't know. Am I a dumb ass? Of course just as the rest of you. I think what pissed us off the most is the fact that we thought we were going to make a killing on the resale to find out they are not worth the suggested MSRP price. I don't know the item specs or condition for the rest of you but my system sounds good and was all in perfect working condition. I got scammed but I am not so upset for the price I paid.
John.. PAUL HUGHES LIES	Roseville, California
4/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT7 Same thing happened with me, they got me for $200. im looking to get into a class action lawsuit against paul hughes. Im looking for the guy who hired a lawyer and is building a case against this guy. If you see this, myself and another person would like to join in on your lawsuit. Contact me at joshthompson15@gmail.com
Mike	oroville, California
4/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen 5.1 surround Same story. Thing about the boss. White guy and maybe an indian in a white newer SUV. No amp. Just speaers. The wattage the speakers are rated at made it seem like it was worth the 230 I paid. I don't care if they are stolen. Do they sound good? Anyone hook them up? One person said they were loud.
Annonymous	Yuba City, California
4/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: McClaren Audio System Two men in a small grey SUV approached in a store parking lot offering to sell a McClaren surround sound system. Said the system was worth $1500 but he was going to get rid of it for $200. Said that his boss was just going to keep it since it was a extra that was delivered, and he was trying to make a quick buck off of it. Fortunately we read all the scam stuff online before we bought the system. Went back to confront the guys but they had burned rubber
Tim	Oroville, California
4/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolk olsen My dad bought some Rolkolsen r-10. they are absolutely crap. The satellites are weighted with concrete blocks, and have no tweeters(high range speaker). I have not checked the sub woofer yet but I expect the same thing. I doubt there is even a crossover in it as suggested in the little manual that comes in the box. Don't fall for this scam. These speakers are not worth your time or hard earned money!
clyde	HAWTHORNE, California
4/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: MCLEAREN MT-7 1998 TOYOTA 4RUNNER LICENSE PLATE # 5YWP720 2 WHITE MALE SHAVED HEAD PUNK BITCHES MID TO EARLY 30'S SAME STUPID STORIES AS THE REST IN A HOME DEPOT PARKING LOT THEN FOLLOWED ME TO THE BANK TO GET THEM 400 CASH NOW HERE IS THE NAME THAT CAME BACK TO THE PLATES RUSSELL TORGE ADDRESS 2416 SUNNINGDALE DR TUSTIN CA. DO WHAT YOU WILL WITH THE INFO FUCK THESE SCAMMERS KARMA IS A BITCH
Jerry	Santa clarita,, California
4/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mc Laren Mt-7 Was leaving the store and two white male approached me asking if I wanted to get a home system. They kept saying they had an extra one I denied it but they kept saying its a good deal to take it. The guy had tatoos down his arms. Now I ended up with a home sytem I can give my younger brother for his room.
Corey Turkson	Los Angeles, California
4/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclarn MT7 I was on my way to buy 2 stamps and mail some fucking letters ....they approached me in a midnight blue Chevy Blazer with pretty much the same exact huste/scam that everyone else has mentioned....I declined and declined te offer until finally after they absolutely would not take no for a answer I gave in because I have been wanting a home theatre system for quite some time.... Anyway eventually I ended up paying $100 for them I cant findany website showing the true value if they work and sound even remotely decent i will just eat the lost and take it as a learning experence. this happened about 20 minutes ago
Chris GotScrewed	Los Angeles, California
4/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Same story as everyone else here, I don't even want to take the speakers out of the trunk of my car as I pretty much know what to expect because the story is the same! While putting gas, mini van parks next to me and some white young guy gives me the pitch that he works for NewPort Beach audio or something and his boss sent him to get 5 speaker set and they gave him two extras and if he takes them back to his boss, he's simply going to keep them like he did with the other time they gave him 2 extra TV's. I gave him $120.00, he open the box in front of me and everything looks new and in what I assume, working conditions! What the hell did I just buy? Everything looks like it's going to work, maybe it's just a Japanese brand with Mclaren tags? This thing better work or I'm hunting this white boy tomorrow!!!!
Still using	Redding, California
4/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: Panamax ht81 I came across this over a year ago. The equipment is still working, and with a Comcast cable setup even... Nice enough for a TV/Nintendo Wii setup, they sound good and have lasted so far... I did pay $350, and that took some talking on my part. I don't know who, I don't really care-- I must be naive, because I am happy So far. About two years in, saved me money in the long run.
jeremy s	vacaville, California
4/2/2012 Product or Service Involved: r�lkolsen hd 5.1 home theater r-10 I was coming home from sacramento and I stopped in Vacaville because traffic was back up. When I was at a red light this 2 guys one.white one Indian pulled up next to me and said did I want a stereo system they'd gotten for free. I said yes because I thought he asked if I wanted it for free. So once we pulled over and he gave me the story about how they were selling the systems for their job and they'd gotten 2 extras on accident from the warehouses I said oh no thanks I can't afford to spend $800 for that. To make a long story short I bought it for $300 from them and and I planned on selling it for more because I need the money from being laid off work. I got home and did my research on it which I should've done on sight and its not worth anything its a rip off and a scam now I'm out $300 and can't get rid of it I don't want it at all this is a cold world I told them I didn't have a job or much money and they still sold it to me telling me to buy it then just sell it to make a profit and to someone whos been laid off that sounds like a good way to bring in some money...if you see these dudes turn them down. They said they are from placer county one is a short white guy and one is a chubby Indian guy they look like college boys and they drive a silver Ford escape California license plate #6rlz943 watch out for them
Bako-man	Bakersfield, California
4/2/2012 Product or Service Involved: Paramax HT-81 http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/ele/2934945797.html
Rachel	Inglewood, California
4/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Same story as the others me and my husband got approached by two white males in a green Chevy truck. They gave us the same story about having extra speakers after a job they had just done and they were trying to get rid of them before meeting with their boss ect, ect.... We gave in and bought one for $160. We were suspicious about it so when we got home we googled the namebrand and found this website and some YouTube videos stating it was a scam. At fist we were bummed about getting scammed but decided to try and see if they even worked since we had already paid for them. We searched for a cheap receiver to buy and try them out. To our surprise the speakers sound really good and are super loud :) not bad for $160. I will be posting a video of how they sound on Youtube shortly. Now please don't think I'm defending the actions of these scumbags I just though that at least I would try to make the best of it instead of letting this ruin my day.
Frances	Turlock, California
3/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: RolkOlsen 5.1 surround sound system My bf was on lunch at work and was approached by a guy. Same scenario as all the others. Claimed they only ordered two and received 6 and selling extras to screw with boss. Our surround sound just went out, so my bf automatically jumped on the opportunity. Went over to the corner gas station and pulled out $200 from my acct. Main guy was white, tall, thin, with a freckled complexion. Went over to the SUV parked next to my bf's truck and a second guy, darker skinned guy was inside on the passenger side. The white guy opened the speaker box to show my bf and took the cash. All I remember of the vehicle was it being a silver SUV with Oregon plates. As soon as they took the money, they booked it. Shortly after, I came across this website. I hope they catch the bastards!
adam	santa clarita/stevenson ranch, California
3/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren 2 dudes come up to me at the local staples in santa clarita and ask me if im interested in a set of high end speakers. i say let me see them and they show me. when i see the brand mclaren i knew instantly that this was a scam since i work in the home theather industry so for the hell of it i wanted to know if they would sell it to me for $50 just so i can mess around the the crappy speakers. they were driving a white nissan titan. claiming the same as everyone else about their boss sent an extra pair and they wanted to sell it to someone who can use them. however their windows were not tinted enough cause i could also see the other pair of MCLAREN speakers sitting in the back seat right behind them so these tools totally failed their job.
Loc	Pasadena, California
3/30/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren mt-7 WHITE MALES, PROFFESSIONAL, NISSAN SUV, PLATE STARTED WITH "HTYH*" i wnt to catch this guy, contact me at krayz818playa@yahoo.com Woww unbelievablly amazing how this all went down, if only i wasnt in such a "Rush" myself i would of looked up the speakers & did some quick research to find out exactly what it was.... anyways long story short these punk bit motha fu****n faggets were proffesional. white boys, one had a little tanner skin then the other, hade a sleeve or multiple tatoos on his arm & some gay ass circle or baby small skinny star under/beside his eye... drove a WHITE NISSAN SUV NEWISH MODEL, guy claims to be Greg First 4 letters of lisence plate were "htyh3"
Scott	LODI, California
3/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolk Olson R-10 5.1 Surround Sound System 2 White Guys in a White Ford Van, Square Shaped Body. 1 Guy has his Arms Tattooed, Fully Covered ARMs. Both Wearing Collar Shirts. Followed me from the Lowes in Lodi to Walmart across the Street.. Pulled up Next to Me and Said to come and Check out a Stereo System that they had. They said that they were going to Install 2 Stereo Systems in Sacramento, And their Boss gave them 3 By Accident.. They were in a Hurry to go to Work, which they said they had to arrive to the Next Job within the Next Hour.. I was Debating, BUT I Took the RISK.. And went to the Bank and Pulled out $500 for the 5.1 Speaker System and Receiver. I thought about it, Over and Over in my Head and as Soon as I got Home I Went and Checked out the ONLINE Website.. Which looked like a Total SCAM.. Then I Found this Website! And Was Totally PISSED OFF. IM On the Look Out for these 2 Scammer/Tweekers! Heres the Info they Gave ME: Norcal Audio INC. Vernon Schock 916 640 3601 They are going to all the Major Stores, Looking for People who Seem to Have Money.. IM On the Look Out for these Scammers, If I Ever RUN Into you 2 Again, You will be Seeing the END of my Barrel... I DOnt Play Games.. You got me Once, You wont live to get me another TIME.. Lodi Stay SAFE! Tweekers and Scammers Stay OUT! Lodi Police will be Notified and Multiple Lodi Citizens will be on the Look Out for this White Van Scam!
John	Elk Grove, California
3/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r-10 Same as everyone else. Two guys driving a dark colored Chevy Blazer with Utah plates. Said they had extra speakers left over from a job. Can't believe I was stupid enough to fall for this. It amazes me how shallow people can be. Even after I told them I had three kids and really didn't have the extra money, they still scammed me. I hope they get theirs in the end.
jeff the dumbass	sherman oaks, California
3/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Ht-81 "Home theater". 2 dudes approached me in prkng lot of whole foods. It was my own fault as i was hungry and not thinking. This sounded too good to be true and i figured it was and low and behold im a MORON. $250 hard earned bucks gone. I havent actually tried to hook this crap up yet cause i'm mortified to let my wife know how dumb i was. Ugh. I plugged in the amp and it seems to be functional-- have no idea if it truly works but the lights go on at least. I opened the speakers themslves w. a screwdriver and these are cheapy garbage. ugh. must move forward and learn this lesson......
nodge	Irvine, California
3/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT 512, Bernelli HD 6K Two white guys in their late 20s or early 30s, riding an old White Ford Explorer SUV who have company ID tags and sells Mclaren MT 512 digital home theater and Bernelli Multimedia HD. I asked where they got it and told me that there was an erroneous delivery. I bought it and was was victimized. It happened March 26, at 3:30 pm in Irvine Ca. Not until I got home and open my computer that I realize that It was a scam and I'm one of the hundreds victimized.
John	Roseville, California
3/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: Home audio Liking my purchase youre full of shit and most likely one of those speaker guys... Probably paul, you sound just like him. By the way the mclaren mt7 costs $50 from china you piece of shit. Im either taking you to court or having you arrested, one of the two. Im not letting this go until you get what you deserve.
unfortunate believer	Ontario, California
3/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: Speakers Rob Morrison, in a white 350E Ford van, an older pepper gray hair with a baseball cap on tried to sell me speakers but this other guy came up that had bought from this Rob Morrison before and started getting all upset because the speakers this guy had sold him were shit and when he tried to use the warranty, it didn't do him any good. Morrison lives in Rancho cucamonga from what this guy says. You can google his houae where he works out of according to this guy. I did't' buy!
Mark	Encinitas, California
3/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli Projector On my way driving to my gas station when i was stopped by a very excited faggot saying he had an extra 3D TV he would give to me, i pull over and isten to his bullshit, he shows me all the papers and recipts saying he was driving his bosses car to drop off an order for a home theater system and the warehouse doubled everything in their order, he tells me there trying to sell it for some beer money and before there boss knows they have them, me the idiot gives them 500 and when i get home i see the sham website and claims and wanted to punch the wall. These guys were in a silver dodge SUV with plates starting with 09 if that helps... lol fuck these guys
Josh thompson	Auburn, California
3/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT7 Two guys in a blue chevy SUV approach me and say theyre on a delivery and were given two extra $2000 sound systems... expensive mistake. Anyways the guy said his name is Paul Hughes and that he works for Direct 2 u audio in Roseville, CA. ANYONE who has their address, phone number, or any information on them please email me at joshthompson15@gmail.com i GUARANTEE we will get our money back. PAUL if you see this be very scared
Paul Hughes Lies	Roseville, California
3/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren PAUL HUGHES LIVES AT 414 Verbana Ct. Roseville, Ca 95747. The posting saying it was a bad address was a lie. If it was a woman at the address, it was his wife AMBER. His phone number is (512)636-1003. He is the boss of Direct2u audio.
Liking my purchase.	Sacramento, California
3/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: Theater Research We're happy with our purchase, $350 (And a case of beer) for a decent 5.1 system. The only drawback was that it didn't have an amplifier... but I knew that and my Kenwood from early 2000s works great with it. I feel that for the little money I paid, this was a good buy. Why do you all think it was terrible, just because of the posts here? I'd at least hook the system up. If you got an m-7, any halfway decent receiver will push the 5.1 pretty good. You can write me @ jobecker@gmail.com to talk about my sale??
Dre	Loas angeles/Lax, California
3/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Home Theater System Same story near lax two white guys in a black 97 ford explorer those mutha****** got me to. soooo.... damn pissed the money I was on my way to go make, I lost to those two bitches. got me for $150.00 Pepole DON'T BUY SHIT OFF THE STREETS!
Jonathon	Marysville, California
3/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: McCarren 5.1 In Sacramento, $500 bux & none of the damn addresses listed here were right. The house in roseville was some woman, not Paul. The granite bay one was a roofing company. I wish the Roseville addresses were updated. The mccarran 5.1 sounds ok-good, I just wish I could chat with the big black guy that sold me. I just want $100 back. :)
John Doe	North Hollywood, California
3/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 hd sound Same story as all of you two white guys in a green chevy silverado earlier model. All i have to say it be a man an come talk to me. All i want is to talk, if you dont wanna give my money back I wont talk o ya any more. Give me a call 734-231-1718 I really hope you get a chance to read this an reply to me. If not Ya'll some fuck boys not men face me like a man. Karmas a dirty bitch.
Nick	Natomas, California
3/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: H3D optic 50" flat screen tv White boy named Doug in small white suv believe it was Ford Escape approached me at Wells Fargo off West El Camino and Truxel and said his (fraudulent) company worldwide audio off sunrise blvd. ordered 1 too many tvs so he needed to sell this one b4 he got back to work. Turned out to be a fake tv in box. His phone #(916) 821-2694. After doing some research his name is Doug Wright and it's a metro PCS #. If anyone knows his whereabouts, I'd like to know!
Victor	Los Angeles SLauson&Western, California
3/19/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLAREN So im driving back to my pad after I got done working and I'm rolling down slauson minding my own shit and this blond white boy kinda tall with glasses kinda big with one of them vendetta mustaches tats leans out the window saying he got a home theater free from dude at the warehouse. Said his name was chris. there was some other brownhair whiteboy with a cheesy smile driving a white suv. This motherfucker had huevos to pull me over in the hood I gotta give him credit. He jumped out all in a rush and shit saying he had to go to his office this that and that and he'd hook me up cheep because he was on gps and splitting with workers. Anyways these motherfuckers came with catalogs and reseets the whole shit. I was gonna flip it anyways i only bought it for 160 says its worth 2499 .after they were trying to get my glasses and whatever shit was in my ride. the big whiteboy with moustache got kinda pushy but i was like nah. So they get back into some white suv piece of shit and roll out. I thought it had to be 2 good to be true but he even opened it was legit. come to find out this shit is fake these motherfuckers better not get caught slippin. cause im gonna shove this shit up his whitepower ass.
valleygirl	Valencia, California
3/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: McClaren Tech MT-7 So my boyfriend is a nice guy... fell for these jerkoffs scam... so now we have $200 speakers and were wondering if there is a way to make them work at all so that it is not a complete bust.... suggestions? 6 speakers.. no cords. They were around the 5 freeway in Valencia. Same script. Had a good deal, didn't want their boss to profit, followed us to a ATM. Said they just wanted food money. Even said they were Christian....
Mo	San Diego, California
3/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Audio Just wana give them props ive been a salesman for years now and these guys are buy far better than me... hats go off to u guys... now if only u didnt scam me lol
adrian	north hollywood, California
3/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren ht-81 same story as everybody else, two white guys in a toyota camry 90's model. should've got the plates fucken speakers had a stone in it. hope i dont cath them slippin
Jay	Fresno, California
3/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren HT-81 Had 2 Guys roll up to me by the 7-11 on Blackstone & Ashlan at lunch time. same installation story as everyone else. they were driving a gray Chevy Tahoe or suburban. I said i would get the money from the ATM inside 7-11 then Googled the brand and this site popped up. I didn't want to spook them so said i had insufficient funds and thanked them. called Fresno P.D. and reported a possible theft scam and I.D. the 2 white guy's When I left the lot they were pitching their B.S to some construction workers... about 1/2 block away I saw 2 squad cars rolling fast into 7-11. I hope they busted those bitches. I almost fell for it, but in the end it sounded too good to be true.... so it usually is.
Mason	Granite Bay, California
3/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: HD 5.1 Home Theater Two men drove up to me in a parking lot on the corner of Santa Clara Drive and Douglas Avenue. They said their names were Devon (White and skinny) and Evit (African American and Large). They said they had an order of 2 speakers, but they were given 3. If they were to return with the speakers, their boss would have taken it for himself. They had a catalog with the speakers listed and the price of the speaker on the box was at 2799.99. I ended up paying $260. I immediately got home. I called the police first to make sure it was not stolen. I then did a web search and found this site. I did however get the following information Blue Chevrolet SUV Plate number: 5VZE361
mike	Chico, California
3/2/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-10 HD 5.1 Home Theater Two guys. 1 White 6' Clean looking. Looked like a college student.1 Hispanic 5"6' Driving a 2012 White Jeep Lic# 6NEB393. They can up to me in a Credit Union parking lot. Said they did a job and there was a double order shipped to the job site and their boss would be pissed if they came back with the product.I called the PD and reported them. I did get the speakers for $100. I will put an amp to them to see if they work.
Joey	Oakdale , California
2/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic ka-5100 3 guys in a white Honda pilot at rite-aid!!! The same story there at work they got to miney ship to them they where asking $500 I gave them $140 DON'T DO IT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE!!!!
John	Lynwood/Southgate, California
2/29/2012 Product or Service Involved: kinetic 2 clean cut looking white guys pull up on what seems to be a work van, they say they have some surround sound systems for sale, they have kinetic company looking tshirts and a catalog with pricing, they are supposedly selling some surround sounds systems with msrp over $3000, then they mention someone offered them $600 from a check and how they Canr trust a check, and they start the bidding at $300 cash, I looked into there can looked at what they had and thought to myself, I never heads of fhia brand for one, ( I'm big with music/ speakers myself) and second if these guys were selling these products stolen from there jobs, they would not be wearing company shirts because it wouod just take one phone call to get them forest and finally stolen or not, street value at most will drop in half, there is no way these guys are going to sell a product stolen or not at 10% of its retail value!
yamil	moreno valley, California
2/28/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren MT-7 ok sooo FTL i ran into two white guys in a pick-up truck think it was green at a gas station here in moreno valley sold me the home speaker system for 100$ i havent even tried it out yet but once i got home i looked the system up and well u all know the rest they gave me same story wanted $300 i told em i could only give em 100 i never do this crap i dont know why i fell for it.. gonna see if this crap at least works
mariparra	Tracy, California
2/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclauren MT-7 Same 2 white crakers scamed my husband lmao but we both didnt let it get to us we just started craking up cuz we gotta sa these dudes r sum pro.s at what they do we just lost 140$ buut thats nothing to us some day they will end up in jail and pay for everyones loss lol.. AND IF THE WHITE FOOLS HAPPEN TO SEE MY POST HOW MUCH DID THE SAND U PUT IN THE SPEAKERS COST?? LMFAO..
reality my a$$	Corona , California
2/22/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren mt-7 surround sound system to the person "REALITY" alleging this is no scam. Your full of s*#t and probubly part of the scam. I was approched by 2 males in a white truck today alleging to have recieved extra speakers and a projector in a contracted job and wanted to get rid of it before the boss finds out. If this is no scam then why is every story the same (scripted)no matter what state this occurs in. Second... if this is not a scam then why is there a "warrenty letter" in the box. I bet you try to return this for warrenty and you never see it or your money again. A warrenty "a assurance by one party to the other party that specific facts or conditions are true or will happen; the other party is permitted to rely on that assurance and seek some type of remedy if it is not true or followed." Only thing this warrenty should be good for is a warrenty that the people trying to sell this stuff gets f$%#ed up because thats what i plan on doing if i see this happening to someone else. What made this whole situation funny is when i finally got this little crack head to get back into his truck here comes another truck who pulls up right behind me asking if i want to buy some speakers and a projector worth 3K. What a bunch of dumb a$$e$.
s	Los Angeles, California
2/22/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Same deal as everyone else. Two white guys in a brown SUV with a Utah license plate. Thought I was being charitable helping the guy out. That's what I get for being a good person. I had a 9-iron in my car. Should have used it to bash their skulls in.
19225 Rocklin Rd.	Roseville, California
2/21/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren If you've been had in Sacramento or surrounding areas, these guys live at 19225 Rocklin Rd!!! I got their HOME NUMBER-- what a couple of idiots! GOTO 19225 ROCKLIN RD AND ASK FOR JIMMY! (Of course, they'll probably say NO; but the TRUCK will be parked there if he's home!!!)
An eye for an eye	Burbank, California
2/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Home Theatre Speakers These guys are very active around the Empire Center, Costco and Fry's Electronics parking lots...be advised they are now driving an older model Ford or Chevy truck.
Scammed	San Jose, California
2/20/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolson Same exact scam, in South San Jose. The dude was a late 20's hispanic guy with a black flatbill hat. He was driving a white SUV Plate #:5BHM223 with California Plates
mikey irish	Burbank, California
2/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: McClaren same deal as others in Burbank...two posers probably meth heads pull up to me in black escalade. One guy with a colgate smile named Matt the other one hopped on speed named Jared...license 6DDE002. should have known better...my current surround system was acting wierd and seemed like right place at the right time. not sure what was going through my head...the pathetic part is i work in entertainment and should have thought twice... guess i let my guard down. that's what i get for trying to make myself think regular people are honest/good, etc. either way...saw these guys AGAIN. I was pulling out of the grocery store...idiots must not have recognized me and they stop in mid turn and same deal. i told them to pull into the parking lot. i had a motorcycle chain in the back of my truck and felt like they deserved a hospital job. unfortunately, they must have remembered/recognized me and they took off once i parked. jared and matt, im gonna get you a-holes...when you least suspect it. If you're smart you will get the hell out of burbank before i catch up with you. you effed with the wrong dude
Joe	San Francisco, California
2/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies MT-7 HD Sound I got one (Mclaren Technologies MT-7 HD Sound) today in Richmond District of San Francisco. He is a white guy. He said he is a delivery guy and the customer double order, that's why he has extra and his company didn't know. Therefore, he sold it to me $300 and the original price was $1999, that's why I bought one, but he had totally four boxes and i can buy it all. I'm lucky I didn't buy it all. He drove a yellow SUV, and look like a engineer driver.
david	MDR area, California
2/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren mt7 3 white guys scamed me with these speekeres i paid 100 i think there worth that anyhow but dont be fooled there not worth 1500 like they say
idiot boy	Burbank, California
2/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli HD-6K Two young attractive white guys, black Cadillac Escalade CA plate 6DDE002. Story is that they are left overs from a bid job at a Half Time restaurant. The job went 'union' and they said if they delivered the units the workers would get them. I am usually so cynical, but these items seemed perfectly timed for a project I am working on. I don't even want it for myself we don't watch TV at home. I can't say how much I got taken for, it's too embarrassing but it's more than other listed. Said their names were Matt, blondish hair, and Jared Dwyer dark hair, small tattoo near his left eye. He wears chipped nail polish. These two cons are in their late 20's and very good. I have not opened these items, but expect they are junk. I KNEW BETTER BUT IT JUST HAPPENED THAT THIS SEEMED LIKE GREAT TIMING. USUALLY I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS AND IT'S MY FAULT FOR GETTING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. This is what we get for expecting something for less than fifty percent of retail, my bad. If by some grace of something these turn out to be something that's not crap I will apologize here...like that's going to happen. I even took their pictures and a picture of their license plate. However, in looking at the "receipt" which was handwritten on the back of a partially torn off "shipping" order it lists LA Soundvision (L) COSTA MESA, 60915 Of course in the excitement, since I already had the goods in my car I did not notice that 60915 is an Illinois zip code. The Bernelli website also has disclaimers at the bottom saying the quoted prices are not actual selling prices in the metro area. THEY HAD A MAGAZINE LISTING THE PRICE, that's what turned me into a total sap. The cover date is June 2011, so this is a sophisticated scam. Spread the word people don't be ashamed. I'm not.
Anonymous	Sacramento, California
2/16/2012 The van or suv they were driving had 5STE310 as the license plate. They hassled me and even put the stereo in my car but I simply tossed it out and drove away. I probably should have just left with the stereo in my car so they would have to follow me as I report them to the police. They tried to show me papers "proving" that they work with some company. They were at Cosumnes River College trying to get me to believe that they had just dropped off a shipment of speakers to the college but I saw right through their story. Stay away from these low life types who try to sell stuff in the street. Most people would use craigslist or sell their goods to a friend. They wouldn't be trying to give strangers a "good deal". One of them looked Arabian or maybe Fijian and he was somewhat chubby. The other was a short white guy but the Fijian guy was more talkative. This happened over a year ago (2009 or 2010 I believe) but I still remember how annoying they were.
unhappy customer	milpitas, California
2/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: RolkOlsen r-10 Light skinned possibly hispanic with medium length short dark brown hair guy in his late 20's wearing a beanie with a white SUV possibly an Explorer approached me in Wells Fargo parking lot on Calavaras. Hassled me and my co workers for a bit till one of us caved. He asked for $500 at first said it was worth $2799 got him down to $160 he put the speakers in my car before I paid him. The guy seemed sketch so I handed him $100 and told him it was all there, idiot didn't even count it. Hope this guy gets caught
mateo	lodi , California
2/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: r- 10 paramax Same story I was approached by a guy name vern on a silver Ford explorer and he got me with $200 l hope l run into them again to get my money or kick his @%#*%?/.
kevin	Corona , California
2/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren mt-7 The same story 2 dudes 1white 1Mexican in a kinda tan or silver maybe Champaign color family van. They said they had an extra home theater speaker set they wanted to sell and of coarse because I must have sucker written on my forehead I said hell yea I'll take it. They said 500 bucks I said never mind but dude was persistent and asked how much can I do I said 100 and that's what he got me for. I really hope I see them again they got a No mercy beat down coming.
Bill	San Diego, California
2/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: Paramax I was approached by a short guy who called himself john - probably not his real name. He was in a black pickup truck and asked me for directions but soon after was offered me a "crazy deal" on 5.1 speakers. Probably the same type of "deal everyone else is talking about. After 10 minutes of lowballing, John agreed to taking $170. He asked to go to my ATM (yeah right bud!) so I said no and just gave him what I had. All in all though - not sure why everyone is crying here about their purchase? Get over it! - all you spent was around $200 so what did you expect anyway? I never thought they were worth $3000 but new for under $200 they would be a good deal. I hooked them up right away and have used them ever since and they sound great - REALLY! No they are probably not super fancy $3,000 speakers like "john" said they were but they do sound good with lots of bass from the subwoofer. I went to Best Buy and for the same money their speaker choices, were not as good at all. If I had to but them again I would - no issues for the money so stop whining!
CLEE S.T.F.O 714	Chino State Prison, California
2/11/2012 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-512 I was approached my two extremely sexy white meth/heroine addicts that offered me sexual favors if they would buy the high quality electronics out of the back of their lifted escalade. black flavored. Of course I said yes. They brought me back to a hotel room where they proceeded to show me electronics of a slipshod variety. I was so enthused that I gave them 1000$ of my hard earned cash. I have no regrets.
Ronald	corona, California
2/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren technologies Today I was scammed by two white tweekers in front of food for less.Sold me a surround sound that they said was worth 3000. Got home looked it up and all I got was how many other people fell for it.These guys better hope I don't see them again! I'm gonna take my money out of there ass!.
cali	Huntington Beach, California
2/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclauren Technologies same unk ass nitch who made me the punk ass bitch. haha omg i cant believe it. guys i just need to know more informatino about these guys. address license plates, ect. thanx =]
:/	Huntington Beach, California
2/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 McLaren Home Sourround Sound System 2-10-12 they got me today at the gas station which was g&m told them i didnt have the money and i needed to get it, they followed me to the bank here in huntington beach california city bank migth i add off off edinger across the street from bella terra, my loss was 200 bucks thats all i said to them was could afford, anyways the grey vehicle they were driving was a new 2012 chevy truck with black rims, it was a 4 door truck the doors ont he back had regular handles like you see on a 4 door car so its a short cab chevy truck it also had a chrome grill with the chevy logo on the front, it wasnt raised high it was below my shoulder line, as for the people it was a white male in his 50s he had a receding hair line and his hair was combe back it was short, with rinkles on his forhead and need to shave a small little beard with five oclock shadow he stood 6 foot tall he also had blue eyes, light blue in color wore blue jeans partially faded and a white t shirt he prob weighed about from 220 to 240 he had a gut, as for the other person he was hispanic was about 5'7" inches in height the wore a darker pair of blue jeans with a black shirt he also had some big tatto on his left arm on the shoulder area i remember because he lifted the box and put it in my car for me he weighed about 200 to 220, neither of them had missing teeth it looked like from there smiles, and the his panic guy wore a silver watch. im beating my self up for it but ill try to make the most of its a lesson to learn sigh :/ and as for the licenses plate ill i remember it was 6 soemthing but one the postings down below i read looked like it it matched what i saw. they told me they were bringing the others to sharkies bar soo jsut to head up to others, look for them at banks and since they know sharkies look for them there or gas stations. if you see them call the cops on them and delay them as long as you can anyways thats my story and i gatta deal with it.
my son is the :/ below	None, California
2/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 McLaren home sourround sound system my son forgot to mention below that the truck also had dark tinted windows if that helps anything else as he mentioned all the details about the guys and the truck as best as he could, so we can only hope we catch these guys
Jas Singh	Elk Grove, California
2/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkoslen An Indian guy and a White guy in a white suv (LIC: 6RLZ943) came to me at the gas station and were asking me if I wanted to buy a Rolkoslen home theater system. They told the same story about how their boss didn't care if they sold them because they have insurance on them. So I bought them for $200.
Marty	Oceanside, California
2/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren surround system They tried to me at a bank this morning, got the plate though. Silver van plate #6CGK231. Report them, these guys are theives. It was two guys, One white and one hispanic.
Tessie	sac, California
2/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen yesterday my husband was approached by two males in a champaign colored full size van, and asked to buy these speakers, they wanted 300 dollars for them he was like naa he offered them 50 bucks, and settled for 100 he brought them home and of course I had to look them up, and found this website, oh shit I said, you got scammed.. well he hooked them up and they seem to work pretty darn good... they also have the mrsp 2799.00 on the box..
mark	Roseville CA, California
2/9/2012 SAME WHITE GUYS 76RMX6987NOR76MMRS6987 SOME THING SIMILER SILVER SQUARE SMALL VAN
Erick Caldera	Manteca, California
2/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen R-10 Same as everybody else. Two guys drove up next to me, I should have just ignored them but they got me to pull over at a Chevron. They showed me paperwork (which I know presume is fake) and they used said things like "My boss is just going to take it for himself." They ended up squeezing 200 out of me. I'm glad that was all they could get. I wish I could have gotten their license plate. Now I know better to think before I act.
Roger Rabbit	Burbank, California
2/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren Sound System Was approached in the Best Buy parking lot of the Empire Center in Burbank, CA. Two white males of slender build, both with tattoos (one with a star or tear drop next to his eye) and dressed like they were going out to a club on a Friday night, driving a black Escalade. They seemed strung out on some kind of hard drug, the one with the tattoo next to his in particular. They had six or seven speaker systems in the back of their SUV. They gave me the same shtick others have detailed already: tried to sell me the McLaren HT-81 and MT-410; showed me the products in a magazine that listed the MSRPs at ~$3,500 and $2,500 respectively; told me they'd rather sell them to someone who needs them than take them back to their boss. They said they worked for "L.A. Sound" and that they do installations of sound systems of any and all kinds, including business, residences, venues and more. They were ready and willing (downright eager, actually) to sell one of the systems to me for $200. I told them I needed to think about it and do more research, asked them for their phone number (7202439242), which they gave to me hesitantly. It was very clear that they wanted to close the deal then and there, but luckily I didn't bite. The more manic of the two said his name was Jared, but he fits with the description others have given of a "Max Marquette." The second man did not give his name. Needless to say after researching Mclaren further and finding this thread, I did not do the deal.
Awwww!!!.......DAMN!!!!!.....	Sherman Oaks, California
2/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: BERNELLI HD-6K I bought one today!.....DAMN!!!!!...I paid $400 for it. When I looked it up I found this website. I hooked it up to an HD player and it seems to work okay. The HD looks good on the screen and the sound is some what decent, but I did not get the 3D to work, it said it wasn't detecting a 3D signal. Not sure how long it will last but I feel like it may be worth what I paid for it at least. I am dissapionted but I think I have decided to donate it to my church. They may want to take it with them on a Mexico mission trip comming up next month and let them have it for the church to use there. Hopefully it will be blessed and rewarding for them.
don't fall for it	la mirada, north orange county, California
2/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: kinetic ka-4210 home theatre system 2 guys approached me today in a greenish/dark colored pick up truck in my office parking lot saying they work for a company that installs speakers & their warehouse guys put in extra systems in their truck that they don't have an invoice for & the speakers actually sell for $3495 in the market but they'll sell it for $600 & split the money because if they take it back to the warehouse they won't get any credit for being good employees. they were extremely persuasive & convincing. Luckily I had my iphone with me, i did price search on google & stumbled across a SCAM article from people with similar stories & I told him i didn't want to buy it but i feel extremely sorry for people he will approach & rip off after not getting a deal from me. right when i started searching online, he said 'oh you have a smartphone huh'...as if he got scared & suddenly shut down the trunk of his pick up truck & started quickly showing me the price on his cell phone but i insisted on checking it on mine & read this article.
Paul	Citrus Heights, California
2/7/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen And I thought I got a good deal... Paid $500 for a set of speakers and then when I goggled them, SPAM is what I got. The people who sold it to me were in a silver ford explorer and they were in a gas station. It was located near Sacramento State University. I learned my lesson, now just have to struggle a little before I earn some money to compensate for the loss.
GOT SCAMMED IN REDLANDS..SMFH	REDLANDS, California
2/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: MCLAREN MT-7 Same story as everyone else. Don't know if the system works yet. Paid $120.. hopefully its not a loss!
S.T.F.O. 714 CLEE	None, California
2/2/2012 All of you need to quit fucking whining and go buy a 30 dollar reciever to hook your speakers up. If you look at the picture on the fucking box You can clearly see that it is a passive system. How dumb can you be.Thank you for filling my pockets with hundreds of dollars a week. The speakers are good. And to clarify, a scam is when you receive nothing in return for your spent money...Heck maybe if you go run back over to best buy I will have a reciever on deck to sell you...They're good :D
janus uy	los angeles, California
2/2/2012 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli Projector/McLaren Speaker Scam They ripped me off today at westchester square in sepulveda blvd, and La Tijera near LAX, $400 for the projector and $200 for the speaker. The were in a green toyota forerunner. Same MO as the white van cam, they will even show you a printed catalog with the MSRP of $5000 and the website using an Ipad. They will sell it for $500. If you happen to meet them, please get their license plate number and a photo would be nice. I know someone who can do something about it. If it is too good to be true then it probably is.
ET	Hacidenda Heights, California
2/2/2012 same story as everyone else. Got approached at Gas station and paid 1200 for two shitty speakers and two projectors.
RC	Long beach, California
2/2/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren Wow really, i can't believe i fell for this! I should have gotten his number or his license plate down. These two guys were in a Ford Expedition and approached me at a gas station. I still can't believe. Just a few minutes ago it happened. If I catch these guys again, its not gonna be pretty. DO NOT FALL FOR THESE GUYS!
Bobby	Turlock, California
2/2/2012 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen Came up to me at a gas station and I bought their speakers. I got their phone number its (916)757-2867. A black guy and a white guy in a blue suv. Go get them
Ethan	San Diego, California
2/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli these assholes got 500 out of me. if i see them again in my life they will go through hell. Fake ass Projector. weird enough it work actually really good.
Robert	Corona , California
2/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren home theatre I fell for the Same scam about a hour ago and it was by 2 white males one blonde other dark hair they were driving a gold Nissan Titan same story didn't want to give it to their boss so I bought em for 150 bucks and the blonde guy had some nerve to say he was in the marines and how can someone who just scammed somebody say god bless and oh ya he said he worked for a company in Newport I should of known who sells a 2000 dollar home theatre system for 150 bucks dang I am an idiot but hey we live and learn they said they were going to lake Elsinore so just be careful don't fall for it
414 Verbena court	Roseville, California
2/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren PAUL HUGHES (512) 636-1003 (Address removed ending investigation). I reposted this lying, scamming, sleazebag's info because i made a couple mistakes in my last post. ANYONE LOOKING TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK, GO TO THIS GUY'S HOUSE.
Amy	Garden Grove, California
2/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 HD Sound While at a strip mall located off of Beach and Lampson, a black suv rolled up, and two white males in their mid to late twenties (one blonde/one dark haired) approached me with the same spiel. They attempted to sell the equipment for $300.00 and got me for $200.00. Before opening the package, I googled the equipment and came across these scam reports. I inspected the equipment and found no cables and fake outlets. Fuckers got me for $200.00 bucks!
Get Your Money Back!!	Sacramento, California
1/31/2012 Product or Service Involved: McClaren mt-7 I bought these speakers and got scammed like everyone else. But..... I ran into these guys a week later and they didnt even recognize me. So, i followed them home, and they live at: (Address removed temporarily pending investigation). I did a little detective work and found that PAUL and AMBER HUGHES live at this adress. Reading through the back posts, PAUL seems instrumental in this scam. His phone number is: (513) 636-1003. I've contacted a lawyer and im laying in wait to take action while i have an investigator build a case for me. Anyone else looking for justice, THE GUY WHO RUNS THIS SCAM LIVES AT THIS ADDRESS: (Address removed temporarily pending investigation)!!!
Turtle	Santa Clarita Valley, California
1/27/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies Today I got scammed by two white guys in a white SUV. I was just returning from lunch. As soon as I parked in the Sears parking lot. They parked right next to me and told me that they were trying to get rid of some speakers. He was saying that they were priced at $2,000.00. At first i thought it was weird. Never heard of the brand. Showed me catalogs. I asked him how much. He hesitated at making an offer. Kept asking me. I said 200. He asked if I can go higher. I was like 300 and thats it. Went to the bank. Gave them the cash. I felt so fucking stupid when I googled it. I didn't really want them personally. I was thinking about reselling them and making some extra cash, but I fucked myself over. We have to spread the word about these guys. One guy has blond hair, blue eyes. Late 20s early 30s. The other guy didn't get out the car but roughly around the same age. He was wearing a black hat backwards.Thats all i remember about the other guy. It happened so damn fast. Driving a white SUV. Possibly a Chevy tahoe, yukon, style vehicle. People beware.
dave	paridise, California
1/26/2012 Product or Service Involved: M7 hd surround Mclaren Home theatre system brand new still in packaging. Digital HD Sound Ready, 1500 watts total system power, Sub 500 watts program, satellite center 5 x 200 watts. 10" long throw active driver, crossover slope adjusted to 80 HZ, complete 6 piece surround speaker system, black! Perfect for gaming, MP3, HD TV, etc. Color: Piano Black Gross Weight: 39.29 lbs Dimensions (H x W x D): 23.15" x 17.13" x 13.39" 1500 Watts total System Power Reach Me at 530 228 5752 my names Dave
Mike	Riverside, California
1/25/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 speakers rolled up in a golden truck talked them down to 200 but not i see its a scam.. If someone has their license plate... i believe "Brittany" from her post does. could you sent it to me? mcconroy55@aol.com
Derek	Carlsbad, California
1/24/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 Today I was approached by the two white males in their late to mid 20's. It's the same song and dance, they offered some amazing deal for these 2,000 dollar speakers. All of the equipment is there but i am devastated at how naive i was. It was in a mall parking lot, so please notify all friends and family members. I hope these thieves are caught and persecuted.
Dumb Ass	Westchester, California
1/23/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 I dismantle the speakers these assholes sold me, and it was filled with bags of dirt. They do that just to make the speakers feel heavy. The most expensive bags of dirt that I have and will ever buy. I'm such a dumb ass.
Dumb Ass	Westchester, California
1/19/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 I was approached by two white guys. One seem to be about 25yrs old and the other in his 30's. They told me they worked for a home theatre company and that they receievd an extra order of speakers and projector TV. They were supposedly from Newport Beach, and didn't want to return the extra shippment to their boss. Well, I fell for their story. Paid $500 for the speakers and projector. I should have known better, but we live and learn.
Jesse	Westwood, California
1/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Same Story as most people here. The guys came in and told me they were giving me a 300 dollar speaker system worth 2000. Yeah i'm an idiot for buying it. People can fuck you over for real if you're not careful. Hey seriously email me at jessehu2992@gmail.com if you have any information and i would be down to collaborate to bring these guys down.
Ron	CAMPBELL, California
1/18/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen R10 home theater Silver car pulled up at the Arco station on campbell offering surround sound and projector tvs. My dumbass paid 400 dollars for surround sound I can't even hook up because I dont have a reciever. Also I am scared to even try to hook up because all of the other scams on here! Feeling pretty stupid but I suppose I could consider it a donation to the homeless! Sorry to all the rest of you that get duped into this and I hope you are a better negotiator than I!!
huber	mission viejo, California
1/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: mt-7 mclaren were selling surround systems. He asked me what i did for a living and I said i was in the military. Then one of the guys said that he was medically discharged from the marines and had a metal rod in his leg. He told me he was in 2/5 and then he asked me what unit i was in. so i told him 1/1 in camp Horno and he told me he was there too. From there i should of known he was lieing because that unit does not even live there. I can not believe he really lied that far. So one of the guys wanted 300 and i said wont go over 100. so i ended up paying 120 and a gshock watch. =[ that watch is worth 120. he asked me for weed or somthing more becuase 120 was not enough. what a greedy man. He even wanted my flak jacket lol. BEWARE IN MISSION VIEJO. I am scared to use the speakers becuase it might burn out my tv. Someone please catch them
Thiago	North Park, California
1/17/2012 Same thing as everyone else reported the pulled up in a gas station. a guy and a girl in a gold pick up truck. got me for 140 bucks Im a great negotiator! ha!
BRITTNEY	MANHATTAN BEACH , California
1/17/2012 Product or Service Involved: MCLAREN TECHNOLOGIES THEATRE T512 I GOT THE WHOLE LICENESE PLATE BECAUSE FIGURED WAS A SCAM BUT WAS JUST GIVING GUYS BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BECAUSE ITS HARD OUR HER SO FELT THEY WERE PRETTY HONEST WHITE GUYS. LOL CUZ HE ASK FOR EXTRA 20 FOR BEAR AND MY BOYFRIEND WAS LIKE HECK NAH. I WAS LEAVING FRYES ELECTRONIC AND 2 GUYS IN BMW X5 FLAGGED ME DOWN AND TOLD ME ABOUT SOME SPEAKERS THEY HAD BRAND NEW IN BOX. I HAD JUST CAME OUT OF FRYES AND WAS LOOKING FOR A SURROUND SOUND FOR MY HOUSE. THEY APPROACHED ME AND SHOWED ME MAGAZINE & IN INVOICE THAT THEY GOT AN EXTRA SHIPMENT AND WANTED TO SELL THE ONE THEY HAD . HE ASKED 1000 SAYING IT WAS WORTH 2999 AND I BROUGHT HIM DOWN TO 300. I WENT HOME AND HOOKED UP AND SPEAKER SOUND LIKED A MARCHING BAND FULL OF DRUMMERS. I WAS PLEASED WITH WHAT I GOT AND VERY CONVENIENT TO HOOK UP. BUT NOW KNOW MAY HAVE BEEN STOLEN ILL BE SURE TO MAKE A REPORT.
Jason	Sunland, California
1/16/2012 Same same. Here is one of the guys number 781 249 0692. He is from Boston. Story had holes in it do thankfully I looked it up.
got jacked	Van Nuys, California
1/16/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren mt-7 Blue Chevy Minivan - License 6TIM525 Mark (781)249-0692 Same description as everyone else - excess speakers, invoiced products, need beer money blah blah. The driver even intentionally got out of his car, stretched (cause he was parked in front of me) to show me the "NEWPORT AUDIO" tv install logo on the back of his shirt. haha. Funny guys. I was dumb enough to buy it for $200 and haven't even tried opening it to see if they at least work ever since i started reading everyone else's postings on this site. Hindsight there were obvious signs they weren't legit, like they "just did an install job" but had absolutely NO tools in their van. Whatever - all you can do is learn from your mistakes and laugh. Getting mad or angry isn't going to resolve the situation.
erik	Inglewood, California
1/14/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren I was approached by white gentlemen in a black suv. LUckily for me i didnt have money and didnt fall for the pitch. I almost did. If my money was easier to get i would of fell for it. Im posting this so people can know that they have been around Inglewood. From what i gather, they target people in locations near the freeway.
who cares	San Diego /Pacific Beach Vons, California
1/12/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 Not a white van, a black SUV. If I see these fucks, They will wish they got caught by the cops, or any one I see pulling this scam for that matter. The whole mclaren sound system is a scam from what Ive gathered. Even got a website for it. I carry I knife, beware thieves that try to befriend normal honest people and use that to get ur meth/sex change money, cuz u obviously have no balls-especially if i see you or mclaren associates again. Anyone that fell for this, Im sorry it sux. Watch for it and get a liscense plate number or do whatever u want, hopefully with a blowtorch.
mark duyan	carson, California
1/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Speakers Two White dudes approached me when im walking outside the target by Carson mall, they were in the hurry to sell the extra speakers they have, and they have to get rid of it before they go meet their boss. i said i dint have any money on me , and this blond dude got out of the truck and ask how much money do i have ,i said i only got 200 bucks in my account. so i thought im getting a good deal they even gave me a ride to the bank close by.. and went back to my car and soled me seems to be brand new unopened speakers. they said the original price is $2,000 he even put it in the trunk of my car. when they left i googled the speakers i bought and found this site. mother fuckers got my 200 bucks for the piece of shit speakers. they were driving a white truck gave me a fake names and a company phone number thats on one of the guys T-shirt..
DONKEY	CITY OF INDUSTRY, California
1/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: I CINEMA Good thing I filled up my gas tank before this a hole talked to me. He only got me for 100.00 but I do not feel that bad compared to other victims. He claimed CASINO MORONgo over ordered and he had to dump what was left before he returned the company SUV. At this point I was thinking I have lost money at MORONgo time to take some back.He even had a invoice showing the items. Should have know the house always wins.Lesson learned here is the Consumer Warranty DivisIon info out of the box PO BOX 9480 Ontario Ca 91716-9480. I hope my 100.00 went to good. I found 2 different websites on this company with no contact info aside from the cheesy warranty info card if they ever post where this stuff comes from I will definitely be hearing from me.
Michael kwan	Dublin , California
1/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren sound system So, im a student, i was approached by these two dudes and i should have known better and followed my gut instincts to ignore these two dudes but they were really persistent and it just so happened i was in the market for a sound system.... So i got baited for 180 dollars and the motherfucker took my 2010 addidas pro models in addition and at that point i wanted to slash the s.o.b. for taking anything out pf my vehicle wothout permission but i thought i was getting a good buy. Greed got to me and although i was convinced the items werent hot.....the right thing would have been to return them. Shame on me for taking advantage, instead i got took. So now i might try to make the best of it and see if i can get what some folks say are actually good speakers to work....of not....ill chuck em and take it as an expensove lesson learned. O hope whoever wears those shoes breaks their fuckin ankle, it was a faulty pair that ripped on second wear.....karmas a bitch fuck you!
Benjamin Chell	orange, California
1/10/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren m7 I think i just got raped for 160, i have yet to try the speakers but there is no pre amp? i should of seen it coming. I have the guys phone # so if i go home and this doesn't work then im posting it on here.
erik	San Diego, California
1/9/2012 Product or Service Involved: mclaren surround sound Two white dudes one with tatoo by eye sold me mclaren surround sound speakers for 200 they work and after reading this site I feel like a dumbass there in point Loma in SD black tahoe suv
Stanton Hunter	Sherman Oaks, California
1/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 2 dudes pulled up to me in the Ralph's Parking lot. They were driving a grayish white mini van. They seemed like they smoked too much, but were nice guys in general. I forget the one guy's name, but the other dude went by the name Lyle James. They claimed to work for some audio company. They ask me if I want to buy a new sound system. I tell them no and keep along my way. He asks me to hear him out, and goes on to tell me about how they only ordered 2, but there was a mix up and so they have more. They don't want to give it to their boss so he can turn a profit, and would rather just make a few bucks on the side, but are on a time crunch because their boss is waiting for them. They ask me what I could offer, and I tell them i could only do $80.. MAYBE $100. They say the last guy paid $500. I said too bad, better luck to ya, and proceeded to walk away. After thinking i've ducked these guys, they come back to me and say that their boss is texting them asking where they are, and they really need to dump this extra, so if I could just kick in an extra $20 for beer, then they system is mine. They showed me some catalog with the systems and the price, and said they had a pawn shop offer $800 for it, but didn't want to give it to another business, so make it $120 and we'll call it a merry christmas. Lyle writes down his name and number, along with the warranty info, and the deal is made. ahh I feel so dumb. I even told them how sketchy this all seemed, but it all seemed legit after they worked me a bit... Im usually so much better when it comes to this kind of stuff, and never once did i think to take out my iPhone and google this shit. I hope they catch these douche bags
AAron	modesto ca, California
1/8/2012 Product or Service Involved: rolkolsen r10 bought these at lowes in modesto from 2 motherfuckers about 22-24 years old wearing dirtbike style clothes and driving a grey chevy trailblazer paid 200 bucks for these rolkolsens pieces of shit said they were overstocked 2,800 msrp and had to get rid of them fast showed me a receipt from a place called sound lab in Roseville also had a bunch more sterios but diffrent brands and a few projectors. other guys got my brothers to buy some shit at chevron on kansas ave
Matt	Burbank, California
1/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Home Theatre Same thing as stated below. Black Escalade License Plate: 6DDE002
Los	San Franciso, California
1/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: Sound theater system They got me for $100. Two while guys, white van, it happened today at 3.15pm. It sucks!
Lin	La Jolla, California
1/5/2012 Product or Service Involved: McLaren BLU-3 Digital Fusion Coming out of UCSD's parking lot, some guy in a silver Scion XB (goes by the name of "Frank"), w/ a left elbow tattoo & shaved head, stops right beside my car & asks if I want to buy the Blu-3 5.1 soundsystem. After about 5 refusals, he lowers price to $300. I had the cash at my house, and he follows me all the way to Clairemont Mesa where I live and waits outside my place while I get the cash. He then takes the money, opens the soundsystem box, and shows me warranty information & all the contents. He gives me a phone #, tells me he's going to meet his boss very soon, and drives off. Sketchy, now i know not to fall for this sucker again.. Details: Name: "Frank" Car: "Scion XB, Silver" (if he hasn't ditched it already" Phone #: 760-529-6365 License Plate #: 6TNG025
Elise	None, California
1/4/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren technologies speaker system Two white dudes approached me one which walked with a limp stated they were shipped too much equipment and therefore trying to get rid of it before going back to the wherehouse. There weren't in a white van but in a F150 style black truck. They stated they just wanted some party money.
Andrew	Burbank, California
1/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren HT-81 So I was at CVS off of Victory and Buena Vista when a guy approaches me trying to sell a set of speakers (he was not in a white van but was in a white ford explorer). Great similar story stating his boss ordered some speakers and accidently got an extra set, even showed a carbon copy of the packing slip showing the units. He said he didnt want to take it back to work and would rather have someone else take advantage of the offer since his boss was unaware of the extra set of speakers. He even showed a legitamite magazine showing the speakers with a catalog price of 3,499.99. He didnt give a price of what he was selling them for but was willing to take offers. On our way to driving to the ATM i googled the brand of speakers on my iphone and it was clear this was a scam since there are previos posts that are very similar, i even showed him my phone and the storys that are going on about them which he denied to my face. We were going to give him $225 which may have been a fair price but with no warranty and no guarantee that these items will work it still wasnt worth it. I told him the deal is off and we are going to pass on the speakers, he was suprised but not upset and drove away. Tip to the nieve "if something is too good to be true it probably is" dont let the impulse bug get you. We all work hard for our money and are better off making a legitamite purchase of a well known brand from a well known retailer.
Lucky Duck	Burbank Ca., California
1/3/2012 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren HT-81 Wow Really??? Did I just get scammed too, you be the judge? Similar shady story here! I was coming outta the Costco on Victory and Burbank, when some dude driving a "White Explorer", as stated below, got my attention asking me if I wanted a Home Theater System, of coarse I asked how much and took a look.... Yep, as you all already know, he got one extra system he wanted to unload before his boss finds out about the unmarked merchandise and keeps it for himself... He starts by showing me a warehouse release invoice for what he ordered, it read one HT-81, he had 2... Anyhow he tells me he's not trying to get rich even though it retails for $3,499 and that someone else offered him a good price but it was a check, and he only wanted cash... I said I'll give him $250 but he got me up to $350, I happened to have it on me and I was down for that...! I conveniently don't have an "iPhone" and wasn't able to research the brand before buying. I'm not gonna lie and tell you I wasn't a little leery once I had gotten home and googled the product in question and read these posts. I then anxiously connected the home audio system and WOW!!! I'm totally satisfied with my buy, I don't at all feel like I got scammed, The system I got works great with all my stuff (ps3, bluray and what not).. I thought telling me I could talk on the phone with it and all it's bells and whistles was a bunch of sugar coating but, It's nice and loud and clear and WORKS!!!! It does everything he said it would, I have it connected to my PC, PS3, Cable box, and my Blackberry, I'm Happy! Word to the wise, I don't doubt there are some speaker scams out there, bricks in boxes etc, or some janky passive speaker systems... However I can't vouch for any other piece of equipment posted on this site But the Mclaren HT-81 is definitely does it's job!! Especially if you are like me and can't go out and spend an arm and a leg on an expensive system.
Dave	Burbank, California
1/1/2012 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Theater System MT-7 These same guys must have got me right after, or before they got Mick Same description: Two white dudes in an escalade. One had a star tattoo on his face. Both were bro types. They approached me outside of Lowes. Told me they were installing these sound systems, and their boss got the job through some union. They were not union, and somehow ended up with an extra set of equipment. They said if they went back to the office with it, they'd have to give it to the union guys. Showed me some catalog with the item in it, retailing for like $2k. Said they'd give it to me for $500. I ended up giving them $300. for it. Damn, I wish I would have googled it on my iphone before doing this.
Mick	Burbank, California
12/31/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Surround Sound HT-81 Two white dudes in an escalade. One had a star tattoo on his face. Both were bro types. It's amazing how accurate some of these stories are. They approached me outside Fry's Electronics. Told me they were installing these sound systems, and their boss got the job through some union. They were not union, and somehow ended up with an extra set of equipment. They said if they went back to the office with it, they'd have to give it to the union guys. Showed me some catalog with the item in it, retailing for like $2k. Said they'd give it to me for $500. My stupid ass is in the market for a new surround system (its as if they knew) so this sounded like a great deal. Some killer system for super cheap. Turns out the system works, but it sounds like crap. Anyone wanna buy a Mclaren HT-81? I'll sell it to you for $500... its worth maybe $250 ;)
happy buyer	sacramento, California
12/30/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT7 I was approached by two guys at a gas station offering me the same kinda deal...one was tall, skinny and very amusing. the other was goofy and acted like he was from Washington DC but he was also pretty nice. Anyhow i got a set from them for 150 and i love it. Thanks guys! STFO!
A Cohen	Culver city , California
12/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 speakers White male with lots of tatoos brown short hair, and black male, fell for the following scam. White guy came up and said he was a contractor doing a job and has to come back to the office with an extra set of speakers. He said they needed extra money for a strip place. I don't know why on earth I fell for this. Anyway one had to use the restroom and the black male tarted with his pitch. I must have been exhausted from doing actual legitimate work, he gave a story that was different from the other guy. Long story short took me for $140.00. If I run into to them they are giving it back with interest, or will happily beat the s**t out of them. This was on south sepulveda and sawtelle blvd in culver city.
dutchgirl	Hemet, California
12/28/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Home Theater I can't belive I feel for this scam, if it's to good to be true then it's a scam. I too was approached by someone driving a white suv while I was getting gas at a Cheveron station here in Hemet. The outside of the van had the sticker Kinetic, as well as the person driving the van had Kinetic displayed as a company log on his shirt. The white male said he was working at a near by new housing tract installing home theater system and his boss said they were changing to a different setup. He said that he asked his boss if he could sale the extra systems and that he could make me a good deal. He even showed me the cataloge where the same surround sound system "MSRP" was $1350.00. He said as he was helping me load one the three boxed systems he had in the back of his suv into my suv the I can have the system for $200.00. I gave the system to my husband for Christmas and have yet to find out if its any good. Thats when I found this site on the Internet after I Googled Kinetic. Its my own fault falling for the scam or the year. At least I didn't end up with a bunch of rocks in a box!
Sal	Chino, California
12/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: Palladium speakers Me and a few friends were approached by this guy in a white van, he said he just got done with a trade show and had some speakers left over that he had to sell, he was asking 300 for a set that was supposed to retail for 3200. Luckily we started looking for the reviews on the Internet but found nothing, however we did find many websites that show the white van scam, so we just walked away, he kept asking me how much I could pay but I just ignored him, thank god
Ernest Williams	san francisco, California
12/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: brendel projector i bought a projector with screen for my dance studio. the screen was 72" wide. I wasn't sure i was getting a good deal but I have been shopping around and the projector i was thinking about was over $600, without screen. I googled to find info, and i don't know what to say. I am happy with purchase, it is serving my purpose for studio, and it works great. The picture isn't as good but i saved $200 or more, if i would have bought the better one at best buy. I feel like i should feel as if i was scammed, but i paid less and it works well. if it breaks down or something i will let you know and i will feel your way. but i do have a warranty with a purchase reciept. i sent the warantee in and recieved contact info and assurance of replacement. I have been all over the internet and many scams about this out there. i guess i was but don't feel that way. i am missing something. it works, paid less, and i am getting another one tomarrow. also i remember something about white vans, but that was 25 years ago.
frank the tank	Chico, California
12/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: kinetic home surround sound and projector I was getting gas at the Chevron station on Skyway right across the street from Bank of America. Two guys in a white van pulled up next to me with the story about how they received extra equipment and didn't want their boss to take it. Said they had to meet him in 20 minutes. At first they were trying to sell a Kinetic surround sound system "worth $3000" and wanted to know what I would offer. After I told him I didn't have any money, he asked if I just wanted to take the projector instead. I told him that I had already spent all of my money on Christmas and he told me to go into the gas station to the ATM.It was a fat guy with sideburns and a bleach blonde guy who looks like he was wanting to buy meth with the money. They said that they wanted to get whatever money they could so that they could buy beer and celebrate with their friends.
JJ	San Jose, California
12/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: Something I never heard of with a $2,000+ MSRP Two white dudes aggressivley trying to sell me some $2,500 surround sound system. I never heard of the brand. He told me $500. I told him no. He said go into the store and max out my ATM and he will give it I told him, "No, I have to go to work." He went to his vehicle grabbed the box of equipment and threw it in the back of my truck and he tried to get in my ride and I asked, "What are you doing?" He said, "You are going to the bank and I am going with you." I said no, actually, I am going to work. The dude got out, took his surround sound with him, hopped into his vehicle and there was a driver in there and they started to follow me and they were gonna follow me to work but I juked them, took some cutty back streets, started smashing 60 in 25 mph zones and lost them. Beware. This dude said he had a plane to catch in two hours, "And I'm not trying to drive all around San Jose with $10,000 worth of stereo equipment." Beware.
Cody	Los Angeles, California
12/19/2011 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 HD Sound Approached by 2 Caucasian males at a Bank of America parking lot. Good talkers. Looked the equipment up on the internet and found this.
Juancafe	Corona, California
12/17/2011 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 HD On Thrusday I was on Cajalco Corona and two white guys appeared. They started talking and offering these $2000 speakers, and I bought for $250. Well it was a white van two with guys like meth adicters one of the guys name was derwin or something like that phone number 9493917836
Nik	Hawthorne, ca, California
12/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mt-7 speakers 2 white dudes driving a green toyota suv licence # 5ypw720 in the bank of america parking lot off of hawthorne blvd right next to police station! Tried selling the hommie some speakers and a projecter and we knew it was a scam but he went and talked to them anyways so we can get the licence plate number. the guys like blahblah blah 6000$ projector for like $400 bucks with the screen and all that. My hommie ended up walking away from them when he had all the shit out of the box in the parking lot and we were fucking dieing of laughter they looked so stupid putting theyre shit back in the truck.,passenger never got out. Beware theycould have been armed but luckily so were we and nothing popped off thank god. I didnt feel like stabbing someone in the neck today :)
R	Venice Beach, California
12/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 HD Surround Speakers Same experience as everyone else on here. Two guys in a white van talked me into these speakers, thought the amp came with it - nope it doesn't, speakers work at least but probably worth $50 (no site sells them except the manufacturer) The license plate on the Van was: 6GCK321. Didn't bother filing a police report.
bad boy	turlock, California
12/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: kinect My friend just bought that system from these 2 guys and hes really upset but we dug around and found out that these are really expensive system that these speakers goes to that price on the side 2,500 or something if these idiots had stolen the whole system and not just speakers they would have gotton more cash the whole system that comes with the amplifier. So we all got good deals but if we can get the AMPIFIER for cheap, then we are good.
kate	Studio City, California
12/12/2011 My Son got scammed by these crooks. I've got their license plate number. How do these guys sleep at night? My Son works hard for his money, unlike these filthy losers. I know Karma is going to catch up with them because it always does.
More than pissed	Lancaster, California
12/10/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren mt-7 hd speakers I was approached at a gas station by 2 guys saying they had to get rid of an extra surround sound system. I stupidly fell for it and pain 200 for junk. They were in a blue suv ca license # 5fww295. I'm trying to get info on the owner of this vehicle but don't seem to have the proper recourse to do so. Hopefully one of you know someone who can get DMV records. Revenge is in order.
JV	Sylmar, California
12/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: Icinema Speaker systme HD-5 I-cinema Speaker Scam in Southern California! Well i first arrive to a 7-eleven in sylmar,California, and as soon as get out there's a guy that just parks up right next to me and he asks me i wanted to buy a brand new set of speakers since they were supposedly extras and he had to get rid of them because his boss will get mad if he doesn't get rid of them. At first glance the guy looks legit, he was wearing a shirt that matched the same shirt logo on the speaker brand so i was tricked at first without knowing it. He starts telling me the speakers were going to be sold to guy but the guy didn't buy them so had to get rid of them at first he offered them for 500 but i refused. I went inside and he told me again whether i wanted them but i said no but ill call a friend if he wanted some thing like that. Turns out in the end when i get to my car again he comes up for one last offer for about 200 dollars, and i thought the deal was to good to lose so i ended buying them. The guy even gave a business card to i was convinced that he was legit. After the whole deal i go to hook up the speakers and turns out they are horrible, then i go online to check what were the reviews, turns out that it was a whole scam due to the fact when i googled it, it was the first thing that popped out "scam icinema speakers". I felt so stupid for falling for the super good deal, i guess i learned my lesson no buy junk from people on the streets.As of now i only got his number can anyone help track it down its "818-448-3994" or at least help me find some info off this guy, im going back to the seven eleven to see if i can get video of the guy at least to report him.
pissed	Fresno, California
12/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: ICinema I may have found their residence! Was this the white van ya'll were ripped off by? 8539 N. Paula ave. 93730 Google maps the address. Approached by two white males, "Cameron" and "Alex", claiming to be authorized dealers from SoundLab Studios (this is when it becomes a felony due to fraud because SoundLab studios is an actual company that these punks do not work for) sold me an "extra" home theater system. They were driving either a silver Durango or RAV4 and one of them claimed to be the nephew of Tesla's front man Jeff Keith. After a little investigating, thanks to craig'slist.com I found an "Alex" selling an Icinema system. I call him and he tells me he owns a business called t.v. and appliance center on Shaw and Blackstone. After looking it up, no such thing exists. He suggests we meet at his house, and gave me his address(google-maps). When I arrive, I noticed there was a silver RAV 4 in the driveway... I walk inside and it wasn't the same "Alex" that had ripped me off, but there was something definitely fishy because he had t.v.'s and electronics all over his house. He says "This is the last unit, so I cannot hold it for you." I asked if he had a business that sold them. Not giving me a definitive answer he said he runs them out of his business located somewhere between Fresno and Madera called AbetterService.Also nonexistent. Not only did he lie, but with a white van and silver Rav 4 in his driveway, combined with the lies and surveillance system he wanted to make clear he had, I'd say this is a ring leader and these two kids are his mules. So how do we bring them to justice? Can the police really do anything about it?
Joe	Morada Stockton, California
12/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: ICinema Rolkolsen Chevron & Eight Mile Station Morada, Silver Dodge Durango Lic 6SSB357, ripped off...stuff does NOT work....Beware.
Angel	San Jose, California
12/7/2011 Product or Service Involved: Rolkolsen I bought this shitty speakes from two duche bags that got me in a gasolone station (Arco)saying that they recieved an extra order of speakers and their boss would just keep them.Beware of this Idiots!
Jack	Chula Vista, California
12/6/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Speakers Same story as the rest. White van near the Chula Vista mall. They started at $400 and ended up saying they would take $100 for. When I said no, they started yelling at me for making them open the box to show me the speakers...I walked away
Nurse	Corona, California
12/6/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT 7 HD sound Guy in mid twenties got me for a bill today at the magnolia off ramp off the 15 fway in corona. The guy had a black eye from someone kicking his ass. Im gonna do worse than that when I see him.
Tommy	Anaheim, California
12/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 These guys are real low lives. I feel terrible for all the people that scammed way harder then I did. They only got a 100 bucks from me. Someone posted this number earlier and I want to just confirm that it is in fact one of the assholes numbers. I keep calling him everyday just sending him pages and it's driving the dude nuts. So if you want to get a little pay back then go ahead and just call this number off the hook... dude gets so mad. I was able to impersonate one of their "crew" on the phone and they are even scamming their own employees. The person I was impersonating was named "Steven" and "Jay" proceeded to tell me I was "fired" and that he was sleeping with Steven's girlfriend. Just keep calling this guy, worst thing that'll happen is he changes his number. I know this is his real number because 'Steven' got fired for giving out 'Jay's' real number to people.
Out $700	El Cerrito, California
12/1/2011 Product or Service Involved: R-10 Rolkolsen, I cinema tuner Almost exactly the same details as guy from Brooklyn Park, Minnesota. But now they're in Northern California. This is a very slick, "Professional" scam. They've got fake web sites (that are still up today if you do a Google search on the product names)-with very professional graphics. The new boxes with plastic strapping are very convincing with well done product photography and graphics, the fake(?-I haven't checked it out yet) sales slip showing that too may items were delivered. They didn't pull out their smart phone with the web site showing until I said I was going to call my audiophile friend on my cell.
chui	van nuys, California
11/30/2011 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 I say we all get together and find them!!!!
dinomeas	Lakewood, California
11/30/2011 Product or Service Involved: I-Cinema i-HD500 It wasn't a white van but I, too, just got scammed not too long ago while driving home. A car in the other lane was screaming for my attention and told me to pull over and check out this speaker system. I, like a fool with nothing better to do, pulled over at a Jack In The Box and they sounded very desperate to sell the few extra speakers they had left before they get back to the warehouse. Very convincing. I only had $120 on me. They asked if I could head out to the bank and pull some more money out but I refused to do so. They wanted $600 at first but was willing to do $400. I still said no. As I was heading back to my car to leave, the guy in the passenger seat came out and said he'll take the $120 because he'd rather hook me up than not make anything out of it at all. And yes, it's starting to sound all the same now with everyone else' stories, they said I owed them some beers if I see them again because I got it for dirt cheap.
Randy Williams	Modesto, California
11/30/2011 Product or Service Involved: Macleran mt7 speaker system was approached by 2 white guys driving a silver dodge durango suv behind der wienerschintzel at sisk road and standiford at 3pm.had these units in back of suv claming they over-ordered for a bar install.they had some kind of invoice and a copy of a supposed home sound magazine.I bit on the deal.havent plugged them in yet.probably chinese junk.the satillite speaker are not wireless as promised -so it will probably end up being used in my garage.If they work correctly i probably got what i payed for.Maclaren Technologies has a website up but the tech support is a fax# only.the guy that was doing the selling was riding passenger.left name and phone # .Nathan @ 916 412-8651.
WE LIVE AND WE LEARN...	Hollywood , California
11/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 First off after reading countless stories of these scam artists I really feel like we all are stronger people now because of this. It just happened to me about an hour ago. I left work early not feeling well, decided to go to the chevron gas station on the corner of Melrose and La brea a block away from pinks hot dogs. Anyways I hop out my car and go buy some ginger ale, soon as I step outside this Ryan Seacrested out kid in a black stussy shirt looked like he was in his mid 20's straight out of saved by the bell, all giggly screamed yo come check this out man! you you are not going to believe this... So he takes me over to a silver truck then just goes on about how he has to get rid of these stereos, Well as others have stated these guys know what they are doing, There was 1 latin kid with a hat backwards on in the drivers seat. Anyways the white kid did all the talking he told me they miscounted how many stereos he was supposed to ship and he's trying to get rid of em to say a big F u to his boss. He said he makes tons of money he doesn't even need the money he just wants to get rid of them. He said he doesn't even install them he just drops them off. I knew it sounded sketchy but he showed me the price, the box, the catalog, the receipt. He was all giggly the entire time. Anyways I got took for $300 and as soon as I put the box in my car he walked back to his ride and then started screaming ay man you sure you don't have anything else? let me get your shoes? your shirt? u have anything in your ride? I said no the entire time. Soon as I got in my car they sped off.It was a lesson well learned that I have manned up and acknowledged I got took. You live and you learn...
stephen	los angeles, California
11/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: mclaren mt7 why is this speaker a scam? two guys in a gold ford pick up truck (f150) told me the person sold the speaker to him loaded 2 extra and wanted to get rid of them. offerend 500 and i told him all i had was 200. the box looked legit and cuz i was rushed dued to traffic, i just bought it. gave me his number with a 805 area code number dont know if it's real or fake. probably fake. (805)210-6525.
Anonymous	Sherman Oaks, California
11/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 4 guys in a white mini Van scammed me with the Mclaren Speakers. I actually got his name and number. I insisted he let me see his phone ring when I called the number he gave, and yes, he gave me the correct number. He hangs up immediately every time I call. I don't know if anything can be done with his number .. But if anyone can do something with it, even if its calling him repeatedly, here it is.. He said his name was "Jay" 253-653-7947
Sucker	Sacramento, California
11/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Olin Ross Man am i a joke. Last year i bought speakers from some guys at the galleria in roseville. I bought a projector and a surround sound for $1500. I was so pumped and my girlfriend was so excited the whole time the guy was showing us. I had planned on selling it but my girl wanted to keep it. I convinced her we needed the money and that we would make like 5 g's if we sold it so she bought in. We got it home and looked on the net and... You know the rest. I was so burnt about the whole deal i didnt know what to do. All i had was the dude's phone number and nothing else. We should have never bought that stuff, it was on impulse and we didnt even have the money to spend. Long story short we got evicted cause we couldnt pay our rent. My smokin girl left me and i got f'd. Then 4 days ago i saw the mtherfcker who scammed me at a gas station. Yes!!! I didnt let him see me cause i was gonna call the cops and follow him. He was waiting by the woman's bathroom so i assumed he was waiting for someone. Low and behold my ex-girlfriend walks out and hugs and kisses this dude. WTF? Turns out she got his number outta my phone to give him a piece of her mind and he ended up giving her a piece of him. Am i just a douche? Or are these guys that good. I looked back at my phone bills and she was cheating on me with him before we even broke up! Jesus christ. I confronted them but it was pointless. Now im fuming. My life was great before this dude came along. Then he scammed me took my girl and my dignity. So i did some detective work and i was pointed to a guy named Paul. Also my lawyer said the best angle to attack to get these guys was related to taxes or something. Either way im gonna line my ducks up and go after this Paul guy or whoever is running this scam. If all else fails, im unemployed and i got time on my hands, i'll just get up in this guy's sh*t until he pays me off to go away.
Yann	SAN FRANCISCO, California
11/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: MT 7 McLaren HD Sound System 2 white guys (one with dreadlocks) in a blue SUV. Very cool, junky poor/miserable looking guy... looks like 2 simple minded dudes to me that desperate need some quick cash to pay their drinks and pots! I totally felt in their game, good seller for sure so who is the stupid one now! I lost $300 and I am still trying to find a way to put this scam traffic down. It happens at the Home Depot parking lot at Emeryville around noon on Wednesday Ovember 23rd.
Mira Mesa	San Diego, California
11/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren Surround Sound Same 'ol, Same 'ol. I was leaving Jack in the Box, they honked, offered me a great deal on surround sound McLaren speakers. They had a projector and screen as well. Started with saying some other guy was offering $500 bucks but wanted to write a check, asked me if I had cash... "hi red flag." I'm wondering if they were gonna jump me, there was three of them. I was asked a couple of times if I had cash on me. They knew right where the banks and ATM were... hhhmmm. They wanted to follow me to the bank... hhhhmmmm.... I left and told them I'd be back. I'm sure they didn't wait for me. The guys were nice, really talkative and amped up, classic scam stuff, talking very quickly, wanting a quick decision, pretty pushy. "We install these in million dollar homes" the box says $2000 for them. It all seems fairly legit, but it's not. I probably would have bought them had the guys been straight up about it... these are decent speakers, make us an offer. White Van, three dudes, long haired white guy, hispanic driver, younger tatted fella. When something seems too good to be true... it is.
Rosie Amezcua	Lakewood, California
11/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren MT7 BEWARE... they are in the Lakewood Mall parking lot next to the BOFA ATM.. 2 white guys in a small light blue/white SUV offering surround sound system saying it was worth $2,000 and that they got it for free but didn't want their "douche" boss to keep it. They offered a 90% discount or whatever we could come up with CASH. They almost had us but thankfully we came across this website. Main talker: 6'1 White male (mid to late 30's) short hair & tattoo on left hand, ear pierce and reeked of cigarettes. Talking fast and said he needed to get back in 10 minutes. Passenger: white male (late 20's) w/baseball hat. BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GS	Lake Elsinore, California
11/18/2011 Product or Service Involved: Maclaren MT-7 home theater system Yeah I'm pretty sad they scammed me 100 dollars. Vehicle was a blue truck. Licence plate number 8x83599 (Saw another victim posted that same licence plate about a month ago.) Driver white male black shirt blue jeans. Annoying laugh. 6'1-2. Passanger wore a legit brand shirt that said Maclaren (looked real to me)The other person (SM) who posted said something about a tattoo but this time I guess he was wearing long sleeve. They had a story about how they hated their boss and they wanted me to have the system instead. MSRP 2000 offered 500 and I said the most I could do was 100. Yeah I was already at the bank so easy money for them. It was on Central and collier Bank of America around 13:00... Matthew 6:19-21 ESV �Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
marco martinez	chatworth and reseda, California
11/17/2011 Product or Service Involved: sorrounsistem k1500 He came and stop me he has 4 brand new speker that he buy and he has one extra for freee in best buy and he want to sell it for what ever I have and I say to him I got 80 bucks he tell me but it cost more than 2000dls and I say that it 80buck and he say ok and put it in my truck,he look young like 30;whiteboy and driving a gray suv nissan pathfinder if u see it tell him come around comes around he got me so good I hope he pay back in jail .mf.
I got Scammed	None, California
11/17/2011 Product or Service Involved: studio Speakers This looked like high end studio speakers but when pluged in Just junk speakers inside .LOL Two slick talking Guys in front of Home Depot ,claimed they had two extra speaker life on truck and need to sell them for what ever reason funny. I have to hand it to them they got me for $150. had to drive over to ATM next lot over yu get it I have many friends that all Laught saying yea i got a pair of those speakers too. Its all about Greed and fast money and some one who sees a great deal .Wrong go ya lol .I just took te junk speaker and put new good speaker in the box $150. more and had good speakers funny . This scam has been around along time .
Were waiting.	studio city, California
11/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: mt 7 klaron surround speakers Got scammed. You really fucked up this time. Watch your backs. No joke. We know were you do this shit.
George	Long Beach or Signal Hill, California
11/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren VX 1000 MSRP $4,995 simular story 2 guys Black Escalade at Costco. Started at $600 got him down to $200 but didn't buy them. I don't care about 2000 watts, I want quality. I never heard of the brand and could pay that much without hearing the sound quality. I agree that you aren't scammed if you got the unit for a decent price. Take them out and listen to them. $150-$200 is probably not a bad price. Look at what you get at Wallmart for that price. You have what you bought and they work. They are just closer to the price you should pay.
Juan Varela	Ontario, California
11/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren DT-7 Home Speaker System At the T/A truck stop two young guys approached me about a speaker system they were selling for a reduced price because they were issued extras at a warehouse as part of their order. They supposedly are installers for a company out of Bakersfeild, CA and wanted to get rid of them. One young guy showed me a magazine -e-gear- looked official, but I didnot recognize the magazine, which is no big deal as I am not savy of current tech mags. He opened the box had a real slick and plausible story and I bit. Spent a c note. Have yet to hook them up at home, but was informed of the scam by my son.
Greg	Northridge, California
11/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: mclaren technologies Mt-7 surround sound speaker system 2 dudes in a van stopped me at school and sold me the speaker system using the same story about having an extra unit. ...
Kevin	None, California
11/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Speakers I was leaving the 24hr fitness center in Anaheim Hills, CA. I was actually in my car with the windows almost all the way up. It was just after 4pm and these guys in an SUV, not a van, pulled up and it looked as though they wanted to ask me something. I was actually in a hurry which kind of made me mad but I thought he was just asking directions to get somewhere or something so I talked to him and his other friend or whatver was in the vehicle too. He told me about this story that he had an extra one of those speaker sets, blah, blah, blah (can't remember the story exactly) and they were from some company that had them or something and that they needed to sell one right away and mentioned that they were about $2,000 but said they were basically going to give it away and they wanted to show me what it looked like and everything. I really wasn't sure and even though the box had never been opened they kept pushing and pushing to sell it to me. They asked how much was I willing to buy them for. I really had no interest at all to buy any speakers. I kept telling them that money is very tight right now, you caught me at a bad time but they still didn't give a crap. After I told the driver sorry I'm not able to he said ok but then the other guy got out of the vehicle and said are you sure you can't do like $140, we are really losing money on this. I don't know how these guys do it. He then put the box in the back of my truck and I was so dumb that I said fine and they followed me up to the atm. I wish I had never first talked to them and just drove off. I bet if I was with someone they probably wouldn't have even approached me. Now I wish I would've gotten their license plate number or something. Hopefully someone gets these A..holes.
greg	Northridge, California
11/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: mclaren technologies mt-7 I got scammed by the white guy and his buddy in the van today right on the California State University Northridge campus. the amazing thing is that they constructed this entire scam from the ground up. They put together a phony website mclarentechnologies.com ("model numbers may change without notice") and sold these products for real with shiny packaging and the works out of the back of their van. They thought of everything.
Sucker	Costa Mesa, California
11/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Claren MT-7 Same story, just got hit off Baker and Harbor. Was coming out of the market and got approached by these guys in the van. Same story about getting spare units and I fell for it.
Matt	Los Angeles, California
11/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies MT-7 Same as everyone else was at Chevron on Ventura and Laurel cyn Calif 7:19 pm today sold me for $140 out of a white van. Rd Haired Guy named Chris and some guy in the drivers seat that looked like a Meth Addict. Chris said what would you pay for a $2000 system? saying some BS about how they are HD/Surround sound system installers and the had an "extra" one. Can F'ing believe I fell for this scam...I have seen it before with these door to door, feet on the street punks... Be on the lookout!! They attack at Gas Statons and Banks all up and down ventura blvd. I am going to pull an "Office Space" on this pile of junk I was suckered into getting.
alexander mendiola	la puente, California
11/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies MT-7 A white guy with bear approach me in a with truck and sold me a mclaren m7 home theater system for 200
Sam	Fullerton, California
11/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: Carson Speakers? Same situation as everyone below. However, it was one guy is a new white SUV. He gave me the same story about his boss. He has a shaved head and a larger build. He is white and about 5 ' 11'. I told him I had to check my bank account, but actually googled the speakers and this site came up. After I told him I did not have the money and was willing to take $150. I told him I could not do it... He got back in his car and I decided to snap a photo of his license plate # (below). He asked me if I got a good shot. I told him I sure did and that he could expect the cops to be pulling him over shortly. He told me to fuck off and drove away. Anyways, I called the cops and they were going to go after him. I am pretty sure that they will not be able to arrest him for anything, but at least they can take his information and harass him every time they see him driving around. LICENSE PLATE NUMBER: 6SLG208
jae919blaze	san diego, California
11/2/2011 Product or Service Involved: purtone surround sound white van dudes i live in raleigh, ran into the two guys in southern Cali, but i pulled out a country boy knife to open the box first. They seemed scared, so I said I'd take one, handed them 60 dollars, and told them we could go into the store and Id get them more out of the atm. so i put the box in my trunk, and went in to the atm, guess what i knew that account was empty, so i apologized, told them better luck next time, and drove off, no arguing. so I like the system, have had it for six years, only problem, its really damn loud, and my dog ate the remote. I cannot adjust bass anymore. I hope that cheers you up. Always think of a way to screw them back. That worked well.
Anton Pnub	Kings Beach , California
11/2/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Two guys stopped me at the Chevron in Kings beach asked me if I wanted these new speakers that he had over stocked for his company and just needed to get read of them. Asked me how much i would pay for something that costs $2000 I said I would like them but there is no way i can pay that much for that. After a little while talking to them, they just said what can you put up I couldn't give them what they wanted so i got it knocked down but they still took off with alot of my money and this sucks. i thought i wouldn't be suckered but here i stand as one. On of the guys looked like a hippie with dreads and the other short hair blond and looks like he is on drugs (a little dirty looking) The guy with the dreads said his name was Sean. I hope someone gets these guys before another sucker is born.
Tom	Los Angeles / Westwood , California
11/1/2011 Product or Service Involved: Crap They got me but I'm going down to meet them. Theater Research 19051 Gold West street #233 Huntington Beach ca 92648. 714-894-5888. Contact the BBB 900.00 for the equivalent of a boom box someone's gonna see me when they get to work tomorrow. :)
Corona, Ca	Corona, California
11/1/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mt-7 HD Sound Got scammed for sure! "$2,000 product." Managed to talk them down to $50. Girlfriend is not happy with me. Outside of WalMart. Ontario St and the 15 Frway Corona, Ca
Skip	Truckee, California
10/31/2011 Product or Service Involved: Anything that youve never heard of Two guys one looks like college boy, other a pot farmer, in a nice blue new or newer little suv. I am going to check this periodically. What they do is wrong and very dishonest. and we are stupid. Thats it. My money went for a lesson learned. not happy. Said theyre from roseville. Dont pay anything. Everybody hurting for money, and some get it from the scam. I will never do that again.
Jack	Los Angeles, California
10/31/2011 On Laurel Canyon and Ventura blvd, they got me to pull over flashing a clipboard, he opened the box to show me so I pulled out my phone and typed in the model name and this page popped up! I read some of the posts to the guy and he was like "man, that's so weird!" I was like "Totally weird man! Peace out!" thanks guys
James	Reseda, California
10/30/2011 Product or Service Involved: iCinema Don't pay over $50!!!! This is their real value. Anyway, they wait outside ATMs where I live. I funnily recall a similar incident about 6 months ago when I just walked away. I was bored on a Saturday night and would humor them for a bit. I had no intention of buying them because I resell electronic equipment for a living and figured they were liquidating an out of date refurbished product. I had never heard of 6.1 audio, but I figured it was an update to 5.1. The Mexican guy told me that the double subwoofer was 6.1. In reality, 6.1 is an extra rear channel speaker. They thought $500 was a fair price(the max allowable ATM withdrawal). Then they came down to $300 plus $20 for a case of beer. I found an identical set listed on eBay for $100 plus shipping, but the brand name was different. I figured this one had value because the white guy's shirt said "iCinema" on it, so I priced them at about $200. Anyway, I found this site, but my iPhone wouldn't let me scroll down, so I read some posts that said, "Total scam, scumbags, only a scam depending on how much you pay for them, decent speakers, etc." In other words, there were mixed reviews, but I figured if I got a low enough price, I'd be ok. I'm probably an exception here in that the scam lasted a full 45 minutes because I had no interest in buying them not knowing the online or street value. As the hustle wore on, around 30 minutes in, I wanted to get out of there. The Mexican guy(the showman) fielded a fake call supposedly from his boss who was pissed they hadn't arrived at the job yet to install the equipment. I should have asked why they had their boss' car, but they showed real emotions as if they were telling the truth. The Mexican guy told me he had two kids and wouldn't be able to pay rent(appealing to my sympathy). He stated he had a 3-year-old autistic child. Normally, I wouldn't believe this story, but he looked filthy(I have no idea if he was wearing prop makeup as he was in street clothes while his white partner was clean-cut wearing the company shirt). I told them that I couldn't resell the equipment because their boss would just look online seeing that it was a limited brand and bust me and/or them. I would just use them for myself as I needed a home audio system. Finally after 40 minutes, I told them I just wanted to go in peace and offered to give them each $20 because they said their boss was threatening to dock them each 2-hours' pay($19/hr, $76 total). The Mexican guy thought I was offering them $40 for the set when I was making the offer for something. He responded to the offer with "Hell no. This guy is about to make me explode." I felt really threatened now. They agreed to lower their asking price to $200. I was so confused and scared at this point that I went inside the ATM to get them the $200 figuring the set was worth around there. I knew I wasn't getting a steal. In the ATM, I tried to look on my phone at prices again, but nothing was showing up. They actually came up to the ATM doors after 2 minutes, so I knew it was time to pay up seeing as I had no escape plan or panic button. They kept insisting I add $20 for a case of beer. The Mexican guy called me from his phone offering to meetup the next time he had a great deal(I didn't realize it was a MA phone number calling me in CA. If I had seen the small text below the number earlier, I would have voided the deal right there). In summary, I feel 90% ashamed for what I did and 10% upset that I lost $200. I'd like to see this scam appear on a news station with an undercover team, but I think these businesses are totally sporadic.
Rocco	None, California
10/28/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Theater System MT-7 Same as everyone else was at Chase Bank on Ventura and Laurel cyn Calif 12:19 pm lunch today sold me for $$$ out of a Van
s-m-m-a	Amherst, California
10/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: Brendel Speaker System yup .. This seems like a canada-wide operation and these assholes should be STOPPED.
Rico	Los Angeles, California
10/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: HD Fidelity Speakers I sell these systms for a living to you people. What I do isnt illegal. You pay what we negotiate. It was worth $2000 to the old man I sold one to yesterday, so why cant my catalog says is MSRP is $3499? I made $11,000 in one on July 3rd! Jokes on you... Ive never been arrested because technically what I do is not illegal. Ive been tried unsuccessfully for theft by deception but I got a very good lawyer to defend me.
Chris	PB SAN DIEGO, California
10/26/2011 mclaren MT-7 same story white van two guys with a load of underpriced electronics. Boss took the last one blah blah blah. luckily it was only for 200$. if you find these guys there driving a white van with company logos on their t shirts, with receipt and catalog, HURT THEM.
James	Los Angeles, California
10/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies MT-7 Same story as others here. I was in LA near UCLA. Across from the 405 N entrance at the gas station. Was approached by a VERY smooth talking, dark skinned male, pierced ears, mid 30's about 5'9". Driver was male Hispanic, shaved head. Claiming to be from Newport. Got $200 from me. After doing research on my way home on phone, found thiis site and scam notice. Driving blue Toyota van with Nevada license plates. Don't be a sucker like me!
******	Sherman Oaks, California
10/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren Technologies MT-7 HD Sound so it seems like these guys purdy much scamed all of us. I got the speakers for $100 but i have not used the speakers yet i just checked to see if everything was there. i am willing to do the right thing so should i just keep the speakers or turn them in im completely lost here much help would be appreciated. The description matches purdy much everyone else but be ware of theses guys there good and if anything just say your broke and they would leave you alone
Michelle Baker	Long Beach, California
10/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren So same story as everyone else, knew it was fishy (retail price on the box), but shelled out $95. Brought them home, hooked them up to my amp, they work fine, decent quality speakers for the price. Definitely made in China but I didn't want anything super high end. The techniques are shady but I'm satisfied, not sure why everyone thinks they've been scammed... probably don't understand how to hook up a home theater system. This page is literally full of people who bought speakers, complaining that they bought speakers. Pitiful display of the average person's knowledge of sound systems. Don't pay more than $100 for these, but snag em if you're wanting cheap audio. And definitely don't buy them if you know nothing about audio to go and complain about getting taken in. The speakers work just fine.
Nick	Fullerton, California
10/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: Icinema They are now in California... Approached by a guy at a chevron gas station.. In a black escalade or expedition.. Said he had some extra surround sounds for $800 bit would Sell it for $500... Ended up paying $300. Haven't hooked it up yet... But I think we've been scammed!
flavorman3435	bakersfield, ca, California
10/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetics k-5100 speaker system Two guys claiming they are working at the new dave and buster's with one extra speaker system. Said boss told them to sell it for beer money. Showed me retail of 2995 on box. Told them could not give more than 100. They asked if that was each. Told them total. They went for it. Driving a black SUV nissan armada. Took speakers apart and they are wired correctly and do not have sand bags in them. Hooked up and they work awsome.
Deborah Purnell	Carson, California
10/20/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren Technologies MT-7 HD Sound System Sorry to say I got dupped out of $300 at a gas station in Carson, CA. Its definately the same two guys. One well spoken white guy with blue eyes and another Latin guy sitting in the passenger seat. I didn't think anything was wrong until they sped off like crazy. The white guy did the talking and followed me into the gas station where the ATM was. I had them open the box and he promised me that a TV was on the bottom and I believe him like an idiot. One reviewer said the product is decent . . . its heavy enough. If anyone catches those guys, I want in on the restitution. They were in a pickup truck. I'll be more careful next time.
TROOPS	CARSON, California
10/20/2011 Product or Service Involved: BERNELLI HD6K PROJECTOR SHYT! in my own nighborhood! these foos got me at Homedepot on Sepulveda and Main, 2 white dudes came to me talking about this new projector, showed me a magazine that looked SOOO legit! like i thought it was really true and real! well so far it has been working fine with me, so lets see how long it last, but i am definetly gonna find out who they are, i was in front of the Chase Bank wen we did the trade, so i knoe the cameras caught them.. im so mad! even though mine works fine, but to see every1 got jipped and im one of them! OMG ahha, i paid a couple hundreds dude...
Liz	Porterville, California
10/20/2011 I was pulling into wallgreens when these two guys in a van flagged me down. they asked if i was interested in a home theater system i was confused but decieded to take a look anyways.. He gave me some bullshit story about hes boss orderin one too many systems and him and his buddy were trying to make some money from it. Anyways i gave him 200 then when i got home i looked online and found this web site. I feel like a fool and dont even know if the speakers are good. Makes me so mad that they are getting away with this. I just want to go to sleep and forget that this has just happened.
DUMASS 7	Sacramento, California
10/19/2011 Product or Service Involved: Protechnik PT-80A So I was filling up my car with gas at a Chevron on Marysville Blvd and out of no where these two guys come up in a blue Honda Element. They showed me speakers and there so called Fedex mistaken order. I gave them $120 although they were asking for the highest amount I could give for it since supposedly the was like $1780. One was a white guy, about 5'11 "named" Cameron and the other was hispanic had gauges/spikes in both ears, I would say around 5'10. I hope these guys get what they deserve. I should have been smart and walked away.
SM	Temecula, California
10/18/2011 Most importantly!!! The Mclaren MT-7 SCAMMERS ARE DRIVING A SILVER OR BABY BLUE 2005 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2WD EXTENDED CAB NOW!!!!! THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER IS 8X83599!! It also has some big scratches on the side of the bed and looks like it has been used as a work truck (THE ENTIRE BED IS FULL OF THESE SHIT STEREOS WITHOUT AMPS!!). It's listed as a rental for some reason when I contacted the useless police department. (Where the dumbass woman on the phone took forever to ask me a million pointless questions while I'm sure these mfs got away.) She also didn't do jack shit about telling an officer to get these guys, just acted like another typical useless government employee leeching off of our tax dollars. Apparently and officer is going to "contact me" for a report... too late you dumb bitch 2 hours later, no response! I payed $300 about 45 minutes ago now that I pulled out from the chase bank on 79 south and Margarita in Temecula. Guys wanted $600 claimed it was worth $2000. Now I have shit in my car and $300 down. The one jokebag who got me claimed to have been from Newport Beach and looked like he was (He had blonde hair, blue eyes, about 6 feet tall, well dressed, good looking, kind of a baby face, acted extremely friendly, kept doing this fake laugh at how crazy of a deal I was getting etc.) when I asked him if he went to CDM (Corona Del Mar HS) he said ya!! "Did you go there too!?" I said no, but my friend Hunt did. I went to school in Irvine and was like hmm, I'm going to quiz this guy. He's like "Hunt who?" so I told him about my friend Hunt who went there and was known for getting stabbed in the face in the bathroom when he was a sophomore by some crazy guy (which was a big deal in Newport about 7 years ago.) He also played football and Basketball and this guy claimed that he didn't know of any Hunt and never heard about anybody getting stabbed. He then proceeded to get in my car and direct me to the ATM. I honestly thought I was going to get jumped more than I was going to get a good stereo, so I just bought it thinking that it was either decent and stolen (in which case I was still going to report him), or that they were going to jump me. The other guy was probably about 6'1" said basically nothing and stayed in the truck the whole time. He was dressed like a typical bro (wearing a black shirt, black hat with flat brim, black squared thick side-walled sunglasses with black lenses, had tats with black and colors on his arms. They weren't sleeves, but miscellaneous tats one being distinctly of a flame shape that had an orangish red in it. He had darker tan skin, dark brown hair, and nasty (need to be trimmed) sideburns that faded into an auburnish red color towards the bottom. Don't remember about goatee since I basically ignored him the whole time with the scam king in my face. DAMN that guy is good! If he finally goes to jail, somebody needs to pay his bail and hire him as a used car dealer! No kidding though. Very talented swindler, and I know he's reading this laughing lol. You got me man. and you know who I am. I am truly impressed. Nobody has ever managed to scam me, and you are a fucking badass (but I still want my money back and for you to go to jail lol) Thankfully I'll survive on the $140 I have left for the next two weeks...
Brandon Van Dou	sherman oaks, California
10/18/2011 Product or Service Involved: Brendan Van Dyck Regarding Mclaren MT7- Ok so these two 20 year old kids came up to me in a white truck at LMU in los angeles and asked if i wanted to buy speakers for really cheap. He went on to tell me this story about how his boss fucked up the order and he had a few extra systems that he was trying to make a quick buck on. His story was bit skeptical but i looked at the product and as far as i could tell it was legit and working and no one tampered with the box. So he asked me to pay 500 for it and I could tell he wanted to get rid of it fast (maybe because these systems were stolen) so i convinced him to sell it to me for 250. I went to best buy to buy the amp so i could work the system and notice that the bose 1500 watt 5 speaker theatre system equivalent was $1000. I set everything up and it works perfectly. The sound quality is really good and these speakers aren't just cheap plastic. Idk about everyone else's situation but it worked out perfectly for me and i got a theatre system for 250.
Jay Smith	Hollywood, California
10/17/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 HD Sound Wow.. these two guys were good talkers and clearly make a living ripping off people. I pulled in the Ralphs Grocery store yesterday around 4pm and one white guy in his late 20's to early 30's approached me saying he had a speaker system he needed to get rid of and then went on to say it was extra and he didn't need it. He said the value was over $2000 and said he'd give them two me for $600. I told him it wasn't happening so I walked away, his buddy came and said hey I know you can't pay what we're asking so how much do you have? I told him $100 and he asked if I could make it $140 so I did thinking I was getting a deal. This second guy was in his early to mid 30's, black hat turned to the back and tatted up. They were driving a Ford Minivan and I took a photo of their license plates it is California Plates 6GCK231. If you see these guys or this vehicle contact the police so these guys can get what they have coming.
Gio	hollywood, California
10/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren MT-7 sound OK jack mehoff!!!! Were not stupid...just your lies are really good. Let's keep a lookout..with this many people we will catch them....
Andres	Los angeles, California
10/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: Wireless mclaren theater system So I was peacefully washing my car by the 2 fwy and this white dud around 30 of age pulled.up im a brown astro van telling me if I wanted to buy a home theater system and its wireless they sell for 3899 at bestbuy?? So I told him umm howd you get them cux I never seen those in bestbuy I work there lol I was just bs and then he says ohh from online though he asked me someone across the street was offering him a check for 1000 but from new orleans and I said well I have is 100 he said no but he kept on insisting go get a hundred more amd we have a deal I just said no thanks im more interested in paying my.bills so.he left he was wearing a blk hat backwards glassed and had a gotee with hairy sideburns going.towards his gotee this I can identify him well next.time.if I see him or hopefully I do around my area im goibg to pullbem.over and ask or is he asks.me ill take a oicture of him and the vans plates or just pretend to call for money and call the cops!!!!!!
Q	santa barbara , California
10/13/2011 I was sittin in the parking lot by Fairview in goleta ca. two males approached me one in his 40s white, the passenger mexican probably in his 30s said his name was chris. They were driving a baby blue toyota tundra. anyways they went on to say the same shit everyone else here has mentioned, how its a 2000$ system and how their boss was down the street. i bought it for 140 thinking i was getting a crazy deal. then after look on the internet a bit i saw this, i now realize i got scammed. Hopefully i can get rid of them to someone on ebay if not, atleast i got some cheap speakers.
Pissed	Los Angeles, California
10/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies MT-7 Two white dudes pulled up and asked for a certain medical center located in UCLA. I told them I don't know where that is and they asked me if I wanted a home theatre system set. He said he would take the money I have on me and I idiotically paid him and totally got ripped off. I'm pissed as hell right now and I really want to get rid of this stupid piece of junk right now. They were around UCLA at noon today.
wayne brady	None, California
10/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: bernelli HD-6K Hey daniel those guys sound familiar, i think they were the same guys that scamed me, 2 white males 1 was tated and peircings wile having a broken leg, and some old white fart. well not to old, seem cool at first but now i just wana fart on his face. i just bought the HD-6K but they did have speakers in the car.... they were in Cerritos at the time, prob drove to anehiem the next day afther, if you seem those guys again, ima shoot em both in the face... hit me up my email graveofalex@yahoo.com so we can think of vengence. lates
Mark	Los Angeles, California
10/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 At a gas station, finished filling up, white guys, white van, yep, this is sounding awfully familiar. Haven't hooked up the speakers yet, if you would, let me know what is wrong with them now. Is it that they're bad quality, missing pieces, stolen, all of the above? Also, what should I do next, I'm already out the money and I accept that, but if there's anything I can do to make this situation suck very much less I am all ears. Report this, ebay the speakers, grab my gun and call Dog the Bounty Hunter? Hey, if we ever catch these guys do we all get to take turns beating them up before getting our money back? Please, let me know, I'm all ears.
Daniel	Anaheim, California
10/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli and McLaren Speakers My story is pretty much the same. A white young approached me at the Arco Gas station showed me the fake catalog with the prices and invoices. the story seemed to match up and he kept telling me that he needed to go to see his boss and that this transaction had to be quick. I bought the surround sound system for $200 and the projector for $300. I thought I made a good deal until I got home and read about it. I haven't heard about this scheme, now I feel like an idiot that I felt for it... The guy was driving a white Toyota Sequoia. Gave me his phone number as well... I am completely bummed right now...
John	West Hollywood, California
10/7/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kenetic KA-5100 I'm waiting at Bank of America on Santa Monica before Cresent Heights for my business partner to come out of bank. And some guy approached me asking if I wanted speakers, this happened to one of my friends before at another BoA so I caught on, he told me some lady was gonna buy it for $600 but he didnt want a check. He said if he didnt get rid of the set his boss would fire him, I told him $25 and he said that's too cheap so I went up to $200 he said okay. Showed a receipt and magazine. After talking with him I forgot that it was a scam so I fell for it, went and pulled $200 from car and gave it to him! Then driving off I realized what happened and got super mad! And earlier that day a customer paid us with fake $100 bills and I was taking them to report the customer to authorities but realized that I gave the fake bills to the "audio guys" by accident. I laughed knowing they got screwed trying to screw me, but I still lost $200. They were driving a white Plymouth voyager. Guys name was Brett, and he told me I owe him a beer if I run into him at a bar.
mad mom	no hollwood, California
10/6/2011 this guy totally just ripped my husband off, he said he worked for a company and they ordered and extra one, so wanted to get rid of it, and showed the original price and was asking for $1000, but my husband was like i only have $800, and he got it and he got us...im upset bcuz now we are stuck with something that might not even work..beware of these low lives and tying to make easy money..
David B	San Diego Mission Valley, California
10/6/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7, bernelli hd-5k Well my story pretty much matches all of yours, except i bought, they got me for 600. but please tell me where the scam comes in? my products work, i dont know if its even worth 600. i am ready for retribution. 2 guys one younger one older hispanic in an moderetly older SUV? we have kids to feed and families to support we dont need to be ripped off.
M M	Fresno, California
10/5/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax 5 12 i was jst about to enter my bank and these two white guys approached me and told me some bull shit story and tried to convince me to buy paramax 512 surround sound speakers. These speakers were packed and they even had price on them of 3000 bucks. i gave them an offer of 100 bucks and they were ohk with it after 2 minutes of bargain. they said they'll follow me to the atm. while i was driving, i did a quick google search and i read the reviews. thank god i have a smartphone. those reviews told me that its a scam. i shouted back to those guys that i know its a scam and i don't want to buy their crap. When i told them this is all over internet, they just drove in some other direction....god bless google and smart phones..
RM	Ontario, California
10/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: speakers I think it's the same guy. Rob Morrison. A white ford f 350 van license plate # 4V45277. a while back he parked the van in the Marie Callender's, Ontario, CA parking lot and was trying to talk me into buy his speakers. He claimed that he was vendor at the OC Home and Garden SHow and they had so many extras and his boss wanted him to just sell them rather than to paying more money to ship them back to the warehouse. He had a magazine for 2500.00. He wanted to sell them for 250.00. I used my cell to take a picture of his license when he wasn't looking. I also seen him at theHilton on Haven and freeway in Ontario, CA. I really hope the law enforcement can do something about them.
Deceived	Rancho Cucamonga, California
10/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetics Speakers and Paladium Projector Old guy named Rob Morrison with National Housewares badge in a white E350 van. couple weeks ago he sold me this stuff but when I saw how crappy the components and wires and connections were I stopped payment on my check. i've seen hbim around before and there is a message further down with his address. he lives in Rancho Cucamonga. I see lots of the complaints about him on the internet. Don't buy his crap. he's like a used car salesman!
CV	NORWALK, California
10/1/2011 Product or Service Involved: MT-7 TWO WHITE BOYS APPROACHED ME AND I FUCKING BOUGHT THOSE SHITS I WAS THE STUPID ONE....PAYBACKS A BITCH..
JD	Long Beach, California
9/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren theatre system Shame on me for falling for this never heard of this brand & sounded too good to be true I don't even wanna bather with it smh (-_-). This happened @ the long beach town cnter on Carson.
roop	san jose, California
9/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: mclaren surround sound system Was approached by a hispanic male driving a white yukon denali stating his boss had ordered an extra system and needed to sell it. Went down to $100. Did not buy though since i had never heard of mclaren and was a little suspicious. He kept on saying lets go to the ATM. At first he said just max out the ATM , i will take it.
Victim	Newport Beach, California
9/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 hd sound Speaker I am one of the scam victim. I was really mad at these people. Investigated and found their names and address. One of their group member name is Mark Antonio, Ph: (781)-249-0692 and they live at the following address. (Cornado Apartments) Address: 2120 E 16th St. Newport Beach, CA-92663. Block # 420 T. I need to know how we can file criminal charges against these fucking bastards. I really appreciate if anyone from criminal department can do justice to victim peoples.
Kris	La Habra, California
9/26/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 Got approached in Wal-Mart parking lot by 2 guys spilling the same old story about working for a Newport A/V installer n having extra invertory n needing to get rid of them. I know alittle about high end A/V equipment so at first I told them no thanks, then after some badgering I told them to show me what they had, just in case it was legit but looking at the boxes n brand I knew it wasn't. Second dead giveaway was what they were willing to sell it for, they were asking 500 but in the end willing to take 100 for a "$2000" system. If it's to good to be true...you know the rest!!!
pissed off mike	None, California
9/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: mclaren technologies mt7 hd surround sound guy in black yukon tells me his boss ordered to many wants to just get rid of it cheap. i knew it was to good to be true but i fell for it. Guy was good, and i was the sucker
Andrew S	Sherman Oaks, California
9/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 surround sound I just got scammed by these assholes as well. Tan-ish van with guys claiming to be from "Newport Beach Audio" with company T-shirts and everything. Gave the same story about having ordered too many systems and needing to get rid of a few. Luckily I only paid $150 like one of the other posters, but that's still $150 completely wasted. I'm mad at myself for not being suspicious and checking out the speakers more in depth. They are all RCA, not wireless as the guy said. Because I'm stubborn I decided to plug them into an old RCA receiver I had in the garage... the speakers are absolute -shit-! Hopefully more people read this before they get scammed... I sure wish I had!
RP	Ontario, California
9/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4210 5.1 MULTI-CH.HOME THEATER SYSTEM My wife and I were shopping at a local Sears Outlet when a guy came in and seemingly straight to us and said, "How would you like to get a great deal on a home theater system, pennies on the dollar". I thought the guy worked for Sears. Outside in the parking lot was a white Ford F-350 Van. He opened the back and inside were about 6 Kinetic KA-4210 speaker boxes. To make a long story short, after I saw his Id (which looked legit)and the magazine that showed the rave review of this junk, I gave him a check for "250.00" for the "MSRP 3499.00". As he drove off I knew I had been duped. Immediately I called my bank and put a stop payment on the check and called the guy. I had him come pick them up and that was that. Bottom line, he was a "nice guy" but the tale tale sign was the 26 gauge paper thin wire. Def the Chevy Vega of speakers, not the Lexus..:-) No way you're getting any decent sound out of theses things. Beware!!
Daniel	Diamond Bar, California
9/20/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren MT-7 I just got scammed, literally 45mins ago, 5:10PM PST 9/20/11. In Diamond Bar, at the Stater Brothers/Wells Fargo, these guys pull over as I get out. Tell me they do home theater installation and their boss ordered a extra one. So they say they just got done doing a installation over here and wanted to see if they can sell it cheap before they get back to work, they explained that their boss would just keep it for himself blah blah. So I told them no and then they started describing how good the product is. Long story short I took it hook-line-and-sinker, went to the ATM at Wells Fargo, talked them down to $600 when the MSRP was $1600 in some magazine they must have tampered with, so I was thinking wow what a great deal. Also thinking I never heard of Mclaren, but maybe they are a custom high priced company... But, thinking, just in case, I got this guys number after asking, who's name he gave me was Chris. Chris' number: 323-532-0105 I got home and opened it up, inspected it much closer and was like WTF? If anyone knows any info or knows how we can prosecute them, let me know!!
Bradley	Los Angeles, California
9/20/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren MT-7 Surround Sound HD Wow! Because of this website, I avoided buying two of these systems for 800 dollars. Thank you so much guys. It was a Grey Van - three shady guys with a great story about having extra systems from a previous job installation. They even gave us a receipt stating they are Newport Theater Design and wearing T-Shirts. They told us they just did a sale for $1,200. Once I found this site on my iphone, I told them to get lost. Thank you all again!
Sean	Sacramento, California
9/20/2011 Product or Service Involved: HD Fidelity 59II Two guys sold me theatre system from a red track. Convinced that I am getting a deal (they got one extra for free) and they need to sell it before they enroute back to company terminal. System would work but there is no amplifier and quality is poor. Company has a website but to me it looks like an evil business. They are selling product wich is way inferior then they say it is. It's pure lie, they are thiefs and should be put to jail, where they belong.
Jon	Sherman Oaks, CA, California
9/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: McLaren MT-7 Surround Sound System wireless speakers Just like everyone i was scammed!! I just hope this helps others avoid falling for the same scam. I was leaving best buy on Riverside and Van Nuys (a few hours ago 1:25pm)I was approached by an individual who asked if i was interested in buying a surround system. I said, "I'm not but thanks!" I was ready to walk away when he told me he had just lost his job because he made the mistake of ordering this extra equipment. Apparently his boss wasn't too happy with him due to the fact that the equipment is "worth" $1999.99 each(BULLSHIT) and they are only allowed to order "x" amount for "x" jobs they do. Long story short, I felt sympathy for this effin individual, since he said he has 3 boys to support and he lost his job. He opened the box and showed me what appeared to be legit equipment. I made the mistake of not pulling the sub woofer out of the box... He said make me an offer... I said I don't know I already have a home theater... He said come on dude I have the receipt. I told him well I could only offer you $200.00 but I'm pretty much insulting you with this offer. He said no man! You are not. He said $200.00 is better than nothing. So i gave him $200.00 and got the wonderful FAKE EQUIPMENT(except I didn't know it was fake until I got home) I got home and went online to research this McLaren MT-7 surround sound system and found out this is a BIG SCAMMED that started in the EAST COAST but now has moved across our beloved country! Hope this helps prevented from continuing to happen again! CALL THE COPS RIGHT AWAY IF A WHITE VAN OR IN MY CASE A GOLD JEEP CHEEROKEE 05-09 approaches you!
joewafro	Berkeley, California
9/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Speakers They came to Berkeley and got poor college students too... they are just.... i don't even know...
Got a story	San Diego, California
9/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Two guys, white van, slick packaging, company t-shirts and hats, overstock story, everything lines up. Feel kinda foolish but at the same time we got a great "bought a sound system out of a white van"story.
Michael	North Hollywood, California
9/10/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Technologies MT-7 I was approached by a white van, walking out of the gym towards my car. The driver (Caucasian, ~30) stuck his head out the window and asked if I wanted a high quality stereo system. I said "no" and the passenger (Mexican, ~30) said, "He's cool, we should at least show him what we have." So they pulled over, popped the trunk, showed a catalog listing the item for $1,999, and showed an invoice of $600 for the apartment where they just installed one of the systems. They supposedly made so much on the last deal that they could sell another for super cheap. I could only afford to give them $240 because I just lost my job yesterday. I figured I could sell it for at least $300. Does anyone know the value of this item? It has to worth something, right?
The Wiser Man	Hawthorne, California
9/9/2011 This guy with a beach outfit (cargo shorts and a shirt with sandals) he had hair to his shoulders.. approached saying that he was on a delivery from the warehouse and he had 2 Paramax Audio P-7 Theatre systems. He stated that he only had 11 minute until he had to be back at work. He thought he was going to scam me when I ended up figuring it out before he thought would. He was very slick mouthed and would make a lot of money at a car dealership. He said he wanted 500 for both but then changed his mind and said that he wanted 500 a piece for them when I said that I had money inside the house I had to get. I then went inside. My computer was already on and did a google search Paramax p-7 and this website came up. I then hit print and went back out side to really see what else he would say to me. Not only did he say he had to go back to work in 11 minutes he also stated that if he didnt sell these right now then his boss would end up pocketing them himself. I then said you must be in the wrong type of work if you and your boss is doing the exact same thing. He was quick to get out the van and open up the doors to show me the product. FIRST OF ALL PEOPLE: pay ATTN, no one delivers in Conversion VANS that are completely empty like a RENTAL car. It was spot less and I paid real close attention to the detail. No one does a warehouse delivery job on some time limit nor do they do it in their own vehicles; well mayble in crazy circumstances. He then said he would stash them but didnt want anyone to steal them like bumbs and crack heads. I thought to myself. This Guy did his homework before coming to where he was going. I wonder if he got the location through some email virus or something. He then said how much money can you get right now for them. I said maybe a couple hundred dollars. I then said I WILL NOT TAKE ANYTHING from anyone and owe them because that is not how I do business. I almost got his license plate but I was not quick enough. I wanted to follow this guy. Very persistant, slick and slide for someone who worked in a warehouse. Someone who sells things like that out of a vehicle rarely do it for 500 a piece. It was all scripted but maybe he knew he been compromised and left. It is a group of people that do their homework but the question is where do they get their Intel from? Email viruses or from people who want people to embezzle money from others. He stated he lived in Simi Valley
Abel	Gilroy, California
9/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren sourround system So I was walking out a store to my car when a light brown suburban with two white guys pulled up and asked me if I wanted to buy a sourround system with the name Mclaren thecnologies they said they had an extra surround sound system not on record. They said it retailed for $3499, which it said on the box. I asked them how much were they asking for it and one guy said give me 600 for it and I said no it was too much I didn't have the money. So I told him why don't you keep it for yourself and he said he couldn't cuz they were driving his bosses truck. So I said no that i didn't have the money and when i was about to get in my car the driver got off and told me how much would I be willing to give them for it? I said 250 and they said yeah and they followed me to the bank. 2hrs later i found out it was a scam!!!!! Fuckers.!!! I wrote down the liscens plates of the brown suburban 5dnv906.!! Bastards.!!!!
I got ripped off!!!	Chino Hills, California
9/7/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Home theater System Looks like I got scamed. i havent even opened the box I purchased yesterday. I logged onto to the interenet this morning to look up what I bought and I found this website. I wish I had known about this earlier. The guyz match the exact description of what everyone else has posted and just to add more details, they were driving a White Toyota Sienna.
Daniel	Westchester, California
9/2/2011 Product or Service Involved: Mclaren Approached in the far end of a bank parking lot. Guys said they had a distributing problem and the warehouse gave them an extra sound system for the job they were currently running. What a stroke of LUCK! Sound system is a piece of crap and this is coming from an audio engineer. Luckily, I only paid 150 as opposed to some of the higher rates some others have paid. They did show the trademark invoice and said they just wanted to go have some drinks tonight... well fellahs the drinks are on me tonight.
Justin	Malibu, California
9/1/2011 Product or Service Involved: McClaren Technologies Two guys driving in a white van pulled up next to me in Malibu, CA and said they have an extra surround sound system. I pulled over and they claimed to work for Newport Theater Design, and that they had a glitch with their delivery system and they had an extra surround sound system not on record. They said it retailed for $3199, which it said on the box. They also showed me the website on his phone and a catalog showing the system. They said as experts in the home theater business, this is a top of the line system, and they were willing to take whatever I could pull from my ATM. They put the box in my car before I knew it. I gave them $545 for the system, MT-510 by McClaren Technologies. Well the McClaren website is a joke, only a fax number, and Newport Theater Design is a BS company. The product is a piece of junk, and doesn't have 1/2 the features it claims on the box. These guys were professional con artists. They knew all the right things to say, they acted quickly and said they only had 10 minutes to unload this before their next appointment. I got hustled good, but these guys knew what they were doing. So as a victim, here is my advice. #1 don't buy out of a van. #2 don't buy from someone in a hurry or who doesn't give you enough time to do your research. #3 don't believe offers that are too good to be true. Also, try to get their license plate, photos etc. try catch these jerk offs.
thatboy	sac, California
8/31/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax IM4 5.! with ipod dock surround I was out on a trip with gf in Sac. Ca . A guy approach us in a small red car. He said he works for Comcast, so I asked him to shoe me ID or his badge. Witch was hanging in plain site from shirt. I still began on questioning him and his personal life other than him talk me down. ( look I'm a business man myself. Lol.) And it is against the law what everyone is doin, buying or selling. I ended up listening to his story about his boss gave him theys 2 paramax systems. But was supposed to be a bonus from boss. And hoe mad his wife gonna be. So i asked him how much. He says 600. Lmf . Go Fuk urself I never heard if that freakin brand. He says most don't. Can't afford it. Lmfao (only if u really knew me!!). So i play him off more . Even laughed at him coming to me. Look Craigslist or something. Lmfao. Talked him down to 200 and some medical weed. But he asked for pills since never took any. Lol whatever. !!!.. but had him take everything out before I bought it. Paramax IM4 .. looked nice thought it didn't work . I'll do wat he did. Lmfao to a friend though. Lol. But Omg. This stereo SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP. That means sounds really really good. Ipod dock stereo plug ins. And all kinds of capabilities. I looked it up and keep coming out around 3,500 is this true. Mines work and how it looks and u can see the tubes inside is freakin cool. I'm enjoying mines ............
dmull	goleta, California
8/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-7 HD Sound A couple of fuckers in a white van near the Goleta DMV hollered out their window if I wanted free surround sound system. Box says $2,499 and they claimed they picked up an extra one at LAX airport. Boss just took the last one home for himself so they were gonna sell this one and make money for themselves. Speakers are in box and they seem to work. I am hooking them up now and paid $120.
Robert	Long Beach, CA., California
8/28/2011 Product or Service Involved: iMedia im-2050 Projector Funny, today I was stopped by the same guys in California. Same white van, and the beer saying� I don�t know if I got a deal or not, but my projector is working fine, but again i just got it today. I payed $260 for 100� projector screen, the projector and a HDMI cable. I pray it keeps on working�
BRIAN N	Sherman Oaks, California
8/26/2011 Product or Service Involved: MC CLAREN HT 81 GAS STATION IM PUMPING GAS THEY DRIVE UP, ASSUME I HAVE MONEY BY MY SUIT, I TELL THEM IM REALLY NOT ABLE TO SPEND MONEY, THEY PULL IN PARK, TELL ME THERE STORY, THE WERE JUST GONNA SELL THIS 3500 HOME THEATERE SYSTEM TO SOME ONE WHO HAD 100 AND A 900 DOLLAR CHECK, BUT THEY SAID THEY ONLY TOOK CHECKS, TOYOTA CORROLA, OLDER BUT NOT TOO OLDER, BLACK OR GREEN, BOTH GUYS HAD OLIVE TONED SKIN, AND BOTH HAD BLACK HAIR, WORE SUN GLASSES, JUST 2 DUDES, ONE GUY SAID HIS BOSS WAS HIS BROTHER IN LAW AND THEY HAD ORDERS TO PICK UP ONE THEATRE SYSTEM, AND THEY PERSON WHO THEY PICKED UP FROM ACCIDENTALLY GAVE THEM 2, BUT THE ORDER SAYS ONE, SO THEY SAID IF THEY TAKE IT TO THEIR BOSS, HE WILL TAKE IT, SO THEY WANT TO SELL IT BECAUSE THE BOSS DOESNT KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE EXTRA ONE, SO THE ONE GUY WAS SAYING HE WANTED TO GET LIKE 500 FOR IT, AND I OFFERED 100, BUT THEN THEY SETTLED ON 300, AND I SAID 200, AND THEY TALKED ME UP TO 300 AGAIN, SAYING I COULD SELL IT, SO I ENDED UP SEEING MY COUSIN IN HIS CAR PULL UP FOR GAS, I GO TALK TO HIM, TELL HIM MY DEAL, HES LIKE ITS A SCAM, I SEE THIS LINK FOR THIS WEBSITE, I GO TO THEM AND SAY IM COOL MAN, AND THEN AS IM DRIVING OFF, THEY TRIED ONE LAST TIME TO DO IT FOR 100, THIS WAS THE MOBIL STATION AT THE CORNER OF SEPULVEDA AND DICKENS ACROSS THE STREET FROM EL POLLO LOCO, JUST SOUTH OF VENTURA BLVD, THEY SAID THE HOME THEATRE SYSTEM WAS FOR A HOUSE ON VALLEY VISTA BLVD, JUST SOUTH OF VENTURA AND DICKENS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND ONE GUY HAD KIND OF A CRATER FACE AND I THINK SAID HIS NAME WAS STEVE, AND THE OTHER GUY LOOKED EARLY 20S THIS GUY LIKE LATER 20S
Dwayne Jackson	Los Angeles, California
8/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli Projector Ran into two white guys in a SUV off of Sepulveda (near Fox Hills Mall). They pulled over at the gas station where I was. They saw my car and assumed I had money. They had ipod entertainment system and also had Bernelli projector. Guy had a magazine with projectors in it showing the same projectors he had for about $6k. I told the guy I didn't have $1500, which was what he was asking. He followed me to the bank, and actually went into the bank with me. So, you know when you go in a bank it's on camera. He didn't even seem to be hiding his face while in the bank. I gave him $500 and bought him and his buddy beer at the store next to the bank for hooking me up with what I thought was a good deal. Havent even opened the box. Felt something wrong when I saw the cheezy YouTube video, and the website with the phony fax number. It's the same two guys folks. We have tag numbers, video, descriptions. Should be easy to get them
mother fuckers.WHAT IS IN THE BOX???EMAIL ME	Arroyo Grande, California
8/21/2011 ok so i am at the gas station and this white mother fucker walks up and asks me if i would like a home theter! i say hellz ya caus i wanna make the quick casH, ya kno wat im sayin? anyways i am getting straight to the point, what the FUCK IS IN THE BOXXX???EMAIL ME! i WANT TO GET MY money BAK , BUT WHAT DEE FUCK IS INSIDE?I HAVENT OPENED IT YET , BUT SOME ONE TELL ME!! WHAT IS IN THE BOXX, THAT IS ALL IM ASKING!
Steve L	Newbury Park, California
8/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-5100 Got me outside of the walgreens in Newbury Park while waiting for my girlfriend to finish shopping, guy pulled up in white van gave me same story as everyone else pretty much, his name is Steve. I was skeptical but was on the market for surround sound, so I went against my judgement and bit anyways got me for $120. Sat in my garage for a few days then I wanted to look up these speakers and see what reviews said about them and saw this site was like shit, figured I would at least test them and see if they work, actually sound pretty decent have been pissing off the neighbors since I hooked them up... only thing that made me mad was he didn't tell me there was no receiver, but not a big deal if there was one it would probably shit quality, anyways people who get suckered in to buying these don't just throw them away like many others have done hook them up and try them, that is if you don't want to just try to resell them to someone else and recoup some of your losses, with some modifications to the speakers themselves they can sound pretty damn good, decent without mods...
Kii	None, California
8/13/2011 Product or Service Involved: BERNELLI HD5-K & PARAMAX P-7 THERE WERE 2 WHITE GUYS SELLING US AT THE PARKING AREA AT ALBERTSONS K STREET LANCASTER FOR ABOUT $1000.00 FOR THE ITEMS BERNELLI HD5-K AND PARAMAX P-7. I GOT THE VEHICLE THEY'RE USING ITS CADILLAC ESCALADE COLOR BLACK W/ A PLATE #6DDE002 WITH A PHONE #7202439242. WE KEPT CALLING THE PHONE BUT NO ONE ANSWERED IT. IF REALLY THIS WEBSITE IS HELPFUL WHY DON'T YOU HAVE AN ACTION ABOUT THIS MATTER? THEY ARE FOOLING AND SCAMMING SO MANY PEOPLE, ITS A FRAUD! I GAVE YOU EXACT INFORMATION ABOUT THESE GUYS LET THEM STOP NOW!!!
Giovanni Javier	Davis, California
8/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Loud Speakers KA-4260 THESE SONS OF B***** GOT ME AT AN ARCO GAS STATION. SAME STORY AS THE REST. SOUNDED CONVINCING. THYE FALLOWED ME TO MY BANK TO GET CASH. I THOUGH I COULD BUY THESE FOR WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE CHEAPER AND SELL THEM FOR A LOT MORE. THEN I WENT HOME AND FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WEBSITE. NOW I KNOW THIS IS GOTTA BE A SCAM. I HAVE NOT OPENED THE SPEAKERS OR ANYTHING. I AM GOING TO TRY TO SELL THEM HOW THEY ARE BUT IF I CAN GET MY MONEY BACK I GUESS ITS OKAY. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WAS WRONG WITH THE PRODUCT? BUT I WAS TOO A VICTIM AND BOY DO I FEEL STUPID. DON'T EVER TALK TO STRANGERS SPECIALLY IN WHITE PICKUP VANS.
Phil Morrison	Fullerton, California
8/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Bernelli Projectors, Paramax, & McLaren Technologies Home Theater I know that this is a redundant story, but it unfortunately happened to my wife. She was scammed by 2 guys. They gave her a few product choice from their car. One of them was a projector made by BERNELLI, the others were home theater systems made by PARAMAX, and McLAREN TECHNOLOGIES. She said that the packaging looked really good...Anyways, she bought the BERNELLI projector HD-6K, for $500! The MSRP says $5699...seriously?! Anyways, she said that they showed her a great ad for it, and everything looked legit, so she bought it. I was really hoping that it was going to be worth it, but it sure looked crappy. Definitely not worth the price. Hooked it up, and the quality is so bad and those 3D glasses are a joke! Cheap to the bone. Don't be fool by the nice packaging box cuz everything in it, is total crap! Beware of anyone who sells these products to you! SCAM!!!
E Lawson	Ontario, California
8/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic 4260 Real good deal compared to Best Buy. They sound really good so I'm not sorry I bought them. Lic: 4V45277
Kenny Roberts	Riverside, California
8/6/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic 4260 The Absolute best deal I've ever gotten! They rock my house!!!!!! Why are you guys complaining?
Marcus Lee	Los Alamitos, California
8/5/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Speakers Was approached at a stoplight by two people in a small suv. We pulled over, he showed me the speakers. At first said she had the wrong shipment. Later they said that it was because the boss was the lady's husband and the husband had been cheating on her so she was trying to get back at him by selling his stuff. It was NOT a WHITE van. Just a regular car.
Bill Cavins	Davis, California
8/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Same old story. 2 guys in a white van approached me as I was leaving a job. Tall thin guy with short dark hair and glasses and a guy with white blonde hair and several silver facial studs. Both were in their 20's. They were both very smooth talkers- the same story about their boss, etc. I said no to $400 for the 6100 surround speakers. They also had a larger system and a TV projector. The boxes had MSRP prices on them ($1,999 for the 6100). I told them I only had $120 on me and walked away. They stopped me and took my $120. You should have seen the look my wife gave me when I told her. Then I discovered the scam.
Bill Cavins	None, California
8/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kenetic KA-6100
Alex	SAN MARCOS, California
8/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-7 HD Sound Was yelled at by a white guy in a black ford pickup asking me if i was from the area. he told me he was installing home theater systems, projectors, and screens in homes for KB Homes in La Costa. He told me there was a mistake and that he didn't want to take the system back to his boss "Rick" so that he could resell it again. He showed me a brochure with the speakers in it, and a receipt from kb homes. Gave him 140$ for the system since that was my max. His name is Chris and his # is 714-651-5189.
Drew Gorman	La Quinta, California
7/29/2011 Two white guys in a truck approached me saying they had an extra speaker system. Got me for 800. Tried calling the guy three times and he hasn't answered. I'm 18 so this was my first time being duped like this. Anything I can do?
Isaac	Santa Barbara, California
7/26/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic ka-4260 They were driving a dark red SUV. Didn't notice the model at all. They did the same, told me they had over stock and were gonna sell it on the side before the boss did. They asked for $1,000 first since it was $3,400, then I said no and we settled at $260. So we went to a Costco and withdrew $260 from the ATM, then paid them. It was two guys, one normal looking white guy and another muscular guy that looked like he came out of Jersey Shore. Anyway, I was gonna sell it on craigslist but I just threw it away as it's potentially unsafe. Lesson learned I guess.
ITS ok	San Bernardino, California
7/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Affinity an-801 Ok. while at the atm a white van pulled up and asked if i wanted a home theatre. intreeged i listen to what he had to say. he had the whole 9. a catalog the salesman approach and alot of time. i felt like it was a scam and like these were stolen. HE showed me a msrp price of 2,399. i was like there is no way im spending 2 g's on a home theatre set. none the less he asked how much i was willing to spend and i lied and said nothing. i asked him for a phone number but he said he didnt have one and he said he wouldnt be in the area. Well being who i am i wanted to save a little and said i can spend 100. (he just wouldnt let me go) he said ok. i took it, all the parts seem to be there. i opened the subwoofer to see if there were we]ies running through and there were ].. it looks legit. I plan on buying a 5.1 pioneer RECIEVER soon. To all those people who think this is a scam.... its is and its not. i spent 100 bucks no skin off my bones. worst that can happen it doesnt work, but to all you who say they dont work then mabye you need to buy a RECEIVER to make it work. you ant just hook up a 900 watt home thetre without the RECEIVER. if you spent more than 150 you got ripped of but just take it there is nothing you can do but sit back and watch a movie. REMEMBER TO BUY A RECIEVER FOR WHATEVER HOME THEATRE YOU GOT. FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE THE AFFINITY 5.1 900 WATT HOME THEATRE SO NOW IM BUYING A 5.1 CHANNEL PIONEER RECIEVER FOR $100 AT BESTBUY. Go tho youtube and watch the affinity an-801 video. the system works.
another sucker	Costa Mesa, California
7/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P7 Happened on newport blvd AM/PM gas station. Two guys in a beige/champaign colored chevy/GMC pickup with a tonneau cover. Gave the same type of story, work for newport audio, equipment is left over from a work site. Showed me some cheesy looking catalogue which they probably printed themselves with a retail price of the product for $2,499 - it felt shady, but they sold me on it. Tried getting me for $500, I negotiated them down to $200. Probably won't even try to hook it up, lesson learned. Hope these forum saves some people the trouble. Even certain link on their website don't work....hmmmmm
Pissed in Sacramento	Sacramento , California
7/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax surround sound Got me at a gas station. Old ford explorer a white guy and an indian guy. Said the were settin up equipment at Sac State and had an overage and couldn't take it back to their distribution center in Davis. Hey made me promise not to sell it on eBay. Crazy.
Sally	Lakewood, California
7/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax My husband is feverishly trying to set this piece of junk up- He was approached at Home Depot in Lakewood today- I don't know how much he spent but it even looks like a piece of junk!! I just googled the product and saw this ScamShield with so many articles on the same product-
Josh	Chino Hills, California
7/19/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic surround speaker and video system One clean shaven fit caucasian american male (Stayed in truck) and another caucasian american male with a goatee (5'-11" ~230#, brown hair) in a red dodge extracab approached me at Home Depot off the 71. Had two sets of speakers and projection system. Had a good story, approachable and have to say did well with their story and salesmenship. I almost bit. Tried to sell me the "$3000" surround sound for $300. The fact they were in a hurry and didn't want to wait while I shopped was the biggest tip-off. I was initially wary because I have never heard of Kinetics, but like I said I almost fell for it. Beware.
Denis	Korea Town, California
7/18/2011 Product or Service Involved: Crystal Hybrid Dynamics Two white guys in their 30's were driving a green chevy tahoe pulled me over in a gas station. Very good actors, they were very believable. I bought some crappy speakers for 200 bucks. At least they work with loud music, but in the low end they are very cheap. Lesson learned. When something is too good to be true, it is. Its too bad I was on the market for speakers or I probably would have passed it up. here is their website: http://crystalhybriddynamics.com/ Their phone number is 1 (310) 972-8956 His name (or fake name) is Brent. Pot heads and look like alcoholics. Great sophists though. Happy hunting.
Tony G	San Bernardino, California
7/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic I bought a stereo set kinetic ka 6100 from two clowns at home depot in SB. They were driving a black chevy trailblazer. I read all these posts on the way home and I was LIVID! HOWEVER, I am pleased to tell that the surround system works awesome. What they fail to tell you is you need a receiver to power the system. Luckily we had an old one laying around with a lot of power(watts) and the speakers sound GREAT! Find a good inexpensive receiver and you'll be fine. They wires that came in the box didn't do anything! If anyone has questions please email me. By the way I paid $100. Tonygarcia729@gmail.com
vincent in the 916	roseville, California
7/13/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax home theater systems I've known about these scammer assholes for awhile now and 2 guys tried to sell me some crap. Paramax home theater surround sound. I got their car on video. And I have it on YouTube. At aroun10 to 16 seconds of the video u might be able to zoom in on the license plate. The title is " Paramax Scammers aka white van scam roseville ca. Or go to my YouTube page. Vicenteb86. You'll see it. If u can get the license plate send leave a comment on the video. Thank you all. Kick the shit out of these guys.
Josh	Sacramento, California
7/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-7 AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I hate being scammed. I am reading these blogs and realized I am not alone. I got suckered at the Home Depot on Antelope Road in Sacramento CA. 2 white guys in a blue SUV told me they had extras and wanted to get rid of them before the boss found out. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Almost word for word what everyone else got. Paid $200 for a system that is a piece of crap. IT looks good on the box though. These guys were smooth and EXTREMELY believable. One of these days they will get a bullet in the head when they scam the wrong guy. I wish I could be there to watch.
jack mehoff	San Diego, California
7/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax not my fault you guys are stupid....
rlc	Simi Valley and Hollywood, California
7/8/2011 Happened twice within several weeks of each other. First incident occured in Hollywood on Cahuenga Blvd. and Franklin right by the 101 freeway. Two males in a sedan possibly spanish/mexican origen ask me if I want to buy a home theater system. I try and ignore them. Then one yells out a second time, "Hey you want to buy a home theater system". "No thanks", I say. Second incident took place in Simi Valley off Yosemite Exit as I pull out of the McDonald's parking lot. Dark Blue or Black pickup truck, white caucasion/male in his twenties asks me same exact question "Hey you want to by a home theater system". Again, I reply "No thanks". At this point I am thinking, Wow ! Unbelievable. Must be a scam of some sort. Google searched and found scamshield url at top of search result.
al	rohnert park, California
7/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: kinetic,icinema,and surround sound pulled into gas station and guy next to me was driving a maroon ford expedition hybrid with florida plates. said he was from roseville california on his way to do a job and ended up with an extra home movie theatre system by warehouse mistake and he needed to get rid of it or his boss would keep it instead. so he shows me a magazine with prices and reviews of these products that total about 11k asks me if i would buy it for a thousand dollars. I start looking stuff up on my phone and thank god i found this scam alert. he was quite the salesman. he even went down to 300 dollars i told him this shit was junk he says i need to get to my next job and took off. It was two white guys and a skinny mexican guy doing all the talking. they even had invoices for all the stuff.
Abram	Pasadena, California
6/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic I got fooled into thinking I was getting a deal. They gave me a "student discount". They appeared to be in their 30s. they had uniform. They are driving a white van. They said they were from chino, not sure how true that is.
Tg	Chino, California
6/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: Icinema I hope karma gets these guys bad. Same story as everyone else in chino ca at chase bank.($150 for Icinema) Reading these posts makes me sick. These lowlifes should get a real job.
Not Fooled	Los Angeles, California
6/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Surround System Two guys pull up in a van next to my girlfriend in a Bank of America parking lot. They claimed to have an extra 3000 dollar surround system. She didn't know much about stereos and called me and put the guy on the phone with me who gave me the same story. He said, "is 400 cool?" I said, "put her back on the phone now." She got back on the phone and I told her it was either a scam or stolen. She told the guy that I though they were selling stolen gear and he claimed to show her a business license and invoice. I continued to tell her to walk away. Just after she was leaving them, the security guard came over and ran them off. I found this site after I hung up the phone. I wish they would have stayed in that lot so I could have called the cops to pick em' up. If it's too good to be true, it is.
p	Milpitas, CA, California
6/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: "Home theater system" I was at the McCarthy Ranch Bank of America, when 2 white guys (driver was late 20s, passenger was in his 30s-40s) in a BMW X5 approached me when I got out of my car, asking if I wanted to buy a home theater system from them, since they have extra from their "delivery to D&B" and "not from the area" so they "couldn't take it back" Of course I said no! Being a female, I am not going to go near 2 sketchy guys in a SUV, trying to sell me a home theater system. (Especially when Best Buy and Walmart are across the street, and I have the internet at my disposal to search for a better deal.) BEWARE they target people near banks, or at the ATM to get them to make an impulse buy!
alex	los angeles, California
6/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: affinity an801 Today Morning I got cheated $100 by two white guy. They said new stuff to delivery left over so they want to sell cheap to me. They ask about $400 and low to $100, I got.I'm so stupid and call my bought one different brand he paid $150. They drive white van, they wear the company unit form so that why I believe them.Now speaker not working.
Julian	Mira Loma, California
6/19/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinhetic KA-8100 So I was at Chase bank in Mira Loma this guy rushed me saying he an over flow of speakers and he didnt want to take them back to the ware house since his boss said he can keep the over stock and make side money since he was cool with his boss... I am an idiot he said he needed the money to help his family out and threw the speakers in my car and walked in to the bank to watch me get the money out im going to call the bank and see if they can help me out if they caught the prick on camera DONT FALL FOR SAD STORIES LIKE I DID NOW IM OUT 100 BUCKS AND THAT WAS THE FASTEST I HAVE EVER BEEN RIPPED OFF name he said was john white van i never though to look at the license plate i fell for this shit i dont even know what it is i bought
joe	fresno, California
6/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: kinetic surround and projectors I remember reading about this happening to others a while back but this black brand new black ford explorer with Florida plates on stock chrome wheels pulled in to chevron on jensen and Clovis and try to say he had "extra" surround systems from when he was doing his install today.....he said $500 and I said no but when I asked where the install was and where his tools were he got uneasy and when I took a pic and tried to Google the speakers they took off quick!!!!....2 gyys, one older and one younger.....beware!!!
Roy C	chino ca, California
6/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: KA4210 they try to sell me too for 100 bucks but i said that no invoice no deal. also, they said that at bestbuy in chino hills they selling it for 250o bucks and he offered me to test them but i worked with law so i know that if they were stolen or anything i would be getting in trouble. so turned them away. so be careful people from these people.... think before you buy and before you waste you money in to crape.
Paul C.	Camarillo, California
6/10/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic ka-8100 Speaker System I entered the parking lot near a local sporting goods store and a white guy names STEVE WHITE (or STEVE EDWARDS which i noticed his ID said...) from OREGON, approached me asking if i wanted a speaker system... He told me the same story that everyone else got, that his company wouldn't need it back cause there was an error and they would just sell take it and sell it anyways so he was just trying to make the money real quick for himself. The MSRP on this one was $2495.00. Right then i should have realized it was a scam but for some reason i just thought it was an awesome deal. Anyways, i ended up paying $120 to the guy then he went on his way. His van was white with gates all around the windows (as if to stop people from breaking in and stealing his FAKE stereo system), and he also had a girl in the car with him but she just sat there the whole time so i didn't think anything of it. I did not get a chance to write down his license plate, (I DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T!!!) but i know it was from Oregon. I know i should have just trusted my instincts and said no because now i feel stupid, am out $120, and have a piece of shit stereo system taking up room in my house! BEWARE ALL VANS SELLING SPEAKER SYSTEMS!!!!!
Manny	Ktown, LA, California
6/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: Affinity an-801 Looks like I'm the latest victim of this. Now, that I've also read up on this website, I guess not all the speaker people are bad. But I must say I feel rather played considering how they falsely advertised it at an outrageous price. My experience was with two white men in a white van..ford probably with just a few items left in their inventory. Speakers, projectors, etc. Looks like he used every trick in the book for me. Anonymous white van, rushed sale due to next appointment, targeted at a bank(BOA) for quick atm access, magazine "evidence", greedy boss story, extra set of speakers due to shipping mistake, etc. You name it. Yes I lost $300 today, and it infuriated me for a few hours when I realized what happened, but I truly feel bad for you guys for having to do this to make a living. I'm sure you have a family to feed and rent/bills to pay, an occasional blunt to smoke (I smelled it), but to live in constant fear of violence, avoiding police surveillance, the hit on the conscience for tricking honest, hard-working people time and time again. You make that money while you can, but I pray you can find a better, more honest way to make a living as soon as you can. Sincerely, Manny
J	San Francisco, California
6/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-7 This happened just a few minutes ago. I was out on Bluxome St near the Clay Studio having a smoke when this guy on a pick up truck passed by and asked if I wanted a sound system for free. I said no at first but he insisted they were free so I said I'd take a look. He parked, got out, and introduced himself as David and asked if I was from the area. He went on with his story that the delivery guy loaded 8 more than he should've gotten and instead of returning them, he'd just give them to me. He pointed to the tag on the box to show how much it was worth ($2000+). As he was taking the box out of the truck he asked if I had cash on me or a check or anything trade-able worth money. I said I had 50 on me. He asked if I had 200 and pointed out that there was a bank nearby if I needed to get some. I refused and so he hurriedly left. The scammer was a tall, clean-cut, sales-talky, white guy with a grey/silver-ish truck. I wasn't able to look at the license plate. Smelled like a scam right from the start. Beware and be smart.
Chris	Walnut Creek, California
6/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-8100 I got taken for $200 just like everyone else. I am waiting to get the license plate # from a local gas station but I filed a police report and it doesn't look like there is anything else I can do from here except for learn from my stupidity in trusting strangers at the gas station.
Debi	Sacramento, California
6/7/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinietic KA8100 Oh boy, I just got taken to the cleaners! I was leaving the bank, and up pulled a Burgundy SUV and the guy said "I know this is wierd, but would you be interested in a home theater system. They said they lived in Auburn and delivered sound systems (they had a some sort of business name on the window, like sound system something, I should have paid more attention) and that they had an extra one that their boss would write off as a demo since they were coming back with it. They had a bunch in there, along with 3D projectors. He wanted $500, I offered $300 and we settled on $375. I feel so stupid. I should have known something was up when he didn't have a business card. I think they even had a paper license plate from what I could see out of my rear view mirror. As soon as I got home, I found this sight....what a damn shame...
Alex	San Diego by UCSD, California
6/6/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-510 Basically was in a really good mood today. Just got a haircut in the CVS plaza by Ralphs by UCSD on Nobel Drive. Caucasian male, about 5'10 flags me down in his most likely rented WHITE SCION Xb as I'm driving to ask me for some help. We park. Somehow the conversation turns to him having an extra set of speakers after his delivery...yadada. Produces his ID, gives me his name FRANK and his number 760 - 529 - 6365. I call the phone and it rings, and he shows it to me. After some inquiry, I decide this guy seems legit. Fork over 300 after negotiating from 600. WATCH OUT! Details of the salesman: WHITE SCION XB Name: Frank Number: 760 529 6365 Height: 5'10 Ethnicity: Caucasian Hair: short/Bald Teeth: Slightly crooked front teeth Education: Says hes getting his GED as Palomar Feel Free to email me at mystix_modez@yahoo.com if you have any information on this guy or have any questions about the case!
Jesse	San Diego, California
6/6/2011 Hey I was in clairemont, a township in San Diego in front of sears same story , said the boss was gunna take a free one said i could profit bla bla bla, 2500 bla bla bla, well he knocked the price down to 100 and i broke even problem is i aint making no money of off it my friend copyed down there license plate number... and i will update this in a few, if i knew these guys were going national me n the homies would have went vigilante, oh they also said they are staying in san marcos in san diego county so keep on the lookout i hope this helps these cats arn't too intimidating it's a fake front they don't have heavy hands and there faces arn't rugged look pretty easy to knock out i suggest the next person they run into to fuck em up and turn them into the police there could be a reward..remember just cuz there gym rats dosen't mean they can fight all that bulk with no swagg behind it is useless they didn't have good form either. the white dude had blue eyes, white tee okay jeans, short hair like a 3 buzz cut could be light brown with blonde, the hispanic had shades on and was wearing red and had facial hair, there both about 5-11 6 foot they drive a white pedo van with a pull open side door
Grimdog03	Ontario, California
5/28/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Speakers Beware the white van with two white guys trying to sell bottom feeder electronics as high end. California plates 4V45277. do not buy the Kinetic speakers and be careful.
eric	santa cruz, California
5/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: i cinama 2 white guys stopped me in paking lot said they recieved extra equipment for a job they said they were installers.i gave them my digital camera and my last 100 dallars.im so screwed if someone could help me out there in the world. i would be grateful.these people hurt me bad im 22 years old and struggleing very hard. if you have anything to say to me email me at privatemudd@rocketmail.com have a grateful day.
El cajon	El cajon, California
5/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p7 I am the latest victim ... Got me in el cajon today ... 2 guys green van this time
Tyler	Chatsworth, CA, California
5/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: iCinema HD-901 speaker system Approached at a gas station by a white male, about 5'9 or 5'10 with colored tattoos on his right arm, light colored hair probably blonde. There was a brunette female in the passenger seat probably about 5'7. Said his work messed up and gave him two free home theater systems, I offered him $50, ended up giving him $120. White van with a cage around the back, didn't catch the license plate numbers.
stalker grl	Point Loma, California
5/20/2011 This may be what you're looking for. Was looking for jobs on craigslist and came across this postinig that sounded a little odd to me so I looked up paramax studios, and ended up finding this thread. Here's the craigslist post that has dude's phone number: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/ofc/2392707351.html
stupid	la jolla, California
5/17/2011 same story.. hit me in la jolla. shouldve went with my first instinct. if anyone has info on the san diego ones please let me know so i can try to report them as well or something.
Derrick	rancho cordova, California
5/12/2011 Product or Service Involved: kinetic So 2 fucks in an expedition at a gas station, same shit as everyone else's story. I only spent $120 on the system so I figure I still got a good deal, Fuck! Still shouldn't have bought it. But I was smart and wrote down the license plate#. They had florida plates and it was 853kvj
Embarrassed	Glendale, California
5/12/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM3 Dude Johnny (white guy about 27, 5'10") and a black guy (passenger seat) asked if I wanted a home theatre system & I said no. They ended up following me to the bank and selling me this home theatre speaker system where the MSRP is $4,399. They had a flyer with this and said that they were installers and had extra stuff and that their boss would just sell this on ebay and not cut them in on the deal. So he sold me this crap for $200 only later do I find out that it is available at Amazon for $140. I didn't need this. I was highly suspicious and asked a guy at the bank if he would call the cops. He didn't so I did. They said they would send someone around but they didn't so I stalled but no cop came. So I just played along ...hoping that the cops would arrive at any second but not. I get home and google this site and the speaker site. I think I just got screwed!!
maria	Berkeley, California
5/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: kinetic Ka-6100 system 2 guys, one middle-aged, one younger. White van. pull up in a gas station in a "hurry" to get to their install job. Have one extra system, and want to unload it, so it doesn't go to "waste". Paid $160 for the speakers. Not sure if they work yet. I feel like a sucker, but those scamming motherfuckers can kiss my ass. At least I make an honest living.
chris	Glendale, California
5/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-6100 Surround Sound Speaker 2 guys in a Kinetic van, wearing Kinetic cap and t-shirt drive up to me in a parking lot saying that they had some extra speakers. They said they were done with a trade show and were giving it away for free (red flag one). They let me see an entertainment industry sound magazine / catalog that listed the description of the speaker system. They had around 12 Paramax P-7 systems and 1 Kinetic KA-6100. I was stupid enough to believe them and wanted to take a look. They then requested a 300$ "donation" (red flag two) for the Paramax speakers. I said I thought it was too expensive so they said they had a cheaper $80 KA-6100 system. After some inspection I decided that they were ok to buy. They then said to raise to to $100 because they're worth so much (red flag three). I believed them and bought one, bleh
MEL	GLENDALE, California
4/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: KINETIC SPEARKERS I WAS WALKING ON AN ALLEY AT THE BACK OF OUR OFFICE IN GLENDALE (MILFORD & CENTRAL)WHEN 2 WHITE GUYS STOP THEIR COMMERCIAL WHITE VAN LOADED WITH KINETIC SPEAKERS, THEY ARE WEARING UNIFORM FROM KINETIC WITH MATCHING HATS & PATCHES THERE SHOULD BE ATLEAST 12 BOXES INSIDE THE VAN, ONE OF THE GUY EVEN HAVE A CATALOG OF KINETIC SPEAKERS & THE MSRP IS $3,500. THERE STORY IS "THOSE WERE EXECESS PRODUCT THAT WAS NOT DELIVERED" & THEY ASK ME TO MAKE AN OFFER, THEY STARTED WITH $500 UNTIL $100 OR WHAT EVER I HAVE, YOU WOULD BELIEVED IN THERE STORIES COZ, THEY LOOK FOR REAL. WHAT'S OUT IT HAPPEN HERE IN GLENDALE AROUND 11:30 AM , APRIL 29, 2011.................WATCH OUT. "IF IT IS TOO GOOD TO TRUE..... WALK AWAY, YOU'LL BE THANKFUL YOU DID.
Fernando R	san diego, California
4/28/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax p-7 i feel like stuped... two guy's around 30years old in white small van has 3 Hd sound system- paramax p-7, I was walking to Dick's sports and Target on escondido ca. a friend don't have theater system so, i got it for him,, the price for sound system was like up $2000 price checked on line so i thing was a good deal but, boooooo OPEN EYES PEOPLE DONT DO THE SAME AND REPORT THE WHITE VAN WITH THIS GUYS THIS GUYS... SAYS WORK ON ''PROSOUND'' AND WEB PAGE I THING IS THE SAME FOR THIS GUYS.
michael	carlsbad, California
4/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax p-7 Two dudes approached me with the p-7s home theatre....one white dude with tags on one arm n a fat mexican guy. Oh n there trainee. They were in a white van with nevada plates. Same story. Should of went with my first instinct....f********k. I hope I c them again.
CantLet ThemKnowImOntoThem	CA-CantLetThen Know, California
4/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax p-7 I BELIEVE I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH THESE A HOLES RED HANDED AND GET SOME JUSTICE FOR ALL OF YOU DONE WRONG...SHOULD I CONTACT POLICE? WHO? ,,,,,SAME STORY AS ALL OF THESE EXCEPT A FEW DETAILS...
vincent	roseville, California
4/24/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax home theater systems i was just getting off of work and just before i got to my car 2 white guy in a white expedtion or explorer yelled of of the window and asked if i wanted a projection tv or a theater system. i said no at first and kept trying to offer it to me. so i drove off but we ended up crossing paths again in the parking lot and they asked again. i said sure let me take a look. the said their company ordered to many home theater systems and 1 too many projection tv's. thehome theater systems said 2,499 on the side. i was stupid for buying this because i did research when i got home and seen the same speakers online for 100. alot of videos talking about paramax scammers. well i hope i dont run into them because imma get my $300 back one way or another. trust me ill be ready next time. im pretty sure ill scare them into emptying thier wallets.
David Kemp	Pomona, California
4/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: i-CINEMA HD5 system I was stopped in a gas station by a man with Michigan plates. He said that the warehouse had sent him an extra unit on a delivery and that he was told to sell it because shipping it back to the manufacturer was too much money. I looked at the box, it was sealed and banded for shipping. The price tag on the system said 2889.00 MSRP. He said that it was a very good system. Since it was sealed in the box and the discription on the outside sounded good, I bought it for $140.00 I put the system together at my home but it is crap. the 4 smaller 2 speaker parts are missing speakers in the top section, the speaker wire is substandard, the center speaker is cheaply made and sounds like it, the central unit is suppose to pump out 2000 watts but it is more like 25 watts, the base unit does not work, the tuner does not work, and it is basically just a box of junk. I got the license number of the car and will be reporting it to the local Police department but don't fall for this nice guy routine. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. The system may be worth 20-40 bucks at most.
Jerome Pilares	Elk Grove, California
4/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: Elite Audio Speakers I was approached at a gas station in my current city of Elk Grove, CA. Scammers showed me the speakers they had inside of a van and offered it for $800 when it said $2200 on package of speakers. They stated that I can sell it over ebay for a profit which was the luring point for me. They accompanied me to my local bank where I withdrew the cash and gave it to them in exchange for the speakers. Now I am wondering how I can possibly get my money back. The date of offense I listed is the best estimate I can give since it happened a few years ago. I still have the speakers in my home today. They package says Elite Audio.
Edison	Fresno, California
4/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax ht-81 surround system White male driving brown suburban offering cheap surround system because he is carrying one too many.
Manny	None, California
4/18/2011 Product or Service Involved: protechnik Yeah they are in San Diego now. They got me in La Jolla for $ 250.00.
Martin	san diego/mission valley, California
4/16/2011 Product or Service Involved: protecknik pt 80a same as below...2 guys, white explorer, these mofos got me with 100 right off navy fed at mission valley, I kind of want to find these fools and get my money back but Im not gonna find them ...I read something about filing lawsuit against Mike Amoroso at the local small claim court. He's been running the this scam since the 90's. His Information is on top of the page.
Adam	Toluca Lake, California
4/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p-7 speaker scam Two guys in a white van pulled up and said that the warehouse had overstocked their van with the system. They wanted 6 hundred but told them the best I could do was $300. They took it even though the sticker price was 2.5k. When I got home with the system, I looked at reviews... and it is not pretty. I have not installed them. But from what I have read, they are more like a $100 speaker system, not surround sound. These may actually be a good by for $10. Don't do it!
Jennifer	Glendale, California
4/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Surround Sound Bank of America Parking lot. Told the guy I believed in Karma if he was trying to scam me. He did, along with the driver. My boyfriend told me over the phone not to get it, should of listened. Lesson LEARNED!!
Jitender Singh	San Diego, California
4/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinatic HD Home Theater KA 6100 Two guys in a white van approached and showed me a home theater system at the back of their van. one of them opened up this brand new case and showed me the system and offered to sell it for $1500. The speakers looked pretty good with all those package and proper setup in the box with the connection cables, warranty card and an instruction Manuel. The price marked on the box was $1999. I talked him down to $100 and bought these speakers. It looked too good to be true but i took my chances and paid $100 to this guy and bought this home theater system.
Juan	Chula Vista, California
4/7/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax p-7 brandon at 619-581-4331 is selling paramax speakers with his buddy out of a van...they are in the area and i want my money back ! they got me for 240$ i knew it was too good to be true, i havent opened my box yet and am really mad because i look it up and found out i got scammed.
Fil	Santan Ana, California
4/5/2011 Product or Service Involved: paramax 5.1 speakers Two guys one white about 5'8 the other latino big and fat. bunch of paramax things in their white van. wanted 600 fore they're speakers i gave them 160 he said to go to the local atm. agressive people. and paranoid about cops. i kinda new it was a scam. It was in Santa Ana in front of El Super i think on 17th street i think.
peDOUGogics	Gardena, California
3/29/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4000 Home Theater System Parking lot of bank. Two white guys in a white van: 50ish and 30ish. Said they have excess inventory from some Fairplex (Pomona)event. Selling for $220.00, no time, gotta go, boss wants them sold! My dad apparently says no, it's too much, will only take it for $200.00. He said something to the effect of "well, you'll have to buy me a beer then". Dad pays the guys and they disappear as quickly as they appeared. The box says MSRP is $3,999.00. Granted, some set-up parts were missing such as cable, etc. Very cheap looking components and the instruction manual looks like it was printed in Chino Hills as it reads. So far the system sounds good even though the set-up process was a bit of a pain. Let's just see how long it lasts!
Jack Zhang	Elk Grove, California
3/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-5100 I finished filling up gas at a local ARCO, when 2 guys drove up to me in a large, black American SUV. The main guy (tall, bald, and heavy) straight up asked me if I was interested in buying some home system speakers. At first, I didn't know what he said. He pulled up next to me and apologized for yelling. He explained that he worked for a sound system company, and he received an extra set of home system electronics. He said that he was in a rush to get back to his work in Auburn (which is about 40 min from Elk Grove), but if his boss saw the extra inventory, then the boss would just take it. He wanted to keep the projector but sell the speaker system to a "lucky guy." He popped open his trunk to reveal several home theater systems in brand new condition. I noticed in the passenger seat was a boy, probably no older than 15 years old. He opened up the box and showed me the parts, and it looked real. Personally, I've never heard of the brand Kinetic, and I didn't think it was worth $2600. The man asked me how much I'd be willing to pay. I answered, "I can only spare $100 because I'm not really looking for speakers." He said that was a little bit low because he would have to split the money between him and the other guy. He offered to take off the first "2" in the price, for a total of $600. I was hesitant and kindly said no. Two other guys approached the man asking about what he was selling, but I suppose they thought it was fishy too and walked away. As I was about to get into my car, he asked me what was the max I'd be willing to spend, and I replied $200. He said that was fine, but said that if I ever saw him around that I better buy him a beer. He then brought out the speakers ready to exchange, but I told him that I didn't have the cash on me. He asked me if I'd be willing to get it. I started to feel uncomfortable about the whole thing, and told him so. He asked me why I felt that way, and then brought out the receipt and catalogue. He said he's never done this type of thing before but really wanted to get rid of the speakers before returning to work. I busted out my iPhone and told him I wanted to look up some reviews. That's when he got really anxious and told me that if I didn't want it, he would just find somebody else who would. He quickly returned to his car and drove away. This was right about when I noticed that the first website that popped up in my Google search for "Kinetic KA-5100" was this very website. I have been scammed before on Craigslist and eBay, and the feeling of getting scammed feels horrible. I don't know if this thing was a scam. Reading some of the other reviews, some buyers said they enjoyed what they got. But I figure I share my story. Good luck out there!
paolo	Costa mesa/ Huntington beach, California
3/14/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p-7 So....it makes me feel better to know i wasnt the only dumbass who fell for this crap. so if anyone here is familiar with the cities i posted(costa mesa, huntington beach) brown beat up mini van pulls up. 2 guys ask for directions because they need to deliver this home theater equipment. he thanks me for my help and said he had 2 extra home theater systems because of an order mess-up. a pretty good con artist. he showed them to me and i took the bait. the Paramax P-7 HD Sound. I told him i only had $50. he was asking for more. so i leveled at $100. come home and find out i had been scammed for being a trusting naive idiot for thinking this world still has decent people in it. I got his # here He made the mistake of giving it to me. (657) 203-5398 Ive got a phone number and an address....some faces need to be broken
Chris	South Pasadena, California
3/12/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Loud Speaker Dropped by the B of A on the way to get a haircut to deposit 2 checks. Approached by one gentleman before I could park, said he had 3000 dollar speakers he was getting rid of. Both guys were friendly and even loaded the box into my car. Should have listened to my initial feeling and moved on but when I got out of my car and they asked me a second time I asked how much. He said $150 for $3000 dollar speakers. I thought what the hell and took a look. Offering me a 5 speaker with surround sound and subwoofer/receiver. Just got paid and my tax return and thought what the hell. As I was getting money out some guy was saying don't but them they're fake but the guy even said he would open up the box and let me inspect the product. The story was that they worked trade shows and have some leftover inventory. While I now know it was a lie, I work in the entertainment industry and very often one of the perks of my job is that I do get some free stuff after a show is wrapped so it made sense to me. I also drive around white rental vans for work so it just didn't seem that abnormal. He opened up the box, peeled back plastic and I examined the speakers, they had good weight and look to them so I went ahead and bought em. Even gave them 160 with the 10 bucks for beer (I know, should've known better). Drove away and pulled up the product on my iphone and realized I got scammed. On the bright side, I hooked the system up to my cable box and the damn things worked and I'm not enough of an audiophile to notice the bad speaker quality. Speaker cables it came with were garbage, and the fm receiver was a little sketchy. Needless to say I won't fall for this again, but I'll try and enjoy the crappy stereo for a while as long as the wiring doesn't catch fire. Sounds like after reading some other stories, it could've been much worse. The worst part was getting into a fight with my fiancee over buying them, but she would've been pissed even if I paid 150 for a Bose system.
Simran Singh	Oceanside, California
3/10/2011 Product or Service Involved: HDMI 1920 x 1080 HD interface 3d optimize I had two guys nicely dressed in a nice SUV outside Best Buys claiming to have gotten HDMI 1920 x 1080 3d optimized light engine with 72 inch 3d projector screen for $5000 and Paramax HD sound systme for $2000 due to shipping error. They got an extra item shipped by the company by mistake. Wanted to sell me the stuff $1400 but they are in a rush because if the boss finds out they will not I told them I don't have the money. They came down to $1100 and I became a sucker for $1000 hard earned dollars. I came to buy a 42" TV and got suckered into a 72 inch 3d projector including sound system. They showed me the websites on their cell phones along with the company's information Vision Max, ParaMax etc etc.
Mr. Pimp	Los Angeles , California
3/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kenetic speakers I was in a parking lot and was approached by the Caucasian man who offered me his inventories in the back roll of his white van. He also has HD projectors for sale. He showed me the receipt/invoice stated they were double ordered items and he has these items for sale at a rock bottom prices. 1500W speakers for $200. The brand was kenetic. He also said he delivers all 49 states except Alaska cuz can't cross Canada to Alaska. Too far for the price. Anyway, he's kept on insisted me it's a great deal! My thing is, if it is too good to be true, then it is not true. Didn't buy it so he left. Fortunately, I had friend did some research for me and advice me not to buy.
Alex C	Burbank, California
3/9/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax White van Dodge caravan (licence plate in belive 6JR) 3 males, ages 27-35, CHASE Bank parking lot. they told me the same story that i found on WIKI and now im out $120.00. the guy seamed like a nice person that was trying to hook me up but i guess i was wrong. leason learned.
Blake Diddy	Santa Monica, California
3/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic 2 Guys, White Van, $200, in the alley of my work
Kak	Los Angeles, California
3/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic speakers Two men in a white van stop me as I was coming out of work and offered me these Kinetix speakers. On the box it says over $3,000 (can't remember the exact price) and they even have a catalog. They were offering it to me for $300. This was inside Hollywood Center Studio, where everything was gated. I don't know how they got in. I asked the security guard and he couldn't really give me an answer. All he told me is that they were also trying to sell it to them and that he told them to leave. This didn't make any sense to me because I still don't know how they got through him (the security guard) to come inside the gate.
Guest	Ontario, California
3/8/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetics I just bought another set of speakers from Rob Morrison. I am still happy with the speakers that I got from him 9 years ago so I was thrilled when I ran into him again when I needed to get some more and he had some that his company had picked up. And these sound even better. He said I would like the new technology and I do. I don't believe what I have read here about him. He has been more than fair with me and these speakers beat the prices in the stores!!! They come with a warranty if I need it. I just don't believe the negative stuff I read here.
Mark Marker	Las Angelas, California
3/3/2011 Product or Service Involved: Markson Concert Amplifier A no-name brand offered to me by some dude in a suit. I had just enjoyed a large and varied feast of a lunch at Jim Crows Mexican Buffet. Just as dude was pulling out the amplifier to show it off, I threw up on him...and the amplifier. He puked from the stink and then I said, that's what you can do with your low end overpriced scam equipment. Then I backed up him, pants down and took a long, steamy dump on his head. Then I topped it off with a wet tobago.
Andy	San Diego, California
3/2/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Sooooo PISSED! Tall white male, white truck, very assertive, very personable. He caught me down the road from Walmart on Aero Dr. in San Diego. Hell of a salesman, made me feel like I'd be stupid not to buy them, he pretended like they were an overorder for a company who simply gave them to him. Of course pretended to be in a rush and broke, even offered me his phone number which is obviously fake. Also claimed they were wireless. Turns out it's nothing but speakers, no amp, no other components.
Jake Stevens	San Diego, California
2/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Audio 3 idiots in a light blue ford minivan with Nevada plates approached me in a Wal-Mart parking lot and tried to sell me a home theater system for 600 dollars that was supposedly worth over 3 grand. They had a catalog and and website to legitimize the price. I told the guy all I had was 100 and he said he'd take it. As I was getting the 100 from my wallet he noticed to 20's and asked if I would throw in the extra 40 bucks for "beer money" since he was giving me such a great deal. I felt pressured and gave him the other 40. If I run into these guys again I'm going to take down their license plate and report them to the authorities.
LALALA	Elk Grove, California
2/26/2011 Product or Service Involved: pro technik 525 Dudes approached us at Chase bank. Bought two surround sound speakers for $300. WE GOT THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER!!!! Turning them in!!!!
Jay	San Fernando Valley Northridge, California
2/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-7 Thought I was getting 1000W receiver with the speakers, but only got the speakers.
Tuckness	Temecula, California
2/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P7 Well the "scammers" have made their way to southern California. Two white guys approached me in a Guitar Center parking lot and basically word for word, gave me the exact same story as everyone else. Originally they wanted 600 bucks.I said i didn't have it and they came all the way down to 150.After showing me the catalog with the "2,400" retail price, I decided oh what the hell,"this is too good to be true deal" so I went to the bank and pulled out the cash.After getting home, I got on the net and discovered it was a scam.I'm not really complaining, just giving everyone a heads up over here on the west coast.I have to agree with one of the prior comments, you can't buy something that you possibly know may be a scam or stolen(and everyone who has bought one of these units definitely had that thought cross their mind at one point or another) and then later find out that it was a scam or not what they originally thought it was and then get pissed off and want some justice.We all bought these units thinking we were getting an amazing deal,later finding out it wasn't what we had thought it was. I knew at 150, I wasn't going to be out that much.Has anybody tried these speakers??
Charles and Aric	San Andreas, California
2/23/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p-7 and 3d optics 8500 projector We pulled into Wells Fargo to cash Charles paycheck, and as he stepped out of the vehicle a white pickup with a camper shell approached. He asked if he wanted to buy a projector. Hearing of scams like this before he was skeptical, he called me over and I looked at it. Charles asked them to take it out of the box so we knew we weren't being scammed. So both of us agreed that it was real and Charles went to withdraw $600 came back and purchased the projector. While I was waiting I talked with them and they tried to sell me a sound system, and I told them I was broke, but my friend Charles might loan me the money. When he came back I convinced him to loan me the money and he went back to withdraw $200 more. They help loaded it up into are car and told us more BULLSHIT about warranty's, and that if we see them again we owe them beers for the deal they gave us. We were happy with the deal, shook there hands and left. When we got home and looked up the brands we realized that we were scammed and felt dumber than shit, and decided we should write a report here as well as make a police report. Please do not let these this happen to you, report these scamming assholes if you see them!
John Smith	Elk Grove, California
2/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik PT-59II I was approached by two men in a van in a parking lot asking if I wanted to purchase some speakers. The driver told me he was doing a delivery for his boss and Best Buy accidentally gave him two extra home theater systems. He wanted $600-$700 for it, but we negotiated back and forth to end at a price of $200. We exchanged and we each parted separately. I cannot believe I am a victim of fraud.
Bruce Barker	North Hollywood, California
2/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4220 A couple clean-cut white guys in black legit-looking audio company t-shirts, selling these low-bucks 5.1 surround systems out of (you guessed it) a white van, a later model Chevy or GMC full-size. They had several projectors and screens in the van too. All of the stuff was boxed and looked new, with the typical labeling misspellings and atrocious English that even legit products have these days. They showed me the fake brochure that other posters here have mentioned, with the listing for this Kinetic surround system at around $2500. Right. It might actually be worth the $200 bucks these guys wanted (a lot of entry-level surround systems are around that price), but likely not much more than that. They'd staked-out a spot near the entrance to a local Chase bank, I guess hoping people walking away with ATM cash would be willing to let some of it go.
Jack	McFarland , California
2/19/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax HT-80 Got scammed today after coming out of a pharmacy picking up my mom's medication. Guy comes out of a Black SUV says hey wanna buys some speakers. Umm idk? There $4600 dollar speakers. Really? Shows fake brochure. Don't have $4600 dollars. I'll sell em to you for what ever you thinks fair. Umm $300 dollars? Yeah that's okay. Um never mind don't have that much why so cheap? We have too many and my boss will only keep them for himself if I take them back. Um 200 okay? Yeah that's fine. Go home google it up and read all about this scam. I basically got them maybe 50 to 30 bucks cheaper than I would from any other websites. Put the speakers together they didn't sound bad just feel dumb for falling for something like this I didn't get to jipped but after reading peoples stories about spending up to $1000 bucks for speakers worth only $50-$150 that really pisses me off I hope they catch these guys.
Jman	Rocklin, California
2/15/2011 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik PT-59ii So literally everything I've read on here happened to me and not kidding I'm so pissed! Sadly I did buy the speakers for $200 but this was definitely a learning experience that's for sure.... oh and in case any of you think your buying legit stuff check out this website it's a total scam even by looking at the site... http://www.protechniklab.com/index.html I'm really sorry for those who got scammed but hopefully we can get to the bottom of this soon and put these guys away because i'm sure the IRS would love to get some money from these guys ;)
MrTito	Elk Grove, California
2/13/2011 Product or Service Involved: Protechnik speakers, Optimax3D projector system I was not personally involved in the scam but a friend of mine was. about a week ago he was approached by a guy in his bank parking lot who had a home theater system to sell. He said he worked for Elliott Homes as a professional home theater installer and had this "extra" system he needed to get rid of. He asked for $2400 at first, but let himself sell it fo $400. My friend bought it for whatever reason. Yesterday he called my wanting to sell it again because it was too big for his house. I don't have the money or the need for another home theater so I said no. I did, however, go to his house to look at the product. It is the Protechnik PT-580A speaker system and the Optimax3D HD-8500 projection TV with screen. Too bad he didn't know about this site before he bought the scam. Anyway, these crooks are in the Sacramento, Ca area. Beware of anyone selling anything in a gas station or bank parking lot!!
CP3	BAKERSFIELD, California
2/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: PARAMAX IM4 Dang..... This just happened to me one hour ago! I was leaving the bank and a white guy in a cadillac escalade stops me. He says if I was interested in a home system. He had four im4 boxes in his trunk. Gave him $200 and gave me his number. His name was Matt and said if he was back in town that shots were on him! WTF! I can't believe this ish!!!!! How do I get my money back?
john doe	Sacramento, California
2/10/2011 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik PT-59II I was leaving the bank one morning when two white guys in a maroon ford f-150 cut me off when pulling away from the atm and they showed me the speakers and some other stuff saying they had to deliver the stuff to best buy and they were shipped too much on their order and couldn't give it to their boss because he would probably keep it. They had papers and a "company" t shirt and they said the system goes for 3099 dollars. I got it for 200. I know now being so young not to trust guys like this that are desparate and trying to make a quick buck.
Chris Miletich	Lakeside, California
2/1/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax P-7 So I was buying some groceries at Fresh and Easy today and while I was moving my car out of the parking spot a guy in a green beat up minivan came honking at me and pulled into the next parking spot. He asked me if i'd like a home theater system. He had just come from an installation job and had some stuff left over after the buy had changed his mind. He said he didn't even know what he should ask for since he'd gotten them for free. He asked what I could give without hurting my wallet. I told him 200$ he asked if I could throw in another 20$ for beer money. I told him sure and went to an ATM. He was about 5'11 with red hair and had a brunette girl in the van with him. He saw a military sticker on my truck and thanked me for my service and told me that if we ever saw each other again he'd buy me a beer. After getting home I googled the speakers to see if they were good enough to keep. I found the white van speaker scam and my heart just dropped. I feel like a complete idiot now and have a pissed off wife, a very sympathetic but pissed off wife.
Scammmmmmmmed	Sacramento, California
1/27/2011 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik 525 -_______- This happened to me a couple months ago in September. Same story about two guys approaching me with 'free speakers' and they needed to get rid of them because they're meeting with their next client/or boss or whatever in 10 minutes. First things first, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when this whole transaction process took like, 15 minutes, shouldn't they be a rush? or have to cut the whole thing short. But anyway, I didn't want the speakers, I didn't need them, so they convinced me it was an easy way to at least make some money I buy it from them for cheap, 400 bucks, and I can sell it myself for up to the retail price 3000+! I think of myself as a pretty smart guy, I know I'm not a salesman, these are salesman, shouldn't they be the ones selling it for the 3000+? My fantastic solution to this was to flip the script on them, I would just 'HOLD' the speakers for them while they visit their boss/client, and then they can pick it back up from me and just give me 100 for protecting it from being repod by their boss. But then, they were worried I would run off with it, they wanted to collateral, I gave them 400... I hate myself for it, but money can always be saved up again. Just learn from your lessons I supposed, but my greed got the best of me wanting an extra 100 bucks but instead losing 400 when I should have just walked away.
Evan	Willits, California
1/25/2011 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-6100 So I get a call from my excited father in-law and he tells me of a couple of shady characters that approached him in the Willits California today 1/25/2011 at approx. 2pm driving the DARK TRAIL BLAZER CHEVY NEWER MODEL FLORIDA PLATES!!! They claimed to have surround sound systems for your home GOOD DEALS A $2000.00 value for $200.00 he checked it out and purchased the Kinetic KA-6100 for the $200 bucks. The vehicle was full of these Kinetic brand Home Theater systems wireless and wired with stickers on the boxes that clearly showed a $2000.00 dollar price tag. Unfortunately after a quick Google of the system I saw the link to this forum and after reading a few I realized WE HAD BEEN SCAMMED!!!!!!!!!! Thats what you get when you buy stuff from a Taco Bell drive through I guess but WOW what a scam thanks to the people that are posting lets keep track of these scammers and bring some justice!!!!! They said they were headed to Ukiah California and then to bay area so be on the lookout!!!
ramirez	sacramento , California
1/22/2011 Product or Service Involved: parramax p-7 i was at lowes today, and a guy in a DARK BLUE late model chevy tril blazer, talk out the window to me, said he has some good speakers for sale, that he worked for a companty and his boss mess up and order to many, he had about 10 of them, he said that they r worth OVER 2000 dollars, that he just want to sell it for 600, it look and sound good, i said i have $100 so i bought it for 100, i went home look it up online and found out it is a SCAM THEY ARE CHEEP FAKE SPEAKERS, THE GUY CAR CA PLATE NUMBER IS VZE361 THE SPEAKERS WORK,BUT THEY ARE CHEEP,AND AINT WORTH OVER 2000.. HE ALSO WEARS A NAME TAG WITH HIS PICTURE ON IT,
John	Dublin, California
1/21/2011 Product or Service Involved: Affinity AN 801 2 guys in a black SUV, I thought I was getting a good deal, Ay least I only got taken for $150. I can use these speakers, but this whole thread of people talking about fires worries me. Anyway to know if that's true?
Jose Alvare	Inglewood, California
1/19/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax I was in my break at Crenshaw Plaza in Inglewood. When a guy in a white van approached me and was selling me an amp worth a grand. I told him I did not have money. He said give him whatever i got. I said 100$. I gave it to him. and went home and tried to install it! Their is no fucking amp. I do not even know how to install it! So I did research and read about it. and it was scam. I am mad. Funny thing is that they were in a white van!
bill	San Francisco, California
1/18/2011 Product or Service Involved: Affinity Technology AN-801 These guys (ROB and CHRIS) caught me at just the right moment. Had a catalog with the speakers listed at $2400. DO NOT get suckered by these hustlers. Happened on Howard and 3rd in San Francisco at 11:30 AM. Black SUV with Florida plates. business out of Rancho Cordova,, CA.
Rachel	Elk grove, California
1/18/2011 Product or Service Involved: Affinity sound system Same deal. $2900 set up. Two guys in black suv. Florida plates. Jacked up grill. Hit up my husband and I at a gas station. Asking $600. They had a magazine it looked legit. Apparently the shipping company signed for two and they sent three. Said their boss was just gonna profit on it if they couldn't get rid of it. They got $250. One is a white guy with blond hair. He sounds like a stoner. The other guy stayed in the suv. He looked bald. Stupid SOBs.
Andrew In	San Diego, California
1/13/2011 Product or Service Involved: KA-5100 I have been scammed for the KA-5100 in Del Mar. Two white male guys showed up in a green van and wanted to sell me this surround sound kinetic loud speaker, they said that they were working for a company that sells these loud speakers, and they say that if they were not going to sell it to me that they will take it to their boss and than give it to him. I lost 300 dollars, and was done so because of the fact that i got lured into this product that costed 2500 dollars. these guys were good, and in the end i got scammed by these two guys. they are white, and one of them has a tattoo in his right arm and right legs, both of them wear sunglasses and just upright scammed me i hope this doesn't happen to any one else again
JJ	Sacramento, California
1/11/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Same story about the two home audio installers. Found the/a distribution center for Kinetic speakers. Address is ORKA Distributors at 11357 Pyrites Way Office #3 Rancho Cordova, CA. There were not any signs identifying the place but there was a ORKA sign inside the office, saw it shortly before I was kicked out. They gave me the number for Glen Smith of Paramax Audio who is North American distributor behind this mess. (714) 379-8326 or (714) 894-5888 One of the numbers can be found by doing a DNS lookup and the paramax webiste. They would not release any phone numbers or locations of distributing centers where I might find the guys that sold me this stuff. He told me if I wanted my money back I needed to take it up with the guy that sold it to me and it was my responsibility to find him. Thanks a lot Glen! No can do with a fictitious business name, not that he cared. I tried to snap a photo of the plate of the guy that sold me the speakers before he drove off but it was too late.
mike	stockton, California
1/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: affinity haha i got some dumb ass tweeker lookin scater kid for 2 affinity boxes full of the fake ass speakers. That dumb ass dude tried to sell me the speakers for 600. He was driving a black expediton with the grille all messed up. any ways he showed me a magazine with the 2000 dallor speakers and i told him ill give a hundred dollars for each one. he said too low, so i was like hold up. i got my homie jay out of the truck and robbed the square outside of the store i got it at. hahahahaha the onlyn thing is wen i got home i thought i came up hella only to find out i robbed a fuckin scammer haha aint that a bitch. i got some vengence for someone out there though. your welcome
NorCalDon	Milpitas, California
1/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: iCinema iHD-901 Just got hit up to buy a $2900 surround sound system for anywhere from $300 - $160. Luckily I backed out at the last minute cause it sounded to good to be true. Two guys, 1 white guy the other latino looking guy, driving around Home Depot (near GreatMall) in Milpitas CA. BUYER BEWARE.
Michael	Escondido, California
1/4/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Surround Sound System I was just about to leave Sun Valley Fuel gas station in Escondido, when a guy in a white pickup flagged me down. We went back and forth on the price and he went down to $250 so I went for it. I told him I would need to go to my bank and come back but he instead offered to follow me there which kinda creeped me out a bit b/c I was worried he had something else on his mind. In the end I did buy them The Thing is I actually like the speakers. They do have a great sound. The only drawback is they seem to stay on all the time even if the power is supposedly off so I just unplug them when not in extended use.
Geoff	all, California
1/2/2011 Product or Service Involved: Paramax,Theater Research,Vision Max,Genesis,Kinetic If you really want to know the wizard behind this Oz, or better the Brarry Madoff of this scam. His name is Glen Smith he is the owner of all these companies and more across the u.s.. I have been his independant contracter for more than a decade. His office is located in Huntington Beach Ca. His email address is Glensmith@trtheaterresearch.com. Because I have sold over 15,000 of you in the past decade from miami to San Dimas Ca. I don't need to read your stories because they are all the same. The amounts may be different,the locations may be different but they are all the same to me and Glen Smith. The products come from China and the real prize is not when you open the box and there are fake screws cheap wood and a warranty division that won't warranty anything. The real prize is when you take the speakers or projectors apart and there are bags of sand ie. P6 models. or speakers that aren't even hooked up, Or a chinese baby trapped inside. So if you feel the same way I feel about these products you can either get mad at the guy who sold it or email this fat loser what you think. He doesn't think anyone has the nuts or brains or money to challenge him. And if you are right he may send you a email back. He might just be the person sending chem trails to get people sick he might have been the person who had your movado watch reverse engineered in china. Anyone who wants to fwd this name and email address to all the states that have been affected by this scam be my guest. Right now there are people in india,china,and all throghout Europe posting this same persons name and email address in their own language on behalf of all you concerned. Florida is next then New York, Illinois,Arizona,Nevada,Tx,Arkansas,Oklahoma,New Mexico,Massachusettes,and anywhere else you feel that companies like AIG,Enrons need to be stopped.Or take a tour of his wharehouse, or see him at his CES electronics booth in Vegas this year and tell him what you think in person
kevin	nation wide, California
12/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Vision max 858-405-3111 rick-------scamming through craigslist selling the visionmax projectors I have seen his ads in orange county, dallas, new york--- really? Come on now. Dont be afraid to call and give him a hard time
John	San Francisco, California
12/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Affinity AN-501 Digital Cinema System Be careful! Same guys on black explorer was offering those speakers for 600$, but originally they worth 2000$(as they sad).
Bob Cuellar	Roseville, California
12/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: RDX Surround D-6 Feel like an idiot. They had a catolog and I find a website also. They say they do not want to take back to there boss because he will just keep. Price says $3000 they want $600. I gave them $320. Probably worth 100 to 150? It just happened and just reported to Roseville Police.
Cindy	Arcata, California
12/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: Affinity 5.1 Home Theater Friend and I are in Safeway parking lot, black Ford Expedition or Excursion (like it matters) pulls up next to us and says, "This is gonna sound crazy, but do you want some speakers? We got a couple extra free ones." That caught our attention because we thought he was giving them to us for free. Uh uh. Same story as everyone else. He is down from Sacramento from Sound Labs and is expected in Trinidad in 20 mins but if he shows up with extra systems this guy will take them from him so he just wants to make some extra cash on them. He asks, "What CAN you give me for them? Like, if we were to go to the ATM right now what would you be able to give me?" So I called my husband (we didn't really need a system, we just bought a Klipsch set). My husband tells me to pass. lol!! The box was beat up and the whole time I got that ewww feeling. Really friendly guy, though. Under 6', chubby, bald. Had a friend with him, but didn't see that guy.
bill harder	grass valley, California
12/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: affinity Two guys one fat one skinny, definetely have been tweakers for years. Talking as fast as a auctioneer. laurel and hardy. Driving a black expedition with florida plates, tried to sell me a surround sound. though it was a scam i was right. Heading towards auburn, ca.
THUAN NHAM	Costa Mesa, California
12/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Home Theater System Two white males, in a GMC SUV sold me the speakers in a parking lot of VONS. They told me they got it from their boss and showed me the magazine with its price of $2499, and said someone else offered them $800 but in check so they did not sell it. I said I don't have that kind of money and tried to walk away, but some how they managed to sell me for $200, I now learned my lesson for being greedy.
stfo	nowhere, California
12/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: anything.. STFO lol i swear to god you speaker guys out here are crazy as fuck .. i know it's late to be posting that shit was months back but I was just readin it, i work for my company and we don't know any of the other speakerguys in Georgia out of the company .. I could be movin out to cali soon sounds like too much of a game out here... well STFO anyways!
mikey bostwick	concord, California
12/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Affinity it was the same as all the other posts about two guys coming up to people and trying to sell so called $2000 speakers but they were maby $70 speakers they were driving a black explorer and they came up with a long story how they got extra speakers then they were sopost to and he showed me a paper showing what he said was true but now i now not a single word he was saying was true
Bob Laurintzen	None, California
11/25/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Con artist contact info: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12708668 Name: Richard Marmer Work Address: 6905 S 1300 East No. 224 Midvale Utah 84047 DOB:12/1965 Cell Phone: 15615066966 Email: tcvcrd@aol.com Website: http://hcgfusion.biz Name: Allan Scott Marmer Nevada DL#1601359112 DOB: 3/09/1976 Name: Vernon G Schock Home Phone: (570) 544-2462 Home Address: 33 Tall Oaks Dr,Pottsville, PA 17901-9194
Mary Petersen	Dublin, California
11/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: Affinity AN-501 LOL, just got scammed today, Safeway parking lot on Dublin boulevard, Northern CA, by Pleasanton. Same approach it is a Ford Explorer gray XLT from Florida, I got a picture of the plate and the looser scammers. One is a younger looking kid that was caressing the driver's leg, possibly lovers or they do each other while waiting for scammees. Same spill, they wanted to sell me a projector surround system, etc. Funny thing, I had a fake $100 bill on my wallet I got from a buddy that owns a restaurant nearby, and they took it. SO basically I am not out much cash : Retards, hehe! I think as scammers they probably will not mind getting slightly scammed and I figure about $100 for the speakers is pretty close to their cost. Hey if you are reading this I would like to buy a few more, thanks!
MC	Latherop, California
11/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic 5100 Loud Speakers ATTENTION EVERYONE: FOR THOSE WHO BOUGHT THE HOME THEATER LOUD SPEAKERS. YOU SHOULD BE REALLY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE INSIDE THE TEN INCH SO CALLED SUBS ARE NOT TEN INCH SUBS. THEY ARE JUST SPEAKERS.
Jacob Plafker	Santa Barbara, California
11/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Audio I got duped into buying "$2000" speakers for $700. They are worth about 100 bucks. It was the classic white speaker scam, and I wrote the guy a check which he cashed immediately. I do have a phone number and a record of the check I wrote. Hopefully this will be helpful.
tn	san jose, , California
11/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM67 Just got scamed for $1000. Same story. The guy shown me a catalog with the system worth more than $5000 and said he is willing to sell it for $1000. Took him to my bank and gave him $1000 box for something that worth $300 on fleebay. Wow. He said his name is Mario. I got bought because I am looking for a good HT for my home. Feel like an ass, now. btw, i am not disclosing by name or email. ;(
Aaron	Mill Valley, California
11/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: KA-4220 5.1 speakers Two guys hollered at me in traffic, a fat bald guy and a skinny guy with big ear gauges and dreads. They were driving a big black SUV, Ford I think. Florida plates. We parked, I looked at their merchandise, They told me a story about how the warehouse guys had given them twice what they ordered, and they had to meet their boss at a job soon and wanted to unload it for whatever they could get before he got his hands on it. I was going to walk away, I don't have a lot of money to spend on crap like this, but they showed me an invoice "from the warehouse" and the MSRP tag on these boxes was 2.5 grand. That got my attention. I made them open a box up and I looked at the gear, everything looked good to me (but I don't know much about speakers). I figured I'd resell it on craigslist or something, or give it to my parents. I ended up shelling out $400 for these things. They wanted $500. I don't know what they're actually worth, but I'm pretty damn sure they're not worth $2,500. Or even $400. I feel sick, that was a big chunk of my paycheck. But I guess it's a lesson I needed to learn. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. My new rule: google the name of ANYTHING you're considering buying if it's over $100.
Adam	Sacramento, California
11/17/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Surround Sound System Two guys in a late model Ford Expedition caught me in a mini-mall parking lot about to get in my truck. One was about 23, thin, with short black hair (driver). He called out the window and said, "Hey, buddy". The other was a fat, dark-haired man in his late twenties, who stayed in the passenger seat. The skinny one got out, appologized for his manner of speaking and gave me the spiel about how his company ordered too many of these things. I started to walk away when he swung open the back door and showed me the boxes. He also showed me a work order (handwritten). One of the boxes said, "Kinetics" and he showed me a label that said $2,399. I said I don't recognize the name. He said they install only top of the line equipment. I asked if it had HDMI inputs. He said of course it does. I asked him where the receiver is. He repeated that it's top of the line. I walked off. NEVER BUY ANYTHING OFF THE BACK OF A TRUCK. IF YOU DO, FOR SOME REASON AND IT'S ELECTRONICS, TAKE THE DAMN THING OUT OF THE BOX BEFORE YOU BUY IT! I'M GLAD I PASSED IT UP. I LOOKED THESE THINGS UP ON LINE AND IT'S A PRETTY ELABORATE SCAM. THEY CLAIM THERE PRODUCTS ARE WORTH $1,000'S, BUT THIS THING ONLY HAS RCA CABLE HOOKUPS. DON'T BE A FOOL...DO YOUR RESEARCH.
Chad Irwin	Goleta, California
11/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax Paramax P-7 HD two white males around 25 years of age in a black SUV
chris sucka	Yuba City, California
11/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4220 It's a blue van now.Tried to get me for $600 hundred,and got $200.
Michael Andersen	Tulare, California
11/5/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic speakers I was just looking for information on the speakers on google and this came up first. Same thing happened to me where two guys in a white van pulled up and sold me some of these speakers... I was gonna make a nice profit by buying them for 220 and re-selling them but when I got on Ebay they were all about what I payed. Well, so I bought surround sound... Not much of a scam, but it could've been a lot worse. This happened in VISALIA CALIFORNIA nowhere near Texas.... These guys migrate?
Burnt	San Bernardino, California
11/5/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetics loudspeakers Rob Morrison is selling these speakers out of his clean white 350 Ford van with no markings. They cost him $75 and he sells them for $300 to $400. I watched him sell some to an old couple. Told them some lie about getting them at a home show. There aren't any home shows right now! He buys them wholesale and stores them at his house which is also his business which is in Rancho Cucamonga in the ritzy area. He is such a liar.
Robert	San Diego, California
11/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: Icinema home speakers I am usually pretty perceptive to these scams, but I fell for it. White guy named Jordan in a white truck approached me and asked if I needed a new home stereo system. I initially told him no but he gave the same line of crap about having extras that he couldn't use. He looked legit enough. He had on a audio installer shirt, tools in the bed of the truck and a tool box in the front seat. He mentioned having a wife, so I instinctively looked at his ring finger and sure enough there was a ring. All I have to say is buyer beware! If it sounds too good to be true it is. On the bright side I learned a valuable lesson and only got ripped off $140.
CALIBIGDOG!	San Bernardino, California
11/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic, fuck a white van! Wow bigdog a lot of hostility in your typing there big guy. You chose to buy a surround sound for $300, you made a purchase, you got your money back! To say you'll gun down the next person you see selling is a big statement. There is over 2,000 sales of home theaters on the streets of Cali daily. There are different brands as well, some guys sell poor quality, mid grade quality, and guys like me who sell the best. Were you upset because you read something online about the product kinetic? Kinetic is a mid grade quality, for $300 you didn't get jacked, you even got your money back. Had you of kept the system, I'm sure you would have felt you received your moneys worth, then some. But for you to come on here and say you'll gun someone down who had nothing to do with your purchase, when the other guy even gave you a refund is beyond fucking stupid. We sell a real product, a good product, some of us a great product. I fucking hate stupid motherfuckers like you, you pussy fucking faggot bitch made take it in the ass nigger flea! You got a refund and you still threaten us, fuck you, your mom, and your dead homies nigger, fuck you slob ass cock sucker. I hope I see you and you reach, I'm going to throw a severe beat down on you nigger! This is a sales job! If you want to fuck someone up, fuck up the people who make it, not the people who sell it! Were out making a living and dealing with niggers like you, the shit isn't that easy, because your a cry baby pussy! You want to knuckle up knuckle up, a shoot out lol nigga you aint got no guns fool you aint no g dog, this bompton not compton pyru 4 life nigga, my nigger slang for the night! This white boy crazy is what youre going to say if you ever lay your worthless toad eyes on me punk, then I'm going to fuck you with your own strap nigger!
bigdogg	san bernardino, California
10/29/2010 Product or Service Involved: kinetic loudspeaker I went through the same experience as others before me. White male in his forties in a white van sold me some crap system for $300. Here is where my story turns, I trackedd the bastard down the next day scared the shit out of him and got my fucking money back. If I ever see another salesman of that cheap crap I'm gunnin them down and leaving they ass on the pavement. I wish all you crab ass mfs would commit suicide and stop fuckin people over
sean	Truckee, ca, California
10/28/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4220 Assholes got me too! These guys were highly experienced. got me while stopping for lunch at Bills rotisure.they pulled up next to me in a black expedition w/gold trim, and a florida licence plate. Told me they were electritians on a lunch break on their way to reno, and had two extra home theaters worth $2,500.I said i didn't need one. They said they hate their boss and would rather hook someone up like me. it sounded as if they just were going to give them to me. They got me out of my car looking at them, then showed me some magazine with pictures and a $2500 price tag. then asked me to make an offer. i told them $150. they said no. then as i was walking away the one guy jumpedout of the car and threw one of the stereos in the back of my truck with a big smile. like you got the deal of the year! i very timidly open the box and looked at the speakers which seemed fine.(not $2500 dollars worth?)but fine. i gave hime the money and got ripped off. wish i had punched him in the face, and spent that money on my family. one 25 yr old white guy on speed, and a very nice 45yr. old white/hispanic. said their from roseville.
Roberto Garcia	Los Angeles, California
10/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: IM3 Paramax Ipod docking station, 5 speaker surround sound.
MOISES CALDERON	Latherop, California
10/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic 5100 Loud Speakers I just got ripped off because I just bought something that later on I could sell them and have extra money. Ok, I was at a gas station in Latherop, CA at Latherop Road off ramp on 99 south. After I was done pumping my gas and was ready to get in my car I see these two dudes who said that they were working for company and they didn't want to take the extra speakers and I end up buying them for 300 bucks and they were very convincing of selling them. I just realized that the person in front of the SUV was actually filling out a receipt to show that it was given to them to deliver. What was another way that was convincing was a magazine and showed me the price on the box as well. I never heard of them until I got home and I'm just going to give them away as a gift. Happy Birthday to those two for my 300 dollars and happy new year.
Annonymous	West LA, California
10/1/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p512 Ive been reading the posts on this site, i got scammed by them too, one of them is named Brian darney his number is 425 647 8919 and he is from washington, his buddy(forgot his name) and him drive a big white SUV. Give him a piece of your mind....
Same Here in San Bernardino, California	Upland, California
9/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4210 At a gas station in eating when I was approached, but have the same story as the the rest. I should have listened to the kids. I donated $100.00 in cash & put a stop payment on the check. Hopefully, the check is stopped before the person cashes it.
Emily	Manhattan Beach, California
9/3/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax im3 2 guys in gold SUV approached me in the Noah's parking lot off Rosecrans asking if i wanted a surround sound system. I said I didn't need it. They used high pressure sales tactics and I ended up giving in and buying it for $200. (supposed MRSP $4000). They told me they were audio/media installers and were trying to make some money on some extra systems they got from the company. I wish I would have googled the company "paramax" from my iphone!! I got home and googled it and found out it is a scam.
J	Capitola, California
8/27/2010 Product or Service Involved: iCinema i-HD20 grey van outside bank of america on 41st in Capitola. Payday friday. @ guys, driver late 20's, passenger who I spoke with, Jeff, late 40's. Smooth talker. Showed me a couple of boxes, said it was leftover from an electrical job. And I fell for it. Yep I'm a dummy. $200 for a product that they sell for over $3100. That should of told me the whole story right then and there. Paid cash and never saw them again once I started to think about it.
Cow Hatered	Sout Bay, California
8/25/2010 Product or Service Involved: You're Box's Cowboy U sun, r a GAY GOWTE GUY,,,,,
selluot	everywhere, California
8/21/2010 Product or Service Involved: speakers thanks jampiece good seeing up in gods country it was a pleasure double grand flat boxes people love me n they always will i feel sorry for you having to work around a bunch of liars n losers people always have the best when they cant prove it i dont worry about all the lies on here from other want to be speakerguys anytime you want to come hangout n have a few drink's by my pool come on and then we can go make 850 with passive's n a day. lol dfwspeakerman fuck all u hater's stfo
Straight GREATNESS	The Sell Out Route!, California
8/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Best Product Ever! Yo Yo! 700 each today!! I wonder if a guy that sells passives, knows what it is like to pull 5 g's off a buyer!? BOOM! The best team on the streets, STRIKES AGAIN! BEST PRODUCT + BEST MOJO + GREAT ATTITUDE = MOST MONEY! Reading these posts below me, I think it is obvious who I side with. Hmm, I wonder if they make a Passive Projector for 2 bit Nigger Crackheads like DFW!? Sell The Mutha Fuck Out Speakermen!!!!!!! It's out there everyday! You just gotta find it! Straight GREATNESS! ~ AKA The Equal Opportunity Duck Slayer! ~
Dont worry	USA, California
8/13/2010 Product or Service Involved: ANY OF EM Any other speakermen remember when this was just a nice place you could come home to smoke a blunt and laugh at the ducks that got slammed for huge. All of a sudden its a bitching match. We're all on the same team here. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we sold to who as long as we make that money. Get off the computer and back in a van. It doesn't matter if you're selling passives, powereds, projectors, or even a fucking rock in a box. If you are doing it right it's gonna get us all rich. The ones that are pissed are the ones not making that extra 15 dollars a set or whatever the fuck it is that makes the vendors push powereds so much. All the vendors know that when we are on our top game we are going to sell as much as we are going to sale and thats it. They profit more when they get us sold on some a gimmick. ITS POWERED!!! IPOD DOCK!!! HDMI!!! WIRELESS!!! all that says is Cha-Ching. And some of us need that shit to feel confidence in ourselves. Fuck it, you get your PMA your way and I'll get mine my way.I dont need gimmicks. All I need is that price tag. Because all they buy it for is the deal. Word. Props to DFW on that double grand passive monday when we powered up. -Jampiece
Squasher Of Fleas	OWNING, California
8/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: DFW Passive Manginas "sellout"... LOL... What a farce of name. You talk about people being dumb fucks? You are the most illiterate, dick riding, broke ass, dab the tip of the weiner off with a baby wipe, before you insert it in your pussy, NEG fuckin poor excuse for a speakerman, I HAVE EVER read a post from!! AND that is saying something, considering all the assclown-ish broke, bitch made, wannabe hustlers that try to come on here and act tough... Dude, (and I use that term loosely) Your fuckin' posts are work to even read! ALL the extra ' ,'s... WTF are you doing?? You act like you took 16 and a half hits of crack, dropped a single 120,(And gave head on the deal) drove your beat up ass van to your mom's house, ate some of mom's good ole' low budget, Chef Boyardee Beefaroni, and plopped your mark ass in front of a computer and tried to type something, with a dick in your eye! It's obvious a dick must be in your eye, because it's even more obvious you can't read... NOBODY in their right fuckin mind would ever be caught dead, or with a dick in their eye, writing or typing something so ignorant! Open your eyes, excuse me... PULL THAT DICK OUT OF YOUR EYE and look at the big picture!! Thousands of frog backs are being dropped in these streets for product! You have no idea what big business is... You will always be a dude lying to old ladies and saying you have extras! I am not going to try to open your eyes, Down For Weiner, it is a losing battle... Once a flea, ALWAYS a flea!! Keep your passive systems bitch, because when I run into you out in the streets, I will KNOW who it is!! I have put more time and effort into running a company and having numerous offices and a hundred guys working under me! But when I see that flea in the streets, pushing passive shit, lying to pathetic old women, and sucking moon cricket dick to get a $120 sale and 3 cds on a deal, I will be putting time and effort into banging your mangina!!! Don't worry flea, it won't be passive... I BRING THE POWER!!
Straight GREATNESS	ALL, California
8/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: Best Box In The Streets! Yo Yo... Dropped a clutch single 8 today! Bringing the fire at all costs! Best product and best team to ever hit the streets, BAR NONE!! Sell The Mutha Fuck Out Speakermen!!!!!!! It's out there everyday! You just gotta find it! Straight GREATNESS!
sellout	everywhere, California
8/11/2010 Product or Service Involved: speaker's soldout many time's, you are a dumb fuck, you have too use power set's, use them, your shit is trash, that is the reason you say and do what you do, you can have all them dumb fucking, cock sucking speakerguy's office's you want, but really when have you trained anyone or your fucking speaker guy's hit back to back 40's on a reg's, say what you want, been there, done that, so now when your working them long hour's, raising someone else's kid's, barly getting by, get you some passive's and make some real money faggot. DFWSPEAKERMAN
Soldout many times!	United States, California
8/7/2010 Product or Service Involved: DFW speakerflea! The snitch of all snitches! DFW=Dumb Fucking Wimp! You weak minded low budget, flea of a speakerman, gout bitch! For many years I've sold home theaters on the streets. I speak for all real speakerman out there. You are the most uneducated, piece of shit, cock sucking homo, I've ever had the pleasure of shreading on this form. Your posts here on scamshield make me sick. Mr.DFW=DownForWiener, the average sale for you is $200 with passives? $200 hmmmmm? What do you average a day? 5 sets at $150 profit each sale? You said your average sale is $200 correct? So a baller like you makes $3,750 a week correct? Fuck no you don't. Your average sale is $100, your profit is less than $40 per sale! You make less than $1,000 a week. Nothing worse than a flea who has to lie to old ladies saying his passive set is a wireless powered system. Do yourself a favor and suck on some cold steel bitch! Things you have=a beat to shit van, a room at your parents house, a small mind. Things you don't have or own= House, car, a bank account, multiple bank accounts, a credit card, a credit score, a place to call your own, an education, kids, the charisma to wreck a duck for a double two grand. Back to the point, before you go dissing somebodys product due to your lack of intelligence, try thinking a bit bigger, think outside of your weed pipe. Put the joint down! That is unless you want to be 50 years old selling passives for $100, broke, bald, fat, and even dumber than you are now! Try taking a powered system and a projector out. Pitch it at $2,000 and see what happens. Do that for the next month, calculate your average sale, I guarantee there will be a difference in your worthless life. I just gave you the biggest trick of the trade. Use it for what it's worth. For myself and my sell out crew, it's worth over $4,000 a week in profits a piece. Use your head the next time you write something on here. I've made $105,000 with five months left in the year!
john hendrickson	LA, California
8/5/2010 Two jersey-shore looking guys asked me if I wanted to buy a home theater system because they had too many. They made up some bullshit about how they ordered too many. I looked at the system in the truck and could easily see that the speakers were pieces of crap. He man said they were $1000 systems, and right from there I knew it was a scam. They wanted $600 for it. I picked it up for $100 just to see what it was. Turns out it was a scam. The speakers work, but not worth more than $50.
sellout	everywhere, California
8/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: speakers CRYSTAL speakers, you come on this website to advertise your trash, come on, talking about you have the best speaker product, be serious, crystal speaker's still come up SCAM, when you GOOGLE them, you talk like the speak's you have are the best, you got my attention when you started talking shit about people who buy passive set's, passive is the way to go, I pay way less money for them, sell them for huge, make way more profit, if you need powered system's to make big money, than spend that extra money and buy you some, but the people in the street's can only give you so much money, the average sell out there is two hundred dollar's, you can take your powered system's, and stick them up your a$p, and i'll take my extra money from my passive's and go buy me a house or a car. what's up jampiece. holla DFWSPEAKERMAN
Crystal	Everywhere, California
7/28/2010 Product or Service Involved: Crystal Home Theater Dave Chuang � CEO HI-TECH PRO ELECTRONICS, INC. 14910 E. Nelson Avenue City of Industry, CA 91744 Tel. (626) 575-1010 Fax (626) 855-1010 Cell (626) 475-1010 to all speakermen accross the country.. Wholesale supplier here with the best product. Long time speakerman, I.C., sales manager, manager, owner, supplier.. I know the streets! We have developed the best product by far, hands down. If you're sick of getting ripped off by suppliers with refurbished, gout crap, then contact us! If you're a passive set type of flea, don't contact us. If you don't care about what you sell, don't contact us. This product is for us speakermen who make $5,000 a week, or for us who have goals, ambitions, care about what we sell, beasts in the box game! We have designed the ultimate products, ultimate projectors, true 1080p projectors, true HDMI and ipod dock systems, true heavy speakers without fake medal bars in them. Every warranty is valid. Awesome website, no neg shit on the net. These systems have three years of teamwork to bring us speakermen the best product. Now you will want to open the box to show ducks what they're getting. You can ask for a $1,000 every show and be confident. Bottom line all of our lives will change for the better. Contact bestspks4cheap@yahoo.com. If you are a player in this game, contact us asap. You will like what we have guaranteed. Best product to ever hit the streets!!
Heather	San Diego, California
7/27/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax im3 digital fusion My dumb ass husband got scammed by these guys in the Walmart parking lot (go figure) on Aero Drive in San Diego. He ate up the bullshit story of left over equipment from a job site and when shown the msrp of $4,399, he couldn't refuse. He also had the retarded idea of selling it on e-bay and making a killing, yet it sits in my den collecting dust. Luckily, he only paid $120. Can somebody please catch these assholes????
CU	Concord, California
7/27/2010 Product or Service Involved: Affinity Technology Affinity Technology Digital Cinema System www.affinityhomecinema.com for the description Two nice white guys in a black van, florida license plate, sold me the an-801 system. I feel embarrassed and stupid for falling for such a scam. They are worth about $50, not $2499. I read that any box that has the MSRP listed should be considered a scam.
Nick	Granite Bay, California
7/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: Affinity AN 801 Speaker System I just got off work and was walking to my car in the parking lot when a blue SUV was driving through the parking lot and asking people if they wanted to buy stereo equipment. When they asked me I was interested since I like music. When I looked at the product for sale they showed me a brochure of the item and it's valued at over $2500. They wanted to sell it for $500. I said $200, and they said never mind. Then as I was walking away the guy said okay, $260. After they drove off with my $260 they must have been laughing since this stereo ended up being a complete piece of crap. It's a complete scam. Don't ever buy from people in parking lots.
daniel	hawthonre, California
7/23/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM3 Digital Fusion Man after reading all these notes i feel like an idot i gave the guy 120 for the whole damn thing i should be happy but damn i didnt even get paid that much this week i havent well i havent hook it up but after reading all these stories nobody really say what wrong with them beside its missing an ampfler but i already have it so what do i do now? can i retunr it to the manufactor and get money back for it what can i do?
john	CONCORD, California
7/16/2010 Product or Service Involved: affinity technology THE ARE IN THE BAY AREA NOW 2 WHITE GUYS RIDING AROUND IN A BLACK TRUCK SCAMMING PEOPLE FOR PIECE OF SHIT SPEAKERS. THEY GOT ME IN CONCORD. ONE FAT BALD DUDE ON SPEED..THEY WNATED 600 AND I OFFERED 300 AND THEY TOOK IT. NICE KARMA!! I HOPE THEY DONT HAVE KIDS!!!! ITS ACTUALLY A BIT FUNNY!!
richard camacho	maywood, California
7/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: paramax home theater They got me for 16 hundred one of them is in east l.a 3rd st sheriff station please call them and let them know if you have more people that got scamed by these people they were working out of home depot in huntington park California now one is in sheriffs station thanks
Gloria Jeannette Sosa	Culver City, California
7/13/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-4220 5.1 Home Theater Young white male around his early 30's driving a white van approach me in the parking lot of a Chase branch in Culver City (Hughes & Washington) and began to sell me a Home Theater for $800.00 dollars I said no thank you and walked away. As I was walking out of the bank the white male was showing the police officer some documents. I should have walked away but since the officer let him go, I figure that his paper work was in order. I bought a Kinetic KA-4220 5.1 Home Theater for $80.00 dollars, that's all I had with me. I am glad I did not give him any more money. This should teach all of us that a good deal outside Best Buy or any other retail store are not worth it. I hope that they get stopped!!!!!!!!! I have gone back to the area and if I find him I going to beat him with his stupid system over the head. I'm sorry to the folks that paid over $100.
Martha Cohen	Brea, California
7/2/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax im3 My husband fell for this scam in Brea the other day. Guy approached him in a mall, told him the sound system was worth $4,000 and he would sell it for, like $800, and he really needed the money. My husband, thinking maybe this was some high-end audiophile brand he hadn't heard of (I do have a Parasound receiver, which is a high end brand), bought it for me. Saw it in his car today and said, well, we can put it in the bedroom, we don't have a surround sound system there ... then found this site (and one for Florida too), which has had us cracking up. I hate wasting money, but luckily the $300 won't break us. I am loathe to set it up, tho. You can get a simply Sony system for $300. And I see that you can't resell it on Craigslist -- all the postings have been flagged for removal!
Jason Quesnoy	Culver City, California
6/24/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax IM4 I was in the Culver City Best Buy parking lot and a guy calling himself Matt Marquette (he gave me his phone number which is probably fake: 424-903-5302) pulled up to me in a black Escalade or something similar like a Tahoe. He asked if I wanted a really good deal on a home theater system. As he was showing it to me, he noticed some cops around and quickly closed the tailgate, saying he just didn't want to have to explain the situation again. Gee I wonder if I should have just left at that point. I'm so stupid. He then showed me a bunch of official looking documentation and packaging slips and order receipts, etc. He even had a catalog to show me how much the system normally retailed for. He also said you needed a special commercial tax I.D. to purchase from his company which was something like "LA sound Division" or something. He then said he was just hoping to get about $250 for them because otherwise his boss would get them. I asked him why he just didn't take them home to his house. He gave me some runaround answer and like an idiot, I went with it. We then went to an atm inside the local Ralph's and I paid him. He then gave me his name and number. I have since tried the number, and it does work??? I'll try to reach him tomorrow. He then said I'd have to buy him a beer some time for giving me such a great deal.
Brandon	Eureka, California
6/14/2010 Product or Service Involved: Paramax p-509 So this guy pulls me aside when im driving down the 101 here in Eureka and asks me if i wanted to buy some real nice audio equipment at a real cheap price. so he gives me the same talk as everyone else and made a real nice little presentation on how nice they are. he was driving a greyish tahoe with Oregon plates. i gave the guy $200 for one, then went home. right after i opened the box to check it out, i decided to look it up. thats when i found out it was a scam. the guy gave me his phone number to "hang out" sometime. i cant wait to see if hes really dumb enough to give me his real phone. but man i feel stupid for spending $200 on this crap. i havent even taken it out of the box yet either.
HEY MATT:	How to install KA 6100, California
6/13/2010 Just wanted to tell you how I hooked up my KA 6100. This is a passive surround sound system. You have to use a 5.1 receiver. Connect the two front speakers to FL, FR inputs on your amp. Connect the two rear speakers to RL, RR inputs on your amp. Connect the cent channel speaker to the C input on your amp. Connect the subwoofer to the SUB input on your amp. Then, you'll need to set the levels (-10 to +10) through your amp depending on your listening preference for all speakers. This is the hardest part, as you have to listen to what sounds right. Usually your front speakers will be set to the same levels... Same for rears. The center and sub will be different. When this is all tweaked properly, the system should should pretty good. Also, don't forget to set the bass and treble to acceptable settings. You could google "how to setup a passive surround sound 5.1" or something similar. Hope this helped.
Big Buyer	Yuba City, California
6/11/2010 I got slam dunked in Yuba. Fun way to buy. Haven't hooked it up but mine look SICK.
Angel	San Fran (South Bay), California
6/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Parliament I bought two 5.1s. $600. I didn't like one and the guy swapped it out. Shawn is OK in the CA area. Traded the 5.1 for two tower speakers and I'm using it all together.
T	San Diego, California
6/10/2010 They are still around SD.
Jason V.	U NEED TO READ THIS, SACRAMENTO, California
6/10/2010 ok check this out... the last message i sent was a lie... i didnt punch him in the face or take anything from them... they are still a crap ass company and didnt pay me a dime... forget these people.
John K.	Sacramento, CA, California
6/10/2010 I bought them in Sac for $450 and they work well. I was happy about everything until reading here. If they hold up I'll be happy, they sound better than my 2005 Klipsch surround sound. They have an amplifier, reciever and 5 speakers. I don't know what to believe and wish I knew more but am still happy with MY purchase. Hope yours works out OK too.
Jason V.	U NEED TO READ THIS, SACRAMENTO, California
6/9/2010 Product or Service Involved: Independent Contractor??? i just quit this job... i was only training for 3 days and i Quit... the address in Rancho Cordova on Pyrite is the right address... u just have to be there between 9-9:30am to catch them before they leave to work and from 6-6:30pm when they get back... i was promised $40 a day while i was on training but i quit because i was getting a really bad vibe... they never paid me... they told me i was a waste of money and i didnt finish my training so they werent paying me shit... i punched paul in the face for the way he was talking to me and not paying me and then walked out to my car with my own system... i needed to get paid some how... CHRIS(CK)KELLY and PAUL are the biggest pieces of shit ever... ALEX AND LUKE R COOL BUT THEY ALL CAN GO FUCK THEM SELVES
Kelly	San Diego, California
6/7/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kenetic So my boyfriend bought these kenetic 6100 speakers with the sub just outside my work on Mission Gorge Road across from the Toyota dealership. After he bought them he got really upset and worried. We got home and looked them up and found out this was a "scam" So were reading through this scam website, and we realized that NO ONE had set them up yet!!! HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S A SCAM IF YOU HAVEN'T SET THE SPEAKERS UP YET?! Obviously if these ppl were stupid enough to fall for the scam, they're stupid enough to think it's a scam before they even use the product.... Yes I think my boyfriend was stupid for buying speakers for $120 off the street from a white van. So we set them up, and they work WONDERFUL! So if you run into these guys and you want to buy a new surround system, go ahead, but talk them down! I'm sure if you walk away after offering $100, they'll sell them to you!! Just make sure you know how to set them up and you have a good amplifier!
Jason	Hayward , California
6/4/2010 Product or Service Involved: Acoustic Monitor Speakers In reading the postings below, a common theme is "these guys finally made it to California" Folks, this has been going on in California for a VERY long time. How do I know? Until a crisis of conscience, I sold these speakers out of a "white van" company based in Hayward, CA. back in 1987. It was a remarkably lucrative job, never had problems with the cops (very little they can really do aside from ticketing for selling without a vendor's permit). Do a Wikipedia search under "white van speaker scam" to see how long-running and pervasive this operation is. Did it for a little over a year, when I really started having problems looking at myself in the mirror. That being said, this scam works like most others, and is driven by a sense of greed on the part of the buyer, who in most cases, believes that he ir she is buying what really amounts to being stolen property.
Joel J.	Escondido, California
5/29/2010 Man in truck outside of Vons grocery store said his clients ordered one too many speakers and he was trying to get rid of this set of DV-7010 Divinci speakers. I bought them for $300 and then found out about this scam when I got home.
Matt	Fontana, California
5/26/2010 HOW DO YOU INSTALL THE KA 6100!! I do not know how to install the sub-woofer!! The rest of the speakers seems to work fine though.
Dino	None, California
5/24/2010 These 2 fags came up to me at a stoplight saying they would give home theater systems for next to free, so me and my buddy decided to check it out.. Originally they asked for $300 from each of us and we laughed this blonde guy whos name was Paul Allen I believe couldn't seal the deal so this other tall guy with Brown hair came out and eventually got me to cave in for $200..I had a bad feeling about it, but I thought if the speakers are actually worth this much I got a steal and if not then whatever only $200.. I come home and look this up on the internet and I found out I got scammed...next time I see either of these skinny douchebags I'm breaking their arms and taking all the money they have in their pocket. I'm not mad about the $200, I'm mad that these guys smiled in my face while ripping me off in the back.
whogotscammed	Pleasant Hill, California
5/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: ka-6100 Well I bought this set of speakers from two guys in a black expedition for $160.00. Dunno if I got scammed until I hook them up though. If you all knew what cost vs. retail prices were, youd know you were being scammed every day. Im not mad about this at all. If they sound like crap Ill be upset, then ill smoke, then I wont care.
neil	sacramento, California
5/19/2010 Product or Service Involved: kinetic ka-6100 loud speaker I'm someone who always knows when something is to good to be true it must be, but when it comes to my brother its always buy now find out later. As i came home today my brother told me a WHITE GUY AND AN INDIAN GUY IN A SILVER SUV wanted to sell him the Kinetic loudspeaker KA-6100 model for $400, but came down too $160. As I did my research on this product i stumbled upon this website and found out my brother was scammed as well as the hundred others throughout california. now I'm not sure if we can resell them or if its worth opening the box, who knows there might be rocks in the box, Sars, or even the bird flu in the box since it came from asia, he should have opened it and checked it out. since i told him about the scam he still thinks he can get his money back because the people gave him their phone number in case he wants to buy more, but its obvious its a fake number and he will never get his $160 back, just hope he finally learned his lesson and not to trust people selling items on the street unless if its name brand but who knows asians make a lot of knock offs.
us	Bakersfield, California
5/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-6100 My husband bought this system from a guy at an AMPM in Bakersfield and brought it to me as a late mother's day gift. He hooked it up and it sounds fantastic. I do not know how everyone else hooks up their systems, but maybe you should get a professional to help you. I think that they were well worth the $100 he paid for them.
Belhomme	San Francisco, California
5/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetics Home theater systems While loading up my trunk after shopping at the Safeway on the Marina Boulevard in SF, a dark blue Ford Van ( E series) 2 to 4 yo looking - registered in Florida stopped by me. 2 white men, one +/-24yo, the other +/-45 yo - not tall, not fit, hailed me that they had a fabulous opportunity for a home theater. They parked next to my car and showed me a "Kinetics Home theater system" still in the box, with an MSRP tag of $1,999.00 They were in a rush to return to San Jose, and wanted to sell the extra home theater system before returning to their boss.Supposedly the client had ordered one system too many. Then they pulled an official looking invoice from a FEDEX enveloppe. As I backed off, they lowered their price. $800,$600,$400. I suggested $200, and they started to carry it too my car... Their impatience was the last red flag for me and I pulled the plug. They took off the safeway parking lot faster than someone with good conscience does... Once at home, I googled "Kinetics Home theater systems" and found this website. I hope this helps. P
The Dude	Monterey, California
5/10/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Audio Two Douchbags just hosed me at my local 76 gas station in Monterey. Same scam "extra speakers" they wanted $600 I caved at $200. Just returned home and a quick internet search reveals the truth. I'm a sucker!! beware of a Silver Mitsubishi SUV with 2 20 somethings in need of a shave. last seen heading North on HW1. Now I have to deal with my wife...
Michele West	Sacramento, California
5/9/2010 Product or Service Involved: ProTechnik PT 7150 Well looks like the guys are still at it here in Sac area. My son was approached at the Fry's parking lot (on Northgate) with much the same song and dance about how they had received an extra shipping of these speakers. (they had two of the same boxes in the back of the van.) Supposedly because it cost too much to send it back, they were going to have to make it available to "lesser employees" or something equally crazy weird reason that just didn't make sense at the time?! They were also in a huge hurry because supposedly they had to be back at work in 15 min., even though it was well after 4pm on a Friday. I asked my son to come to the house before deciding so I could take a look, (and because I had the money.) When I asked, they produced all kinds of what looked like official paperwork, IDs, etc. When they offered to write me an offical "bill of sale", I figured they must have been legit, if they would go to that trouble. How naive I am!! We shelled out $400 cash, for two identical systems, after I saw on the "web site" that the MSRP was $3,400. Once they left with out cash, I only a bad feeling after there was no paperwork in either box and link for the manual is not working. I decided to do some hunting and this site is what I was lead to. While the speakers are functional I doubt that they are worth the $200/ea we paid for them! :( (One doesn't even work at all and the FM radio has very poor reception!) I hope someone else can learn from my mistake!
DUMMY2	Cloverdale, California
4/20/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic KA-6100 5.1 Two guys in a white SUV with an "extra" set of speakers. The box was sealed and when I opened it the speakers were in there. I doubt if they were worth the $100 buy hey, no sales tax!
Riverside CA	None, California
4/18/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic 4200 Loud Speaker I guess we were fortunate the guy who sold us the speakers only charged us $300 for a system that retails online for $2995 and ours works perfect.
Bob Matthews	Sacramento, California
4/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: DiVinci Home Theater 6.1 I was approached at a gas station and ended up buying for $200.00. There were two SUV's gasing up and they both had DiVinci systems for sale. Both trucks had two guys and both trucks had Florida plates. One truck was white the other was black. The black truck was a new model explorer i think. The plate number was Florida plate: 400-HYP or HYD...I haven't tried the speakers yet but it now looks like that will be a waste of time.
Lynda Rudinger	San Diego, California
4/15/2010 Product or Service Involved: Kinetic Loudspeaker My father-in-law was scammed as well. He did not know it and gave it to us to hold until he got into his new home. Today he called and asked us to sell it on Craigslist. I used my IPhone app...Redlaser, and nothing came up as a comparable price. I went to the website as well and couldn't find any contact info. I then googled the product and discovered the scam. My point is that if you have an iphone you can barscan any product and if nothing come up, it is a scam.
lisa	bellflower, California
4/13/2010 Why is this a scam? Cause it's bought out of a van & not Best Buy? Does the system even work? I have read comments/stories of how the system is received, but no one has said the product is working. I paid $80 for the system I have but I have not hooked it up. It is still in the back of my trunk. I didn't really need it, I just got it cause I thought I was getting a deal